From now on we have some moderators around. You are able to close discussions well as delete comments. Deleting a comment actually just hides it to everybody but me. You’ll find a “delete” link beside every comment. In case of emergency, feel free to contact me via phone (see contact tab above). Please only act upon emergency and report your actions here. To see who’s a moderator search for them.
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Hi Alex, Thanks, I am glad to help.
I’m honored to be part of this group! I’m thinking I’ll only delete the very blatant stuff, like the troll from last night. I’m not really trying to be a censor.
Who is that guy Tex, I have never seen him post?
I was wondering the same thing about Tex.
@miamimark: Then you are on the right track.
Tex is my test account. Be kind to him.
LOL I thought it was your twin brother in America!
Thankyou for your confidence Alex, it will not be abused.
Alex, in the need to close a discussion, as opposed to deleting a comment, what is the procedure?
In order to close a discussion, please have a look at the top left. There you can bookmark, sink and close a discussion. Sinking means, the discussion doesn’t move to the top anymore if it contains a new comment. To delete (= invisible) a comment, have a look at the top right of the comment.
Ok thanks.
I don’t want to widen our role beyond what is strictly needed, but can I make the following observation and suggestion: as things stand we can sink, close and delete. However, to my mind, this does not cover the potential case of someone maliciously posting on numerous threads one after the other. The moderator would then be forced to ‘follow’ the troll from thread to thread, dealing with the offensive material after it had been posted and, in all likelyhood, viewed. Would it make sense for us to have the capacity to temporarily - pending Alex’s final decision - suspend an account? I didn’t see any of the stuff the other night - fortunately it seems - but this seems to be an example of when that faciltiy may have been useful. As the sole decision maker is Alex, and we ourselves are just as subject to the rules as anyone else, I think this could be added without any undue issues?
That is a very good point, but not possible at the moment. I can only enable moderators to be able to change roles or not. Changing roles includes changing them to admins, which is like god mode. Even though I am sure you would not misuse this feature, it is to critical. Sorry, but I cannot offer a solution here. An easy way to find all discussions and comments of a user is doing an advanced search. That’s what I did after banning the troll and deleted one after the other.
Since this is for “our eyes only” I’ll ask what I’ve always wondered: Couldn’t a troll just open a new account with a differant email?
Ok Alex, thats fair enough. I certainly wouldn’t want administrator status, if that is what it takes. Probably time to just see how this works out now without putting up too many ‘what ifs’ Miamimark - yes, is my understanding, but as Alex intimates, there is a limit to what we can do I guess…
Yes Miami, they sure could. A lot of the forum banning today therefore works on IP address ranges and subranges. The problem is that is much too broad. Let’s say some guy from Miami comes on and starts posting spam or other objectionable material. So we ban his account. Then we see he comes back and signs up for another account. This happens very often. So they ban his IP subrange, which happens to be everybody who comes from Miami ISP International (imaginary company). The problem is, you and two other valuable members also came through that same ISP, so when they banned his subrange they also banned you. This happens ALL the time. The other thing is to ban people by email service signup. Some guys comes through me@mail.com and we ban him. Then another guy comes from newguy@mail.com and we ban him. After awhile we get sick of it and decide most of the people who have accounts at mail.com are idiots and spammers so we just ban signups through mail.com. The problem is when a guy who has been using mail.com for 10 years and has everybody in the world who knows him contacting him through that one email account, he doesn’t want to change it. And maybe he can’t find another email service or doesn’t like the privacy terms of use, etc. The only way to really control things when the forum starts getting to some stage (and I think it is still aways off thankfully) is to approve individual signups and have reduced privileges for some short period (for example, no posting images or links for 25 posts or whatever). This is not perfect, and no signup system can ever be perfect, but what it does do is make it more trouble than it’s worth for some miscreant to try to ruin our forum. Now on another topic, guys, I would ask your help: I feel it’s important to never allow personal attacks on any forum where we really want to foster a family atmosphere like we have developed here. I mean here people have posted about losing a family member or a beloved pet, about losing a job, about moving to a new country and these are all hard things and most of the people have been very supportive. I feel we can’t allow this magic to be destroyed by people with bad manners or personal attacks. Of course this is Alex’s forum but I would beg you all not to tolerate any sort of personal attack. Everybody has the right to contribute about snuff and shouldn’t be insulted for his views/comments/etc. We also have some gay/lesbian members on the board. While I personally object to this, it’s not my life and they have my respect as fellow snuffers. Thankfully everybody was well-behaved when they announced their lifestyle here. This is too good of a forum and we have a wonderful mix of people, so please guys lets remind anybody who makes personal attacks that it’s not acceptable, and let’s make sure it doesn’t continue. Thanks to Alex for the best snuffing board of all time!
