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Good idea Alex.

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Ah ok. I just used the old one. This one now bookmarked. We can close it after everyone gets caught up here.

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Re: your previous comment: I wonder if vanilla enacted any filters? Seems like there are more legit applications now. Glad we shut off the email verify.

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As we discussed some time ago; I have reactivated John’s original account, at member status. I also reset his password so it will send him an email notification.

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I think that’s fair. I was going to ask soon. I wonder what’s in his head (besides snuff)

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Not sure. I’m all about forgive and forget but I don’t think I could ever have him as a mod again.

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The change log seems to be back to normal, I deleted ~100 pages of stuff. I deleted the old nose and mailbox threads which added another 400 pages of stuff so I’m working on chopping that down a bit.

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Ok, I think the change log is back to a manageable level, 30 pages. Today I also deleted about 20 “dead” threads in the general category. Still a lot of cleaning to do in there.

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I’m seriously considering merging the reviews section with “Types of Snuff” since NOBODY seems to use it like it is intended, even those who should know better.

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Nah, I think it will get better over time. I’ll start putting my old reviews up there soon, and maybe photos. I saw some new more or less proper reviews the last few days, followed by comments. I’ll go back in a while and delete the comments. Who’s the ugly mug?

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You know I had no idea foreskin restoration was possible. Wow. I think I have some research to do.

C

Ugly mug!?! Keep your foreskin experiments to yourself.

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I asked Dogwalla to make some different themes for the Snuffhouse logo. Attached are what I received.

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Those are pretty good. I especially like the one up now. Its been blazing. You don’t get seasons do you, Chris or Mark. re: Ugly mug, who is your new avatar?

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We get Summer (April-October) and Fall/Spring (November-March). In other words, hot and wet or mild and dry. It’s Barnabas, from his foyer painting that hangs in Collinwood.

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Ahh, very cool. I used to love that show. I’m not even a vampire fan, and my girlfriend is, but she’s never seen it. Where do you watch? Do you have a good place online to watch those episodes, or do you have dvds? Or what? Are they on TV someplace?

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I “got” them from the library and Netflix. Netflix has the entire series starting with the 200 episodes before Barnabas arrives. You can buy the entire series on Amazon for a cool $430. I’m sure there is somewhere to watch them, just haven’t found it yet. Considering there is 2,000+ episodes, it might be a bit much for an online host to have the entire series. I also have bootlegs of the two movies “House of Dark Shadows” and “Night of Dark Shadows” but since they come out on Blu Ray/DVD in October, I will buy them to see the fully restored footage. If your girlfriend is a vampire fan, she should love Dark Shadows… that is if she hates Twilight. Oh, as for them being on TV, I think SyFy still retains the rights to them so they might be on there. I know when the blasphemous movie was released they showed a marathon starting at ep. 211 when Barnabas appears. Alex, here is a link with some of the episodes: http://www.alluc.org/search.html?sword=dark+shadows

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Thanks I’ll keep it forfuture reference. I had watched one here http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/Dark-Shadows\\_31877/ but I remember there being lots of tech glitches. I’n not sure haw many episodes theyhave. I watched the very first episode there. I know that there are some episodes missing, but I’d still like to see them all from begining to end. As to my girlfriend’s taste, ugh. She watches Twilight, she’ll even admit how cheesy it is, but watches anyway.

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Cheesy isn’t the word. :-& Granted, Dark Shadows is a soap.

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Trashy?

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Nah, movies like Hell of the Living Dead are trashy. Twilight is just junk with no redeeming values.

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Plus, Dark Shadows has better novels: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb\\_sb\\_noss\\_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Marilyn+Ross+Dark+Shadows&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AMarilyn+Ross+Dark+Shadows

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Well, the target audience is preteen girls, who simply want to have crushes on pretty boys, it makes it all the better if they are “bad” boys. I don’t think they are even paying attention to the story much. Plus they can sell those girls posters, books, videos, etc, etc. Its a merchandising treasure chest! Its like those manufactured boy bands, just a different medium.

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The change log is nice and empty. Did someone find a quick way to delete everything, or just plug away 10 comments at a time? I was deleting about 20 pages a day, but yesterday there were still over 600 I think.

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I deleted a video Vito445 posted in the music thread. Racist/nationalist stuff. The link is visible in the change log. You can read the lyrics on the Youtube page. However, the lyrics say “beggar” but the singer clearly says “niggar.” If you feel like torturing your ears, have a listen. So if he complains, that’s the reason.

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@Xander: The other day I deleted about 900 pages in the change log. I got into a groove of checking, deleting, and confirming. I think there is a circle worn into my mousepad now. I had it down to about 300 then I deleted the old nose and mailbox threads, which added about 500 pages. Come to think of it, I must have deleted over 1,000 pages of crap. Needed to be done, plus I deleted quite a few old threads that were destroyed by member deletions and bad links/images from the first migration.

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I find that suspicious considering the issue we had with him and Itsuke. He claimed someone else was using his Youtube acct for Nationalist stuff… looks like he wasn’t telling the truth. I’m almost positive that Vito is a skinhead, read the comment at the very end: http://abmp3.com/download/1652593-oi-skinhead.html Which makes me certain that he did indeed make those comments to Itsuke. What’s also odd is that a while back he was included in an indian snuff group buy, he wouldn’t tell me his real name, just told me to address it as “Vito” on the parcel. http://www.youtube.com/user/vito445/videos My favorite (not) may be the “When Brown People Think They Are White” video. With all of that being said, I don’t think we should take action until something is posted that makes his persuasion clear. So let’s just keep an eye out.

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I agree. I always beleieved Itsuke and thought Vito was lying. However, if he keeps it to himself then there is no reason to take any action.

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I’m doing a bit of houskeeping in the review section and posting a few of my own so people maybe will follow the model. I got Nigel to repost one of his into a previous thread so its all neat-neat. I’m being generous with the random comment posts, if it could in anyway be constued as a review, I kept it. Anway, I’m wondering if we can set it up so that the reviews will be alphebetized by thread, instead of newest on top.

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I had the whole front page of “unread” threads… I felt bad like I was shirking my duties… i was only gone like 2 hours! I see now it’s part of the housekeeping…

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Also, there’s a legitimate looking applicant… I haven’t approved anyone for while… I don’t know about this whole “IP” thing, how it works…

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Mark, its ok to approve if they look legit. I can check the IP anytime after they are approved, so don’t worry about that bit. This guy checks out. Everyone is ok until they cause trouble.

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We’re getting spammers in the applicant box again. Not many, but a few per day and numbers are slowly increasing. I’ve declined one with a name of MrSmith something three times now. He merely types “1” on his application. This one is probably a real person and thinks that a robot is aproving the applications.

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Had one that typed “test” into the box. Ha, don’t think so.

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Denied 5 spammers this morning, another one from “Smith” Next time he/she applies I’m going to send an email, if I don’t get a response then I’ll add the email and username to the ban list.

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Yeah. They’re like mosquitos. Somedays none, some days insane numbers.

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Ok, we must be in Dallas if spammers are like mosquitos. Another 6 or so since this am.

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What do you all think about applicant “Lithua”?

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seems to have a sense of humor

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Chris, did you write to tha MrSmith character? He’s back again, same “1” nonsense.

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Just did. We’ll see.

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No point in waiting for an email back: http://www.stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/31.134.230.40

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I have activated the “Stop Forum Spam” add on in Dashboard. Might get rid of some of the perpetual handbag and shoe garbage, as well as people like “Mrsmithxse” I also changed my email password after realizing it was a spammer. Herp-derp.

C

Has anyone denied any spammers today? Yesterday was rather busy. Hope that spam blocker addon works.

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None so far today. Sorry I was a bit absent last week - we had our daughter and her family staying with us. My granddaughters didn’t leave me a lot of energy for anything else!

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No worries Tony. If anyone declines any spammers, please note how many. I think yesterday I declined about 12-15.

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I think I just cleared out the few that were sitting there, but that was probably just after you put on the spam blocker. I saw another later that said “why not” but left it alone.

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Ok the spam blocker is catching some. The same message repeatedly from multiple sources. I left it up there. I already deleted one of the same kind from the spam queue, and 2 of them from the applicant queue.

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More of this same message. Are we just deleting them? I wonder if there is a common thing among them to block them (other than the identical message). I’ve also noticed that the ones who get past the spam blocker to the applicant stage often leave spam in the “Activity” tab. I have been deleting those.

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Hmmm… should we deactivate the spam blocker and just do it manually? Seems to be creating more work.

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No, It catches at least half of them. I don’t know how it works, but it may learn over time, so it may catch all the ones of these types. Also they don’t get to post in the activity tab. I’m just wondering how it happens that we get bombarded from multiple sources with the same message. Was that what they agreed to do at the spammer’s convention? Cyberspace is bizarre.

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This morning, there were 10 of that same message in the applicant box and two in the spam box. However, the spam box showed that those were multiple attempts each. I cleared it all but left one applicant with the enigmatic “just for fun” as a reason to join. real person?

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I declined it.

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Alex, take a look at user: sharrow1 in the dashboard. What do you make of it? Two accounts seem to be the same person, one under the sharrow mills, another personal. I’m ok with that. What about the other?

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I noticed it before. There’s actually 3 at that IP address.

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There’s also Squiffy, which is carol@sharrowmills, which I deactivated since it hadn’t been active since 2009. I read through their comments once, they don’t comment often. I think they use those accounts to quietly gage what customers are thinking.

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Then there’s this one: Wilsons_of_Sharrow james@sharrowmills.com

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Some of the comments are plugs, some are insiders hiding as non-insiders getting a feel for user’s thoughts. I guess if they don’t raise hell we should leave them alone.

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yeah, that’s what I had figured. I wouldn’t be suprised if others had them here too. I know a number of shops did. In any case, I’m still going to deactivate any account that has not been active in two years. September is tomorrow, so tomorrow I will deactivate anyone not active since Sept 2010.

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Oh by the way, every so often, maybe once I week, I check the list of users and search only for the “deactivated” ones. Then I arrange them by activity date. If any have come back, I restore their active status by changing them back to “member.” I’ve only had two come back though.

C

Something else we could do is reset the passwords, might prod some into coming back.

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Keep an eye on this one I just approved: epidares (epidares73@yahoo.de) 12:00PM Asking some questions A rather ambiguous application, but could be legit. Can always delete him later if he’s a spammer.

C

Have you figured out a way to delete whispers? Seems to be the only thing we can’t delete.

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I thought about that re: the passwords. However, I’ve tried to reset my own, and I get no emails. I was assuming that their change in status would send them a notification, but I’m not sure. One thing I have noticed is sometimes after I dig through old threads and reassign categories or delete obsolete/superfluous stuff the system starts handing out badges for comments, anniversaries, etc. Sometimes those members come back after that. No I don’t know how to delete whispers other than if both parties delete discussion. Not sure if that will even work. The whisper you and I had in the trade thread won’t go away and is kind of irking me. Maybe we will have to delete the whole thread at some point. I’ve also noticed that I can see other people’s whispers.

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Yes, mods can see other whispers. Not a big deal, I think it’s always been that way. The trade thread is annoying me too. I’ve thought about deletion but then we would have to have others re-post. Maybe a rule of no whispers in the trade thread? Not sure if that would work. I don’t want to create another rule, we might have too many as it is.

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Ok, new BST. Let me know what you think.

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Alex, did you delete someone? A “deleted user” is showing up as earning a 1st comment badge? Odd.

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I guess that’s the best way to deal with it for the BST. If it gets to clutterd by whispers again, we can do the same thing. Alternately we can disable the whisper function. I think most people use the PM instead of whisper, but yeah it probably better to leave it. I haven’t deleted anyone lately, but frequently deleted users get badges. Usually after I’ve been mucking around in old threads. Its been doing that ever since the badge system was implemented.

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I forgot that the badges are updated when we are working in old threads. I’d rather keep the whispers, its one thing I loved about the old SH.

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I’m finally getting around to addressing the change log issue with vanilla

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Yeah, its a mess. Starting to get full again too. I don’t want to have to wait until its 1000 pages long again to delete it. Anyway, is there anyway that we can make the review section a separate tab without all the categories becoming separate tabs?

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I think I have found a workable solution to the Reviews dilemma. I would like it to be a separate tab, but that does not seem possible without making all categores separate tabs. However, there is a check box in the category editor that says something like “do not make this category show up in recent dicussions” so I checked it. The problem is, it only works for the parent category. Since we have child categories for most every brand they will have to be checked individually. I did Atherthons as a test and it worked. I might reset a few more tonight, as I’m working through my own snuff reviews alphabetically and posting them. I’m trying to put photos in if I have them. If anyone wants to help complete either of these tasks, especially if I don’t have the photos, I would appreciate it. Since we can’t make a tab for the review section, can we make a link to it in the sidebar? Maybe even get Dogwalla to make a creative banner?

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Oh. After I get all my reviews posted, and the review department squared away, I want to sponsor a little contest to get more reviews up. I want to give away as the prize a PC double snuffbox. I want to go for max number of reviews. Do you guys have any suggestions as to the parameters of a contest? Anybody want to co-sponsor with me?

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Alex, I will get Neil (Dogwalla) on the review link right away, great idea! Sure, I’ll co-sponsor. I need to look through my stash and see what I have to offer. I think the reviews would have to follow a rubric, i.e. they should be like the old snuffreviews: grind, moisture, nicotine, etc. in a very organized way. Maybe the reviews should also have to include other snuffs that are similar?

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Alex, Ok, I’ve written Dogwalla. I asked him to make 2 banners, one small like the sponsor shops and one big that we could put at the top of the page (many forums have a large banner up top).

C

Got rid of that horrible blue background on the sidebar messages. Whew, I hated that thing.

C

Thanks Dave, I’m sure that would bring some more attention to it.

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Alex, what do you think about the review tab being at the top of the page like so? I’m not so sure about it, sidebar might be our best option.

C

Alex, I’d like to run an idea by you: How do you feel about cutting off discussions from the OT and Other Forms of Tobacco sections from Recent Discussions?

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I would prefer sidebar to top. It should not be in the way at all, but should be noticeable. I’m not sure about cutting off discussions from the OT and Other Forms of Tobacco sections from Recent Discussions. Do you think they are getting in the way? Dave, I’m not imagining it to be a big huge contest, so I have the PC double snuffbox as a prize. Technically its in used condtion too, so that gives you an idea of value. They cost what, about $20? A couple other odds and ends in the same neighborhood and we can have multiple prizes.

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I was PMing with Nigel and discussing the review section, anyway he can’t see the new sidebar button. I wonder if its the same issue/reason I can’t see the donate button.

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Not sure, the Review button is actually embedded with html into the forum, the donate button is just a “message” and not embedded. If you go into dashboard and look under pockets you can see how the review button is done.

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Alex, there is an applicant that I’d like a second opinon on, reason: “just to read the forums.” Applicants can read the threads… sounds a bit fishy.

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Yeah I just looked at that. It seems a generic repsonse you could write to join any forum. I bet there will be more of them just like it. Could be real, but maybe wait awhile. As to the other stuff, I’ve never been able to use the dashboard. It makes my browser crazy. So I’m finally going to upgrade it today and if my computer doesn’t die from it, I’ll have a look. I now see the review button above the messages, but I think it takes up too much real estate there. Is it there or is it just me? Anyway, since I can see the donate when logged out but not in, I think it must be a bug on Vanilla’s end. Also if Nigel can’t see the reviews button, I’m thinking vanilla again.

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Can the review button fit in the banner? Like above the search box?

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I’ll check the pockets to see where the banner can go, might involve some tinkering. Vanilla wrote back about the change log, they are working on it. If you get a new browser; stay away from IE.

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Yeah, I think I will give Chrome a try. I’m doing a bit of research. I can only upgrade to IE 8, IE 9 is not compatible with my version of Windows.

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Ok, what you see uptop is the best I can get it. If you like it, I will delete the duplicate banner. For some reason when I try to align the banners the second banner jumps down a row. So it’s either this or the review button in the sidebar like it is.

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Alex: Re: Reviews Category I have spoken to Vanilla, they can hide the category from the list, which would make the reviews banner/button more attractive to use for members. Would you like them to hide this so it makes the reviews a seperate page like you want?

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mm. Not sure if I like it. Its not real pretty. What do you think? Was it better in the sidebar? As far as hiding, I guess that sounds fine, though not sure what it means. I thought it was ok since I had switched them from coming up in gereral discussion. I have yet to do this with every child category. The first few alphabetically I have done.

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If we hide the category, the reviews will only be accessable through the clickable banner, they will no longer show up in the list of categories (General, etc…).

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OK, if you think that’s the best way to do it, I’m fine with it.

C

Well, right now the reviews button is just an extra reminder. If we hide the reviews from the list, members will have to go through the button. I think it should be one or the other, button and no reviews in the category list, or reviews in the category list and no button.

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I think the reviews will get more attention with a button. I’m not convinced the current design of said button is conspicuous enough. No one seems to have noticed it. Having said that, I do like how it conforms to the subdued, laid back style of our site.

C

Ok, really? Read Nigel’s comment on the “Tobacco Gone Wild” thread. How is that a good thing to state?

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I read it as facetious, tounge firmly planted in cheek. no?

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Alex, there is an applicant that I’d like a second opinon on, reason: “just to read the forums.” Applicants can read the threads… sounds a bit fishy.

Ah… I just declined that one. Didn’t seem legit to me.

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Ok, good deal @ermtony @Xander: I suppose the insomnia didn’t help my reaction to Nigel’s post. Not sure if I’m the only one who felt that way or if he was talking about me in a future reply. Oh well. Seems that things were going too well and Vito had to stir a little shit. Seems to be his MO.

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I see. Did you say something to him? He seems to have caveated himself in a recent post. re: Vito…to paraphrase someone else “that boy ain’t right” not a problem though.

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I didn’t say anything to him, maybe someone else did.

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Reviews are now hidden and only available through the button.

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Ok. Lets hope it works out. Lots of progress today. I can even see the Donate button now and have not yet changed my broswer. Something must have changed on Snuffhouse’s end. The change log is still a mess, any udates on that?

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Re: donate button and such Apparently my html coding was a bit off, so Lincoln with Vanilla fixed a few things. Re: Change log They have found a fix and will be implementing it soon!

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Maybe it’s the upcoming election but I was in the democratic mood and decided to put the badges to a vote. This way Vito can stop whining about them.

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Vito’s just a sourpuss there’s nothing that will make him happy. As far as I was concerned, the membership already decided in favor of badges, but this might be a good chance to test the poll feature. Maybe a poll to see if we should keep polls? Maybe only mods can start polls. Maybe give ability that as a unique ISTA privledge. Just ideas.

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I will look into restricting polls. I’ve been pondering restarting the ISTA, just don’t know what format we should go with. I’d like to turn it into an exclusive thing. Ideas?

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Hey, how about that! I can restrict who can add polls! I think I may do that, only for mods right now but maybe for ISTA members down the road. Ok, I’ve restricted the polls to only Mods for now.

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I have the workings of an ISTA constitution in my head. Once I draft it, I’ll post it to the ISTA members, then let them vote on the wording. totally democratic

C

A few days ago I changed some permissions of who was a member. There were some people on there that barely post, I think there should be some minimum to establish a member.

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Well, that’s why I had been going throuh old members. If they had been active once but fallen inactive for 2 years, I simply deactivated them. If they never posted (or posted only one time -usually something bogus too). I delete the account.

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Is there a place to see the votes of the poll?

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As in who voted? I disabled that but I might be able to change it. I think we have a pretty good core of ISTA members right now: http://snuffhouse.vanillaforums.com/user/browse?Keywords=ISTA+Member&Go=Go

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No not who, but how many votes?

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You can’t see it? :-S Right now it’s 7 Yay, 1 Nay

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Do I have to vote to see it? I was abstaining.

C

Oh, maybe. Vote, why not?

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It’s anonymous btw.

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Yeah, I know. I’d rather the membership decided w/o moderater help. Also I’m neutral on badges.

C

Same here, it won’t break my heart if they go. I wish people could opt out of them, would make it easier.

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Yeah, I know. I’d rather the membership decided w/o moderater help. Also I’m neutral on badges.

Same here.

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Well, I suppose it’s settled. 47 yes, 4 no.

C

Seems that I can’t edit any posts, I will edit/delete something but it doesn’t go away! This forum is really pissing me off lately. Bugs, bugs, bugs.

C

Seems like we have attracted a “painwhore” in the applicants. Check it out for a good chuckle.

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lol, it takes all types.

C

IP Checks out as Cincy

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http://snuffhouse.org/categories/de-kralingse-molens Bottom few are closed. I can’t get them to reopen. Any ideas why?

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I archived all discussions that were older than 2008, which is why they couldn’t be modified. I figured this would be an easy way to move really old threads into the archive without having to close each one. I didn’t think about the reviews area. I removed the archive date.

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Heads up guys: My employer is starting to block websites, so far it’s mostly social media. I just noticed that Netflix is blocked as well as Huffington Post. I have a feeling that this site may soon be the same. If that happens my time on here will be cut in half if not more. I’ll try to get on with my tablet, not sure if they have blocked anything with the wifi.

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Well, the heatwave has finally broken. Cooler weather here for the last several days, and not forecast to get very hot again soon. Not sure how it is for the majority, or those in Florida or England, etc but I’m thinking in relation to the banner, maybe use the generic one until the leaves start to change.

E

Yes, the weather has definitely broken here. While the weekend was still warm and sunny, it got decidedly cool yesterday, as low as 1 degree (C) overnight. Makes work rather less tiresome!

C

Ok. Back to green until the official start of fall. Once fall becomes too cold to be fall, we will go to green until official winter, and so on for the future seasons.

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looks good. Actually, where Dave MrSnuff lives (do you still reside in upstate NY or is it QB… border country anyway, very scenic area) they might be getting colors already. I saw a hint of yellow in a river valley a few days ago. Another month here and its glorious. Good time for a visit…any takers?

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I wish we had colors here. If I go to north FL I can see some shades but not much. The wife and I will be going to Wilmington South in December… kinda close? :-"

C

Not sure about the 2 applicants that are in the dashboard. Seem a little odd.

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leapyearsnuffer seems ok. what looks odd to you?

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I’m going to let those two guys in. We can always boot them if we have to.

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I’m getting this message consistantly when I am trying to access individual review sub categories: There is a problem with this website’s security certificate. The security certificate presented by this website was issued for a different website’s address. Security certificate problems may indicate an attempt to fool you or intercept any data you send to the server. We recommend that you close this webpage and do not continue to this website. Click here to close this webpage. Continue to this website (not recommended). More information If you arrived at this page by clicking a link, check the website address in the address bar to be sure that it is the address you were expecting. When going to a website with an address such as https://example.com, try adding the ‘www’ to the address, https://www.example.com. If you choose to ignore this error and continue, do not enter private information into the website. For more information, see “Certificate Errors” in Internet Explorer Help. I didn’t try to bypass it and go in anyway in case its been hacked. However, it was working fine for the past hour or so.

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Ok, the problem seems to have corrected itself. After about 10 minutes it began functioning properly again.

C

It comes and goes, happens to me to. Might have something to do with vanilla migrating stuff.

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So i’ve been tidying in the review section, plus added one new review and copied/pasted about three or four of my old ones. It occurs to me that folks will not notice new reviews, since they are not apparent in recent discussions. I wonder if there is anyway we can have a little light turn on (a la notifications, inbox, etc) when new reviews are posted. Also I was wondering if Dogwalla could do some custom badges for reviewers. Probably it should be similar to the other badges, badge awarded for 1, 5, 25, 100, etc, increasing intervals like the comments badges. Anybody got any opinions on any of the above? @ermtony any reviews/photos you’d care to cross post? I’m working on my own, a couple every few days, when I have time.

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I will look into notifications, give me some time on that. Re: Dogwalla: He never did respond about the custom banners for the reviews, I’m hesitant to ask him for anything else.

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ok, Mybe its time to recuit someone else, but give him some time

C

Are you able to use Dashboard yet or does it still make your pc crazy?

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Give me some more time on that. I;m stil intervewng web browsers. Can’t acess it atm.

C

Okie dokie. I think we could do what I did on the left pane, and make it dismissable so it doesn’t junk up the area.

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Ok, I think I dismissed it. Will it come back if new reviews are posted? Its not a link to the new reviews though, right? You still have to take yourself to them?

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@Xander - I do have a load of reviews and some pics to add. Time is currently against me, with work, getting my eldlerly mum moved to a new care home and dealing with various issues to do with my wife’s disability. I’ll get there eventually!

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Its just a message. In order for it to pop up again we would need to put a new message in dashboard.

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@ermtony no hurry. @cstokes4 ok.

C

Guys: In the future when we close old Nose, Mailbox, and other like threads, let’s not delete them. Instead close them and move them to the archives. You never know what nuggets of info might be in those threads. I think I have erred in deleting these in the past; something I regret now.

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Really? Ok. Had you told me a few days ago, I might have salvaged some from the Change Log, but I cleaned it out. want to save all the old Pipe and Snus ones too?

C

Nah, the pipe and snus ones can go. I keep thinking about the Israeli snuffs, I think the info was in a Nose or Mailbox thread. If there is ever an issue with bandwidth, we can delete them. But for now let’s just archive them.

