Just went to snuff reviews and it is down. Does anyone know if this is only temporarily?  

It says ‘account suspended’, which means its not been paid for; that was always going to be on the cards with that site and why I stopped posting there.

I wish we could import all of the reviews onto here were there is no concern of blackouts.  Seems like SR goes down every year around payment time.  I wish the owner would turn it over to someone who can keep up with it.  

And someone that would make it ‘purdy’

What?  You don’t like the 1994 layout?

I feel somewhat bad because I always wanted to donate money but never did. SnuffReviews has been incredibly helpfull to me.

Importing the reviews here is probably a good idea. But I don’t know if this forum presentation would work to parse the data. Does the Vanilla interface supports data stored in a tree-like manner? (categories, sub-categories, sub-sub-categories, etc)

Domains are cheap these days.  

You are right, Vanilla would not work with the format.  

All my reviews are also on Filek’s site as well as my own. 

We have a rewviews category that is not fully taken advantage of

I would be nice if the review threads here at snuffhouse were open so that everyones reviews could be on the same thread. Make it so that no one could start a thread except the moderators and we just petition them to open new snuff type threads. It might take a lot of work to keep clean though unless a strict posting reviews only rule is followed.

I’d happily take it over and promise to keep it independent.  

@juxtaposer - I don’t see how that is better? At the moment you write a review, click ‘reviews’ and its on the review section. One of us then closes it so it doesn’t turn into a discussion. What you suggest seems to be one long review which I think would just end up with lots of comments on it, it would then start wandering off course. I don’t think that would be of any benefit. Reviews, imo, should be the work of one person in one package. I think your suggestion has some merits but on balance I think the reviews would get very scrappy because people would comment, as with a discussion, and as you say it would need constant moderation.

There really isn’t anything on the review site that couldn’t be replicated here. The only thing the review site has over Snuffhouse is the body of work that is on there. What we need are more dedicated reviewers here.

@Toque - Roderick, do you mean the review section here or the Snuffreview site itself?

ahhh, I need my snuffreview–should have donated to it, clearly.

One time this happened it wasn’t money but busyness so who knows could be the same story this time.

must be me clicking refresh like crazy hoping the page will finally come up

Snuffreviews has been incredibly useful to me. I hope it returns.

@OscarWabbit If not, this should help ease your pain.

http://ludabo98.deviantart.com/art/papercraft-glenn-Quagmire-285220806

Hi Snuffster, I meant snuffreviews site.  

I think what Juxtaposer meant, it would be nice to be able to Juxtapose the good reviews with the bad. 

When I’m going to a new restaurant I like to read all the reviews not just one.  I have to accept that on snuffreviews site not everyone loved Toque snuffs (99% did, but there was some crazy person who didn’t like Toque C&B, then again that could have been me) and it’s good to see a fair representation.  

I don’t get it, just click on the reviews you want to read, they are all there. Maybe juxtaposer has a genuine love of juxtaposition. A harmless hobby I suppose.

I think all snuff producers should be banned by universal law from having any input into a review site.

:-q

Yes I agree  “I think all snuff producers should be banned by universal law from having any input into a review site.”  That’s why I said if I took over Snuffreviews I would keep it independent. It would have to be moderated by independent users and I would only pay the bills with no access.

It would be a shame to lose Snuffreviews as a resource.

The layout is user friendly and the reviews are very valuable.

Hmmm, ok. I’ll allow that:)

What a tragedy, I just did my first snuff review a few days before it went down. I’d like to at least go back and get it and post it here. I loved that site.

I remember that filek and if I am correct did he pretty much promise us that we wouldn’t need to worry. Or did my brain just make that up. Who knows?

someone has got some splain to do.

You would think so wouldn’t you. I suppose its possible that no one donated anything but here is the thing; websites cost nothing to keep on the net these days, the spending comes from re-builds or development, but the review site never changed. So unless he was locked into some exorbitant deal I don’t know what he needed donations for. 

Hasn’t he kind of disappeared?  If we get a site up, Im sure we could pool together and get quite a few reviews up in no time.

Sorry, what is that?

Top 25 Snuff English version.  Quite a nice site.  

It’s some time since I visited snuffreviews.com so I’m going on my old memory.
Al build the site himself so it was only his time and he would have no cost in it’s future development.