I got the feeling I have chosen the right people to become mods. I always have the option to got to manual approvel if troll keep coming.
Ok, let me try this again! This time I’ll copy / paste before I click add. If any mods want to save my email address so it’s available if the site goes down, it’s miamimark@juno.com. Feel free to send me yours if you feel comfortable. I have a few members emails saved in my address book from trades, and it was nice communicating and sharing info when the site was down last week. Back to the subject above: I liked someone’s idea about new members filling out a form before they become a member. Nothing crazy, just a few questions about their snuff use. That might make it more trouble than it’s worth to a troll. Perhaps the info could be passed on to the supporter shops. I wonder if it would be possible to make new members be “sponsored” by a supporter shop. After they make a purchase, they could become members. They could always lurk without becoming members, of course. This is the first forum I’ve EVER been part of, so i’m no expert. I do know a little about sales and marketing. My understanding is that the sponsor shops basically pay for this site to exist. Anything we can do to help them is good and could entice more sponsor shops to join. IMHO of course…
I wouldn’t condition membership on buying anything but the idea of sponsorship does have a lot of merit if the board gets very big. Then we could say you have to have 1 or 2 guys sponsor you, so only known good guys sign up. I think this is far in the future though. Sponsoring by shops is a double-edged sword. You don’t want to give up control of the board or start letting the sponsors control things. The idea is that *they* are the ones benefitting by sponsoring the board, because guys who come here buy their products. This is not the same as their customers coming to this board. Alex already has my email, the rest of the mods can feel free to contact me through dogman@isonews2.com. BTW since we already know Alex and Nigel’s names and I assume miamimark is Mark, my name is Israel and I live in Israel in the mountains. I would appreciate if everyone would continue calling me snuffbox on this site though. Now we have to figure out who MidnightMoses is
Using myself as an example, no one knew me on this forum when I became a member. I had made a Toque order and Roderick suggested I check the forum out. I see you edited, snuffbox! I was going to put you in my address book as snuffbox! And yes, my name is Mark and I live in the Miami, Fl. area.
nigel.mccarren@yahoo.co.uk (East London) I think we have a good group here, happy to be part of it.
Alex, 0049-178-2667788, mail@alex.aero (if Snuffhouse.org is down), Hamburg, Germany. See the contact tab for more information.
Hi Alex and fellow mods, thanks for your trust in me, I’ll do my best to keep this forum clean. I’ve just found the link to become a member. As my other love is Formula 1 racing I must come back after the qualifying for the Spanish Grand Prix to digest all this page and more. Regards from John (Snuff Head)
Welcome John. Another excellent choice!
I just changed the membership approval procedure to manual. Moreover I decreased the number of possible posts in a certain time span. This makes it a lot harder to spam.
New members from now on have to give reason why they want to join (view registration form).
Good idea.
uhhh… I’m being put under a spam block! Maybe you should remove the time posting limit as long as you are verifying new members, Alex? This is very annoying!
It has always been in place. I only handled it more strictly yesterday. I adjusted it again. You should be able to post faster now.
I’ve now took in the contents of this thread and notice you have all been giving contact details. Well I’m John and live in Hull, East Yorkshire UK. The bast email address to reach me on is :- snuff_head@yahoo.co.uk Regards all. John
Thanks, Alex
Hi all, I closed/sunk the “Today’s funnies” thread. It’s just a bunch of juvenile sex jokes, has nothing to do with snuff, and doesn’t bring out the best of this forum. I have tried to make several friendly hints but certain members seem to have a difficult time controlling themselves. We didn’t have these kinds of posts a few months ago and they’re becoming more common. It seems we all agree with keeping the forum good clean fun and on-topic.
It looks like it was re-opened. Edit: It wasn’t reopened, just a new one was started. (I think!)
Well it looks like a new thread with same title opened by Pieter Claassen. Never give him your e mail address by the way, I did and now all his mail goes in my spam box. He send out stupid jokes and sends in batch and never uses the BCC so all addresses are in view, It’s no coincidence that I get begging letters from S Africa.