X

Well, it will make comment counters happy.

C

Yeah, I suppose. I wish there was a way to make certain threads not count towards post count.

X

I’ve left alone an applicant with a vague application. No mention of snuff. Could be another new decoy spam post

C

I declined it. Too fishy.

E

No worries - I spotted the first dodgy post earlier today and I have been keeping an eye open for his posts.

X

http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/6806/polls-for-best-of#latest Discussion?

M

I keep meaning to ask you guys… should I be deleting / declining the applicant’s in the “spam queue?” The obvious ones, of course…

C

Only if you want to!

M

Well, yeah, as long as I’m there… I hate seeing them but I wasn’t sure if I would mess something up… BTW Chris, I’ll be in Sebastian in about a month…

C

Re: Polls: I’m ok with it but I think if we open them to everyone it will become very cluttered. Maybe we could create a poll request sticky?

X

I agree with that. Your favorite toast seems like the best starting place, as it was mentioned in the last comment

X

deciding on which toasts go in it is the trick.

X

Another vague application. I’ve left it alone. I almost want to approve it, but for the lack of the word “snuff” I have not.

X

I know there are a lot of SG fans here in the mod team. Anyone try Elmo’s Reserve yet?

E

Oh yes, it’s very nice indeed. I’ve finished off two tins of it already!

C

I found it a bit overpowering, same with Celtic Talisman.

X

I think its Jaxons English Toffee but on a dark/moist base. Still trying to decide if I like it.

C

It’s too much for me. If you like it you can have my tin.

X

There’s a couple weird applicants again, I’ve left alone. One is Vijay, trying to make a second account, or maybe its a different Vijay.

C

Is the BST invisible? X(

C

I see someone sunk the “Government Banning/Paranoia/There are Microphones in Street Lamps” thread. If it gets out of control (anyone want to take the over/under) we should close it and delete.

X

yes, I sunk it. Seemed prudent. watching for now, but headed to bed soon.

X

Odd applicant. Wants to promote “Snuff Skins.” What is a snuff skin?

C

Creepy. WTF?

C

http://snuffskins.bigcartel.com

X

so its for dip. Decline app?

C

Yeah, its for dip. Do you think we should decline it? If he/she is just going to pimp their product, I don’t want them.

X

Yeah, I think that’s all they want to do.

C

Thoughts on the way I set up the Polls?

X

That looks like it will work out fine. I posted more to the specific subject over yonder…

C

Cool. I think having it as a child category will help keep it neat and clean. Plus, only mods or admins can create a thread, so we don’t have to worry about others making it messy.

X

Just deleted two spammers. Chris…? ahem.

C

Shit, I must have pushed the wrong button. I’ve declined ~25 today. Sorry. herp-derp

X

I did that once (that I know of). Fortunately since I know it as soon as aI did it, I right away went back and zapped em all one by one. Yeah, there have been droves of them lately, though one or two legit ones every other day or so too.

X

Ignore typos. I’m too tired to edit. Bedtime soon…

C

I have left two applicants in the queue, looking for second opinions. “Azopus” and “Zoltan” the emails are so similar.

E

That was exactly my reaction!. Nor sure what to make of them.

X

azopus seems ok. other one thinks we are a store. We should decide a policy on those types, since we get a lot of them.

C

I suppose we can approve the ones looking to buy snuff, if they create redundant threads we can close them down with an explanation. I would put it in the TOS, but I don’t think anyone reads it.

C

Had someone wanting to order Bruton in the applicants log. I took the time to email them a link to Mr. Snuff. They included their mailing address and what not. I would have approved them… but I don’t think she understands what a message board is.

X

I’ve seen several of that type. I’m not sure what’s in people’s heads. If they’ve figured out how to use the computer enough to find this site, you would think they’d also have the sense to see that we’re not a shop.

X

Although I just did a google search for snuff to see what comes up. We are third after two wikipedia entries. However, the blurb below our name makes it look like we are a shop.

C

I think the search engine thing may be fixed (somewhat).

C

Reviews are viewable again. I’m not going to ask them to hide the category again. Should I delete the button?

X

As long as the threads don’t rise to the surface when new reviews are posted, it doesn’t need to be hidden. There’s a setting to keep them from going in new discussions, which I had been doing manually.

C

We need to keep an eye on @Kaiser_Wilhelm. 11 posts in and already getting political… L-)

X

ok

C

I have been adding all of the spammers to the ban list. I noticed that many that show up on the spam list had frequencys of 30+.

X

Check the Moderator Activity thread. Some legit users have been banned based on email. At least one is legit: @pr1uk

C

I guess that route isn’t going to work.

X

http://snuffhouse.vanillaforums.com/user/browse?keywords=64.251.149.103

C

I sent him/her a PM. I let him know that we know about the multiple accounts and if it continues we will ban the IP.

X

I deactivated the second one months ago for being a duplicate. I don’t think he wants to go back to his original name since he boxed himself in by saying he wanted the account closed and would never use the site again or something to that effect.

C

Greencrow casued issues, Postup caused issues, I can’t imagine him doing anything else with this new user id.

C

Alex, your trade post is out of date. I didn’t want to delete it so you can copy-n-paste :)>-

X

roger that!

X

3 questionable applicants at present. This one I think is too generic and seems fishy: Expand my knowlege base of new and dfferent products One is someone looking to buy chew. The other is someone looking to buy snuffboxes.

C

I declined them all. Thanksgiving week isn’t a good time to worry about spammers or trolls. If there are any more fishy ones this week we should leave them until next week. I will be away from the PC from Thursday to Sunday, maybe popping in here and there.

C

I think this will be the last week of the pumpkin theme… Winter here we come!

X

ok. although its not been too cold here. Thanksqiving is more or less the traditional end of autumn here.

C

That’s how I’ve always thought of it as well. By the time Thanksgiving blows over I’ve had my fill of fall colors and pumpkin decor. It’s been pretty decent here, just below average at 73F, rather nice.

C

How is everything going with everyone? This place has been nice and quiet, I don’t think we have had a major issue in a while! Hope everyone is doing well!

X

Fine here. I’ve been busy the last few days and not had much time here. I’ve got a bit of time at the moment, and catching up on some posts.

C

Same here Alex, the semester is finally starting to wind down then I get to look forward to vacation in a little over a week. If you are looking for any particular scotches let me know before I go to NC. Many of the stores there sell the pocket cans and thrift cans.

X

Starr is one I can never find here that I wish I could. Tops Mild is good too if you find it, but not a must have. Thanks for asking.

C

Ok, I’ll keep a look out for them. I found a honey hole at Loews a grocery chain up yonder (or Lowes can’t ever remember how it’s spelled) the last time I was there. There is also a decent tobacconist just outside of town that I’ll check out, a few years ago they carried some Poschl brands, might be able to find some SD or Toque USA. Anyone have any opinions on the “Winter” banner?

X

If anyone needs any of these, let me know: Is the picture too blurry? I took it in a hurry just now.

C

And I thought I was bad! Nice little stockpile! Nice bookshelves too!

X

The bookshelves are the hutch of my computer desk, so I look at that stash all the time. The bit of white in the lower left of the pic is top of my computer monitor. I never seem to have enough bookshelves. I decided to keep a stash of available scotches on hand for trading.

C

That’s a good idea considering the price for them these days. Yes, bookshelves are a hot commodity around my house as well. I’ve been hiding books everywhere. I think the next time I move I’m going to buy a ton of shelves from Ikea and turn the office into a library.

E

All good here, in spite of the ice and snow… So yes, the winter banner is about right

C

Member “genecramer” has reapplied because there is an “odd” member that keeps PM’ing him. I think I will just change his username and delete all of his post instead of having another acct. Look in the log for reference. I also have an email in with the other fellow looking for pipe tobacco, please don’t accept/decline that one just yet.

X

weird. Who is the “odd” member? What is genecramer’s new name?

C

“ad_noseum” He wouldn’t tell me who it was, it’s pointless to bring up if you don’t name names… :-??

C

Here’s a screenshot of the PM

C

Heads up guys: I’m going out of town on Saturday the 15th and will be returning on Thursday the 20th. I probably won’t be on here at all during that time.

X

still weird. ok, have a good trip!

X

either 2 members of one household, or he’s having a joke on us: http://snuffhouse.org/user/browse?keywords=117.223.234.142 no action taken as yet, just watching.

M

Funny, on the “let there be snuff… this christmas” thread Michaeliverpool addresses a question from Snufffly… I wanna say something sooo bad!! I can’t figure out what kind of game he / she is playing… I’m very curious tho…

M

I seem to recall a thread, something like “funny things from the mod side” or something like that… maybe we should let people know we can see ip addresses and there’s people on here talking to themselves…

E

Might be a good idea.

C

Looks like things have been quiet! Back from vacation, had a nice break. Re: Scotches: I looked in a few grocery stores and corner markets, didn’t find much of anything. Not sure if the market is changing up there or if I just didn’t look in the right places. I didn’t have much time to travel around like I had hoped; we stayed at an Inn downtown and stayed in that area most of the time. Anything new?

X

I’ve been busy doing holiday things as well, and only get a few minutes here and there for snuffhouse. No problems here when I look in, other than the odd action noted above. Don’t worry about the scotches. I have plenty and a reliable supply of a good variety. Glad you had a nice trip.

X

There was what appeared to be a legit application in the spam folder, but it was there twice from two different IPAs. I guess the spam filter flagged it because of email frequency. One was 10 times the other 14. I’m not sure what causes that. The application said “new to snuff” from casperbear96. I marked both as not spam, and they automatically went to approval. Since they were identical names, I then deleted one. However, the odd thing is when I clicked on the IP address it changed to *MY* IP address. I’m not sure if its a glitch in the technoworld or a trick by of some kind by trolls or spammers, but this member is certainly not me! Please keep an eye out on this member, and zap him/her of anything suspicious happens. I hope somone cannot hack me through the forum somehow!

C

Just looked at the IP, that is very odd. I have a bad feeling about it but I’ll wait in case it is legit. Yikes.

M

When I looked up the ip it came back to some kind of military network or something. Maybe many people sharing the same network? Just a thought…

M

I keep meaning to pose a question. Sometimes I would like to email an applicant to try to get more details. I really don’t wanna use any of my current emails or start another account. Anyway to set up something like “mark@snuffhouse.org”? If the person is legit they might disregard a gmail addy as spam. If we gave our email to a spammer we just just delete the account and set up “mark2@snuff…” or whatever. Does that make sense??

C

I have a gmail account set up for mods to use: thesnuffhouse@gmail.com pass: snuffhouse2007

C

Two commercial sites have joined, keep an eye out for site pimping: James_buysnuffcouk mostlyboxesantiques

C

Both members have only posted once, both posts were to plug their websites. I have deleted any URL’s and PM’d the members explaining that joining to only plug is not welcome but they are welcome to join the conversation.

C

I have spoken to “mostlyboxesantiques” and she is interested in being a contributing member, I explained the sponsor deal with her and how it’s not right for shops to pay to advertise while some just post links, she is ok with that. I have also instructed her to engage the membership and then down the line she could post in the BST. As for the other one, I have yet to hear anything from the PM or email I sent.

X

I think buysnuff.co.uk is a revamp of snuff.me.uk. They look sort of similar.

C

snuff.me.uk is still in business

X

Yeah, I just looked and edited my post.

C

Well that’s not good. I have shopped with Jamie before, rather disappointed.

C

@Xander: BST post, tick tock tick tock.

X

yes ,dear

X

I’m ticked off that my fourth anniversary badge is not here. I think it was due a day or two ago.

C

I actually turned off badges for you… Nah just kidding. You know how this thing goes, I guess it has to go through a crawl or something. I should be getting my 5th next month.

X

hehe, I’m not too bothered, but I have come to sort of like the badges. Anyway, the forum seems to not concern itself with specific dates once the year turns over. I can only see month/year of any post before Jan 1.

X

All I remember is that I joined in Jan 09; I thought the date was in the single digits but can’t tell. Although I had been lurking since before Xmas 08, that doesn’t count.

C

If you roll over the date a little bubble will pop up that says the exact date. The same thing annoyed the hell out of me until I rolled my mouse over it.

C

Actually this year I will be getting a 6th anniversary badge. Damn.

C

That is interesting! I can’t believe it has been 6 damn years, this place has gone through a lot of changes, looks, ownership, and membership. Everything seemed so new and undiscovered back then, I kind of miss that feeling. \\End sentimental post

X

Today an applicant spammed about a dozen members trying to sell Thuoc Lao tobacco from Vietnam. I received a complaint from a member, so I investigated and then declined the guy’s application - effectively deleting all the applicant’s posts. Now had he not sent PMs to all these members trying to sell, I would have approved his application, since it read something like “I love snuff and want to make new friends.” Anyway, my concern after all this is over is that applicants can PM individual members. They had the ability to create profiles and even post spam (or not spam) on the Activity board, which is not intrusive to the forum or to individual members. I looked in the dashboard to see if I could fix that with one of the little check boxes that allow various powers, but not seeing any obvious one, I left it alone.

C

This same thing happened the other day. I changed a few check boxes, ones that have to do with profiles and such, should be fixed now, if we have any other issues with it I will contact Vanilla

X

Was the previous incident also about Thuoc Lao? Some of our members actually responded positively to locating a source for it, but seeing as the guy was an applicant, not even a member, and trying to conduct business, it seemed like he had to be blocked. Had he been an established member this would not have been an issue. Quite a breach of etiquette, which the guy probably has no clue about.

X

Ok, he’s back in the applicant queue. Chris, do you want to explain the rules before he joins, or should we just let him in?

C

Email sent. If he doesn’t reply I will deny his app.

C

I have added the @mailinator listing to the ban list. An applicant with the username “jjaa” applied with “asdf” under reason. After banning this email addy there were 2 other “members” banned, one of which with the name “jjaa”

X

Throw a net - catch some fish. Had some big catches months back when we first learned that trick. Sometimes over 100 “members” banned in one instant. I think for awhile there Nigel was just approving every application.

C

Or it could have been some roque accounts. Apparently “mailinator” allows people to create ficticious email addresses on the fly.

C

I activated the sharethis, doesn’t look like it has done anything? We used to have all of those things activated, I don’t think anyone used them. Most of the population here either: 1) Doesn’t have a social networking page, 2) doesn’t know what social networking is, 3) thinks the government is spying on them through social networking. I activated them all anyways. I mostly use Twitter these days, I will see if I can sign on with with Twitter id.

C

With the Facebook and Twitter addons I have to make apps on FB ant TW, I will do this later, I don’t have access to social networks at work.

C

@Xander: Your thoughts on the future of reviews here?

X

Mixed. I’ve been talking with Frank about helping him over at Snuffcentral. Its much easier to arrange it there. If making it our own official review site is what we do, I’m happy with that. We just have to build a bridge. However, I’d hate to lose what our members have submitted here (and my own work), so I don’t think we should just do a blanket delete. We need a transitional plan.

C

I agree. We shouldn’t act too fast. Slow and steady should do.

C

Fellas: I tightened up the spam settings, we shouldn’t get as much now. I didn’t make it so tight that old members wouldn’t be able to reapply but narrow enough to keep out the heavy spammers.

X

What are the spam settings?

C

@Xander: The settings have limits on how many times an IP or email address has to come across in order to get sent to the spam folder or rejected all together. Rejection was set at 50, I bumped that down, the spam folder was 20, that was bumped down as well. @MrSnuff: Chances are my employer has blocked the addon from showing, every social networking “item” is blocked by open DNS, I will check it out later at home.

C

http://snuffhouse.org/settings/stopforumspam

X

I can follow your link, but I can’t figure out how to get there from the dashboard.

C

You have to go into the addons, then to “Stop Forum Spam” settings.

X

Ok I see it thanks.

X

Spam has slowed down already, unless someone else is deleting them

C

Not I.

E

I’ve deleted a few of them…

C

It does seem like the volume has decreased. There are times I will pop in with 20+ spammers. Now it’s down to 3 or 4.

C

Guys, I need suggestions for a “saying” about snuffhouse that will be on a banner. Something like “All Snuff, All The Time” or the like. You know how tv stations do it, like Fake, I mean Fox News "Fair and (un)Balanced) I know you guys can come up with something classy and un-corny!

C

I have delined 2 applications from “oldpunker” No info on the application. One more time and I’ll email him/her.

X

I thought we had a slogan: “Dedicated to Nasal Snuff” Do you want a new one?

C

Hell, I’ve forgotten about that one. I think you are right. Maybe it is best to stick to the traditional slogan. EDIT: I’m such a doofus some times. That slogan is right on the front page. More coffee please!

C

I have a request in with Dogwalla to make our banner for the exchange.

C

Haha, I do that all the time. Ah, good old human nature.

C

Here is a retro banner I threw together. All from the original Snuffhouse site.

X

That’s pretty cool.

X

I’ve been leaving two applications unapproved for being too vague.

C

I declined them. Very odd reasons.

X

I added a little addendum on the Terms of Service, if you think it looks ok. Hopefully it will reduce the number of vague applications.

M

I just deleted another new white elephant thread by “livingmydreams” or whatever his name is. He’s starting to piss me off, we’ve given him enough warnings. Personally I would delete his account.

X

I he probably hasn’t seen the message yet if it gets deleted before he returns.

M

I didn’t send him a message, I just deleted the thread. It seems to me he keeps starting new threads to sell his w/e, we ask him to post in the trades thread but he just keeps starting new threads… am I missing something?

X

Yeah, I’ve warned him twice. But there’s a good chance he’s not seen the warning before someone deletes the post. Someone will have to send him an actual message. There’s no reason he shouldn’t be allowed to post in the BST thread. He’s been around for a few years and seems to be honest.

C

@Xander: Looks good, I just hope people actually read it. Re Livemydreams: I will PM him. if he doesn’t stop then we will decide what to do next. He is an honest seller, I have bought from him before, are his prices inflated beyond belief… yes, but he did deliver.

X

Yeah, I’ve got no problem with his service( by reputation) but No, I will not pay that much, even for a rarity. If he wants to post on the BST thread, and folks want to send their money so be it. It will last as long as there is demand, and he’s not undersold.

C

PM sent. I reiterated the fact that I do not want to take any action against him and directed him to the BST.

M

Now I understand, we’ve never sent him a message, just commented on his thread. He’s lucky I’m not Mr Snuff! I would tell him to buy a banner ad or get lost. I can’t imagine (myself) buying “new” snuff to resell on a forum owned by a snuff retailer… It’s not the same, to me, as selling off a collection or trading between members. From what I can see, he hasn’t contributed any meaningful comments for at least 2 years…

X

I buy new snuff and resell to members! Only becuase they can’t find it locally and they shouldn’t have to pay to export it and re-import it making it cost prohibative. However, I do it at a very low profit margin, pennies per tin really, which I’m not even sure covers my time to go and get it. However, I do take your point. He’s not a contributing member.

C

Dave is pretty tolerant of folks with the BST. Vijay is only here to pimp WE, which he won’t be able to do once Dave gets it in stock… I’m guessing it will be cheaper than $13 a tin.

C

Thanks for catching the comment by Kaiser @Xander.

X

The Kaiser comment was over a day old. I don’t check the stickies daily. It got a lot of “likes” sad to say.

C

I hardly ever check the stickies as well… Re the likes: not surprised actually.

M

Totally different Xander, you contribute TONS!! Where was the Kaiser comment? I missed it…

X

it was in the what’s in your nose thread. Still visible in the change log, with a youtube video attached. The video is militaristic, but not really objectionable. The comment was.

C

It was in the Nose thread. It is in the change log now. It’s funny that he felt so strongly about “zulu savages” but couldn’t spell the name of the battle correctly Herp-derp

X

Ishlawanda?

C

Isandlwana

M

Ahhh… Now I know about the “change log” I was looking for something like that earlier today but didn’t know what it was called.

X

So, I can’t spell it either. I guess I’ve never heard it aurally either. Its funny, I’ve watched a lot of movies about that, and even when the British army is portrayed as the protagonist, I still find myself pulling for the Zulus. Some of them evoke the postion of the defenders better than they intend. In America, Dances with Wolves is a good counterpoint. Its a shame Kevin Costner is so cheesy, and they seek over-the-top emotional moments, otherwise the movie would hold up.

C

There was a movie on Netflix the other day about it, can’t recall the damn name. Looked pretty decent.

X

Was it this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulu\\_(film) I’ve seen that one. Decent flick. No appropriate place to post this statistic, but I’m comfortable saying it here; I read recently that the casualties in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined are approx. 4000 US soldiers dead in action. Yet, 16,000 are dead from suicide, including in service, on leave or discharged veterans. That’s 4 times the number of battle losses. I’m not sure what that means to you or anyone else, but to me it says that instinctively they know something they have done or been part of is seriously wrong. Probably very few of them are politically awake, but something in their human nature is awake for sure.

C

PTSD and other mental disorders. The Govt. is ‘recycling’ troops, i.e. sending the same ones over multiple times. I have watched some interviews with soldiers from Irag and Afghan., most of them talk about how they can’t cope with everyday life, they are always paranoid and on edge, they also talk about the rush of being in battle and how everyday life is a “letdown” compared to it. I think that is the movie, I will add it to my queue.

X

There’s also this one, the other battle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulu\\_Dawn Anyway, I think your post combat analysis over simplifies the issue. PTSD an those other symptoms are indicative of long-term depression and/or hopelessness- despair. I don’t think its simply getting addicted to the rush/adrenalin of battle.

C

Well, I suppose if vets were treated by licensed mental health counselors instead of social workers we might have a clearer picture of what is really going on. It doesn’t seem that the current treatment policy is going to change anytime soon so it will probably be years or decades before things are sorted. Here’s the DSM IV criteria for PTSD, 2 critera must be met for diagnosis: Diagnostic criteria for PTSD include a history of exposure to a traumatic event meeting two criteria and symptoms from each of three symptom clusters: intrusive recollections, avoidant/numbing symptoms, and hyper-arousal symptoms. A fifth criterion concerns duration of symptoms and a sixth assesses functioning. Criterion A: stressor The person has been exposed to a traumatic event in which both of the following have been present: 1.The person has experienced, witnessed, or been confronted with an event or events that involve actual or threatened death or serious injury, or a threat to the physical integrity of oneself or others. 2.The person’s response involved intense fear,helplessness, or horror. Note: in children, it may be expressed instead by disorganized or agitated behavior. Criterion B: intrusive recollection The traumatic event is persistently re-experienced in at least one of the following ways: 1.Recurrent and intrusive distressing recollections of the event, including images, thoughts, or perceptions. Note: in young children, repetitive play may occur in which themes or aspects of the trauma are expressed. 2.Recurrent distressing dreams of the event. Note: in children, there may be frightening dreams without recognizable content 3.Acting or feeling as if the traumatic event were recurring (includes a sense of reliving the experience, illusions, hallucinations, and dissociative flashback episodes,including those that occur upon awakening or when intoxicated). Note: in children, trauma-specific reenactment may occur. 4.Intense psychological distress at exposure to internal or external cues that symbolize or resemble an aspect of the traumatic event. 5.Physiologic reactivity upon exposure to internal or external cues that symbolize or resemble an aspect of the traumatic event Criterion C: avoidant/numbing Persistent avoidance of stimuli associated with the trauma and numbing of general responsiveness (not present before the trauma), as indicated by at least three of the following: 1.Efforts to avoid thoughts, feelings, or conversations associated with the trauma 2.Efforts to avoid activities, places, or people that arouse recollections of the trauma 3.Inability to recall an important aspect of the trauma 4.Markedly diminished interest or participation in significant activities 5.Feeling of detachment or estrangement from others 6.Restricted range of affect (e.g., unable to have loving feelings) 7.Sense of foreshortened future (e.g., does not expect to have a career, marriage, children, or a normal life span) Criterion D: hyper-arousal Persistent symptoms of increasing arousal (not present before the trauma), indicated by at least two of the following: 1.Difficulty falling or staying asleep 2.Irritability or outbursts of anger 3.Difficulty concentrating 4.Hyper-vigilance 5.Exaggerated startle response Criterion E: duration Duration of the disturbance (symptoms in B, C, and D) is more than one month. Criterion F: functional significance The disturbance causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.

X

True, but I don’t think its just war that creates this psychology. In Warld War two, there were many more soldiers involved for higher stakes. Many of whom were not professional soldiers, but recruits and conscripts. The big differnce, to my mind, is that they saw that they were working towards some greater good, or that something truly evil needed to be stopped, even if it made them do smaller evils in order to get there. However, when you look at the war from a Japanese or German standpoint, you see a lot of similarities between them then and us now. Sadistic behavior, insanity, etc. There are dozens of movies about POW camps from these places that show you a bit of it. Meaning there was an insctictive drive saying “you are doing wrong” in their minds. And here is another good Zulu film (show-series) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaka\\_Zulu\\_(TV\\_series) This was on when I was a kid. Together, the three provide a pretty good historical perspective on the era/region.

X

Ok, good post. I’m glad I’m not a psychologist, because that’s an awful lot to keep track of. I;m thinking more in a sociological sense than in a psychological one though.

