just to let you know we now have Dean Swift here on MrSnuff thanks dave
This has always fascinated me - the snuff that no one know who makes it!! Can you solve the mystery??
I think Dean Swift makes it.
I suspect…only a suspicion mind you…that Wilson’s makes it.
but I could be wrong!
Judging by the overall scents & grinds, I would put money on Gawith Hoggarth making Dean Swift. There are a few snuffs that are very similar.
But if a supplier gets it wholesale is it not apparent where it come from, Mr Snuff?
They must sign a confidentiality agreement.
snuffster, no.
snuffster if I told you where 90% of your home electronics were made, you’d quit buying them. 
true.
Looking at some Dean Swift today. One thing struck me as odd…there is no warning label on the tins! Anybody know what that is about?
Well I’ll be damned! I can’t believe I didn’t notice that before. Is that even legal?
My only guess is that the US has no warning label regulation for nasal snuff. All the Conwood, Swisher, and US Smokeless have the standard oral tobacco warnings, I guess since people use them orally. (Which I can’t believe anyone would do with Maccoboy). Mr. Snuff once mentioned that he put warnings on the QWS and FUBAR lines vouluntarily, in anticipation of regulation. If you find out who makes it you can ask them. What about Off the Cuff, anybody have a tin of that? Any other US only brands?
Dean Swift is almost definitely private label made by one of the big manufacturers in the UK. It even says Made in England on the tin (country of origin being a legal requirement). I don’t know who makes it, but I would guess Wilson’s (shape of tin, grind, sticky edge-seal label), or possibly Samuel Gawith. There is no health warning because it is not required in the USA on nasal snuff; Xander is correct: US snuffs are oral snuffs (primarily) and therefore do require a warning. Sorry I can’t give a more definitive answer. Dave
My 2 cents on private label snuffs: it is not unusual for companies to do this, and it has been happening for centuries. Sometimes the manufacturer’s flavors are simply re-labeled, but more common is that the contracting company will make up their own flavors or versions of existing flavors tweaked to their specs. This, I believe, has value to the snuffing community because new and sometimes exciting snuff varieties enter the market that would otherwise never see the light of day. The question then becomes, should the private label snuffs have something on the label that states who the actual manufacturer is, or is this not necessary since the flavors are specific to the contracting company? When you buy President’s Choice or No Name corn flakes at the local supermarket, you won’t see “Manufactured by Kellogs” on the side of the box, though they may in fact be the producers. I am not saying this is right or wrong one way or the other, but it would be a shame not to try a new and possibly very different snuff just because you believe it is more of the same. Thoughts welcomed… Filek: well done!
I’m sure that if it was a known fact that G. Smith & Son’s snuff was indeed made by another company, that many people wouldn’t go out of their way to buy G. Smith & Son’s, but instead would buy the cheaper alternative and mix it themselves. I think it’s smart for a snuff company to make various labels. If someone doesn’t really care for Wilson’s, but they see Fredrick Tranter’s they may be inclined to buy F Tranters, not knowing it’s made by the same company. The same goes for FUBAR and Dholakia.
Thank the Good Lord!!! This has preyed on my mind for many a moon and, yes, it has disturbed my sleep. At last I can relax!! I think I’ve already made some comments on contract brands! My thinking is this: as a consumer I value choice, I do like to know what I am buying. I am an ordinary Joe and live on an ordinary Joe’s wages. There are some companies whose products I would avoid because I don’t like them. If I see something that purports to be made by one company but is in actual fact made by another I may inadvertantly buy something that given the full information I would not purchase. I have not the slightest problem with contract brands and recognise that it is a common practice throughout the commercial world, not just snuff. But as my jar of Nescafe says ‘a registered product of Nestle’ on the label, I don’t see why snuff - indeed any contract manufactured article - should not have the same information on the packaging. I got into deep water for suggesting the lack of this information smacked of dishonesty - and in actual fact modified my comments because I don’t want to harm anyone’s business (if in fact I could). Speaking purely about snuff I would like to see all of the new brands simply bearing something like ‘a Dholakia product, a Toque product’ etc etc. I know a lot of people don’t really care about this and I respect that, but I do, so can we have some informative labelling please gents?
Cstokes, I’ll answer your whisper about whether Toque make snuff for anyone else publicly, as maybe Roderick can help us out on this: I’m not sure is the answer. I remember Roderick once saying that they didn’t but when I caused the big argument about this some months ago I am fairly certain he said that he did. I don’t for a second think there is any integrity issue here; he simply hadn’t strated doing it when he made the first comment is my guess. Roderick, can you clarify this just out of interest please?
I’m simply curious. Who makes what doesn’t really matter to me, as long as I enjoy the product.