Thanks for the tip. I think he contributes a lot of good but I thought his “I love Debbie” comments where a little on the creepy side. I guess they don’t bother her so that’s all that matters.
Lol! Mark you can blame me for that, he thought he was writing his thoughts to himself in Afrikaans and with the help of my poor Dutch could translate it and made it public. He does write some good stuff, but can be childish.
lol, I remember, that was funny! I made a comment, in response, that Pieter asked me to edit, so I did! I was referring to many instances, not just the poem that you translated…
So bcc means that no one else can see who you’re ccing? What is it, blind cc? I never knew that.
BCC = Blank Carbon Copy. Yes you can put your own address at the top, then other addresses in the BCC and then you will get your own copy and all others will get their mail, but cant see who or how many copies where sent, and to who… I noticed you edited that post, but I read it before the edit.
That’s good to know, I have friends that send me stuff, I get the email on my iphone and I have to scroll forever to get to the content. I’m gonna have to tell my friends. Thanks! We CAN learn from each other about more than snuff!
Just curious snuff head, did you think it was a “over the line?” Be honest, of course, no hard feelings!
Thanks for closing the thread. Next time we might dicuss it in advance, but this time it was fine.
When I first read it I thought is was dead funny, I think I wrote "Don’t know now who has the red face now Pieter or Debbie. when it was edited I thought you, yourself had 2nd thoughts. So he was upset was he?
Thanks, Alex.
Not really upset, just politely asked me to edit it, it might make her uncomfortable. I thought it was funny but I have a pretty warped sense of humor!
Yes I think Alex has a good point. If it is a thread that has been going on for some time and getting out of hand then there is time to discuss. That is unless it gets very bad.
I closed the thread about moderators too. Let’s just leave it aside.
Okay. Pieter is fine with our decisions and thanking us for our work. Everything is fine though. Just to make sure: Moderators (you and me) should only act on emergency with closing discussions. Thanks for the quick reaction time here. Great!
Due to recent developments Snuffbox is no moderator any more. He seemed to be mixing up moderation with censorship, which just doesn’t work. Thanks.
As mods, I believe we should only act in the most pressing emergencies and that means letting things go that we don’t like ourselves. My idea of an emergency would be threatening language or grossly obscene material, text or pictures. In the last year there have been only two occasions when I would have stepped in (I didn’t see the recent one) - when Hydrahead started whispering people telling them to die (I was one) and when Farleyflavours posted a joke about child sex abuse. I intend to leave everything apart from those types of things to Alex as the owner, and head, of this site.
I agree. I’ve said it before, I really plan to go after obvious trolls and personal attacks. I don’t think I would ever close / sink a whole discussion. When things are borderline, maybe we should agree to come to this thread and get agreement from at least one other mod. A “forum quorum” if you will.
Hydrahead threatened people before? Why didn’t I bann him earlier? Didn’t I know that? Well, he is banned since his last actions. @snuffster: Than we are heading the same way.
You are absolutely right. All of you.
Midnight, lol! well a username can come from another forum, or work related. Has I wrote on here yesterday:- If it is a thread that has been going on for some time and getting out of hand then there is time to discuss. That is unless it gets very bad. It’s a pity, but Snuffbox had his own agenda.
midnight, do I remember correctly, your username is a band? I hope snuffbox hangs around, even if you gets a different username and asumming he keeps a low profile, of course. He whispered to me several times about my comments, being “not family” I told him this wasn’t a family forum, the subject being tobacco. Several other members basically made the exact same comments later on. I think no matter what, majority rules, with Alex having the final say of course.
Alex: what did Hydrahead do this time to get banned?
I was just thinking Alex; Snuffbox was two hours ahead of us in the UK and only 1 hour ahead of yourself, so no big problem there. But maybe we need to look for someone, say in Australasia to monitor for you. Remember the other week when that Chinese Spammer came on.
Thinking again, Bentonent (something like that) A fellow countryman of yours Alex,out in Korea. Or is he too busy.
That would be good, right. We’ll watch out to find one.
@snuffster: Postin pics of blown heads, racist comics and naked women.
Bentonente (which means “concrete dug” btw), isn’t around on a regular basis. Last checked by at the end of April.
@ Alex, Australasia is vast, but not many snuffers. But I found two snuffhouse members Ausmike Joined January 2008 and a new member ‘Mongrel’ joined 3rd of this month. Maybe Mongrel is to new, and needs to be tracked for a time. Before he’s invited as a mod.