C

My wife’s profession spills over sometimes X_X The suicide crisis is a larger problem than only one causation; there could be multiple causes within that statistic as well as many individual causes. Sadly, I don’t thing the Feds will ever devote the resources to the issue that are needed.

C

Alex, I see that you approved Bushwacker. I just approved Blackwatch but they have the same IP: http://snuffhouse.org/user/browse?keywords=82.26.85.55

X

I know. I guess I should have said. I wrote him a note asking which name he prefferred.

C

Oh ok. It’s odd that they have vastly different email “names”

X

I noticed that too, but in either case he should pick one. I’ll add you in on the conversation, in case one of us is not here when he comes back.

C

10-4

X

You’ll recall that before Snuffly and Michaelliverpool’s IP addresses were identical. Now it seems that these two and Manit_Joshi are all one. There are now 6 different IP addresses between them, but all trace to the same general area of Gujarat, India. Also I’m noticing a similarity in Manit_Joshi’s name and Michaelliverpool’s emal address. Lastly I would draw your attention to this thread http://www.snuffhouse.org/discussion/7278/how-many-of-dholakias-products-have-you-tried-and-which-is-your-favorite#latest Which seemed harmless, and I suppose still does, but seems an elaborate ruse and some false conversation simply to generate some artificial buzz around Dholakia snuff. Re-read the thread and watch the interaction between these “three” characters and where they choose to place their “like” badges.

C

Ok, I’m convinced. Good work Alex. He is pretty obvious about “Michaeliverpool” the email address is “Manitliverpool” I’m suspending the Michaeliverpool account and I will be sending Manit a PM.

C

I also notice that 90% of Michaeliverpool’s comments are about Dholakia

X

I noticed that too. I went back and looked at just his comments. Funny. Snuffly too?

C

I’m not concrete about that one. Need to look into it more.

X

Another legit person in the Spam queue: jorgea. It had an email frequency of 7 which is probably why it was flagged. Again when I override and class it as not spam, it’s automatically approved and assigned my IP address as its registered IP.

C

Interesting to say the least… I know that Dholakia products are cheap, on the original sachets Namrata shipped me years ago they had a cost in Rupees that worked out to pennies in USD. I also understand the way a business works and the way that cost gets added to product so a dealer can turn a profit. Last I checked you were not a charity. I have PM’d Manit still awaiting a reply. I have also deactivated his other two accounts “Michaeliverpool” and “Snuffly.” I hope he doesn’t make any other new accounts and responds to my PM with care. We have had too many retailers/makers on here that have turned into spammers, which makes my tolerance for them very thin. Thanks for the transparency Dave, I appreciate it.

C

Also, maybe he is pissed with the popularity of 6 Photo? One thing about Vikas, he is a stand up guy!

C

I received this PM from Supervape today: Hey sorry man I thought since what you said I should delete what I had said… then I had noticed next to my post the options to Tweet and what not is that something new? Never noticed that before… sorry if I caused any issues I am having some personal issues at home going on and a friend of mine was found dead with his head in the toilet a couple days ago from an apparent heart attack at age 32, then I get banned at snuson for something I had no clue about until I tried logging in there yesterday early morning for something that supposedly happened in early December with someone that I do not recall ever even speaking to on that forum… Was not trying to make any issues sorry for any confusion. Thanks foor your time Odd, strange, curious, odd.

X

yeah, he seems to have issues. I wonder if he’s making up stories too to illicit sympathy.

C

No idea. I’ve asked him to not post in the BST until he gets things worked out.

C

Proposal: We would make a set of general threads for the Marketplace, i.e.: Customs on snuff? Shipping Times? etc. Theads that seem to be constantly created. We could then lock down the section so that members cannot make new threads in the category, only respond. Thought this would be a good way to stop individual BST threads in the area. Thoughts?

E

Sounds like a good idea to me. It will certainly reduce the unnecessary duplication and proliferation of posts.

X

For marketplace: Whatever works out best. I have no objections. Soon I’m going to start phasing out the review section. First I will delete the categories with no reviews. I haven’t yet decided what to do with the ones with reviews in them. Case by case basis I’m guessing.

C

Alex, you can merge all of the reviews into one category.

X

I can, but then I will have to do a lot of manual relabeling of the thread titles.

C

He hasn’t logged in since the 5th. He was indifferent about the multiple accounts; I got the feeling that he didn’t really give a shit.

C

Life update: Over the past few weeks my wife and I have been looking at houses. We are in the contract process now and should be closing the first week of April. We are starting to pack right now and I’m sure as all of you know, moving is quite a process. Chances are as soon as the ball really gets going I won’t be around much until we are settled. We will need to get our rental cleaned up as well as prep the new house. I’m hoping it goes smoothly, but the mortgage process is quite a bear. Just and FYI.

X

Ok, Chris. Good luck and all.

E

Good luck with that. The last time we moved I swore it would be the last time we ever moved. That was in 1983 and we’re still in that house. I really couldn’t face moving again.

C

We are hoping to be in the same position. We only planned on renting for ~1-2 years.

X

A couple more ambiguous applicants. Chris, do you want to send emails to them?

C

I declined the one that wanted to buy, and approved the others. After approval it seems that we have a doppelganger: http://www.snuffhouse.org/user/browse?keywords=80.171.55.138

X

curious. Maybe the first one was forgotten. Whenever I see this, I wish I could read the original application.

C

I dunno. If you think one will be legit then you can reactiviate it.

X

I reactivated the original one, Pendulum. I checked and saw that I approved the membership, so I’m trusting myself that it was a legitimate application I approved.

X

Same guy applied again, different name, but similar email address. The application was blank. I declined it.

X

I’m sinking the thread that’s discussing cannabis. Its staying on the legal side, but I don’t want to encourage it.

X

Got this message: Ubert 10:45AM Hey Xander - If I understand it right you are a moderator right? Just in case you missed it - there are some really nasty posts in the chat room from someone posting as whitepowerbill…very nasty indeed. Don’t know if I am reporting this to the right person. Thanks and regards. Indeed very nasty, but I can’t do anything to the chat other than “flag” the guy. Looking if I can shut it down temporarily.

X

I hit the “disable” button and changed nothing else, and that seems to have worked since the chat is not here. I suppose the chat still exists on its own site. Do we have any control over that?

C

I am unable to access the chat at work, my employer has blocked Chantango. I will delete the chat box when I get home; I have been thinking about it for some time.

C

I tried looking up the chat on Chatango’s website, I can’t find it. I suppose it’s gone. I deleted the script for it. Lesson learned.

X

http://snuffhouseorg.chatango.com/ Everything is still visible there.

X

Have the spammers gone on strike? I haven’t seen one in ages.

M

I was wondering the same thing about the spammers… I assumed you guys made some changes. Did you guys notice “marty108”'s one and only post, on BST? 41 cans of white elephant for sale… The IP tracks to spain…

X

Yeah, I saw it. Not against the rules what he’s doing, but I guess common sense would keep people from trading with anyone with only one post.

C

I thought you guys were deleting them all! Ok, I guess it’s still live. I will log in tonight and delete the damn thing.

C

I looked up the IP of “Whitepowerbill” the IP is from California from a wireless account. Probably a teenager.

M

I wasn’t thinking it was against the rules. I thought maybe it was “livingmydreams” with a new account. I guess not if “marty” is in Spain. Nobody changed the application process to get rid of the spam apps?

C

A while back. Maybe it is finally kicking in.

C

Spring is around the corner so I “defrosted” the banner.

X

Indeed it is. Here, flowers are emerging from the ground, there are larger numbers of birds everyday. The sun shines longer and longer. Still fairly chilly most days though.

E

So why do we keep getting more snow? We’ve had snow on and off since October. Not at all what an English winter is supposed to be like (which would be mostly wet and a bit chilly in January and February). Oh well, we’ll probably just go straight into summer - ie wet and a little less chilly…

C

Haha Tony! The UK kinda sounds like Florida but reverse. We have hot and hot with rain! Out winter has been odd, 84 one day, 50 the next, then freezes and then 84 again. Oh well, hopefully it starts raining soon, fires are popping up everywhere.

E

Seriously weird weather there Chris! Best we managed today was 2 C, late this afternoon. Best we’ve had this month is about 8 C and the worst was about -8 C. More snow forecast for later in the week. Great fun. Serious bit. I noticed “JayJay” pushing snuff me.co.uk rather hard in a couple of threads. One to keep an eye on I think.

C

Yeah, I think I’m going to PM him and let him know how it works.

C

Not sure about the app in the queue… thoughts?

X

I left it alone before. Now I’m thinking: decline. Its not a full sentence or a complete reason. Let them reapply. If they want in badly enough, they will.

E

I left that one for the same reason. Inclined to agree with Xander.

C

Two odd applicants that need a second eye. I’m inclined to decline both. Seem fishy.

X

I declined “answer question” Answer question about what? Would I like to buy Gucci bags? He did have “tobacco” as part of his email address. I think I declined him a few days ago for the same reason. “I like snuff?” I approved this one. At least he said the magic word.

C

I looked up the url for the “Tobacco” one, it is a whole leaf store. Something tells me he was going to pimp his site.

M

Hey guys! I have a favor to ask. Without going into all the boring details… I have a website, www.rentametaldetector.com. Basically, people lose their stuff, usually on the beach, find me on the web and rent my detector. It’s been great, a few extra dollars here and there but more importantly it’s very rewarding and I have some heartwarming stories of people being reunited with their valuables. I’ve been racking my brain for years trying to figure out a way to expand the concept, it possibly becoming a real viable business. I don’t understand search engine optimization… I just know that when i search the words “rent a metal detector” my website shows up at the top (of google at least) I don’t know if that’s because I’ve searched those keywords so many times or if it only “works” because google knows where I live! What I would like you guys to do for me is: Go to whatever search engine you use, type in “rent a metal detector” and tell me the results. Do you see my site? Is it near the top? Where do you live? I think I know basically where you live but just in case. I know how to add locations and help with more local results, right now I just trying to figure out some basics… Thank you in advance, Mark

C

It was the 4th result for me. You know where I live

M

Yes I do, thanks Chris!

E

Perhaps not surprisingly Google didn’t find your site from here within 10 pages of results, but there again, I am rather a long way away! However, when I searched on “rent a metal detector Florida” your site was the first result, so I guess all is well.

M

Cool, thanks Tony! I have to figure out if it works outside of Florida but I can test the from here. Thanks again guys!

X

it was eighth on my search results. The ones higher were skewed towards closer services. Good luck!

M

I’m pretty once I had a “location” in Orlando, for example, and listed Orlando on my front page, I would get closer to the top. Of course, I don’t really know!!!

M

You guys see the "burned by Mr Snuff thread??? Should we do anything about these types of threads?

E

Tricky one. There’s no doubt that UK customers get stung by those currency conversion charges. It’s really rather a pain, given the fact that both vendor and customer are in the same country, though I thought better of adding to the chorus of course, even though it’s happened to me several times. I feel it will all subside nicely once we get charged in GBP, as Dave has said will happen.

X

Dave, I’ve been watching the thread. I haven’t commented or tried to sink or close it. Its stayed civil, and as expected you get plenty of people coming to your defense. However, there are always going to be a few complaints/complainers no matter how many perfect transactions that happen to counterbalance them, but they never seem to be enough. I thought you might want to go and comment on the thread yourself as to the particulars. If the guy is being dishonest then maybe point that out.

X

I’ve whispered Steerpike and given him a warning. His most recent is leaning towards trolling.

M

“Put the boot in”… is that bad? I wish these M f’ers would just leave the forum. I’m sick of reading this shit. You have the patience of a saint, Dave.

M

To me, all this amounts to extortion by internet… basically, give me something for free and I won’t publicly make negative comments… pathetic!

C

Wow. Looks like i missed a lot. As soon as I get to a PC I will be handing down a ban or two.

M

You sure you wanna do that?

C

Yep.

M

Cool. Personally I don’t agree but regardless, I got your back!

C

It’s ok to not agree. I don’t like banning people. I just don’t think that the two I banned will be contributing members in the future.

M

Actually I think we should have done it earlier, I disagree more with the timing I guess. I think we should have some kind of set policy for stuff like this. Personally I woulda deleted the thread / banned members at the beginning, but I can be kind of a jerk, at times!

C

I have been away, moved over the weekend. Please feel free to do so, you guys don’t need my permission to ban, I trust your judgement.

M

Lol, I don’t trust my own judgement!! I can be impulsive and defensive! I mentioned that thread on this thread at the beginning, I wanted some “back up” I guess… who knows, it coulda matters worse, we’ll never really know. I guess Nigel’s gonna leave the forum now, according to what he wrote?

C

Looks like its starting to be a shit storm. I suppose it will pass. Nigel is just as irrational as ever. He seems to forget how many people he banned and how many accounts he deleted.

C

Dave, if you think it would be best for the site and your business; I am happy to step down. I’m thinking it might be best to prevent an exodus of members. At the end of the day I am comfortable with the decision I made.

C

Looks like Vito and Snuffhunter have flagged me for Trolling and Abusive Behavior. Doesn’t seem like I can delete it, so I guess I will wear it with pride. :-??

C

It shows in my profile.

C

I have also sunk them. Once they are a few pages back I will delete them. I am still waiting for @Xander to weigh in on everything.

X

My honest opinion, is that banning without warning is too harsh. I did not ban specifically. Steerpike maybe I could see. He was trying to create more trouble even after his issues were addressed. Ad Noseum might have needed a strong warning or temporary suspension. Nigel I just don’t get. Now he’s playing hardheaded in order to be honorable to his word. Its clear that a lot of people often don’t read things fully before they respond, and sometimes the same thing has to be reworded (sometimes a few times over) so that everyone gets it. Also I have no qualms with Dave owning the site, but its clear that a lot of people do and this has added to the strife. There is an appearance of conflict of interest in keeping the forum completely impartial. I don’t think there is anyway we can ever prove that no matter how many times we say it.

C

Alex, do you think I should email Ad Nauseum to clear the air or do you think that it would create more issues? I agree about Nigel. He seems to forget all of the banning and deleting he did without any second thought but now it seems that since he gave his “word” he can be high and mighty. Mouse hit it on the nose in his comment about ego. I also agree about Dave owning the forum; I don’t think we will ever be able to show that things are done by us and not him but I also don’t know what else to do.

X

Maybe an email would smooth things over. Maybe tomorrow after everyone cools down a bit. Also if he were unbanned it would allow Nigel to return without humbling himself (which I doubt he would do, unless his wife or someone close to him told him he was being silly.) I had an idea a little while ago, was that if we ever got the ISTA off the ground, it could own the website and manage its finances, the members would have to buy shares, that is, if Dave is willing to sell it.

C

There are a few members that are constant pot-stirrers: Vito, CakeAndDottle, SnuffHunter, LuneCat. They stirred the pot before and I don’t see that changing. In a few days/weeks everything will probably be back to normal.

X

Yeah, I actually talked Nigel out of banning a number of people. Some got unbanned but a lot never came back. Chris, yes, eyes on them always. A few others too.

E

Sorry I have been less than active the last few days (other than accepting a few applicants). Lots on my plate with work and in particular a major headache with the Royal Mail postage price rise needing implementing on my business site. All done now anyway though I do feel like putting the boot in with the Royal Mail… It does look like the storm has just about passed on by now, so all good. I agree that it’s very difficult to prove impartiality and the more you try the more it tends bounce back at you! Better just to let things die down naturally.

C

There is another member of the Dholakia group in the approval queue. There are already 2 people from that company (that we know of) do you think that we need another one?

X

I guess so. Parag is the president right? Namrata’s husband?

X

In that case, I let him in. At least we know its not a fake name posing as a customer.

E

I’m beginning to think asieg33 may not be with us too long… Thoughts? He does seem to like to stir things up.

C

Yeah… not sure. He’s odd. If he stirs it up too much I’ll give him the boot. He doesn’t really contribute much of value anyways.

C

Looks like things are turning into a Shakespearean pissing match.

E

It does indeed…

E

And he’s just added another pile of steaming, bombastic drivel, blaming others for continuing the hassle. Quite clear to me that he is perpetuating the whole thing. I shall have a little word with him.

C

I’m thinking of banning him. Seems to only be able to stir the pot. I have reservations though, in light of recent events.

E

I have no problem doing it for you! He’s annoying the hell out of me.

C

Haha. I want to wait for him to reply. I’m sure it will be drawn out and without any single point. He’s just beating his chest, or brain.

C

If he reacts badly and you want to drop the hammer, you have my blessing Tony.

C

For some reason I think he is going to write us an essay.

E

I think you are absolutely right on that.

E

Curious…

C

If it is true then I am rather disappointed, very disappointed actually. I know that Roderick’s business mailing address is on a farm in the country; no (known) snuff facilities to be seen. How can he still guarantee that only natural oils are used; WoS and SG certainly don’t use natural products.

C

And I thought Roderick was responsible for a lot of the odd brands available. He one mentioned that he produces contract brands. Not any more I suppose.

X

I got a tin of Maya snuff in trade from Luxembourg. I’m pretty confident it is a Toque contract product. It has the texture and and flavor of a Toque. I’d be real suprised if Roderick was contracting out to someone to make his snuff.

C

So… who’s going to write the awkward email… :-h

E

Of course it could be just that he is now buying in the base flour from elsewhere, just as McChrystal’s buys its flour from Wilson’s of Sharrow.

C

I was about to ask about McC. Never really found out if they made their own or not.

X

Yay! The spammers are back! :O)

E

They sure are. I’ve declined several dozen already this morning.

C

Just declined another dozen. They must have been on vacation.

E

They shall not pass! (With apologies to JRRT…)

C

I’m thinking about changing our titles from Administrator/Moderator to Spam Blocker/Spam Police. They’re relentless!

M

I know!! I don’t know much about this stuff but… I gotta believe it’s one person… The way they stopped then restarted so suddenly… There’s no way to type in the phrase they use, and block any apps that use it?

E

It really is getting silly with the spam… I just zapped another 50 or so.

X

I just zapped 50 in the applicant queue and another 37 in the spam queue. #:-S A new record for me. I think I was only offline about 6 hours for that to build up. :-h

C

I think it’s just spambots. They probably get shut down for a while then find a new way to operate. The spam folder is a bit easier, I wish we had a deny all check box in the applicant folder. I thought there used to be one a while ago?

X

chris, just click on the word “Action” and it selects all. Then you click decline. Just looked and there are a few legit ones amongst the rubbish. I’m off to sort them.

X

Whoops. I declined all by mistake. Lost two proper ones.

X

Can you guys see the whspers here: http://www.snuffhouse.org/discussion/7855/the-international-snuff-takers-association-now-a-facebook-page-like-it#latest

E

What is he on? Total nut job… BTW I’m having some trouble accessing the site and staying logged in today. Weird.

X

Yeah me too. I was getting errors from Vanilla saying they were over capacity. It then gave me a link to click on, but when I did, it said “no errors reported today.”.

X

I hit back on my browser and retry the page I want instead of logging back in. Usually it remembers who I am if I do that.

E

Yes, I’ve been doing that too. Works most of the time.

X

Gah, spam is insane tonight. I’m deleting about 40 per hour!

E

I’ll second that. I’ve zapped over 100 already this morning, and it isn’t even 10am yet!

C

Ha, he doesn’t own anything. Might be the time for Dave to service mark it though. I was having issues yesterday, kept saying that it was over capacity. There is over 100 in the queue right now. Wowsers.

C

I have shut down the registration for a bit. Do you guys think an invitation basis would be best? For legit applicants we could have them send an email to thesnuffhouse@gmail.com and then we could send them an invitation? Would eliminate spam (I think).

C

Personally guys I don’t really give a shit about the ISTA. When’s the last time anything was done with it? What, 3 or 4 years? Anyways, he will eventually get bored with it and the Facebook page with sit for another 3 years. At the end of the day it’s Dave’s call.

E

I have shut down the registration for a bit.

Phew! Respite! It was getting a bit silly to the point of getting the way of my work…

Do you guys think an invitation basis would be best? For legit applicants we could have them send an email to thesnuffhouse@gmail.com and then we could send them an invitation? Would eliminate spam (I think).

I guess that would need a sticky so potential members can work out what they need to do. Might be worth a try. Who would the emails end up with?

C

we can all check it: User: thesnuffhouse@gmail.com Pass: snuffhouse2007

E

Thanks.

M

That sounds good to me. I wonder if we could forward the emails to our regular personal email accounts… I know in my case, I would have to sign out of my gmail account first… certainly not the end of the world but I run my whole biz on gmail / calender / google voice…

E

Good idea. I’m in the same boat of course.

C

I added a message for potential members, let me know what you think!

E

Nice and clear. That should do the job.

M

Thanks Dave. I’m signed in now, I’ll keep an eye on it. I tried signing in to more than one gmail account before but it didn’t work right, I don’t remember why… that was years ago so hopefully it’s improved. How do we send an invite?

E

Hmmm… I try that and it wants me to verify my identity.

C

I think it blocked you because of your location. It sent me an email today saying that someone in Hull UK was trying to access my account. Wonder who that was…

C

I just “told” google that it was a legit sign on, so you should be ok now Tony.

E

Thanks Chris. I’ll try it when I’m back in front of my desktop PC.

C

I feel the same way. Problem is, neither Snuffhouse or ISTA are protected. I don’t think Alex ever protected the intellectual property and sadly if someone wanted to protect the names without our approval they could.

C

FYI: Federal protection: ~$400 Florida: ~$90

C

I think I’m going to start up a Snuffhouse FB page before some other knucklehead does. Hell… maybe I’ll even start up an ISTA one too.

C

Yes, please do! I’m on your friend list, it might be easier to search via my email: chris.stks@gmail.com

C

Ok, I’ll look tonight. Anyone else concerned that the invitation thing isn’t going to work? I figured we would at least have 1 applicant by now!

X

There haven’t been many applicants lately anyway, but it does make it a little harder to join.

C

Not with Vanilla. I wish there were!

M

I still have no idea what I would do if I saw a legit application…

X

Mark you have to send an invitation to them. I saw a new ability to do this on my profile page, but haven’t tried it yet.

C

Ok… supposedly if you activate basic approval, CAPTCHA is integrated, however that is not the case. I went through the CAPTCHA signup but now it tells me I have to edit the java script for the forum, no idea how to do this. I’m going to put in a ticket with Vanilla about the basic approval. Also, I PM’d LincolnSnuff about making his ISTA page an “official” part of Snuffhouse, you know like he said he wanted to do… Well, I’ve not heard anything back from him. I’m going to PM him again, and if he doesn’t respond or responds adversely, then there will be a complete moratorium on him posting ANYTHING about his facebook page. I have registered 3 different ISTA pages in different categories, I will do the same with Snuffhouse. This will take some time though.

M

I just sent an invitation to michaelincam@hotmail.com

M

I created a label called “invitation sent” so we can mark an email so we don’t all send invites to the same person, I hope that’s ok.

C

According to Vanilla they “patched” the spam catching for registration. Supposedly we shouldn’t get any spam in the applicant area, only the spam area. We will have to see.

E

Looks promising. I just zapped 16 spam applicants.

C

I’ve killed about 50 or so, all in the spam queue. It makes it manageable I suppose. At least we don’t have to dig through for legit applicants.

M

I just declined over 30, 15 about an hour ago… all spam.

M

I just declined about 20 more. At least they were all in the spam folder… I personally liked the invitation method better.

C

Problem is, I’m not sure that people understood it. If applications continue to be slow I may revert back to it. I just need to see that they were slow in general and not because of the invitation only process.

X

Good because I just deleted 137, and didn’t feel like reading them to make sure they were all spam. I’m not going to delete any for a couple hours and see what kind of rate they come in.

E

57 more just zapped, and another one not in the spam list. Not the usual format so I guess that is why it got through.

X

Ok so that was about an hour and a half. So about 40 per hour is the rate. >:P

X

I see 10 in there now, but I’m going to wait for them to build up a bit before I delete them. Its like a game!

E

100 gone from the spam folder, one seemingly legit applicant in the right place. Looks like this is doing the job.

M

Man do I wanna make a nasty comment to Firestarter… what an ass! Anti Mr Snuff stuff… I know he’s just looking to start something and I grudgingly won’t give him the satisfaction!! Guess I just have to vent here!!

C

I’m waiting for him to hang himself one day (not literally!)

X

and Lincolnsnuff is being an ass to Bob in the snuff thief trap thread.

X

I had thought the spammers were slowing down for awhile there, but alas no. They seem to be hitting us about once every minute now according to the time codes in the spam filter. I delete 10-50 before I get annoyed and do something else. Always seems to be about 100 still to go.

E

Just shifted another 80… It has got very silly!

C

I would like you all to behold the buffoonery that is in the applicant queue.

X

This one?: “Snuff is expensive and i would like coupons” Probably thinks we’re a website for one of the big dip companies. It always amazes me how misinformed people are from a simple lack of reading.

X

Yeah, Firestarter is one of the trouble makers. (Hell, its even his name) but its a fine line that he hasn’t really crossed, yet. I don’t think he has an agenda, I think its a mixture of immaturity (I think he’s 19-21 therabouts) personality type, and whatever psychological issues he has (he went on about them in one of the threads.) I feel like a cop keeping profiles on suspects…except its only in my memory.

C

Ok, to hell with the spammers. Back to the invitation code we go.