He promised it would never go down again due to his sponsors and the donate button.

I don’t understand the donations part? How much could he need to keep it online?

Maybe $20 a year.  Go Daddy has them right now for $10.  

What are the hosting costs in Poland?

http://secure.hostgator.com/forward.php?campaign=webhosting&page=shared.shtml&gclid=CIXe7v2Io64CFQxX7Aod-hCnRA

$11 for unlimited bandwidth.  

So was he just swindling or could he have been locked into something older and more costly? 

I’d hate to speculate.  If he renewed it yearly he would not be locked into anything.  If he was in a contract for multiple years it would have never gone down.  

@Filek, thanks for finding that and linking the old thread.  Two years ago, well it shows my old memory is still 100%

It would be a shame to lose everything on the original site, but I think the one that @Filek has would work as a suitable replacement if the OG never comes back up.  It doesn’t quite have the quantity of reviews, but the way the reviews are organized looks very similar/the same.  As for the lack of content, we snuffhouse.org users could go in and review a bunch of the snuffs that we currently have and flesh the thing out in a heck of a hurry.  Perhaps Dave would be willing to donate some of the reviews from his site.  Just an idea.

I’m sure it was a guy called Al Bruanis but I can’t find him in my email contacts. I might be spelling his name incorrectly? He was a nice guy but was going through some tough times. I’m sure he’d be happy to hand it over to us if we could make contact.

Roderick, his email is in the link Filek posted.

Well done Filek, I’ll email him.

Emails appear to be being rejected. Has anyone tried the wayback machine?

No record on wayback; anyone any other ideas how we can rescue all the data or the site?

@Toque, us mods have been trying to get to him since yesterday.

Whichever way you look at it, hosting a site like snuffreviews is very very cheap. No excuse for it being down. Isn’t the owner a member here then?

Yes, but his last visit was in August 2010.

Maybe he’s got some personal things going on. Did he used to come on here often ?

Any idea how to navigate from there?

Not sure that I understand the copy part.  

@londonsnuffs, if you like statistics:-  Member and active for 28 months - Discussions 33 - Comments 427.

@Filek:

Got it!

Xander’s Reviews:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XSOTTjDpXLgJ:snuffreviews.com/list.php%3FFunction%3DUserReviews%26UserID%3D216+Xander+Snuffreviews&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

It can also be done with individual snuffs.

Gawith Hoggarth Almond:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tqOFXiK_GSkJ:snuffreviews.com/list.php%3FFunction%3DReviews%26ItemID%3D204+Gawith+Hoggarth+Almond+Snuffreviews&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

I think the data should be mined for our use here.  

Filek, again well done. 

Can you transfer the data to top25? I’m sure all the guys here who’s reviews you’ve saved would gladly give their OK.

Is there any way of copying a site? I mean making an exact copy - homepage, layout, all the threads and categories, like a complete time capsule?  Obviously it would no longer be online but could you archive an entire site and place it on a FAQ thread?

This may be a very stupid question, but I am not an IT person, in any way, shape, or form.
:-j

Re Roderick’s comments above. Filek your welcome to mine.

How would you transfer if its no longer on line?

It is still up there thanks to the Google bots, but it will be segmented.

I think the best way to get the info would be to open a cached copy of the top 10 reviewers reviews and then saving that information.  Of if someone had an entire day, they could open the snuffs one by one and copy them over.  

Excellent job @cstokes4, the reviews section is looking better by the minute!!

This is probably something that would have been a lot easier to do if we’d been worried enough to archive the site after the last outage.  I’m pretty sure it’d be fairly trivial to have just archived it with some wget magic, put it into a tarball and we’d have had all the reviews.

As I recall, we discussed archiving our reviews and putting them up elsewhere the last time this happened, and efforts stalled because we wanted to get Al’s permission to do so, and he vanished from the discussion just after someone proposed the idea.

I think you are right Shik.

I will do them as I can, one here and there.  It will get done eventually.  At least we will have a bank of info here, then we shouldn’t bother with the site any longer.  

@juxtaposer - I understand what you mean now, my apologies.