I don’t think its wise to apoint someone who has just joined, for all we know we will have to moderate him!
We will see if another moerator is necessary. Let’s just take our time. Thank you all so far. You seem to really be interested. Great.
Thanks Alex, and and an appeal to the rest of the guys: lets go easy on this and only use our status in the most pressing occasions. I don’t doubt you will, I’m just reinforcing the message is all. I see this as an honour to be asked to moderate and am treating my new found ‘powers’ with a lot of respect. If I don’t sink or close anyone in the next year I will be extremely happy!
I just thought we needed someone down-under to monitor while Europe sleeps. Ok not many members out there but there was a spammer from China the other week that could have been sunk, long before Alex could do the job. We have to sleep.
We definitely have to sleep, yes. I will keep my eyes open to potential moderators from the east.
Ill be offline for a few days, visiting in the North and seeing Eric Clapton in Manchester, later guys.
Have fun!
Snuffbox just emailed me to deactivate his account. He couldn’t except being voted off for expressing his opinion. I followed his will and told him to keep in contact.
Kind of sad really. As I said before, hopefully he open a new account with a different username and lurk or comment occasionally. I thought he contributed a lot, before he became a moderator.
IMO , he can share his opinions. Trying to moderate other people’s (different) opinions was the problem!
Oh, I didn’t know about anything like that, from anyone! He would always whisper to me, saying my little joke / comments where inappropriate. I assumed he was ultra religious and thought a joke with a little "sexual innuendo’ was not appropriate for this “family” forum. Racist or homophobic comments are unacceptable ALWAYS, of course. OT: I’ve always wondered, how do you make your icon flash?
I turned that off, so no. I don’t see them. Should I?
Sad to see Snuffbox go like that, but I could see that coming. I’ve been in contact with him since he joined Snuffhouse. First he whispered me, then we exchanged emails. He emailed my yesterday saying he had asked to be removed because of the silliness. I never learned much about the chap, he is a very private person. The emails contained only snuff related items, so that’s all he thought this forum should talk about I guess. Just as Mark said, I hope he lurks to the ‘right’ threads and maybe come back one day.
@ Snuff Head: Have you read at Snuffbox’ account page who his snuff idol is?
Lol, how modest! Edit: Oops, I got confused and thought he named himself, never mind!
@ Alex, yes…He would often come on the forum publicly saying I was his idol also. I think is stems from when he first enrolled as a member on here, he was new to snuff and I gave him a lot of advice. By the way Alex the attachment button has gone. Did you switch if off so that is isn’t easy to post pictures?
Hehe… moderators weren’t allowed to add attachments. Now they are.
Lol! thanks Alex now I’ll shock you all by posting a photo of myself in my younger days in the OT-Giro D’Italia thread
Back now, still hyped up from seeing Clapton, he was just terrific! Re Alex seeing Whsipers - I believe he should. Hydrahead whispered me, out of the blue, and said ‘Die Fu88ing pig, Die’. Now, as a big fat old cop that sort of thing is like water off a ducks back unless the person saying it is in front of me with a weapon in their hand (which I’ve had), some little twit who is safe behind his keyboard doesn’t even appear on my radar…but there are a lot of people for whom that would have been a very big deal and who would just have gone away never to return. I’m not suggesting Alex reads all the whipers, just that he has the capacity to do so.
This is what Hydrahead posted to me, I apologise for the content but it does help to make my point: “Dethklok fucking rules!!! Oh and I think the stupid British pig should go choke on some bangers and mash and fucking die. DIE YOU BASTARD DIE!!!” Membership of this site, and the capacity to whisper, is entirely within the gift of the owner; Alex. Its not a private email and in my view there are no privacy issues. If members want privacy they can always exchange emal addresses. I think Alex, and only Alex, should have an overview of the whats happening on the site. Another question: are closed threads still readable by all members? I’ve just looked at the one with the joke about a kids genitals. Should this be taken off entirely?
Hydrahead is gone anyway. I just deleted the mentioned joke. If you ever get whispered insults, please let me know. I can turn on the reading ability to all whispers at any time.
you are right, thanks for bringing this up. I’ve just realised I made a comment (in fun) a while ago and in retrospect Its probably best removed. No need to apologise, sometimes a little reminder is not out of place Nigel
Removed. It’s good to sometimes have the other angle pointed out; a post made without too much thought as a joke can be offensive, but the poster not really see it that way at the time, just shows we all need to be aware of what we do.