C

Looking at the two members that sent emails for an invitation it looks as though this method might weed out the “coupon” or “looking to buy” people? Seems that they made rather cogent statements on why they want to join.

C

Should I move the invitation message to the side or leave it? I think its more visible as is and isn’t that distracting. Thoughts?

X

leave it for now. Were there other complaints about it?

C

Not that I know of. Just saw Shitstarter0’s comment.

X

Something is funny with the pockets. The top notice is now huge, and a few of the side ones are missing.

C

Ugh. What the fuck. I fixed the top one. The sidebar might have to be disabled until tonight when I can dedicate the time to re-write the entire thing. FYI Dave, no ads will be visible today.

E

There’s no email link in the top one now…

C

Fixed. This might be one of those days where it gets thrown in the river!

X

I think Vanilla changed something. There’s a Preview button below the comment box now. That must have had something to do with it. Anyway, one ad that was missing, and not just now, was the Snuff Reviews site. Can we put it back? Its nice to have a convenient link from here, and it’s really better to deflect reviews there than our crazy, hard to maintain review section.

C

When I get everything cleaned up I will put it back up.

E

Lost my mum this afternoon, so I may be rather absent over the next couple of weeks. All the associated tasks fall to me.

X

Ah, that’s very sad, Tony. I feel for you. Best of luck with all the tasks, take your time. We’ll be here when you’re ready to come back.

C

Very sorry Tony. Please, take care of yourself.

E

Thanks guys. Slowly wading through all the expected bureaucracy…

C

Fellas: Let me know if the sponsors are showing up ok.

X

yep

C

I’ve had issues getting on only to realize that I must have the www infront of the URL, and now the ads are screwed up again. I’ll have to get it sorted out. Not sure how many more times I will have the patience for this, its getting old.

M

Just got on after 2 days of thinking the site was down…

M

and my avatar is missing…

M

Considering I haven’t been on for 2 days and I’m only half a page “behind” on unread threads, I think it wasn’t just me…

C

Things are really jacked up. I don’t know why we now have to put www in front of the URL. @Lincoln any ideas on further issues?

C

I’ve put in a message at the Vanilla help area. Apparently it was a Vanilla-wide outage.

C

Try your old bookmark Mark

M

The way I finally got back in was…https://snuffhouse.vanillaforums.com/discussion… Not through…http://snuffhouse.org/discussions… which is the bookmark I’ve been using… I would think that would mean it had something to do with the domain as opposed to the hosting… not that I know anything about this stuff!

M

Nope… Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to snuffhouse.org Suggestions: Try reloading: snuffhouse.­org/­discussions Search on Google:

C

the short URL is working for me now The IP of the site did change so you might need to update your bookmarks

M

I just tried “snuffhouse.org” by itself, without /anything… same error message…

M

Ok, now i got it… gotta put in the www… I bet a lot of people can’t get on… Usually after 2 days off I would be at least a couple pages behind…

X

2 days for me too. back now

E

Likewise.

C

@MrSnuff: I’ve re-added the Club Snuff banner, for some reason it was lost in the mix. Let me know about Snus Direct. I have Nick @ Medwakh.com coming over on a trial basis, he seemed impressed with our traffic stats. Also, I’ve thought about adding a Sponsor-only area where the sponsors would be the only ones able to post threads for them to pimp out their product, would be a perk.

C

Alex, I’ve added a “button” for the snuff reviews site under the sponsors. Are we ready to “hide” the reviews section here? It’s a bit of a cluster. I don’t want to delete anything but we could at least hide it and clean things up a bit.

C

Thoughts on pictures next to categories?

X

Go ahead and hide it if you have time. If not I’ll get to it later. I was deleting the categories that had no reviews. Yes, we should preserve the existing ones. Any ideas from anyone on how best to arrange them?

C

We could absorb them into the “Types of Snuff” categories so they would still be visible and of use.

X

Not sure what mr manos is up to in the joke snuff thread but seems like trouble making. I am glad someone sank it.

X

I

We could absorb them into the “Types of Snuff” categories so they would still be visible and of use.

I guess that’s best. It will take a while, as I will have to do them one at a time. I’ll have to edit and retitle each one as well.

C

I sank the joke thread. The reviews have already been absorbed into the other category, the softward automatically takes each thread and drops it into where you want, no need for editing.

X

Yeah, but their titles need editing, since I had removed the maker’s name from the title and just left the snuff name. So you’ll end up with a lot that are the same name lke SP or Rose.

C

10-4

C

There is an invitation email in the inbox, it looks like another Dholakia person. Thoughts?

X

Its Prachi, Dave’s CS rep. I sent the invitation just now.

C

Ok, didn’t know who she was, sorry! No worries Dave RE the emails, just wanted to keep you informed.

X

Gah! Some of these invitation requests are more vague than the old applications. Just now I invited one, and asked two more for a reason why they want to join.

X

Chris can you have a look at some of those applications. They seem pretty weird. I asked one guy for more info, he came back with a bunch of BS. Another I asked came back with some nonsense about snuff in movies.

C

I deleted a couple. Very odd. I think I’d rather not have them post on here! Also… there is an applicant by the name of Pieter Claasen, says he is 29 years old. I’m sure it’s a common name but…

X

Ok, the movie guy did send an earlier more sensible email that I didn’t see before, so I invited him. I invited the new Pieter Classen (last name is spelled different from our guy) seems legit other than the odd coincidence of a name. I left the Kenyan tobacco grower for your decision.

X

Gents, my girlfriend just surprised me with an impromptu trip to Niagara Falls! She arranged it all and then told me about it afterwards. Cunning. She said she go alone if I didn’t go with her. Ok, twist my arm. I’ll be gone all Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. I’ll bring my computer, but I don’t know if I will have much time to log in. I’ll be sure to look for snuff along the way though!

C

Have fun Alex. We will be doing the ole BBQ thing in the backyard.

E

With three family birthdays, a christening and a funeral to attend I may be a little absent for the next 10 days…

C

No worries Tony. Sounds like a roller coaster of life.

X

Home now. That was fun. Only snuff I found on the way was some old Pöschls in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Fireworks over the falls were kind of lame. My own city puts on a better show, but Niagra does do them every weekend. So I guess they do quantity over quality. If any of you guys want to go ever, I can give you a recommendation for a really excellent B&B.

M

I tried a 'whisper" a few minutes ago… some how it got posted like 5 times! I can’t seem to clean it up… anyone able to help out?

X

Same thing happend to me once last week. I kept hitting enter since I didn’t see the post. Finally refreshed the page to see it posted three times. We can’t delete whispers for some reason.

C

Lets keep an eye on “Dasr” seems to be a bit off. I closed his drug thread, upon further inspection his nose burn thread is odd and borders on trolling.

C

@Xander: I have added you to a PM, maybe you can make heads or tails of it.

X

yeah… 've been there. Usually had the sense not to ht the “send” button.

X

Oh. btw, I’m about 95.7% ready to ban adamsnuff, I’m not sure what will put any of you guys over the top, but won’t take much convincing, the guy (tries but) is not trying hard enough to hide his trolling.

C

lets just ban him and save the headache. I don’t think the natives will care.

C

Did you totally wipe him out?

X

you’re right about the natives, but my duty is to justice first. Do we have a just reason n to ban? Guys forgive me if a lot of my posts don’t make sense. My “i” button is behaving erratically, and I don’t always notice.

C

Next time he screws up he’s gone. Oddly enough I cliked on his profile and it said user not found but now its working. Odd.

X

no it wasn’r me??

M

I went ahead and banned Adamsnuff after his last rant… it was inevitable…I think that’s the first time I’ve banned someone… i don’t really feel so good about it… ok, maybe a little!!

M

Did you guys see this email in our gmail inbox? Kathryn Kane <kathryn.k.kane>
6:37 PM (1 hour ago)

to me
I was shocked to see the post by someone named Xander in your forum, at: http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/8056/sneeshin-scottish-snuffing-the-regency-redingote-blog

Xander stated, quite blatantly that my article had been, “Retitled and moved to the library.” However, neither Xander, nor anyone else from your forum, has contacted me for permission to use my article. My copyright statement clearly states that no one may take any of my original work and use it elsewhere without my permission. Every article posted at my blog, The Regency Redingote, is my original work and is protected under copyright.

I was appalled to see that you apparently feel you can take any one’s original work and do with it as you please, including changing the title, without even bothering to ask permission.

Please remove my copyrighted article from your “library” immediately. And, in future, please do not help yourself to any of my articles again.

Sincerely,

Kathryn Kane</kathryn.k.kane>

X

I’ll write back to her.

X

Ok, I wrote her a letter. Its on the gmail account. I hope that sets her straight. We didn’t do anything wrong.

C

Blah, her copyright statement is far too vague and unenforceable. We can link whatever we wish; she would have a damn hard time doing anything about it even if we copy and pasted her article, certainly since she didn’t even take the time to properly cite sources… I shall humbly remove my vitriol and have my slice of humble pie. 8-}

E

I think she probably just misunderstood, assumed that her writing had been copied rather than just a link posted.

C

You would think that she would read the thread and see that its just a link. We’ll see how she responds to Alex’s email, glad he sent it… you guys know how I can be. :-??

M

I see you commented on her article, Tony… did you tell her you where a mod here??

M

Why would someone write an article then post it on the internet unless they wanted as many people as possible to read it? Makes no sense, to me…

E

Tell her I was mod here? No I didn’t actually. Thought about mentioning it… thought better of it. I honestly think she took ‘renamed and moved to the library’ the wrong way, not realising it was the post here that was being referred to. I’m happy to give her the benefit of the doubt anyway. I’ve read parts of that blog before - some interesting stuff there, but I couldn’t ignore the suggestion high toasts are black! We’ll see how she responds to my last post there. From her first response she does sound willing enough to learn. BTW - I still can’t get into the gmail account. It complains every time about where I am. Sigh… It’s not that bad in Hull! (Except for the thunderstorm we just had).

C

Sorry Tony, it’s a security feature. It sees that there are logins from Florida and Delaware and flags any logins from overseas. I guess the algorithm is smart enough to know that someone can’t be in 3 places ~X(

C

Well, looks like I was right… better that Alex contacted her. What’s the old saying… you catch more flies with honey than vinegar? Thank you very much for your prompt and thorough response! My apologies for my misunderstanding of how your system works. I assumed that one of your members had copied my entire article into your “library” without my permission. I have recently had two other complete articles taken from my blog, without my permission, and posted elsewhere, with no credit given, so I am extremely sensitive on that subject just now. I do usually give permission for people to quote extensively from my articles, but I do like to know where those quotes will appear, and I do like to be given credit for my work. I am glad to know you liked the article, and in fact, it turns out you have done me a favor. Someone, who may well be one of your members, has pointed out an error in the article, which I have now corrected. Again, I apologize for jumping to the wrong conclusions. Regards. Kat

E

Nice result! I guess I’d better let her know that I’m a mod here…

X

Good. I’m glad that worked out. One needs to keep on good terms with one’s neighbors. Tony, since you can’t read it this was my response to her (I also assumed she just mistook my phrasing the wrong way as well) Dear Ms Kane, Let me attempt to clear up a few points. Firstly, one of our members discovered your article and posted a link to your blog directing members where to read it (on your website). He simply titled the thread in question “history.” This is perfectly legal to do and within copyright laws. Our forum members routinely discover articles which they feel would be of interest to other members to read, and direct them to the appropriate places to do so. No one, including myself have reprinted any part of your work here. As a forum administrator, I have simply retitled the thread (not your article itself - clearly I have no access to your blog administration) from “history” to the actual title of your article and the blog on which it can be read. I also moved the thread in question from the “General” section of our forum where the member had posted it, to a “Library” section of our forum which contains hundreds of such articles and links that pertain to snuff and snuff culture. Have a look f you wish, you may find some interesting material there. Its part of my job as admin to do just that - to keep the forum easy to navigate and tidy. Of course had something you copyrighted actually been reprinted on Snuffhouse, you would be within your rights to have it removed. As it stands, it is simply a link to your own site, which should generate increased traffic to your site which I would think you would appreciate. I hope this clears up any confusion, and I wish you best regards. I did enjoy the article you wrote. Graciously, Alexander Durnan (Xander) Snuffhouse Co-administrator Another error, or perhaps not, is the mention of inclusion of stems as well as leaves in the snuff for increased strength. I’ve seen that before, but Roderick has always maintained that Quit’s strength results from the removal of veins and stems. So what’s the truth? Are stems higher in nicotine or lower? She’s also got another article on regency era snuff, Beau Brummel, George IV, F&T, etc. I only skimmed it however.

E

Thanks for posting that here. The perfect response I reckon.

M

Hey guys… I asked a few of the invitees to be more specific… one of them (Alexander G) wants to promote his product as well as participate… can one of you “higher powers” take a look? Thanks!

C

Are the ads jacked up for anyone else?

X

The top one is showing an empty thin rectangle.

X

starting to get compliants about the frequency of Snuffmaster’s advertising: basement_shaman August 12 Snuffmaster all this advertising ? too many threads with SM in the title, Yes he created a product what will this forum become if every gadget inventor come and fills up the page. I don’t see Patrick Collins shoving his boxes in my face. Maybe if I ignore SM will go away. Sorry if I sound like I am whining .Too much snuffhouse time I guess. XanderXander 12:31AM I’ve noticed. ! agree He’s spamming a bit. I think he doesn’t realize we’re kind of a small community, where the corner shop doesn’t need bright neon lights to attract business from the neighborhood. I was hoping he would settle down after a few reasonable introductions to his product. I guess I will have to have a word with him. Although I am not sure what to tell him. Thoughts?

C

I warned him when he applied to not spam; he said he wouldn’t. I’ll PM him with a warning.

C

I have PM’d him and closed 3/4 of his threads.

C

Ah yes, the banners that don’t seem to be working today. X(

C

Seems like the spammers are starting to penetrate the invitation requests.

X

I guess that’s to be expected, since the email is visible to the world here. I haven’t had any time to go to the gmail for awhile, or even spend much time here these last few weeks as I’ve been studying and testing for my mariner’s credentials. Its now all finished as of today thankfully. 13 fng exams all passed with only until Tuesday as my deadline. Gah! If get a bit silly tonight that will be why.

C

OK, I thought something was fishy.

C

Sahib claims to be the manufacturer but his email is “empireoverseas” which does sound more like a shipping firm. Also, the website he directed the membership to lists a “Grover” (must be the Johnson and Smith of India) as the owner. He is sounding more and more like a fraud. Could you get the name of Vikas’ cousin so that I can be sure that this Sahib is a fraud; I plan on giving him the boot if he does not fess up. Is it just me or is Vikas the only Indian vendor that hasn’t pulled shenanigans?

C

“Sahib Khan’s” Linkedin: http://in.linkedin.com/pub/sahib-khan/74/69a/bbb http://www.exportersindia.com/empire-overseas/

M

Hey guys… I just deleted a whole thread by snuffysnuff… a drunken rant about what a ripoff / scam abraxas and sws is… I’m kinda in a rush going out the door so I acted kinda hastily… I hope yous can still read it somewhere in the mod logs…

X

Oh dear. guess he fell off the wagon again. I’ll have a look.

X

Well, I restored it but changed the category to moderation and closed it. So hopefully no one else but us can read it. The change log only shows the first post of a deleted thread, and I wanted to read it all. What to do? No doubt he’ll apologize when he sobers up, but even still he makes trouble whenever he goes on a drunken binge. Unless he reforms, it will happen again.

M

Oh… sorry you can’t read the whole thing… he kept going on, people replied, some upset, some just “defending” the products. Next time I’ll try to change it to the mod category. The thread was a disaster waiting to happen, I couldn’t figure out to save the thread by doing a little editing…

M

I understand now… you COULDN’T read the whole thing until you restored and moved it… got it!

C

No, I think he is well into his 40’s. He seems to exhibit this behavior after getting into the sauce a bit too much.

C

The end of the thread is pretty much what happens when a guy at the pub tries to start a fight, they start begging for a punch. He did say that he had 14 pints. Even I know to stay off the computer after that many.

C

Somehow I skipped over this part, but after re-reading it I’m starting to wonder where it should go:

Can’t be doing with fascist pig cunt copper cunts anyway.

C

Hello snuffhouse staff I awoke this morning with a horrific hangover and the vague but clear enough nightmare memory of my foul, disgusting appalling behaviour on snuff house last night where I venomously attacked Abraxas, sir Walter Scott, Nigel, and snuffers of their products. I am filled with so much shame and regret I can’t put it in to words. It goes without saying I’m sorry. I am sorry. Extremely sorry, but feel sorry isn’t enough. I suspect you’re a kind enough bunch to forgive me, but I’m not willing to forgive myself. Snuffhouse doesn’t deserve that kind of behaviour. I shouldn’t be allowed to participate after that outburst so I’m banning myself from the site henceforth. I will miss you lot. Thank you for deleting the thread and saving me from public shaming. Take care. Regards, Oscar.

C

Above email was found in the SH gmail acct.

C

I have a feeling that the guy selling the Bran-Dee only signed up to sell it…

X

yeah me too

X

I’m wondering about the new “log” button. What does it do? Has it replaced the report spam/abuse button? Can only mods see it?

X

Also I think summer is pretty much over. Should we switch to our neutral or autumn logo? Chris, if you tell me how, I can do it.

C

I think the log will show a list of reactions. I think. Sure, we can change over. If you go to the picture hosting thread and find the photo you like just download it to your pc. Then go to the “Banner” section in the dashboard and upload the photo.

C

If the banner isn’t in that thread then it is 2 or 3 pages deep in this thread in the zip folders.

C

I have been receiving emails from a “Robert Hunter” for an invitation code. After a few back and forth emails about the code not working he finally redeemed the code. Now he is asking for another code. If he continues to be a pain in the ass I’m going to delete the existing account and block his email address. I can’t tell if he doesn’t understand what hes doing or if hes a troll. Either way I don’t have the time for it. The account name is “istvzi1”

C

I guess the ebay guy moved the listing over there; me thinks we won’t be seeing much of him in the future. :((

X

He deleted his offer in the bazaar, himself? I saw he responded to me, so I deleted that bit. And yeah, I don’t think he’ll be back.

C

He left a “-” so I deleted everything.

C

After re-sending codes to the Robert Hunter character and resetting the account password he still wants another code. At this point I don’t care if he is legit, i’m tired of dealing with it. If someone else wants to deal the that idiot be my guest. I can’t take it anymore.

C

Fellas, I’m going to be taking some time off from the site; just a breather. If the shit hits the fan send me a personal email; I don’t expect you will need to though. -Chris

M

I know how you feel… I’ve been taking a few days off at a time myself… For a while I couldn’t be bothered to check our Gmail account. I kinda felt like I was the only one monitoring it. Maybe we should add another mod?

C

The gmail doesn’t need to be checked every day, maybe twice a week. I can’t really think of anyone that I would be comfortable with as a mod at the moment. We really don’t have any troll issues to speak of and we really don’t moderate that much when you look at it. Most of the functions are just maintaining the site.

X

Everything ok, Chris? I would like another mod, someone with enthusiasm. I get burned out on the little ongoing projects I do. I’d say Filek, but know he’s busy with the Polish site. I can’t think of anyone else.

M

I like the “with enthusiasm” part! I went back to cigs, probably over a year ago. Since then I’ve probably touched my snuff once or twice. Now I basically look through the threads scanning for troll-ish behavior but I really don’t absorb the material. I know I’ll quit smoking eventually and get back into snuff full time. Don’t get me wrong, this is a great forum and i’m proud to be part of it and honored to be part of the mod team. It has become a little “chore-ish” tho…

C

I’m just a bit burned out. I don’t plan on pulling an Alex S. or Nigel. Just need a good solid week or two.

M

… which reminds me… I’ll be on vacation the weekend of the 26th, probably 3 or 4 days. I’ll be in Sebastian, Fl… kinda close to you if I remember correctly, Chris.

C

Yep, my cousin just moved up from Sebastian; I was down there a few months ago. Neat little town.

M

Yeah, I can’t wait… I call it my “anti-Miami” spot. My timeshare is right across the street from Captain Hirams. I’m pretty sure you told me you’ve been there… but that may have been “nicotine rush” Tom… he lived (or still lives) in Vero.

C

I think he’s up in South Carolina these days.

X

I don’t use it myself. Chris is facebook savvy. Maybe when he gets back from his break.

C

Back. My Facebook is connected to the SH Facebook, so it’s not that big of a deal.

X

Thanks, Dave! Most generous. Tough choices as there are a lot of good ones there. I think SG Blue Crest is the one I want. Cheers!

C

Thank you for the generosity as always Dave! Still trying to decide.

M

Thank you for the generous offer Dave! Right now any snuff (especially bulk) would be wasted on me! I do plan to quit smoking when I get back from my vacation in a couple weeks, at that point I’ll probably place an order. When i was snuffing regularly, I was strictly using scotches and D white. The only “mainstay” scotch I’m out of is Bruton… and I’m very low on D white. I’m dying to try some of these other white Indian snuffs and I think some of the FUBAR line would be up my alley. Anything dry, fine grind and powerful! It’s hard for me to take the time to do all the research necessary to figure out what i would like… I’ll probably just post on this thread when I’m ready to order and ask my fellow mods for recommendations…

M

I left an app in the gmail box… the guy wants to find good deals on snus… Also, I just accidentally googled a app’s email address and it showed me that he’s also a member of a cigar forum… I think that’s kind of a good way to check up on these applicants… has anyone else ever tried that?

C

I usually google and facebook them. I just delete anyone looking to buy stuff, they usually don’t contribute.

E

Ooops… I seem to have accidentally taken a breather from the site. Finally concluded dealing with my late parents estates. All done and dusted now that I have the final letter from the taxman saying nothing owed or owing. Quite a relief and now to get back to normal. Such as it is. @MrSnuff - Very kind of you to offer on the bulk snuffs, Dave. It’s a toss up between the Wilson’s SS and Gold Label… Difficult! But I think I’ll opt for the SS. Thanks. I’m guessing you still have my address on file. Let me know if you haven’t. I’m reasonably Facebook savvy so I’ll be happy to keep an eye on that one.

C

Tony, as soon as I have access to my PC at home I’ll make you an Admin.

E

Thanks.

X

Ah ok, Dave, no worries. How about the Wilson’s Gold Label?

X

Oh Dave, also, not speaking for Chris, just guessing he’ll want the Princes, so maybe put a hold on it until he gets here lest its fate be that of the Blue Crest.

E

Thanks Dave. Much appreciated.

C

Alex is correct, Princes for me! Dave, I can’t remember if my new address is on the site: Chris Stokes 4849 Red Bay Dr. Orlando, FL 32829

E

Snuff arrived safely. Thanks Dave.

C

I have a bad feeling that there may be a battle of retailers down the road as it relates to Abraxas and SWS.

C

@MrSnuff: We have a new member that also sells Abraxas and SWS, I don’t know if the price points are different but if there is a difference I can see the membership turning into a mob about prices as it relates to different retailers.

C

David Bell from Lorfords? According to him Nigel is selling it to him directly.

C

It says “under construction”

C

We have only had one real issue with another shop coming on here and spamming so I’m holding out hope that this won’t happen again.

X

I’ve been in contact with him via our gmail account. He’s been very upfront and has asked what is and is not appropriate for him to post. He knows not to spam the site.

C

Thoughts on creating a category for stickys and “What” threads?

X

Not enthused by it, but whatever works best or is simplest I’m in favor of. Anyway, about this chit-chat thread: do you think we should clean posts out of it daily to give the impression of a real chat and readers don’t have to sift through 100 earlier posts?

X

Dave, 1lb Gold Label just arrived, thank you very much. Most generous - I was only expecting a half pound! Very fresh and nice too!

C

Re: Sticky Category: I’m indifferent, so if nobody is really enthused about it then I’m not going to do it. Re: Chit-Chat: Maybe we should ask them? If they want us to clean it up periodically then I don’t have a problem with it.

C

looks like you already took care of the chit chat

X

Yeah, they seem to want to keep the mess.

C

As long as the mess stays there.

C

Need a 2nd opinion on an app: “dr_bulscu”

X

I invited him. Yeah it seems like we are asking a lot in the application, at least to reasonably intelligent people. The dumb-dumbs keep at it though. The Drew Rossman application I was a bit wary of, since he says so little, but I invited him anyway.

C

Honestly, when I see an application that clearly doesn’t know what “detailed” or “articulate” is… it goes in the trash. Some just don’t get it and I can’t see them being contributing members.

X

My basic criteria is: do they mention snuff and seem to know what it is as a corollary.

X

First heavy snow of the season here today, so I was inspired to update the banner.

C

It’s sunny and 85 here… not sure if I’m happy about that or not… I was watching the Philly/Detroit game yesterday, the field was a thick blanket of snow, made me miss it a little.

C

I’ve added an Asst. Mod role. Only on site function would be seeing this thread for open communication. Other than that the role is narrowly tailored for scanning the emails and inviting new members. Interested so far: Viertel Firestarter0 Eliminated: Viertel: Only a member since May Questionable: Firestarter0: I think we’ve had some issues with him in the past, only a member for 1yr, need others input.

M

I always wondered if BasementShaman would be interested. He seems to be on here a lot.