@cstokes4 - that looks cool on the review site; how are you doing it? Simply, ya know:)

I’ve got some web experience… While I’m not certain that I’d want to maintain a whole site myself, I’d be willing to contribute to setting up a better review site that we could tailor to our needs.

@Snuffster:

I’m viewing a cached version of the site through google then just copying and pasting.  

Ecky thump.

Hover your mouse over the double arrows then click on the cached link.

In order to view the individual snuffs/pages, you have to search for them, i.e. “snuffreviews.com levi garrett”

Thanks Chris, this is excellent.

@cstokes4 I’m going to try and save you some time here.  I’m downloading an archive of the site that was made about two weeks ago.  It’s not a complete archive, but it’s got the better part of the site from what I can tell, give or take about 200 reviews.  I’ve got this running on its own, and I imagine it’ll be substantially less effort than what you’re doing now.  Once wget is done doing its magic, I’ll put everything in a tarball or a .7z archive (whichever you prefer), and post a link to it.  

Edit:  Looks like I may have spoke too soon, may have to fiddle with m parameters on wget a bit to make it work as I want.  Shouldn’t be too difficult though.  Tarball is just an archive format ending in .tar.gz, .7z is a 7zip archive.

Sounds good, 7z works fine for me.

Well, I changed to the Warrick tool, rather than wget, but I should be able to get a good chunk of the website backed up with this tool.  I’ll leave this running until it finishes, and let you guys know how it goes.  If all goes well, we should have a relatively complete copy of the site, and then we can attempt to coy over the rest of it by hand if need be.  This could take a while to run, but I’ll post results as soon as I can.

Edit:  Carry on with what you were doing, @cstokes4.  I gave it a go, but between the Internet Archive, Google, Yahoo and Bing, the automated approach seems to have been defeated.  It got up to the index of companies, and then doesn’t seem to have been able to get any further without being directed to the current accound suspended notice.

When you say Internet Archive, do you mean The Wayback Machine? I haven’t had to use it in years, but if that’s not it, it could be worth a shot.

That would be the one.  The Archive isn’t really meant for retrieving pages once they’ve been put up, and they had only partial archives of snuffreviews, anyway.  Get two or three levels down the directory tree and you’d be greeted with the current “Account suspended” notice, as they hadn’t bothered to get that far in their archiving of it.

I know this is an old thread but it brings up another concern about websites. I have not seen or heard from Prof. Griffiths in some time however his site is still up. No updates since 2008 and guest book defunct. Used to communicate via e-mail but no longer have his address. As far as I know this was the first website devoted to nasal snuff and is a classic. Definitely worth saving. Any interest in archiving the site? http://www.snuffbox.org.uk/

Surely the fact it’s still on-line means someone is paying to keep it that way. But yes, I agree enquires need to be made to ensure it stays that way.

So donate $ to keep your favorite web sites alive ,

And where would one donate? Host? WelshNetCymraeg .org so may have free hosting Keep in mind that this was the original web site devoted to nasal snuff. Prof. Griffiths was the only person on the net that I could discuss snuff with at that time. Have not heard from him for some time. Will investigate further.

Strangely enough, snuff reviews does seem to be down.

If you try a Google of snuffbox.org Google reports “this site may be hacked” I do hope the Prof hasn’t lost control of his site.

It is back as of the last several hours.

Not sure why anyone would want to hack snuffbox. Google probably flags it because of not being registered with them. I have visited it directly several times with no problems / warnings.

SNUFF REVIEWS NEED TO BE HERE it works for those that need the info.

Snuffreviews.com shows to be up for sale at moment?

Since the EU TPD debacle, much of the old reviews are now obsolete. Jaxons have switched producers, not sure what Viking have done, SG & GH production is unclear since merging (was GH buying from Poschl, but now using SG’s production facilities? Exactly when were GH buying in the flour?) Many products have been culled, Royal George recipe changed (or scent changed) due to switching ingredients/suppliers, and who knows what else may have changed to ensure product registration or account for tobacco variety availability in this changing world. Once things stabilise, we’ll be entering a new phase of snuff production, needing a whole new set of reviews. Maybe we should consider archiving the old reviews here on the site, and establish a sub-forum for new/current snuffs. That way it’s clear for new and occasional members to differentiate on what they can seek out, and what “historical” snuffs they missed out on.