No problem, thanks for having the bottle to bring it up. I would hate to cause offence to anyone and my wit (if it can be called that) is fairly sledgehammer! You just don’t think sometimes…
Sure thing Martin, I agree with the concept of setting an example on the site and that our standards of behaviour have to be beyond reproach. Nigel
It seems Snuffbox still feels he was correct in just zapping that thread with out first talking about it on here first. Heres two parographs from an email I just received from him:-_I was rather surprised at the lack of support for my viewpoint, especially since other people had said that they also favor a family atmosphere. However, only justplaindave stood up and said anything at all. And it made me rather ill to see the sharks gathering like a pack of hyenas. You couldn’t get all those people together to do anything positive, but when it comes to mudslinging it was all hands on deck. Really a nasty business. And the bottom line is I don’t care to have that kind of content in my home. I had a very pleasant conversation with Alex on the topic, but I feel he made a mistake by listening to that motley crue rather than just telling them bad conduct was unwelcome in his forum. So I haven’t been back. I told Alex if things get out of hand and he wants some help putting the animals back in their cages I’ll lend a hand. Until then…_I find it a little disturbing that he reckons his own views should take priority over all others!
I wonder if he considers me one the people that agrees with him. He whispered to me after several of my comments. I kind of agreed just to not make waves. Truthfully, I started second guessing every comment I wrote and started to feel like I had someone looking over my shoulder. If the tide had went the other way, I probably would have just lurked or gone away completely. I never use foul language or say anything with too much sexual content, just a little fun, “innuendo” SB told me my comments were “mild” but would “feed the beast” I think a forum like this should try to appeal to as many people as possible and I think a majority wouldn’t want this forum to be too “family”. Of course, the final say is with Alex.
Again with the “plonker”!! : )
Funny! 7 different meanings. I’m surprised I never heard that when I worked on ships. I was even known to utter “bullocks” and “cheers” once in a while. Of course when i wasn’t working I mostly got pissed and smoked faggs with my mates. Bloody 'ell!
At one time I could meet a new staff member and tell (basically) what part of England they were from, by their accent. I tried again recently and guessed London, the guy was an Aussie! Pretty embarrassing! I guessed I lost my touch after all these years…
Me and my girlfriend left the ships and spent a year in Nottingham (her hometown) together. Well… actually it was only four days, it just seemed like a year!
Ive just got back from Burnley in lancashire. I can confirm its grim, getting back to Londinium was a bit of a relief. My wife and son dropped me off in Manchester one night so I could go to a gig. They intended to have a meal and do some shopping and meet me afterwards. They ended up buying tickets from a tout as the whole of the centre was closed. Maybe the war is still on? Sorry to any current Northeners ( I was born and bred there) but it is grim. I think I missed this whole snuffbox thing, I remember not being on the site for a few days due to a heavy workload and when I logged back on I found I was a mod and snuffbox had started to be a problem.
He mixed up moderation with censorship why I assigned him to a standard member role. After that he said I should please deactivate his account, what I did.
Ah well, just life I suppose…
A little power to some can be dangerous!
I’ve been tempted to sink that “word association” thread! lol!
And my silly thread ‘nothing at all’!! I only did it as joke after jarhead deleted a thread, now it seems to have a life df its own!! I expected it to die in a day…
I forgot about that one! Yeah, that one too! They’re like a car accident, I don’t want to look, but I always do!
Ooops! Maybe our new status of setting an example is changing how we see things? I must admit, I am being pretty careful what I post,not a bad thing I suppose.
For a while I thought…What would snuffbox do? Then I went ahead and posted anyway.
Maybe something to watch, there is a Grim posting at the moment, Alex banned a Grim a while back - same guy?
@snuffster: Where is the Grim posting exactly?
Found it. The user is actually named Grim. I Can’t remember banning a Grim nor can the system: http://snuffhouse.org/search/?PostBackAction=Search&Advanced=1&Type=Users&Keywords=&Roles=Banned&UserOrder=&btnSubmit=Search
Alex, look at ‘Gray dust on Toque tins’ October 7th 08. I whispered you with a copy of something he said to Fixin2. Turn on the facility to let you view whispers and you will see what I mean. Somewhere around that time he started an argument where he was particularly obnoxious. I think this was about the time when you were otherwise occupied moving house. It may be that he just went quiet for a while as opposed to you banning him - I think this is what happened. Whatever you decide to do he is one to watch out for. Nigel
Nigel, I didn’t read this whisper before, sorry. That is inacceptable. Would we all please keep an eye on Grim and if he insults someone again (whisper or not), please let me know. If he starts that again, he is gone. Would that be okay for you all?