X

Yeah, I’m not keen on Firestarter. He’s very young and also makes issues sometimes. Lots of negative comments. I’d be ok with Basement Shaman, and also maybe Lunecat, he’s a pretty frequent and positive comment sort of guy. I’d say Filek too, he’s been around longer than any of us, but I know he’s very busy. Still if he wanted it, I’d be ok with it.

C

Ok, thanks for the input.

C

Update: Interested so far: ViertelFirestarter0 Justin Eliminated: Viertel: Only a member since May Firestarter0: We all get the same vibe on this one. Questionable: Firestarter0: I think we’ve had some issues with him in the past, only a member for 1yr, need others input. Possible: Justin: He’s been around since 2011 and I can’t recall ever having an issue with him, seems like he would be a good choice? Maybe we should wait until the end of the week and call it? I’m not against having 2 assistants, sometimes the email queue can be cumbersome and it’s always nice to have extra eyes. The apps seem to be coming in at a good clip recently.

M

Has anyone tried to reach out to Dave regarding the “card fraudsters” thread? Do we have a way to email him directly? I think he needs to make a statement of some kind.

C

The only way I can contact him is via email, the same email everyone else has.

C

He was logged on a 2:30 pm… I’m sure he knows what is going on and is probably getting his ducks in a row and everything squared away before he addresses it.

C

Is everyone (minus Mark and I) still stuck in a freezer or is it starting to thaw out a bit? ~O)

X

Its kind of back and forth here. Everything is thawed and it has been rainy and foggy for days, though relatively warm. However, more snow is on the way.

C

So is everyone ok with Andrew becoming an Asst. Mod? Haven’t heard much from anyone. The apps were adding up.

C

Andrew let me know if you can see this.

C

That’s what I was afraid of. Let me see if I can change some settings @lunecat.

C

@lunecat: The applicants will now show up under the notifications tab; you will need to go into the Dashboard to approve/decline members. If the email addresses look fishy or the text they fill out looks odd, decline them. There will be a lot of spam to dig through so please be careful not to approve spammers.

C

Here is a screenshot:

C

When there is a new applicant it will show up as a little globe.

C

Oops, it might be another icon. Either way there will be a number in red that tells you the number of apps in the inbox. Edit: It’s actually a little gear, you can barely see it if there are no apps.

C

@lunecat: There are two applicants right now, both look legit.

C

Ok, sorry about that I missed a few check boxes.

C

Ha, we’re getting there :-B

C

If all else fails I’ll just make you a full mod.

C

Ok @lunecat, you are a full mod.

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welcome Lunecat. Sorry I’ve been a bit absent latley and not had much input. I was going to suggest returning to the old applicant process, since our UK mods can’t use the gmail account. With a few more hands there I think we can keep the spammers at bay.

C

So far it doesn’t look like we have the big spammer issue. It’s possible that Vanilla upgraded their filters. Here’s to hoping. 8->

C

If you happen to approve a spammer or bot you also have the ability to ban the person.

C

I guess he thought he was being sly by editing his post. This is the 3rd time in recent memory that this member has been addressed. The next time will be a quiet ban.

X

I’ve given him private warnings from time to time. Mostly for delving into politics (a subject on which he is sometimes rather belligerent). I usually delete the posts. maybe a public shaming will keep him in line.

X

Also, he wouldn’t be the first to make a post and then think better of it, and go back and change it. Usually, I let that stuff slide, but since its recorded in the change log we know who to keep an eye on.

C

I hate to say it but I’m kind of starting to agree with JPSavage. The “what” threads are getting a little too numerous. Did a quick count: In the first 6 OT pages there are 29 “What” threads. That’s not including the “What” threads in the other sections. Thoughts? Solutions?

C

We tend to only archive threads that are a few years old. Right now the only things I can think of doing are one of two options: 1. Make the OT section not show up in recent discussions 2. Put all of the What threads in another category and make that not show up in recent discussions.

X

I’m still hoping they thin out on their own.

X

maybe we could unsticky the “what tin did you empty today” and “what snuffs are in your rotation today” and see if they drop.

C

Another option would be to make a sub category in the OT section.

C

Ok, so I unannounced the two threads. Fellas, please look at the bottom of the main page and let me know your thoughts.

M

I was actually just thinking this morning… the “what are you eating” threads are getting on my nerves… Maybe just one thread for all meals and snacks??? With all the time differences… Who cares what someone’s eating for breakfast across the globe when it’s my dinner time?

C

Ok, I closed 4 of the “eating” threads and opened one generic one.

X

ISTA, eh? Glad you have the time and energy to get it moving. I’m all for it of course.

C

It’s not going to be a grand organization, just a spot on the forum for forum veterans. What do you guys think the threshold should be? Membership length and activity or just activity?

X

Membership length OR outstanding service to the world of snuff (i’m thinking like the guys that made Snuff Reviews who haven’t been with us 2 years). Activity should be recent though, I don’t think anyone who has not logged in for a year should be considered.

C

That sounds fair. I’m not keen on granting membership to folks that have 4yr old accts but only log in every 4th of July. I have PM’s out to Dave, Roderick, and Jaap to see if they can offer ISTA members something extra. No freebies but maybe special deals, info, and a window into the snuff world.

C

Sounds good Dave! Let me know what works best for you in terms of discount. Your contribution alone makes it a club worth being in!

C

So Shezzuk showed his head again. What do you guys think?

C

He always has, not sure why. I’m viewing it like a dog with his tail between his legs that has to get in the last bark…

M

Just thinking… maybe combine “what are you listening to?” and “what’s in your stereo?”

M

Andrew… “all cops are dumb???” WTF? Are you drunk? Do the other mods think that an appropriate comment for a mod to make??? Anyone else out there?

C

No, I don’t think its appropriate. As mods we shouldn’t get involved in these types of things, we certainly shouldn’t offer such commentary. Alex closed the thread.

X

We seem to be getting a bit of backlash/resistance to ISTA. People don’t like others being exclusive, understandably. They might feel differently if we charged dues. With dues, we’d need a treasury and a treasurer. Then we have to decide what to do with the dues. Should we take over the maintenance cost of the site?

C

I think the site costs $50+ a month plus hosting fees. I’m not personally a fan of pay-to-play systems. If everyone was allowed in it would be pointless to have it. I suppose if we get much more backlash we can just bury it and be done with the ISTA for good.

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I don’t mean to change the membership criteria, just once approved/accepted, they pay dues. If you have 100 members paying $10 a year the cost is covered.

X

I updated my note to members on the review section, since we no longer have a review section. Chris is there a way to put the Click Here… button on that thread page? I found the old one’s image, but its not a hyperlink.

C

I’ll look into it.

C

I think the best thing to do would be to make a list of snuffs and then create a poll. The only way to extract text would be to highlight and copy, but it would be messy as hell.

C

Anyone heard from Tony? Hasn’t logged in for 2 months now.

X

no

X

Yeah, he’s been a persistent troublemaker. Next time don’t retaliate, just ask him to voice his concerns in a respectful manner. Knowing him from the past he’s one to make judgements without knowledge. He can be assuaged if handled carefully but firmly.

C

cousin stuffy posted a commercial offer in the BST. Not sure how I feel about it, I dont want it to become a free for all.

X

I’m ok with it. At the worst he posted it in the wrong thread. Probably should have gone in the “where can I buy snuff on vacation…etc.” thread.

X

A rather bizarre application in the queue I’ve left for another opinion. “don’t mind snuff” is all it says.

C

Any reason the snuff making 101 thread was deleted?

X

wasn’t me

C

I know that Andrew deleted it, just don’t know why?

C

Ok, no worries!

C

@Xander: I’ve added you to a PM conversation. Let me know your thoughts.

X

WTF? I just declined an applicant whose application said “love of bourbon and rye.” Maybe he sent his “love of schmalzler and toast” to the whisky forum. Good grief!

C

I don’t have a problem with members grabbing things in their area for other members but what he was doing was just wrong, he wasn’t doing favors, he was doing commerce. His pricing was outrageous and exploitative. I know Alex has access to some scotches in his area but he didn’t gouge the members for them, he offered them at a fair price with a little on top for his trouble. I was on the fence on banning cousinstuffy for posting the PM conversation almost 10 times in multiple threads and for calling me a Nazi, but I figured it would be easier to let him stay and not incite the locals.

C

Hi Guys, First, I want to thank all of you for your dedication to the board for so long, without all of you this place would not exist. You guys are awesome moderators and an asset to this forum and David’s business. Lately my free time has become less and less, I’m trying to finish up my degree and my wife and I just found out that we are expecting. On top off that I work full time and pull some long days occasionally. I don’t feel that I can continue to be the Administrator here any longer. My time is increasingly being crunched and my hearts not in it like it once was. Between Alex, Mark, and Andrew you guys have the place covered and I know the forum will continue to operate at the high standards that it always has. I’ll leave it up to you if you want another mod and of course I’ll be available should you want any input. Alex, if you need any graphics that are not in the pic thread, send me an email and I’ll send you over the files. Dave, thanks for everything, I can’t say thanks enough for putting your trust in me and for allowing us to do our thing. It’s been a good run boys! -Chris

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Wow Chris, well congratulations and good luck on the pregnancy. Other than that I feel like you’ve dropped a bombshell. My own time is more limited than it has been in the past, and I won’t be able to admin this site on my own. Also I don’t have as many tech skills as yourself. Hopefully you can still help out here and there.

X

I’ve asked Juxtaposer to help moderate. He has declined. I’d appreciate any suggestions from the rest of you. Ermtony is ill, and may not come back. I might ask bob, though I don’t really know if he has a serious side, but he is loyal and moral. I’d like at least one, preferably two more full time mods, one at least who has technical skills enough to assist with admin. I either don’t know enough about the remaining members or have not developed enough trust with them. Chris, I’d much appreciate if you could give a letter of resignation to the forum. The reasons can be as vague as you like, but just include some statement of the sort that we are seeking some new help. You can direct all applicants to me. As some have said true leaders arise from not those who seek power but those who have it thrust upon them, I will endeavor to maintain the forum to the best of my ability. Though frankly I’m still having a hard time getting my head around it, since (it seems) just a short while ago, I was asking Alex Schardt for membership here. (I wouldn’t mind him coming back to help now either.) And I don’t really feel qualified, though I will persevere in my existing duties to the best of my ability.

X

whalen is also someone I trust, bu has been inactive of late.

C

Alex, If you are truly concerned that we won’t be able to find mods, I would be willing to shift responsibilities. I.E., you will now be the sole admin and I will return to mod status. I’ll be more than happy to take care of the technical stuff and delete the occasional post or thread but I don’t want anything to do with handling some of the personalities here or making decisions on what’s right for the board. Let me know.

C

@MrSnuff‌ If there are links/banners that need to be updated please PM them to me here. I don’t log on to my email at work any longer.

X

Chris, yes that would be helpful. @Mrsnuff yes, I agree, he seems a well balanced sort, but I would like someone who has been around longer.

C

Ok, I’ll stay on in a tech support role. I’ll still make an announcement explaining the changes and putting the call out. One that I would recommend would be Justin, or many of the other ISTA members. @miamimark‌: Are you still interested in the mod position?

M

What do you mean? I’m still here… I’m always keeping an eye on things, I jut don’t post much.

C

Just wondering, nothing wrong with watching from the shadows…

C

you can see it on their profiles but I don’t know if the leaders list goes all the way down.

C

I usually decline them if they don’t mention snuff.

C

Seems that I don’t have access to the Dashboard anymore?

C

Someone will need to make me an admin so I can fix a link…

X

ok, you are admin again. I thought mods could see the dashboard. What link is broken? Also I’m ready to add Skell18 and Justin both to the mod team. Any objections?

C

Nope, no objections. One of the Mr. Snuff banners was jacked up. But it looks like it self corrected. Vanilla has been wonky lately.

X

The main Mr.Snuff banner often appears off to me, and when its off, its empty box stretches across the screen. Yean Vanilla is wonky lately. Folks are complaining about having to sign in repeatedly, and it was happening to me a lot yesterday. Usually these things self correct after Vanilla gets done tightening bolts and nuts or whatever they are doing.

S

Hello guys, thanks for having me on board

M

Welcome!

X

Welcome @skell18 and @Justin please look around and ask questions to acclimate yourselves to your new duties.

J

Hello everyone, and thank you. Regarding duties, I’m hoping people will prod me if there is anything in particular they would like me to do!

S

Chaps I have moved the thread asking about nic content of snuff into general from the library. If you think it needs to go in the advice section let me know and I will put it there. I moved it to general as he may get more replies in there and it’s quite a general question.

X

Thats fine. I reassign misplaced categories routinely. The Library is (or should be) reserved for stories, documents, videos, etc. General is for everything that doesn’t belong to a specific category.

S

@MrSnuff‌ it’s Adam mate, glad to be on board

X

Actually there hasn’t been much spam lately that I’ve seen. A few blank applications come through from time to time still.

J

@MrSnuff Thank you for the reminder - I should have introduced myself properly! Rather unimaginatively, my real name is Justin. (I was originally ‘sloth357’ but there was another member active at the time who was ‘sloth’, so when it became clear that there were relatively few axe-murderers here I reverted to my real name…) However, I do have to admit that my avatar is not a self-portrait. My cat is much better looking than I am, so I use his picture instead. You can find me on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/jeb357 and Twitter as @justinbrett or read my occasionally updated blog at http://dodgyliberal.blogspot.com

S

That doesn’t sound too bad an idea.

J

Not sure if I just did the right thing or not… When I logged on I saw a little red flag on my account options, and discovered an unprocessed application. It was quite obviously a spammer so I hit the ‘decline’ button. However, after poking around a little more (because I hadn’t discovered the Vanilla interface until now) I noticed that there was a large queue of applications in Spam Queue. Should I have transferred the application there somehow instead of simply hitting the bugger off button?

X

No, you did the right thing. I decline one or two a day, nowadays. Nothing like about 6 months-year ago when it was 40-50 a day. I forgot about the spam queue. I’ll have a look at it.

X

Gah! 83 pages of pre-rejected applicants! Thanks, Vanillla! Thanks also Justin for reminding me this was here. It never worked before. Well, I will sort through them and make sure there are no legit ones in there by accident. Should take a few days. You guys can help if you have time.

J

Done. I’ve left two, which although they are not by any means satisfactory reasons for wanting to join do look as though they might possibly be by real people.

S

I cleared about 10 pages earlier this week, all from the same person wanting Gucci handbags lol

X

New mods: Just to give you some idea of routine duties. Its not an all comprehensive list, and most of its common sense. 1) The Buy-sell-trade thread is an ongoing upkeep. Posts in that thread that are older than 60 days, please delete. If members update their own posts to indicate that their deal is complete, then delete the relevant posts. Also please redirect members to the B-S-T thread if they post b-S-T requests outside of it. When they comply, delete the original thread. This helps keep things tidy. 2) You may delete posts that violate the terms of service at your discretion, especially if they might be inflammatory. However, please do not delete them from the Change Log, until I can review them. I’m reasonably tolerant of occasional mentions of religion and politics, but its a fine line to tread. I have strong personal views on both matters as I suppose many do, but the criteria I use to delete is "does this offend me?, then it might offend someone else. Does this offend someone with other views than my own? (a harder question to answer, but I try to be objective.) very VERY seldomly I will edit or truncate a post, and then make a public note that I did so, in the cases where the poster had some valid points but got off on too many rants-opinions, flames, etc. 3) Do not tolerate trolls or incendiary posts. Do not encourage conflicts between members who may both have a valid point, and do not encourage or tolerate belligerence. You can stop members from posting but do not ban members or delete accounts. These things are rare occurrences, but when they do happen, we have traditionally brought it to the mod forum for discussion on how to deal with it. (We are very democratic in this regard.) I’m the fourth Admin here, and I’ve seen what both too much hands off and too much hands on from past Admins both have had negative consequences. We had an opening for one new mod, but I wanted two, because I want to hear more opinions an decide critical things democratically but with wisdom and justice. We’ve had a few problem members in the past which were admitted substance abusers. Since I’ve been on, I’ve been lenient with them when they can stay sober, even to the point of reinstating banned members. (They are usually forum assets sober - but turn to trolls when intoxicated). 4) Ideas: please bring forward. Csokes was the Dashboard king. I don’t understand how a lot of it works, but there are features available to us that we do not use. Some we have discussed, some not. What I do understand, I manage myself, but only because I’ve taken the duty voluntarily. For awhile I was auditing old accounts to see if they were valid/active, and then either deleting them or “deactivating” them. (Deactive members, by my own rule, were legitimate members that simply had not logged in within two years.) Deactive members are still members, and I reactivated their accounts on the rare occasion that one did return (this takes monitoring of the membership roster). Similarly, really old threads (two years?) if you come across them can be reassigned to the “Snuffhouse Archives”. We had some mistakes in the past where some content got deleted en masse and subsequently a lot of old threads don’t make any sense if read as a conversation. We have kept the threads, and deleted the blank spaces. If you come across these, and there is some good content in them, do not delete the thread, just delete the irrelavent content. Then reassign the thread to the Archives, which is locked from new posts. A lot of this is simply busywork to keep the forum efficient. But the point was that if there was indeed some good content, then it should not be deleted. 5) Other commercial enterprises: As you may know the forum is owned by Dave a.k.a. Mr.Snuff. Dave has been a member here since before he was a commercial enterprise. Alex from Gemany sold the forum to Nigel (Snuffster-now Abraxas) when he no longer had the time to devote to it. With Nigel it was similar, but he wanted to spend his time crafting Artisan snuffs, and sold it to Dave, who by that time had a commercial operation established, and was a paid sponsor. I stick to Alex’s original precedent on this: If you want to mention your commercial operation in a post (mind you, this is not just personal trades and sells, but a business) you can mention it. If you want to post a picture or a banner etc., then you need to pay for space. Since Dave owns the space I just act as a mediator. Direct them to me and we will sort it. Dave is gracious enough to allow us to decide these things, and he will chime in here from time to time when appropriate. Sadly due to the way things are politically, there is not much of this (multiple enterprises) nowadays (since once we had at least 4 snuff shops advertising here). but nonetheless, we are neutral as far as that is concerned but must be fair to the owner and benefactor of our site. That’s all for now. Just a quick (long and not thought out) indoctrination for our new moderators. But anyone with any questions about anything (forum management, moderating, administrating, ownership, commercial, debates, fights, membership squabbles, or font color-- or anything) just bring it up here and we can discuss it and choose the best route forward. P.S. sorry, we don’t much discuss snuff in this thread-its almost all business (though we do become friends), but sometimes sponsors give us a little gift, so I toast you with a pinch of Tom Buck!

X
  1. Oh yeah! I forgot to mention, one of your primary duties is approving new members. For awhile we got a lot of spam, but technical tools helped us deal with a lot of it. My basic criteria for allowing new applicants to be members is “do they mention- or seem to at least understand, what nasal snuff is” thankfully some of the automated filters help with this but generally I reject applicants that seem to have no clue (blank applications, or looking for something free (discounts, coupons, ect.) or make nonsensical or generic applications.)
S

Chaps, have you seen the post from snuffer RE taxi red I the bazaar? I was in two minds about removing it but he isn’t actually selling anything (yet) just canvassing opinion about demand, so I left it as I don’t see it as a problem.

X

Technically it should be in the BST thread, but then as you point out he’s not actually selling it. Leave it for now, delete in 60 days if its unchanged. If he sells it later, it goes in the BST thread for 60 days. I used to get Taxi by the roll from Pieter Claassen. It really is dirt cheap there. Shipping is the big cost.

S

I get my taxi from family in Cape Town, 10 tins costs about £2 or so and I always stock up whenever I go to SA, great thing about the UK is there is no tax on snuff so I could literally bring a suitcase of it back with no issues

S

I have deleted two posts from nosemboss in the introduce thread, I think he meant to put them in the what’s in your nose thread so I tidied it up a bit. Couldn’t see an option to move the post into the WIYN thread.

X

Ok, no big deal.

S

Chaps, the app in the queue says he is magicdust already but forgot his password, surely he can just reset it or get a reset emailed to him? I have searched the forums and it does seem he is who he says he is but I am suspicious that he doesn’t just use the password reset option, unless he has been deactivated for being inactive for so long @Xander‌ you know any more? I’m not approving the app as it looks like he was active in March, reset the password and email him to let know know maybe? Don’t know if I can reset the password or not. Hope the UK mods have enjoyed their bank holiday, I have been drinking and taking creme de figgy all day and had a big walk with Alfie (my dog) in the Forrest today, perfect day. Andrew, I am up in Edinburgh on the 18th -20th May if you want that Islay snus? I have a tin you can have (as promised) .

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Ok. Nobody approve him. I tried to reset his password, and Vanilla won’t let me make any changes since the email address was in use by another member. Turns out he is also “snuffmaster” and been with us almost as long as magicdust, since 2010. So no way he’s getting a third name. I nulled out the email address of snuffmaster and deactivated that account. I forced a reset of magicdust’s account. He can keep that one. Watch and see if he can log in now.

X

I don’t use facebook, so it can’t be me.

S

I don’t mind doing it.

X

There’s a chance he no longer has that email address, and neither of us helped him.

S

@MrSnuff‌ have sent you a PM buddy

S

Yes, although you would think it was still enter here in the UK lol.

S

My dog is full of tats, which means it’s spring! Lol

S

That odd logging you out issue is happening again, I think Andrew said if you click on discussions again you’re back in ok, worked for me. Is it a vanilla thing?

X

whoops, sorry about the logo. I haven’t even noticed. I’ve been waking up from winter shock lately too. I’ll sort it tomorrow.

X

Yes, I’m getting logged off too. Its been a periodic hiccup ever since we migrated to vanilla, at least for me.

X

I’ve not logged in for a few days. All looks well here, good work keeping the ship afloat, guys!

S

Yeah nothing has rocked the boat, puncture repair kit was deployed where there were niggles but nothing major.

S

Let me have a look Dave, been hell in work lately with redundancies so my mind is elsewhere currently and not been about too much.

S

Deleted the two in general and have messages him to tell him to keep trade related stuff to the trade threads.

S

Chaps, Nikolados asked me to close the thread general_desaix posted about him as he felt it went too far now. So it’s closed and move into the mod section if you want to look at it, it’s not the worst he has done but I don’t want to see a member bothered by something. I don’t know what’s up GD at the moment, I have spoken to him before about this to see if anything was wrong, but he apparently wants to liven up the place.

X

Ok good job guys. Been crazy busy this past week. My first chance to check in recently. Maybe I can catch up on some reading too. I’m likely to be sporadic throughout the summer. Shoot an email to me if something needs my immediate attention: alexian.emperor@earthlink.net

S

Looks like someone else had the same problem, however I agree with you and shall keep a close eye on him.

S

@MrSnuff‌ this is shezza we’re talking about doesn’t seem to have escalated but if it does I will take care of it.

J

Someone by the name of ‘logicalfrank’ has applied for membership. He gives as his reason ‘In order to become a better person’. With that reason I could hardly refuse, but we might need to keep an eye on him!

M

I think we’ve discussed this before but I wanted to ask again… Is there any way to prevent “new” members from starting a new thread till after a certain number of posts or time or something? Every time someone joins and immediately starts a new thread, it’s always to complain about something!!! I know other forums have this ability…

S

I have noticed this recently too, been away for a few weeks and some of the whingers threads are silly! Maybe it’s an admin thing to add a caveat to joining on starting threads, some forums have it as high as 30 posts. If it can be done what sort of number would you feel reasonable? I would say in the 10-20 bracket.

M

To me, the more the better…

J

Little bit of squabbling here… Childishness between chefdaniel and StPedro_de_Arbues‌ on this thread - http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/7765/how-can-anyone-like-f-t-morlaix-does-anyone-like-it-why - has led to chefdaniel getting upset - http://www.snuffhouse.org/discussion/9232/resignation So far I have done the following - posted a warning on the original thread and sent chefdaniel a PM telling him that he needs to be the bigger man and let it ride. He’s by no means blameless here, but @StPedro_de_Arbues‌ is being a bit of a tit (as we say in England). Does anyone who remembers StPedro from his previous incarnation feel able to drop him a line and suggest that he reins it in a bit?

C

He only posted four times in 2011 then disappeared until now.

J

That’s interesting. Hopefully, having stirred things a bit he’ll go away again, then. If he tries it again, one of us can have a quiet word…

S

I will keep an eye on things,mi backed up your post @Justin just in case it gets out of hand again. Looks like this StPedro chap is just taking the piss (as we say in England) and it shouldn’t get any further. If need me to step in anywhere let me know.

M

Anyone else think that “StPedroWETF” is a total asshole? Is it just me? I’ve always wondered if could start a “should X be banned from SH?” type thread and let the members vote by using the Agree / Disagree buttons… let the community decide…

M

Lol… even his user name bugs me!

J

@lunecat Excellent! Done with such simple elegance, too…

S

I always miss the fun!

S

I was going to close it last night , that cigshurtmylungs is really starting to annoy everyone, I really had to hold back replying to him asking if his ‘personal life experiences’ had been peer reviewed but I don’t see it is my place to wade into these things. Good job @lunecat

S

Sounds like a good idea, people are missing the review site so this could inject some life back I to it and tidy up the main forum a bit. I wouldn’t have a clue how to do it though.

S

I have added the IP to the banned list, keep an eye on the applicants and report any add ones in here,see if we can spot a pattern he uses, if, as he says, he has numerous emails. I think he forum spambot might pick up a few so keep an eye on the spam queue. I have just cleared it out so won’t (hopefully) be too much to wade through amongst the usual fake ray bans etc.

M

I was thinking maybe ShaunS was St. Pedro!

S

ShaunS appears to be in the UK, pedro et al were all US based. Let me do a bit more digging on him.

S

Our friend Shaun appears genuine and not pedro (yet). I have warned him about the name calling and language in the bulk thread and to keep it on topic. Let’s see if it escalates!

S

I have had words with cigshurtmylungs before, he was annoying everyone a while ago so I nipped it in bud before it went further, he appears to have got the message.

J

Just as I thought I’d got everyone calmed down on that silly ‘bless you’ thread, snuffysnuff decides to wade in with a pretty vicious comment. I have closed the thread and sent snuffysnuff a PM telling him he’s out of order. Hopefully that will be the last of it.

C

Just keep an eye on his IP address. Sometimes they will slip up and not use a proxy. That’s how we caught John trolling.

J

Small problem… Remember the ‘Bless you’ thread that seemed to blow up ( http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/8550/this-will-probably-sound-mean-but ) last week? It had just calmed down when snuffysnuff turned up and attempted throw petrol on the embers. I closed it and sent him the following PM:

Justin August 11 Your most recent intervention on the ‘bless you’ thread that I have just closed was uncalled for. Please think twice before you post that kind of thing again.

This reply arrived this morning:

SnuffySnuffSnuffySnuff 11:02AM (Today) I don’t think it was uncalled for. He gets on my tits. He was the twat who posted POLITICAL XENOPHOBIC cuntery. Not allowed on this forum and my response to him was justified. Tell him not to post awful politics and I’ll happily ignore him.

I went back and had a look at the post to see if I had overreacted, and decided that I hadn’t, given the complaints that followed his post. I have replied as follows:

Justin 4:03PM (Today) Clearly I need to be more direct. I don’t have a problem with the fact that you don’t like his politics. I do have a problem with the way in which you intervened. Go and look at the thread again - in particular at the posts that turned up immediately after yours. They seem to think that you dropped in to start a fight. I also think that you dropped in to start a fight. Please don’t do it again, or you will be banned.

I hope that’s OK (and that he has the sense to keep his mouth shut for a while…) Justin

S

Let me know if you need any backup, include me in the next message if you want,of he hears it twice he may calm down. I see his point, however they way he went about it is all wrong.

J

@Skell18 Thanks. I will keep you in the loop… And yes, I have some sympathy too - it’s the tone (or lack of it) that bothers me!

M

I REALLY screwed up by accepting that member. I didn’t notice his user name. Someone already called him a “nazi scum” on his thread. I think we should just delete his account now, I don’t think there’s ANY chance this will go well. Any thoughts? Sorry guys!

M

I’m sure he specifically chose that username with the sole intention of causing problems and spewing his disgusting views.

C

He’s Russian. I’ve changed his user to “GenericUsername” to expunge any mention of his ethnocentric garbage. Edit: Eh, fuck it. I gave him a nice… positive user name.

S

I saw it this morning and did a double take at the name, I didn’t approve or reject it as I lost my signal on the train, then I was on the underground and once I got into work, plain forgot about it. I would have rejected it purely on the username (pesky signal!) and I have not long finished work/trying not to go mad with work, I always miss the fun!

S

Love the username change @cstokes4‌

S

He has been pissing me off for a while now so I wouldn’t mind seeing the back of him tbh. I have held back speaking to him due in part to having been a bit drunk when he has really annoyed me, so held off. I will jump in if needed.

J

@lunecat I agree - I don’t think he actively picks fights, but he lacks the social skills to see the consequences of his posts. Once this has been pointed out to him a couple of times we don’t have many options left. Yellow card seems about right. Happy to help if needed.

S

Chaps, our friend cigshurtmylungs is at it again in the Does your dog like the smell of snuff, thread. Another tome on why we are all wrong, again! No one has risen to it yet, so I’m keeping an eye on it.

M

I just clicked on “cigsh…'s” username and I saw an exchange with “saucyJack” but nothing else. I used to see the pm’s right in the thread that they written on… not any more. I think I’m missing something. IMHO the “cigs” guy needs to go… maybe not yet but soon.

M

Wow… interesting reading!! He starts to apologize a little and admit he’s not always easy to get along with… then he goes back to insults… for no reason… Narcissistic? Bi-Polar? I wish I knew more about psychology…

M

On another subject… there’s another tobacco grower / snuff maker in the pending applications… what do you guys think about chefdaniel selling his snuff here? I wouldn’t like it one bit if I was @mrsnuff

S

I have just warned chef about that this morning. He keeps opening up new threads hawking one thing or another. It doesn’t bother me if he keeps it in the trade thread as he is a one man band and a decent guy, he just wants people to try his snuff from what I can gather and he does contribute to the forum overall. Hopefully now he will keep it in the trade thread, but it isn’t his first warning over that.

S

Just seen the application. We can approve him and just remind him we aren’t a shop so if he is here to hawk his stuff, be warned. Or, he appears to just be an enthusiast who wants more info, which I have no problem with, he could be a valuable member if he knows about Rapé snuffs etc.

S

@lunecat‌ well, he likes to talk doesn’t he! He doesn’t seem to have the ability to rationalise or accept that someone may have a different opinion than him. I used to have a guy on my team exactly like him, amazing at his job, but acted like a teenager and always argued if you didn’t share his view, we found out he was mildly autistic. As I said before, my issue with him now is he will drive people away, also his ‘medical’ views are dangerous as he is often wrong, a doctor he ain’t!

C

I think “chefdaniel” needs to lay off the theads in the bazaar. He should have a single post in the b/s/t thread instead of having 12+ theads in that section. I think its getting a bit excessive, just my .02

J

I think that’s about right. How about the last bit reading instead “…but we are concerned about unsponsored advertisement on the forum, given that other parties pay for banner advertisements.”

C

The difference is that Mr. Snuff sells Johnny and Nigel’s product. I’ll be the bad guy…

C

I’ve pm’ed him.

S

I have warned him about this few times, most recently last week. He replied saying he won’t do it again and will keep it to the trade thread (as I asked him to). Looks like he ignored that! If he wants to keep doing it he can pay as far as I’m concerned, he has had enough warnings about it.

C

Usually pay cash. I would forward his inquiries to Dave, since he’s the owner.

S

He has only just started it?

S

With an email like that looks like a commercial venture to me!

J

@Skell18 If I was running a business I wouldn’t do it with a gmail address - makes you look like a crook instantly!

S

Good call on cigs, I was about to ban him anyway. St Pedro burned his bridge, I banned his IP and it is staying that way.

J

Agreed - good call on cigs. As to St.Pedro, I also agree with @Skell18 - if he had been serious about playing nicely he would not have re-joined under other names and carried on doing the same thing… @lunecat - I don’t think you’re being officious at all!

C

Chef Daniel PM’d me asking that the thread about artisan snuffs be closed. I disagree since I find it well within norm for people to complain about one brand or another; we can’t be expected to stifle out every thread that voices the disdain for a particular brand… I think the thread should only be closed if the attacks become personal. My .02

S

@cstokes4‌ I agree, nothing in it has caused me any concern yet. I’m not one for closing threads simply because someone doesn’t like X snuff. Not everyone likes what others do, it’s how we find new things. I have had my eye on that thread though.

S

Chaps, it must be that time of the month for Snuffysnuff, he is off on one again.

S

Chaps, I’m off on holiday later today so won’t be around much. If I can get wifi somewhere I will check in. So see you all in two weeks.

J

I think he’s in a different league to cigs or st.pedro - he seems to be a bit of a plonker at times as opposed to being just plain anti-social. I got the impression a while ago that he was not very happy in real-life terms, but I haven’t had many dealings with him recently. If anyone else thinks it’s a good idea, since I haven’t had any difficulty with him in the past I could always get in touch and politely request that he keeps his head down for a while. His response to that might give us a better steer as to what to do next.

J

Morning all. Current applicants - there are a couple of folks in the application queue that I am not really certain about. They have got past the spam filter, but the requests still look far too generic to me. Is there any way of contacting them via the forum rather than giving my own e-mail address to potential spammers?

C

its in the panel section of the dashboard, you can upload it here and I’ll patch it in

C

It needs to be uploaded here; you can use the “Attach a file” function on the bottom left.

C

Hi Andrew, You will probably want to email him back with what I have attached. If he wants me to put that up that’s ok but it is pretty cramped. Our dimension specs are 180x130 pixels so the button will need to be as simple as possible.

C

Dave, Are there any banners that need to come off?

C

@lunecat: I’ve PM’d him.

C

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M

I’ve been dying to try some 6 photo but I haven’t as of yet. Whatever is the finest grind and the strongest nic would be my choice.

S

Kailash and Anarkali are my favs.

J

That’s a kind gesture. Super Kailash, I would say.

S

Is there a problem with iOS compatibility or a bug at the moment? I can’t delete comments when I’m using my iPad, I’m trying to clean up the trade thread but I whenever I click ok to delete a comment it keeps telling me there was an error on the page and it reloads. Anyone else had the same problem?

C

Andrew, I’ve given you admin access, all of the banners are in the “Pockets” area. Try to familiarize yourself with it. The banner size limits are 180 pixels wide, keep that in mind. I have resized the SWS banner.

S

Can someone readd peterclasson to the ISTA? I have had a mooch and I can’t do it.

C

Andrew, sorry I fucked up and wrote over it. It has to be somewhere here on the board; I will try to find it.

S

RE uncle squinty, he has been having issues with his login,moor whatever reason he can’t access the site with it. I reset it and logged in with it and it worked ok so we think it is something his end with his translation software. I mooted with him reapplying and them deleting the old account then changing his new username to the old one so he can hopefully reuse the site. Sound ok to everyone?

S

I have emailed him to tell him to submit a new app and we will approve it, then do the above. Keep em peeled chaps, or leave it for me and I will sort it all when he sends it.

C

For some reason the ads are fucking up the forum layout. I’m tinkering with it, I’ll try to get it worked out today.

C

Fixed. There was some repetitive code in the sponsors pocket.

J

Golly. That’s a very generous offer! Thank you for arranging it.

S

I’m just deciding which on I want, it’s like Sophie’s choice!

M

Can anyone tell me what’s the most dry, fine a high nic 6 photo?

S

LA snuff natural is quite dry iirc or cheeta

S

Chaps, could one of you delete the message fredh wrote on my wall? For some reason I can’t delete it!

J

Done it

That’s interesting, because so have I… (Marked it as spam and then deleted it) I wonder what the result will be…

S

Cheers guys

S

That means mine shouldn’t be far behind! On way home now, it’s like Christmas!

M

I can’t wait to get mine… I’m on day 3 of no cigs. My scotch supply is pretty good but I’m almost out of D. White and I don’r really have anything similar…

S

It arrived! A massive paint tin of kailash! Thank you Vikas and Dave!

M

I’m a little hesitant about the 2 applications in the queue… They’re both obviously the same applicant, 2 different email addresses. Why apply twice? Any thoughts?

M

I’m sure you’re right. I think the reason “snuff is my life” also scared me a little…

M

I would think that would be a question for @mrsnuff

S

Chaps, fredh keeps pestering me due to the spam ratings he has (they are from the stuff he posted on my profile that were deleted). I found one in the spam filter (now I have his comment back on my profile) but I can’t remove the other one. I am at the point of telling him to just accept it as, despite telling him not to post to my wall but to PM me he did and it was removed. Before I do (and he crys again) can anyone remove the spam from his rating? If not I will tell him. Also I would be wary of the free tobacco guy,meh can post in the trade thread if he wants to give it away but I am just skeptical it’s a con and once he has members details it won’t be good.

M

Cool thanks Dave. I quit smoking a few weeks ago so I’m back to snuffing full time. I still have lots of snuff from before so I’ll manage for a while.

M

It looks like I can’t get my favorite scotches any more… what’s up with that?

M

Bruton / 3 Thistle / Rooster and Square were always my tops snuffs. I still have some Rooster and Square but I’m out of the others. Any ideas where I can order some large tins?

M

Last night i got my package from India, my Cheeta from Vikas. I hate to say this but it was “only” 150 grams. I know how greedy that sounds! 150 grams is certainly a generous gift but I am disappointed. More than anything else I was so looking forward to having a 500 gm container of snuff! Just to posses it, hold it… I still can’t really conceive how big it actually is. Oh well. I love the cheeta and it was a perfect choice so thanks for the recommendations from you guys!

M

No worries Dave. 150 gms is still a lot of snuff, for me. As soon as you get some of the larger size scotches I’ll order and pay full price. Besides that I need a medicated to replace my JH no 99. Maybe I’ll try one of the Six photo “6’s”

J

Do we have any thoughts on this - http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/9847/new-here-just-saying-hi ? I have replied to him in the thread, which might or might not have been sensible, but I wonder whether we ought to be doing anything…

M

Yikes! I’m not sure what to suggest either. I think we can probably ban him just because he’s under 18, if for no other reason. I think he’s gonna be annoying… at least.

M

I know I’ve said this before… I’m always skeptical of anyone that starts a new thread as their very first post. There’s gotta be a way to prevent that.

S

Right decision, I just read the thread and was in a red mist scenario after 3 lines! Bad grammer and punctuation really annoys me (I do admit I’m no saint).

M

Lol… I thought it was just me! Those long rambling posts with no punctuation make me crazy. I literately can’t read them… I figured it that was the way “kids” wrote these days.

J

Always nice to find people who are more reactionary than me

C

Andrew, I’ve had a member tip me off about a situation and upon some investigating I have found that you have 2 accounts here. While the silly point system on the board is just for fun, a moderator manipulating it by using another account to bump up their own points is pretty bush league. I’ll leave it up to you to explain but as far as I’m concerned if a regular member were doing this it would earn a ban.

J

Please accept my resignation as a Moderator.

I don’t know the background to this, but since it has been raised in this thread, if I get any say in the matter then I would not be in favour of accepting Andrew’s resignation. He has done a huge amount for the forum, and I think everyone should be allowed at least one error of judgement.

S

Can I just ask why you did it Andrew? What is the benefit of having the most points or most likes etc? Why did you want the most? I agree that Andrew has done a lot and is a good mod, personally I don’t think you should resign but I will respect your wishes if that is what you want.

M

I also think resigning is too extreme. I also don’t understand the reason for wanting to accumulate points…

S

Chaps,I have announced the whats in your cart/wish list thread after a number of requests to do so. I can see it complimenting the mailbox thread and as a way of maybe getting people talking about various snuffs again and offering insight on trying a snuff. Hopefully people will use it over starting a million new threads asking for opinions,new can keep it nice and tidy and it’s easier to moderate for us. If anyone disagrees let me know or we can out it to a vote.

M

I know the old SH owner, Alex, had told that us that too many “sticky’s” or announcements was not good… I really don’t remember why!! I wish there was a proper review site… I really don’t like this whole “Let me start a whole new thread every time I try a new snuff” mentality… UGH!

S

I agree RE too many stickys, which is why I think this one will be ok as I have noticed a lot of, I’m thinking of buying, threads, which drives me up the wall!

C

I know the old SH owner, Alex, had told that us that too many “sticky’s” or announcements was not good… I really don’t remember why!! I wish there was a proper review site… I really don’t like this whole “Let me start a whole new thread every time I try a new snuff” mentality… UGH!

I think it was just Alex’s personal preference. Back in the day the forum didn’t have many categories so everything showed up in one screen.

S

Hey guys: Pat here. I am the IT/Graphics guy with Dave. As you know we are making up snuffhouse apparel etc. I was wondering if you could give me the email address for the guy who does the snuffhouse graphics. Any suggestions you guys have for designs, please let me know. My email is pat at mrsnuff.com. Many thanks, Pat

J

What do we feel about the person in the applicant queue who has written in (I think) Dutch? Do we have an English-only policy?

S

Have you run it through translate? If it meets the criteria he should be ok may be worth emailing him to see if English would be an issue. In my experience every ditch person I have ever met speaks perfect English and has no issues with written English either.

S

He is Belgian, he wants more info on gletcherpriese and snuff in general (helps being able to speak Afrikaans, very similar to Dutch and Flemish).

S

So he is ok as far as I know, appears to want to know where to buy in Belgium too but don’t quote me on it.

J

I’d guessed that was what he wanted - I’ll click him through and we’ll see what happens.

C

@Snuffles: I have all of the graphics on my home PC, I can email them to you over the weekend. The member that made them is @Dogwalla

C

So what do you all want to do with Andrew? He hasn’t logged in since the 6th?

M

I’m kinda surprised he just vanished! Personally I think he should stay on as a Mod if he wishes. Other opinions? Maybe someone should email him?

S

Like I said before, I don’t think he should step down as a mod, it’s still showing him as a admin so that can go I suppose. All I want is an explanation as to why he did it, put it out there,map polonaise and move on. If he wants to stay then water under the bridge as far as I’m concerned. Someone should email him, I don’t mind doing it if everyone is ok with it?

M

Ok by me.

J

Likewise.

S

No problem, will do it when I get home, some bastard who needs a shower has been reading over my shoulder since I got on this train, apparently not cleaver enough to get the message when I wrote a note on my iPad saying “stop looking over my shoulder, F off!”

S

Also the chap in the queue awaiting approval, what does everyone think? No mention of snuff so I would normally knock it back but, they love their vitamin N.

S

Chaps, I rejected an app from snuffthailand that was in the queue, he is pimping his online store (which doesn’t sell snuff). He has just joined a snus website I am a member of and has posted in almost every thread about his webstore etc. He is only interested in snus from the looks of it, so keep an eye out on future applicants!

M

I saw that app… I’m glad I left it alone. I’ll keep an eye out!

J

@Skell18 Is that the same person who is in the application queue saying he isn’t an online store…?

S

@Justin I suspect so, why mention it if you’re not? Can you check the IP? I’m not on a computer atm, it’s surprising hard on an iPad to check. I can get the snuffinthailand IP from a mod over at snuson to check if we need to.

J

Can’t see the IP address, I’m afraid - doesn’t seem to show up on applicant screen.

M

OMG!!! An application in the queue: DolcettDeathMaster (georgendeziel@gmail.com) 2:26PM I have the deepest fascination for snuff and sex. I think the combination of the two is the most erotice. Therre is nothing like seeing a naked female hanging at the end of a rope.

S

Bloody hell! i just showed my wife and her face was a picture!! May be one for the no pile! Also, Roderick has messaged me RE his login issues @cstokes4 is there an issue? Or is it that thing where if you try again you’re back in so its a vanilla problem? He keeps getting offed out randomly and then his password is wrong? Should I reset it for him then ask him to change it? Or is there an issue with vanilla?

C

I will send him a manual reset. That’s the second snuff app I’ve seen. There’s some looney tunes out there.

C

I denied that app by the way. If you google his email it led right to a legit snuff site where people are looking for human meat to eat. Needless to say, I didn’t open that at work :-&

J

Just had a request from snuffer to delete his account. Told him I’d pass on the request if he really wanted me to, but would he mind telling me why. Awaiting response.

S

Hasn’t he done that before? Last time was because he had had one too many, just see what he says.

S

Chaps, app in the queue, looks innocent enough but I just rejected a blank app from the same person, this time the email address had the addition of a number 1 to it, I’m suspicious.

M

I googled the email address, it leads me to an online cigar retailer https://www.bestcigarprices.com/about-us/ I don’t know if it means anything or not… the 2 things might not be related…

S

We could approve it and keep any eye on him, any store pimping and he will get a stern talking to!

C

I’ll deactivate his account but we don’t delete accounts because it causes voids in discussion threads.

S

Chaps, have you seen the thread about the search function? A few members are askin if it can be made easier to search for things. Can we add an advanced search option like on most other forums, so that they can search a specific section of the site?

M

I was very tempted to tell that member (with 14 comments total at the time) that I would send his request to the Snuffhouse IT department. Along with MY request that members can’t start a new thread until they have 50 or 100 comments under their belt… LOL! Sorry, I HATE “whiner” threads! I won’t vent in the “open” forum tho…

S

I understand where you are coming from, I was tempted myself, but as you saw, I kept a cool head. I do agree RE starting new threads and post count, on snuson you can’t start a thread until you have about 30 posts or so. That being said, I do think it would be a good idea. I’m just waiting for the rest to chime in now, and the PMs to start! Lol

M

It’s definitely a good idea, no question. It was also many years ago when it was suggested… and all the other times it was suggested. I have no clue how to do something like that…

C

L-)

J

I’ve just approved two new people. One seems entirely straightforward, the other is as follows:

crabbmamma;12345 (frankiemprice@hotmail.com) 11:44AM see if I can get my bruton snuff cheaper

I’m assuming he’s read the bit in bold about not being an online store, given that he managed to write an actual reason in his application, but I thought I’d flag him just in case…

J

…and having gone through the spam, I was a little sad to bin the person in the picture below!

S

We get loads of those, I bin them.

C

Just tossed one that was advertising passports and DL for sale.

S

Chaps, fat bobber in the app queue, I am skeptical to approve as it looks like one of ‘those’ snuff seekers rather than tobacco snuff. Am I being too judgmental or do we all agree he is looking for that other snuff?

M

I saw that app too and thought it was weird… you think he means snuff “erotica” or whatever it’s referred to?

S

Yeah, have seen a few of those apps before. Just something about it doesn’t sit right.

S

What is the timeframe for the switchover of the forum? Need us to do anything? If I can help in any way, hen I will.

C

Not really sure at the moment. Just trying to get everyone ready for when it happens. Who the fuck would pay $1,200 a month for a forum?

S

That’s just crazy money! It’s a piss take really, why the hell is it so expensive?

S

$14,400.00 a year!! Two words, fuck off!

C

It is nutty, especially for something as niche and homegrown as this.

M

I’m getting absolutely nothing at “snuffhouse.com” I’m using chrome…

M

I don’t think I have “good” email addresses for anyone here… can you guys please email me me so I can save your addresses? miamimark@juno.com. I’m a little nervous I’m gonna get cut off from everyone. Thanks!

S

Email sent @miamimark mine is adam_skelland@hotmail.com if anyone hears anything and I’m not around, just email me to let me know what is going on etc.

J

Likewise - I am justin.brett@yahoo.co.uk

M

Thanks guys… Got em and saved them. I don’t know what’s going on I still get “this webpage not available” I even tried IE and nothing! I’m very heavily invested in Chrome (and android) I’m not switching browsers any time soon. Just in case I’m totally losing my mind… can someone please post a clickable link? Thanks Mark

M

I have no idea what’s going on… I found the new website on my phone… created a new account… got a confirmation email… clicked the link in the email but what I see is… basically nothing…

M

Lol… all this time I was reading the thread about the new version of Mr Snuff… I thought it was the new version of Snuffhouse (.com) that everyone was talking about… I’ve been driving myself crazy trying to figure out what everyone else was seeing what I couldn’t see. I guess I gotta work on my reading comprehension…

S

I can’t find the new forum

S

Hang on, think I found it,mdeopped the www, just says board unavailable and I can’t register.

C

It was working over the weekend for me but now it’s not.

M

I’m logged in… I’m on the site but I don’t see any changes no matter what I click on… it looks very similar to the screen shot I posted above.

C

heres what it looks like for me

C

on here? cstokes4

C

My user/login are the same

M

That’s basically the same thing I see but with this message: " Please delete, move or rename the install directory before you use your board. If this directory is still present, only the Administration Control Panel (ACP) will be accessible"

M

I’ve clicked every clickable link (many times) on that page, nothing happens.

S

Still can’t register,I’m can get the login page up but that’s as far as I can go.

M

Now I’m able to click around and see things… no posts but I can see who’s a member and some other things.

M

It seems like, at the moment, every category needs to be approved by a moderator before it’s published… I assume that’s gonna change.

C

It’s cstokes4, just registered.

J

I’m now there too - same email and username as here.

C

Hi @MrSnuff It will be easier if Pat can rip an xml file of sh.org and load it into sh.com That will port everything over. Edit: That will need to be done on the server side, which I don’t (and probably shouldn’t) have access to.

S

I’m registered, same username and email as here.

J

I have a few relatively light days at work coming up. If I can be of any help will you let me know (message to justin.brett@yahoo.co.uk would probably be the best way). Can’t do code - can do copying and pasting, editing etc.

S

@MrSnuff Dave, a thread has been started again about people’s card details being stolen after shopping on Mr Snuff. I’m keeping an eye on the thread but if you want it closed just say.

M

Hi… anyone else out there?? I don’t see any new applications… do I have the right access? 

S

Hello all!

J

Greetings.

Just back from a week away. Glad it all seems to have worked…

S

Just got back from some me time, seems to be running ok here. Roderick has mentioned that the search facility isn’t working @MrSnuff Dave is it just a teething thing or can you get it added/fixed etc?

J

Just accepted three new members but left one in the queue. His reason given is ‘free snuff’ - which makes me uneasy. Thoughts?

M

All of a sudden, 21 apps in the queue… some actually mention snuff but they’re very suspicious… I personally think the “Free snuff” thread is causing our problems. Regardless of the reason, I give up, I’m not approving ANYONE.

M

I remember a few years back, Roderick starting getting 1000’s of requests for samples from Hungary or some place like that. Apparently there are forums dedicated to sharing information on free samples of any kind. The “members” don’t contribute anything, they just want ANYTHING that’s free so they can try to sell it. I’m sure it’s not too tough to create some kind of program that that searches the internet for any kind of giveaway. Anyway, I’m not approving anything now. 

C

I’m leaving them.  

M

Did you notice, Mr Snuff’s comments say “unknown” 

C

They are growing by the minute.  How are we supposed to sort these?  Some are only applying to get something free and either won’t contribute or will spam the board for free shit.  

M

I know… the sad thing is some of them look legit. It’s not like the “robotic” ones from before. They almost all mention snuff. 

C

Its growing by the minute.  26,38,42…

M

Well… I’ve given up for the time being… hopefully some one can do something. 

C

I declined the apps that mentioned dip.  Approved the others…

C

Approved 40, now there is 16 more…

This is going to get out of hand very fast.  

M

I just got reply from Dave, he sent out an email blast to all his customers. He feels that they’re probably legit. 

S

I have declined about 40 but approved 50 that actually mentioned snuff, the hobby, various kinds and seemed legit, all the ones that said free or for free stuff, dip etc, got canned. There were a few old members in there too.

S

Right, I am spotting a trend, some apps appear legit,mother harp on about the love of snuff etc, but they all also love pipe tobacco and the hobby of etc etc, seem a few and they look like a copy and paste job. Keep em peeled guys.

J

They just keep coming. Dave’s mailshot must be the reason. I am working on the principle of accepting any that pass for human (especially if forum name and e-mail address match or are similar) on the grounds that banning them later is always an option…

S

Ok lots of people have picked up different bugs, any accented letters don’t post, so umlauts etc. PMs aren’t getting through either with some people. Also Jari_T appears to have gone off the rails, I have deleted about 6 threads he started which were just spam and a host of comments saying how shit it is here and how much he hates it. Given how early they were posted this morning, I’m thinking they may have been related to having an energetic drink fuelled night. I have messaged him about it so see what he comes back with. He also seems to know what he is talking about RE some of this issues with the forum, @MrSnuff can you get him involved with fixing the problems or listen to what he has to say?

M

Hi guys: I have now engaged a new coder to try and get this sorted out once and for all.

I have created a snag list on Google Keep. You can see it here: https://keep.google.com/?pli=1#LIST/1441201861350.445141099

If that doesn’t work I will have to add you by email, so let me know.

The only thing I would caution is that either the fixes/wishlist items are obviously needed, or if not then the consensus as far as we can get one, is that they would be nice to have. What we don’t want is picky little changes that someone requests but it turns out nobody else really wants or needs. Waste of time and money.

Hopefully we will get this fixed, make everybody happy again and make your guys lives a little easier.

BTW, as always, I am VERY grateful for you guys doing this. I hope the members realize that without your efforts snuffhouse would cease to exist.

Dave

J

Dave - can’t see anything when I follow the link. It just seems to take me to the beginning screen for Google Keep. My email address for Google login (if that’s what you need) is justin.brett@yahoo.co.uk

S

The link should work now. We have added all your email addresses as shown on snuffhouse.

Thanks

Pat

J

Pat,

I’m putting this here as well as in the ‘Appearance’ thread just in case.

May I suggest you look at this thread - http://snuffhouse.com/discussion/10478/vanilla-plug-ins-that-would-restore-forum-functionality#latest - and make contact with Mark?

M

Justin, thank you for getting me in contact with Pat.  And Pat, thanks for getting me the access I needed to add some functionality to the message board.  I appreciate you guys trusting me to help out.  I got in there today, and I’ve made the following additions to the message board:

1.  A Simple “Like” System is in place, where any member can “like” any post (except their own), and the amount of likes is displayed by every post, and the total likes in a discussion are displayed by every discussion.  A more complex reaction/badge plug-in exists, but it does not work with this newer version of Vanilla. 

2.  An easy-to-use Image Uploading button is now available when members are posting.  They click the button, browse for the image, and it puts it right in their post.  I added a plug-in that is supposed to shrink any overly-large images to 600 or 700 px wide.  I may have to tweak that, as I haven’t had a chance to test it.

3.  I added the abilty for members to add Signature content that appears at the bottom of each of their posts.  The same plug-in allows members to opt-out of seeing other members signatures if signatures bother them.  They can also choose to not see them when on a mobile device, or they can choose for images to be stripped out of signatures.  Each member gets to customize their exposure to signatures on the board.

4.  I added a plug-in that allows for Extended Profile information to be gathered.  Currently it has a space for (1) First Name, (2) Location, and (3) Website.  They are currently set as optional, and are not required upon registering on the board.  But, that plug-in can be customized to gather required information at the time of registration as well.

5.  There is now a Search Box in the left-hand sidebar underneath the MrSnuff banner.  It is a custom Google search that works well at searching the entire Snuffhouse message board.  I’m going to look into switching out this Google search for the search box at the top of the page that doesn’t work.  Or if I fail in that, I’m going to get rid of that malfunctioning search box altogether.

6.  There was a row of editing buttons at the top of the posting window that were duplications, and were grayed-out and didn’t work.  I’ve made those disappear, so that only the long row of editing buttons that work are showing and it looks a little cleaner.

I posted about these changes publicly in the Members Only Category, explaining the changes and (when appropriate) how to to use the new functionality on the message board.  I’ve also thanked the moderators and Pat publicly for helping make all this happen. 

I’ve enjoyed working on this thus far, and please give me any feed back you have about it.  I feel good helping out, and I want to do what you guys want me to do, if that makes sense.

Thanks,

Mark

M

I just added bulk-editing of users.  Not something you’ll use a lot.  But, its nice to have if you have a lot of spammers to clear out.  And it was easy to add.  You’ll see it at the Users link in the Dashboard.

I’m going to work on the posts getting truncated (cut-off) as soon as there is a foreign letter or character in the post.  I eliminated one possible cause, and I think I may have a solution.  I’ll see where it goes, and work on that this weekend.

I’ve heard private messaging doesn’t work for everyone.  It works great for me, so I haven’t experienced the problems.  The message board is currently using an optional private messaging application that allows members to private message multiple members at once.  If that application is having trouble, we could un-plug it and use the default private messaging.  The default private messaging does not allow multiple people to receive a message, but it is built into Vanilla and is probably very stable and problem-free.  I think switching the private messaging would eliminate all the private message that people have in the current application though.  So, I wasn’t sure what direction you guys wanted to go on that.

Here are a couple of things I could do, if you guys think it would be useful:

Set it up so new members could register using Facebook or Twitter.  Its a really weird process getting it set up, but I did it a couple of weeks ago on another board and it would only take me about 10 minutes to do it.  Even though they are registering with Facebook or Twitter, the Moderators would still approve them as with any other new members.  It just provides them an easy way to sign on every time they come to Snuffhouse.com.  So, let me know if this would be a nice feature to add.

There is a plug-in that puts each member’s “Role” or “Title” next to their username in their posts.  It is sort of nice, because its clear when a moderator or adminstrator is posting, without them having to say, “I’m a moderator.”  And, if in the future you guys pursue rewarding long-time members with a special title to designate their senior status on the message board, that honor you’ve bestowed upon them would be right by their name everytime they post.  Let me know if you’d like me to add this.  I already have it in place, I just haven’t turned it on.

There is a polls plug-in that I also have in place, but haven’t turned on.  It allows polls to be inserted into discussions, and I believe it is permissions-friendly.  So, you could limit the adding of polls to a specific group of people, or one person…or whatever else you wanted to do.  Let me know if this would be useful.

And finally, there is a bulk-invite plug-in that I added, but have not turned on.  It would allow a moderator or admin to send out a bulk-email to an email list, inviting them to join the forum.  It is a pretty cool plug-in if you have a database of Mr. Snuff customers you wanted to invite to the board.  Let me know if you want this turned on.

Any other functionality that we need to put in place?  If you have an idea, I can research whether there is a stable plug-in that accomplishes it.  Just let me know.

Mark

J

Mark,

HUGE THANKS!

That is all.

M

Happy to do it.  I’ve had to work my way through it before.  So its not difficult.  Just a little time-consuming.

:slight_smile:

Mark

M

I went ahead and added titles next to the member’s names in their posts.  I think this is useful now (in seeing who a moderator is), and could be really useful later if you give long-time members some sort of honorary title or designation as long time contributors.  Or anything along those lines.  For instance, snuff-makers who frequent our forum, could be given a title of “Snuff-Maker.”  Or not.  But, the option is there.

I added a plug-in that allows additional menu items to be put along the top of the page.  And as an example, I put a “Mr. Snuff” link in that top row of links…because, it seemed appropriate.  Other links could be added.

I added pagination-links on the Discussions view.  So, if someone uses the Discussions view a lot (like me), discussions that are multi-page now have pagination-links over on the right allowing for a quick jump to the last page of the discussion.  If you go to the Discussions view, you’ll see what I mean. 

STUFF I HAVEN’T DONE:

The Discussion Poll plug-in is uploaded, but I have not turned it on or even tested to see how it works.  But, it is an option if there is ever a use.

The Bulk Invite plug-in is uploaded, but again I have not turned it on or even tested it.  I can see from a business standpoint how this might be useful at some point.

Facebook and Twitter registration has not been set up.  I know how to do it, but I don’t know if it is something you want to provide to new members.  I’ve used it, and people tend to like it.

And for now, I’m done with plug-ins unless there is additional functionality we’re missing.

STUFF I’M STILL LOOKING INTO:

Post cut off by letters with accents, and anything but very standard punctuation.

Private messages not working for some members.

Am I missing anything that you guys can think of?

Mark

S

Cheers mate, much, much appreciated!

M

Thanks, @Skell18.

I’ve added a Members page that the Members can view.  The link for it is in the top-bar menu, on the right end.  It is not the prettiest formating I’ve ever seen, but its the only paginated members-list I could find that worked.  With 3000+ members, it needs to be paginated.

On the moderator side, we’re more likely to just go look at or search the Users-list in the Dashboard.  But, I think members usually enjoy having a members list to sort and browse through.  They can order it to see who’s started the most discussions, who’s made the most comments, and when was the last time one of their buddies visited the board.

The date “November -1” in the “last visit” column is a date that the database assigned to everyone who has never visited the new board.  FYI.

Mark 

M

Anyone know what this is comment from “Snuffbox” is about? 

@snufferman I’ll be leaving the forums shortly because I am being censored so if you need to keep the pics I would suggest downloading them now! I’ll probably start my own snuff blog and I’ll mention some of the misconduct on this site that led to me having to do that.

M

@skell18??

Did you delete the thread mentioned in this new thread?

S

I was deleting a lot out of the trade thread and tidying up the bazaar area in general, moving things about. I was going to ask him to post the thread in the correct section but lost my signal as I was on a train then went underground. Genuinely didn’t mean to piss anyone off @miamimark

M

Ah… that makes sense. Of course the conspiracy theorists (well, just 1!) jumped on the opportunity to blame Dave of censorship.

S

I’m glad to hear that the kerfuffle was just underground train sabotage.  Good catch Skell18

M

Maybe we should restore the discussion, and stick it in the right category? Just to sort of end the debate? Mark

S

All fine with me, nothing wrong with the discussion that I could see so restoring it is a simple enough task. We have been conspiracy theorist free for a while, I have missed them lol.

M

Oh my goodness, Snuffbox is in one seriously grumpy mood.  LOL.

Do any of you know him as more than just a screen name?  I mean, are any of you familiar with him?

Mark

S

He isn’t the first, and he won’t be the last. I have backed up what you said in the thread and closed it. If he wants to direct any vitriol at anyone he can send it my way. He needs to grow up.

J

Someone just popped up on the applicant list with the message “I want to be cool”.

I rejected him.

S

I do like the comedy ones!

M

Not everyone can be as cool as us.  Its a burden being this cool.  :-)

Mark

M

Hey guys…I haven’t checked in with you for a while. 

How is everything going? Any thoughts, queries, questions, suggestions?

Dave

S

Hey guys, sorry I have been away for a while, ended up breaking my ankle 2 months ago and have been in hospital and pretty much immobile and not really all there. I’m more human now so I will be back on the boards.

J

That was bad luck - hope you’re properly on the mend.

S

I’m just down the ligament damage now,mthsts taking its sweet time to heal, bone is all good! Just annoying not being able to walk properly, last time I ever run for a train lol

M

LOL… I declined this app!

disMEMBERmi  (dismemberedream@gmail.com) 11:49AM

to talk to interested persons about my sexual fantasies!

M

haha…wrong snuff

S

The nutters are back! Not seen one of those apps for a while hahaha

S

Hi guys

I was thinking of running a contest to create a new snuff. The basic idea is- you start with a plain snuff for everyone and then you get to dress it up to your nose, name it and submit as a new flavor. We could have an appropriate prize for the winner(s). I am wondering if there is any merit to this idea.

That got me to thinking about how this would actually work. Maybe an essential oils kit with a bunch of essences and flavors we could put together along with a plain snuff. Everybody starts with the same thing and see or rather smell and taste what happens. 

Am I all wet or could this work? What kind of interest do you think we would get?

Just throwing it out there

Best

Pat

M

A few years ago, I had suggested a Toque “Mix” contest… with Roderick being the Judge and the prize being  the winning mix made in a limited production run and named after the member who “formulated” it. 

I thought it was a cool idea but no one seemed interested… 

I’m not sure how the logistics would all work out with your idea, @snuffles

 

S

Hi miamimark 

Thanks for the quick reply. I like your idea a lot. We might want to consider Wilsons of Sharrow for this as well. 

I am sure whoever is chosen(we can do this more than once) will provide a nice prize. I am also sure mrsnuff will provide a discount coupon to help with purchasing whatever flavors are needed by each participant. We could also ship an empty tin with a label to identify the participants. 

Do you think the idea of essences and plain snuff in a kit might interest snuffers in general?

S

I think it could work, if w can involve WoS or toque. The kit idea is good but what essences would you use? They can be expensive, also you really don’t need much to scent something, too much ruins it so maybe an FAQ from a maker on quantities? Or just leave it up to the individual to experiment?

J

@snuffles Sounds like a good idea - I’d certainly be game for giving it a go.

M

Hi @Skell18. I got an email from a member about comments being removed for the BST thread. I checked the change log and see you removed them. Why? If you delete comments could you maybe contact the person or make a statement on the thread? The comments seem fine to me… I don’t have any explanation to offer the member on your behalf. 

S

Hi @miamimark the trade thread was getting clogged up with chit chat, so all I did was keep the thread tidy and in line with the rules. I do normally message the people to ask that they keep the trades and talk about them in PMs so the thread doesn’t get cluttered. There are some repeat offenders who have been told before and most people do keep it to PMs. I have had messages from some members complaining about it getting cluttered up too so they can’t see what’s on offer without wading through a page of conversation. I don’t mind explaining it to the member if you want?

S

Yes, please do.

M

Yes please do. I hate getting the emails / private messages about this kinda stuff. Thanks!

S

Let me know who it is and I will get onto it.

M

The chit chat doesn’t bother me a bit… any one else have an opinion? There are so many other worse things to be concerned about. Trackerdex complained but I would explain to anyone who’s comments you deleted. …

S

Whilst we are on the trade thread, is there a way to add photos to a post? Mecompo has asked how he can add pics of the pipes he has for sale, and trying a photo bucket upload with the photo tags doesn’t seem to work, any helpers?

M

Sorry, I don’t know. I didn’t know it was any different that adding pics to any thread. 

M

I just uploaded a picture from my computer… easy as can be. I guess I don’t understand the question…

M

On another matter… I HATE the “begging for snuff” comments and threads. I would just as soon immediately delete them… any opinions??  

S

I agree with the begging for snuff posts too, delete away!

M

Hi all! Is the site moving REALLY slow for anyone else? It takes forever to navigate around. I seem to remember last time it was this bad, the site ended up going completely haywire. I think we ran out of memory. Could that be happening again? Is it just me? @MrSnuff ?

S

Before anyone starts moaning to us, I have tidied up the trade thread and deleted all the over 60 day posts. I still think the replies should be deleted as there is no way of knowing if a trade happened and it should be by PM anyway. @miamimark I left the pic of your pooch because, well

M

Why don’t you just mention that you tidied up, in the actual thread itself? Why is that so difficult?

S

The rules of the thread are posted at the top, so we really shouldn’t need to explain why things have been deleted. is it really too much to expect people to read?

M

I haven’t read the top of the thread for a couple years…

S

Hi all

I have a request with our server management team, we have a scan scheduled and a new management program to try and detect the reasons for the poor performance. Really sorry about this, trying to resolve the speed issue asap.

Best

Pat

M

@miamimark snuffhouse currently uses more resources than the other two sites combined. As a result we are having to upgrade our server and switch to managed because we just don’t have the in-house skills to make sure resources are being used effectively.

Ho hum…another

M

@MrSnuff… Huh?? Is your comment in response to my comment in May? The extreme slowness comes and goes.  Right now it’s working good, yesterday it was slow, for me. 

Personally, I never thought it was necessary to save every single comment for years and years… I assume that’s what uses so many resources?

“Ho hum… another” , what?? Lol! I see a lot of complaints about sentences being cut off, something about punctuation I believe.  

M

lol. whoops.

I can’t remember what I was going to say now.

I think it was something about

M

Ok. Just kidding…I cut that off.

:slight_smile:

M

oh I remember…

“…another $1700 a year in server expenses.”

That was me just having a little moan. It’s all good.

M

Just testing something, please disregard

H

Forgive the new guy, @miamimark, but is this thread open only to us?

J

It is indeed, @Hitsuzen

Nobody here but us chickens…

H

Lol thanks, @Justin. I’ll be your dixie chicken, if you’ll be my Tennessee lamb… That song will be stuck in my head the rest of the night.

J

Aha! A man of taste and discernment!

M

Welcome aboard, newbies! I’m sorry you had to step into a shit-storm that I caused! Seriously, between us mods, Lunecat has been spoken to in the past concerning nasty comments made while (we assume) drunk.

H

@Miamimark No worries. Confrontation is what I do for a living. I just issued a warning in the protest thread. I liked Lunecat and would personally like to see him back, but if that was the call made, I stand behind it.

M

Really, the problem is this “Declan” guy… there’s really no winning here, no what what we do. His leftist nonsense is starting to bug me. 

As I said, if you all decide to un-ban him, feel free.

M

I just checked, Luncat and Declan are the same person, same IP

H

Holy shit, really?

M

YUP

M

LOL



Declan\tandrew.heywood@banctec.co.uk\tMember\tNovember -1\t6:01PM\t81.131.111.125 EditDelete

lunecat\tandrew_heywood@yahoo.com\tBanned, Member\tNovember -1\t3:11PM\t81.131.111.125 Edit

H

Wow. I have so much to learn. Does that happen often?

M

I can only think of one other time… a member wanted to badmouth another member… anomalously! ( I can’t spell that word, even with spell check!)

H

Wow. Do what happens in a situation like this?

M

I would LOVE to ban Declan too, but I won’t. I have to stop engaging him tho… it’s hard for me!

H

I just did it. That was just crazy.

M

Thanks @Hitsuzen for having my back… If Declan / Lunecat had just left things alone, he could have kept posting…

H

I was almost going to support bringing Lunecat back, but after that… that’s a new one for me. Probably best not to “take the bait”, but I have everyone’s back, in hopes you all have mine, too.

H

I just cleared out the “Flagged” cue, with the exception of the most recent. Has anyone asked Dave about the status of that?

H

And I just cleaned up the Bazaar a little. Just a few stray finished deals and cross chatter. Good night.

H

Hello guys I’m very thankful for you guys (David&Mark) ^:)^ in making me a moderator on one of my favorite websites.I will try my best I can to check and clean out all those people breaking the rules on the website.Ive still got a bunch of learning to do.But I’m a fast learner. Thanks And Aloha, Hawaiian_Ryan :-c

S

Hi Hawaiian_Ryan

Welcome to Snuffhouse. Although I am not involved on a daily basis, you can rely on me for any technical type of question. No guarantees but I will try and help.

Best 

“Pat”

M

Welcome aboard gents. 

Initiation by fire! LOL

Lunecat has been banned and reinstated before. He was even a mod for a while. I have no doubt you’ll want to ban him again in about 6 months or so. Seems like he gets into the sauce a bit too much on occasion and loses his decorum.

Overall he is a great member. He just needs to be reined in every once in a while.

Mark: I want to say a HUGE thanks to you for handling the site pretty much solo. I should have been more on top of it and asked for more volunteers a while ago. My apologies. 

Having several mods allows the good cop/bad cop routine which is a great way to defuse things. You didn’t have that option, which made things especially difficult. I could have jumped in but I am paranoid about being seen as interfering as you know.

On on.

Dave

H

@MrSnuff I hope I didn’t step on anyone’s toes yesterday, especially @miamimark. I kind of jumped in head first, but this is partly what I do for a living, too. I banned my first member (“Declan”) an hour into moderating, mostly because I feel like it’s misleading and potentially dangerous for anyone to have multiple profiles. Lunecat and I have argued and made up more than once since I’ve been a member. It was right for him to be banned until he got some rest, and for the overall good and wealth of the community I felt it was a good idea to reinstate him. Really really hoping I didn’t step on any toes there. Early thus morning I did delete another fake profile he tried to generate (“fred123”) for the same reasons I banned “Declan”, and unless anyone objects, I plan on keeping my eyes open for multiple accounts under anyone for a while. I’ve also been doing some housekeeping with the Bazaar thread and flagged posts. I’m up early must mornings with about an hour free, so I can hit the Bazaar daily and delete anything over 61 days. @miamimark you have some serious energy and patience to have been doing this mostly alone for so long. Anything we can do to help, anything we can be doing better, just say the word.

M

@Hitsuzen great first day. Feel free to delete duplicate accounts (as far as I am concerned at least).

@miamiMark is really the guy to ask about how he feels about lunecat being reinstated. He is the one who suffered the personal attacks.

This is very very rare btw. However now that there are 4 of you, each watching the others backs I suspect things will get nipped in the bud. The yellow card idea is a good one. As is PM offensive members. I wonder if it would be possible to have a little icon below the persons name (we used to have these icons that would register a persons feelings about a post). A yellow card would show everybody that the person has been warned.

We can also encourage other members to speak up with nice warnings, like “hey X. You are straying into the XYZ which is generally not tolerated. Just a heads up”. This used to be done as part of the forum culture but for some reason it has kind of died down. I suspect it was getting too close to flaming and people were scared to raise their heads above the parapet. It worked though, and is good for newbies to see.

Also do we have forum rules posted somewhere obvious? Might be an idea to come up with a sticky just so everybody is clear.

Dave

M

Thanks for all the encouragement and back-up guys, I do appreciate it! 

There hasn’t really been many issues lately so handling it solo wasn’t a big deal.

I have to keep this short as I’m busy today and I’ll be away from my computer most of the day.

I agree we should DEFINITELY not allow multiple accounts.

Lunecat: I can recall, off the top of my head, quietly (and quickly) deleting at least 4 inflammatory comments he’s made. I did it to keep the peace in the forum, without saying anything to anyone. In a weird way, I was “protecting” him. I won’t be doing that any more. Now I have help babysitting him!

Some type of yellow card / sticky note / whatever would be great.

I always thought there should be checklist that prospective members would have to check off, acknowledging rules and proving they’re not a robot, before the application was even submitted. 

As I’ve said before, I wish new members couldn’t start new thread… I think that would solve 90% of ourproblems… 

Thanks for hearing me out. I always liked the Mod thread, at least now I won’t be talking to myself!!!

M

Oh yeah I forgot to add…

BRING BACK DECLAN, BRING BACK DECLAN!!! 

Too soon???

:))

H

There is no Declan. Declan swims with the fishes.

H

If I remember right, this used to be a sticky at the .org site. I’m not sure what a complete list of active admins and mods would be, and I don’t see an option to make it a note. Maybe make it an announcement and bump it again once a week?

H

http://snuffhouse.com/discussion/6499/snuffhouse-terms-of-service

M

Yes, that’s a good thread, maybe re-worded and updated and in the place of my announcement  

M

Hmmm… I couldn’t copy / paste for some reason
http://snuffhouse.com/discussion/11064/hey-lurkers-join-us-please-read-this-first#latest

H

@MrSnuff Would you mind shooting me a list of all ACTIVE admins/mods to put on the announcement? I can get that up and running this afternoon. Any updates to the rules, or the wording to the rules? If not, I could just update the contacts on Cstokes’ post and bump it, with an updated message added in the comments.

H

Thanks @snuffles for the help if I have any technical problems and need help I’ll ask you thank you much aloha :-c

M

In addition to you guys there is n9inchnails and Justin I think. Mark would actually be better at answering this question.

Both snuffles and I have access to the admin/mod side of things but we don’t do any moderating. We are just a kind of backup for you guys.

If you have any technical questions/suggestions you can ask Pat. He iis not familiar with forms though so his help is limited. You can also always post it on the forum. We have several techy members who might know how to accomplish what you are looking to do.

The site could do with some additional features I am sure.

M

LOL… I love your comment on the wilson’s thread!!! @mrsnuff

H

@MrSnuff Thanks. It’s a shame Mark Stinson isn’t active anymore. He knew Vanilla inside and out. I contacted @snuffles last night regarding a small glitch someone noticed. Sharrow had multiple accounts, so I took the liberty of removing them. @miamimark I’m doing some spring break stuff with the kids, but I’ll have the guidelines back up front before the weekend.

M

@Hitsuzen, please don’t feel like you have to explain anything to me! There’s no hierarchy here, just a team.

H

@miamimark This has been your puppy for so long, I feel like there should be a “lead mod” role for you or something.

M

@miamimark @hitsuzen

“your puppy” LOL

Appropriate metaphor, n’est pas?

Mark Stinson might be willing to advise if asked nicely?

H

@miamimark @Justin @Hawaiian_Ryan @n9inchnails I’m working out the revised terms of service sticky and had a proposition that would require a consensus. I’m thinking, with everything going on right now, political discussions are going to be pretty hard for people to avoid. Especially given how deeply woven tobacco and state politics are, there will simply be no fair way to police political discussions here… Unless we allow political discussions to occur in The Pub (off topic). That way, any political threads can be either moved there or deleted for not having been generated there in the first place. We can still enforce our rules of conduct regarding abusive language and bullying, but cut out a lot of the picking and choosing when and where to cut off political conversation. Again, this was just a thought I had while going over the original Terms Of Service with recent events in mind. Thoughts?

N

I think having a politics thread is just asking for trouble, it will require constant moderation and I can see alot of members getting banned because of it. There are many forums people can go to bitch about politics, this isnt one of them. I think the best we can do is give friendly reminders to stick to tobacco topics when these threads start to derail.

M

I agree 100% with n9inchnails… Political and religious threads usually end badly. I know that tobacco and politics often intersect but I don’t think we should “sanction” it by allowing a place for it. I know (believe me!! it’s hard to know when to draw the line… we just have to try to use our best judgement… for better or worse. 

By the way… please remind me of your first names???

I’ve probably known them at at some point but I don’t remember…  

Mark (obviously) 

H

You guys are probably totally right. I’m a member of one tobacco group that regularly manages to engage in heated political debate without any chapped assess, but I’ve never seen it pulled off anywhere else (personal relationships included). My name’s Chris.

N

Steve

J

I agree with Mark and Steve - there are other places to go to do politics…

(I’m Justin, by the way!)

H

Okay, the new TOS is up. It is basically a copy/paste of the original (with the original linked). I did some minimal re wording to eliminate redundancies, expanded the section on advertising, added a section about holding multiple accounts, added a section about applicants giving “human” responses (in place of Mark’s note to lurkers), and updated the list of Admins and Mods. Please give it a quick look and let me know if anything needs to be changed: http://www.snuffhouse.com/discussion/11523/snuffhouse-terms-of-service#latest

H

Everything looks good :-bd Thanks Chris :-c

M

Hey guys… I just wanted to say, I’m not going to be on the site much today, it’s my GF’s birthday and we’ll be out and having fun! I have a feeling that lunecat is gonna go out of his way to stir up stuff. I WON’T be cleaning up after him, deleting his inflammatory comments before anyone else sees them. I personally believe that next time he starts “pissed posting” we need to ban him permanently. Anyway, have a great day everyone.

M

This may sound crazy but… are Mark Stinson and Pat (snuffles) the same person???

H

Whoa… @miamimark IP-wise, snuffles=modsnuff, modsnuff=Mark.

M

Or maybe… Mark Stinson was always actually always a secret identity of Mr Snuff??? LOL!  :))

J

@Hitsuzen Looks good to me. Thank you!

H

Okay guys, question. Being as how we lost the .Org domain in part because it got too big, which also hindered the eventual data migration, I’ve been doing trimming to reduce our footprint. Thread upkeep, clearing out the flagged cues, yesterday clearing out the change log, so on. I’m looking at our user list and noticing a lot of wants that were resisted ages ago and never used. Any objections to me clearing some of these out? I understand it’s a big job, but if I chip away at it over there next week, I think I can save us a substantial amount of space.

M

Lol… I don’t understand any of the above, over my head Maybe Snuffles would be the person to ask?

H

Fair enough. @Snuffles?

H

Lol, another typo too. *I noticed a lot of accounts that were registered

N

I dont see any wrong in clearing out unused accounts, not only does it open up space it makes those screen names open for new members to use.

M

I had a feeling the thread with the Nazi snuffbox was gonna be trouble. Any other mods on here now?

H

Yep. I commented politely on it earlier, but haven’t been back since. @miamimark

H

I closed and sank it, and sent Gilliat a message explaining why the discussion was closed. Now we have to keep an eye on counter-discussions popping up. When did it get so volatile here?

M

Well… you can’t expect to bring up Nazi’s and not get a response. 

H

Well yeah B-)

H

What’s strange is that’s been up for a couple days and only took a dip this morning.

M

^I was thinking the same thing

H

Gilliat said to go ahead and delete it, so I did. Then a few people flagged the “Kosher snuff for Passover” post as religious, so I deleted it, too. I’ll send Yisrael a message, he’ll understand.

M

@hitsuzen great job getting TOS done so fast

@Hitsuzen - we still own the .org name. It redirects to .com at the moment. This of course gives us the ability, should we so desire, to skin up a new version of snuffhouse and make it live with no downtime.

Feel free to make use of that if you want to experiment.

M

I’m guessing Lunecat is hoping to stir up more sh*t.

H

@miamimark Eh, playing devil’s advocate, Shaman and Mr. Hannah are both trying to get him stirred up. Not saying what they said weren’t justified, but if we didn’t dock Shaman for antagonizing him, when we all know he’s the first to flag ANYTHING he finds even the slightest big personally insulting, we can’t fairly dock Lunecat for responding to it. I closed the conversation. If he starts a new thread in response, then he has started the dialogue, and seeing as how I brought him back, I’ll take him back out.

M

If things calm down for too long, I say we give lunecat a poke just for fun

M

I am kidding of course

M

I can’t really look t the thread that closely this second but my thinking was that it was forgotten and buried until lunecat revived it

H

@MrSnuff Lolz, that’s not nice at all! @miamimark It pretty much was, but he’s been inactive since April 2nd, and he was tagged in a bunch of those responses. It’s partly my fault. I saw them and thought about deleting them, but chose not to. Let’s just wait and see. I’m at work, but I’ll be able to check in intermittently.

M

Everyone’s different… if I had created another account, raised a bunch of conflict and complemented myself, I’d be too embarrassed to ever come back. If I did come back (way) later I would go out of my way to avoid bringing this crap back up. 

Getting back on the forum has made him think he’s invincible, immune to anything. 

To paraphrase Clint Eastwood… he’s a legend in his own mind…

Oh well, we’ll see what happens!

J

I’ve just had a look at the membership list, and it seems to track most recent login as far as July 2015 - earlier than that it just says ‘November -1’. I have 127 pages of members, and the November -1 most recent logins start on page 50 if you order them by most recent login first. In other words, about 60% of our members haven’t logged in since before July 2015.

What does anyone say to deleting accounts that haven’t logged in since before July 2015? It’s a fair few clicks (well, the thick end of 2,000 actually) but a joint effort whenever anyone of us has 10 minutes to spare should get the job done pretty quickly.

H

@Justin I’ve deleted quite a few already. Started going through it last week when I posted above in this thread about it. I had no idea you could actually order them from oldest to newest. A lot of them have been either wants that were registered but never used or delicate/phony accounts, but some of them were one very active. I’ve been checking each one first, if the account was basically never used, I’ve been flat out deleting them altogether. If, however, they’ve contributed content, I’ve deleted them but kept the posts. Combing through them has been the only thing taking time.

M

I just got a message from Juxtaposer complaining about Lunecat.

So lunecat continues to be offensive and unrestrained. The closing of the apology thread only protects this attitude. Just an observation.


M

I told you guys, I’m done with babysitting this jerk. 

H

@miamimark I just fulfilled my promise to him. I’ll PM Juxtapose.

H

ATTN MODS If you approve an application, check to be sure the IP is neither of these: 109.157.28.210 217.43.237.121 These two belong to Lunecat.

H

Ya I also seen that too with Lunecat last night.

J

@Hitsuzen if you go into the Dashboard, and then Users, the ‘Last Visit’ header is clickable. Click on it and it sorts by last visited. You can’t do a reverse sort, so you then need to go to the final page to find the oldest, but it does put them in order.

I would be in favour of deleting all the users whose last login was ‘November -1’ but keeping their content. That should cover anything left over from the old board that made it through the migration process. Does that make sense?

H

#Justin Aye! I see it. I’m in favor.

M

@Hawaiian_Ryan… if you wanna bring up the topic of a banned member in the future, maybe do so on this thread? Let’s try to keep potentially inflammatory messages OFF the “open” forum. Ya know? :-) 

H

O my bad .I’m sorry Mark

M

No worries buddy! Just remember… on this thread we can say WHATEVER WE WANT!! LOL

H

@miamimark I was under the impression that anything posted under the “moderation” category was hidden from public view. Am I mistaken?

M

OMG you’re right! I’m so sorry guys, I didn’t know that thread was in the moderation category!! As far as I always knew, this was the only thread that was exclusive to us. I don’t think we’ve ever had 2 threads, just for us. Sorry Ryan, my mistake.

H

@miamimark Admit it, you’re a leftist!

M

I still don’t know what that means! I’m guessing I’d be more of a “rightest” if anything but I’m not really sure…

H

No problem @miamimark every1 is human and makes mistakes no one is perfect every time [-X

M

I’ve been meaning to ask… how do you know the IP address on a new applicant, before they are approved? I’ve never been able to figure that out. 

H

@miamimark I’ve just been checking them the second I approve them. So far as Lunecat, I’ve added the two IPs he’s used to the “banned” list, so he shouldn’t even be able to apply, but I’m new here and it might not work like that.

M

That’s great if you can block IP addresses. I suppose lunecat can, and probably will, go to a coffee shop or a friend’s house and apply for a new membership. It’ll be interesting when a “new” member starts causing problems and demanding we bring back lunecat…

H

Lol @miamimark I’m assuming he will do just that, but he has key phrases he uses. It’s almost involuntary. He’ll be easy to spot out. I’m kind of shocked he hasn’t emailed me yet.

H

Yea i also tried to email lunecat also but no reply.Im pretty sure he’ll pop up.He must be salty and probably scheming a way to come back.lol

H

You know what, I’m not even interested in moderating anymore. Bunch of grown damned children.

M

@Hitsuzen what’s the matter???

H

@miamimark Sorry, I should have kept that to myself. It’s just frustrating. People keep flagging each other for content, then venting about the mods responding to the flags. It’s like getting set up over and over again! Lol religious guy flags Nazi guy. Nazi guy loses his post, and goes off about the mods. Nazi guy flags religious guy over post about Passover, religious guy loses his post. Religious guy flags comment from August of 2016 because it mentions “karma”, venting that if he lost his post, that one should go, too. Personal messages about outage and butthurt that strangely mimics the back and forth behavior of my nine and twelve year olds. I’m good, Mark. Just, coming from the backside, I’m losing respect for people by the day B-)

H

I’m assuming this will all settle down eventually. Lunecat left a temporary legacy.

M

Wow! I haven’t seen any of this… Please don’t leave me!!!

M

By the way… I’ve NEVER paid any attention to flagged content… I’ve looked at it once or twice over the years.

H

@miamimark Lol no worries, I’m not leaving you. Just blowing off some steam, and I shouldn’t have done it here.

M

@Hitsuzen

People are having issues with text being cut off whenever they use a symbol pound sign or dollar sign or whatever.

Do you think this would help?

https://open.vanillaforums.com/discussion/11263/non-ascii-symbols-cause-errors



H

@MrSnuff To get European characters and an expanded ASCII char set to work, we need the UTF8 plugin, but before you can do that our Vanilla needs to be updated to 2.2, which then requires updating and possibly replacing all of the plugs we already use. Then, the debugging. It’s a big project.

M

Hello gents.

Mark @miamimark brought to my attention the fact that Manit Joshi is making a pitch for Dholakia selling their products directly to consumers. 

Apart from the fact he is selling it for way less than my cost, hence doing direct harm to business (which I think is nonsense for a manufacturer to do) he does not pay any advertising contribution.

If it were up to me I would delete his posts and ban him forever of course, but I can see how that might not exactly be a benefit to regular members :) 

However how would you feel about at least insisting they (Dholakia) pay for advertising? The cost always has been (since site inception by Alex) EUR100 per month, though Roderick pays only GBP50 a month (because he is a good friend and he actually contributes way more than he plugs).

I leave it, as always, to your good judgement.

Dave

M

@Hitsuzen

How much do you think your buddy would charge to update the site?

M

Manit Joshi had put us in a lose / lose situation. No matter what we do, members will be upset. It seems to me, many of our most vocal members don’t have ANY business sense whatsoever! Some of them really believe you (Dave) are the snuff robber baron, building vast wealth on the backs of the poor snuff user! LOL! They don’t seem to appreciate that you pay to keep this forum running, at your own expense. They don’t seem to understand that someone using the forum you pay for, to compete against you, is F*CKED up! All they care about is saving a few dollars, even if it’s only in the short term. In the long term, if Snuffhouse and MR Snuff were to go away, ALL snuff may become impossible to get. 

Don’t you have a business arrangement with Dholakia? Don’t you buy lots of product from them? I think any negotiations between the 2 companies should be done OFF Snuffhouse, in private. 

OK, end of rant!  

H

@miamimark @MrSnuff I agree one hundred percent. Using someone’s forum to compete against them is, at the very least, aggressive. My fear, unfortunately, regarding taking direct action, is that it will fuel the aforementioned misconceptions about what exactly Mr. Snuff is, and it’s (the business) relationship with this forum. Some people already believe it’s a sales machine for you, David, and movements like that could make things worse. I wonder, then, what happens when the chatter bashing you (even though it would be one of us, not you, doing it) grows to a loud roar, for the future of Snuffhouse. I know if people were consistently trash talking me on a media forum I was funding, I’d be more than tempted to pull my involvement in it altogether, which would of course be the death of our community. All of that said, I included the bit about solicitation in the updated TOS, and with the pinned notification informing users of the updated TOS, leaving it to them to either read them or knowingly choose not to, so if nobody else has yet, I’ll send him a message warning him that he is in violation of our Terms, the rates for advertising, and who to contact about that. If he ignores his warning and does it again, what can be said? I can’t treat him any different than any other member who knowingly violates our Terms just because he’s a vendor. @MrSnuff I’ll talk to him, but it’s hard to say exactly without all of the information. It’s there a way I can get a temporary profile with Admin access so I can have a look at the footprint? I promise not to fiddle with anything. I just want to present him with everything he needs to know before I ask him for a quote. I’m sure he’ll do it thrifty for us. I’ll even donate towards the cost if it’ll help.

M

anybody know who matteob is? He is a mod I don’t recognize. Signed on this morning.

M

@Hitsuzen: you are now admin

M

I just downgraded him to unconfirmed until we someone confirms he is legit.

H

Thank you. Let’s watch what he does. Meanwhile, let’s go back to email. Time to have some fun B-)

H

Thank you. Let’s watch what he does. Meanwhile, let’s go back to email. Time to have some fun B-)

R

May face a tiny bit of downtime; applying some patches.

H

FYI, I just issued snuff_v a warning for spam, and notified him that his discussion had been deleted. It was flagged as spam by another user.

M

more negativity from Mateob. That guy is relentless. I have to wonder if he works for one of the UK sellers:

http://snuffhouse.com/discussion/11631/6-photo-sample-pack#latest

M

there is flagged content you might want to take a look at.

M

I can’t even find that specific (flagged) comment in the thread… maybe the author edited it himself? @MrSnuff, did you see the app in the queue? “sell snuff machine” 

What do you think? OK to approve? 

N

I just declined his application,  “sell snuff machine” sounds like he only wants to use the site as free advertising.

N

He has applied again, I’ll leave it for one of you to decide

J

I’ve just let him through. I will PM him to let him know that this is not a free advertising forum.

Edit: Text of PM below.

“Hi Darren, and welcome to Snuffhouse. Just a note, since your application mentioned marketing snuff machines - Snuffhouse is funded by MrSnuff, one of the major online snuff vendors. While the forum itself is independent, the etiquette is that you don’t use it to advertise any sort of commercial venture. That said, have fun with the forum.”

M

Perfect. Exactly what needs to be done in these cases, IMO

M

He has contacted us regarding putting a paid banner on the site, so all is good. If he contributes (cash and knowledge - like Roderick and Vikas do) he can sell as much as he wants to. Of course if that is all he does then people will soon get bored.

R

Flagging a post from 2010…I might be silly, but does that really require any action?

H

Sorry I’ve been off here lately, guys. After OSP got shut down, I kind of took an internet break. @Rogue lol that all goes back to a post of his I closed after like ten people flagged it as being religious. Ten people flagged it as religious because I had just updated the TOS to note no overtly religious or political discussions, which I did in the wake of the whole Lunecat fiasco. Yes, it really is that petty. Basically it’s an ongoing feud between the person who flagged it and the person he flagged. Feel free to respond or dismiss as you feel is right.

M

Looks like mateob has 2 accounts, I wonder what he’s planning?
http://snuffhouse.com/user/browse?keywords=80.1.147.116

M

Thanks for stepping in @Hitsuzen… I did a little research… There was a Konrad Marburg (no von) that was banned in 2015. The first KM shared the same IP address of another banned member… I doubt it’s a coincidence… Glad to hear from you again!

H

@miamimark Lol sorry I haven’t been around. I’ve been rebuilding OSP Snuff and just haven’t been on here. Who was the banned member? It’s pretty early for this guy to be starting in on the group. Also, though, I’m getting tired of 90% of the content flags coming from two people- especially when I’ve cut one of them some slack in the past on his own posts, which could have been considered religious in nature. Sometimes the hypocrisy just gets to me is all B-)

M

Gotta run out the door but… http://snuffhouse.com/user/browse?keywords=192.0.153.196

H

Thanks, Brother. I’ll follow more closely. I actually remember the first profile. Troll. Have a great day! I’ll be in and out today, and I’ll start coming on here again at least a few times a week. I come on once a month to clean up the Bazaar, but that’s been the extent of it since this summer.

R

Looking up the 2 emails used there, they both belong to someone named Felber…one is a dog, the other is an elderly man.

johnalfelber@gmail.com belongs to Hurley Mason-Felber, a dog.

caligula@yorku.ca belongs to Frank Felber, elderly man.

Same people, just a man and his dog.

H

@Rogue lol wow, folks are creative. Let’s keep an eye on the and see where it goes. Something tells me we’ll end up calling him out, but I’d like to watch him for a while. I’ve been in contact with the OP throughout the morning. He’s upset, as per usual. He tried quoting the TOS to me, and I pointed out humbly that I penned the current iteration of the TOS. This has bought to mind a clause/provision I could add, should this continue to come up. I’ll check in with you guys first, once I get my thoughts together. I’m at work, so I’ll be in and out this afternoon.

H

Yisrael messaged me this morning asking me to violate the Inquisition guy because of his Avatar. I went over all of his comments and posts (under THIS username) and found nothing to bilateral him on. My answer to Yisrael was that while the Avatar may not be in best taste, it wasn’t, in my opinion, a violation of the TOS. He has asked where he can appeal my unsatisfactory decision to. @Rogue @Miamimark or anyone else, if you feel the Avatar is a violation of the TOS, I’ll not hold it against you to decide to take action where I decided not to.

H

On a side note, I’d like to say that these arguments are downright petty. I thought it was only here in the States that people were getting so easily offended. It gives me a little comfort to know that it is an issue the world shares.

M

I wanted to ban Konrad_WETF (edit: What ever the F*ck! Lol!) before I even knew about the avatar!! He just got here and he’s causing problems. I’m sure he’s connected to the other banned members. I’d rather just wait… then completely ban him instead of pissing around with his avatar…

H

I concur. I wanna watch him in case any other related accounts pop up. @Rogue?

R

sit and wait. Konrad showed us his real ID which isnt associated with the 2 banned accounts. As for reporting people for using a picture of something that may or may not be historically tragic because “this insults me” is a little petty. Thats like me asking miamimark to remove the pic of his dog cause Im allergic to them. If, however, Konrad said stuff about the spanish inquisition which would be obviously insulting, then moderator action would be justified, but if we take action, despite no clear violation of ToS, we would only be favoring one person before another. Is yisraeldov not the one who started flagging “religious” posts that were 3 years old because someone reported a post he made as “religious”, and he needed to take that to the extremes? I dunno, the guy is causing more trouble than trouble itself is causing…

M

What does that mean that he showed us his “real Id?” I don’t understand. I thought I recognized the style of writing / trolling to be StPedro…, that’s why I checked. Finding another Konrad… was a coincidence. 

R

He posted his birth certificate. And the different Konrads may indeed be different.

M

He posted his birth certificate? Where? I’m sorry, I’m SO confused!!

R

http://snuffhouse.com/discussion/11795/ethicality-of-posting-links-to-youtube-and-image-hosting-services thats where he posted it.

H

Anybody opposed to me clearing out some more inactive and duplicate accounts? I was going through them over the summer and managed to clear quite a few. Not removing the content, mind you, just clearing the profiles from our registry. I have some free time on my hands today and need something to fill it with.

M

Hey guys! I just approved Snuff_lover_71 a couple hours ago and he immediately puts some new snuff for sale on the BST thread… not even an introduction! What do you guys think? 

H

Lol looks like he’s been lurking, saw the sudden demand for Bernards and Poshl, and signed up to capitalize lol. I doubt anyone would send money to someone they don’t know at all, but who knows, right? Want me to send him a warning?

M

If you want to, that would be great! I’m not as diplomatic as you. I know, unofficially, Dave feels like it’s ok to occasionally sell stuff as long as you contribute. I believe he’s pretty against ONLY selling. Maybe a mention of something like that in the TOS?

M

Maybe also a post from one of us reminding people that SH takes no responsibility for any transaction done on the BST thread and NO ONE should EVER send money to a stranger! 

H

Sorry, I just released another OSP batch. I’ll be busy most of the afternoon, but I can leave a message and update the TOS this evening. I’ll send him a warning message soonly, though.

M

Awesome, good for you! No rush. At some point I wanna hear more about OSP and figure out which one I want to get!

H

@miamimark PM sent

H

Hey guys, do if you weren’t aware, I re-launched my snuff business (OSP). Because of our TOS, I haven’t been advertising on here at all, and have been doing that through my OSP Facebook page and a mailing list. I get asked on here about it every once in a while, and if it’s brought up I answer, but I also have people upset with me when I release something and they didn’t hear about it in time. Can I get some feedback from you guys on starting threads here about OSP? I was less hesitant before I was a moderator. Now that I am, I’m not sure if it would be acceptable or not. What do you all think?

H

Oh, and @miamimark I deleted the users post and issued him a warning. He’s written back claiming he had an old account years ago and had been very active, but lost his password and got locked out. I’ve asked him for his old username and the email it was attached to, offering to restore it if he can answer some questions. Otherwise, he still hasn’t contributed in any way aside from the spam, despite coming on the forum every day. No other threads or comments, he hasn’t even introduced himself.

R

@Hitsuzen I got no prob, cant answer for the rest, but if the others are cool, there should be no problems.

H

Awesome, thanks @Rogue. Anyone else? @miamimark @n9inchnails @mrsnuff

M

My understanding is… it’s ok to discuss your products for sale as long as you contribute to the forum. Really it’s up to Dave. I would email him privately if it were me. 

N

Doesn’t bother me, your an active member whos not just here to push his products.

M

“Lunecat” just applied for membership! He didn’t try to hide it, used the Lunecat name and the same Yahoo email address he used to use. I declined him. 

J

That’s entertaining. At least he was up front about it!

M

I have no problem at all with people punting products within reason. Especially you @Hitsuzen. I would say you’ve more than earned the right.

M

It’s really up to you guys to make the judgement call on users in this regard, rather than me (for new members particularly coming on and saying nothing about anything except how great their prices are or whatever).  As you know I have always been arms length specifically to avoid perception of it simply being a commercial arm of mrsnuff.

As I said above though @Hitsuzen even contributes his time to moderation so we can cut him some slack IMHO…

Roderick has a decent balance most of the time I think. Occasionally gets a bit overexcited but I think on the whole he’s a good example.

M

Hi, it’s nice to be back, thanks for the email! I’m thinking you might want to hide this subforum from us regular members?

V

Kudos to the mods posse for restoring a couple of misflagged old posts, you guys rock! I believe someone has clicked the flagging button unintentionally/accidentally (happened to me several times on some other places).

S

I don’t know how to change the forum theme. It’s unreadable!

M

Yes, it looks like something may be wrong.

What device are you using? Phone, tablet, laptop or desktop? Also which operating system?

@carlos any solutions yet?

S

Now I’m able to read again .

N

Good day, please accept this as my application to become esteemed forum moderator.

U

Kindly I request to create chat site for our members.