That’ Ok by me I’ll keep my eye out for him.
I’ll keep my eyes open.
FYI: Deleted a discussion by c4stokes after made it a sunk one. Topic: Remembering our soldiers. He let it rather being deleted than sunk, which was ok for me. I made it sunk, as I don’t want to argue about politics concerning wars here at Snuffhouse.org.
I agree with that a 100%, I personally believe there should be banned list of OT threads - not very long - but just the ones that have casued problems in the past; politics, religion and anything with overtones of pornography/near the knuckle sexual stuff.
Nigel, No problems here, I had the red mist with Lazarus talking about religion and shouted at him. I got a friendly warning from Alex. I was out of order. There is no problems between us now. I think we have all been there at sometime. I think Grim had a bad day too, but we’ll watch out for him.
thanks guys
I think it’s kind of funny and I’m certainly not perfect or an angel! It’s one thing to make a mistake and admit it. It’s something else to piss off a bunch of people and say till the end that everyone else is wrong, and your right!
I was wondering the same thing… It’s already sinking on it’s own.
I would guess that as long as it’s nothing offensive, leave it be.
I agree doing no harm and it will sink in a day or so.
I can’t believe I just brought this thread back to the top! Sorry! I was whispering to Tom about a trade, didn’t even think about it! Maybe we should close it.
Hi Mark, I don’t think you did bring it back. If you whisper, it only comes up for your eyes. Just like it does on any other thread.
OH! Didn’t know that. It’s back on top as far as what I can see. Thanks!
Yes, it will be now because we both spoke aloud.
Just want to let you know I am still around. I am in Switzerland right now, trying to find some Al-Capone Vanilla. And studying for one week.
Hi Alex, I emailed you when the web-site went down. It was down for just 2 hours. For your information.
Thanks. I am still preparing the move to another host.
Good luck in your studying and hope you find that Al Capone, you could well find William Tell!
I read that, I don’t know it is Z_2K and he’s been posting since 27th March. It could just be an American thing. I would leave it and email Alex, give him the thread “Discover Card” and see what he thinks.
Yes see what Mark think when he sees this thread opened again. Although we in the UK and America speak the same language, some things do get misunderstood. For now lets monitor that thread.
Well cstokes4 is American, and he is confused too, lol. I think it’s nothing.
Maybe he’s drunken? No problem here so far.
Just got home… Makes no sense to me!
He’s had too much snuff lol! Anyway it shows we are keeping watch.
Ive not read many of his posts, does he actually mention snuff anywhere? The one about the discover card seems like out and out spam.
@ Nigal not sure He’s just made a comment after me on “What your gonna drink tonight” His comment ‘Tommyknocker Pick Axe!’ Think Alex is correct, he’s bombed out his mind.
I agree.
Martin, As other members requested, then I think you did the right thing.
" I hope I don’t get Snuffboxed for this" LOL!
Well done.
yeah, well done. Theres being cautious and theres just not doing anything - sometimes you just have to make a decision. I must admit I’m starting to get slightly annoyed with the growth of the OT threads. Not against them per se, but they just seem to clutter the place up - could we have an OT section, I don’t know how practical that is? Also, now we’ve settled down and got used to this role (even if that means NOT doing anything) maybe we could agree to a list of definites that we can feel comfortable about acting on immediately? Can I suggest: Anything racist, pornographic, hate based Religous/political threads that get abusive Threatening, abusive or foul language Blatant spam or advertising, unless snuff related and supported by Alex. These are the things I would not hesitate to close down, I guess we all feel the same about those topics anyway?
I agree that everything above should be deleted ASAP. Anything less blatant we could confer with each other on this thread.
We have an off topic category now. You can block this category if you wish to NOT see the discussions in it at the frontpage.
How do you do that?
Snuffster: I was thinking about doing the same thing, blocking the OT’s, but I think as mods we really need to keep an eye on them.
You’re right Mark, best to keep them in view I guess.
Is Lazarus still a mod?
I mention this mainly because I’m about to go to bed, in case it comes up… I just deleted two comment from "The collection builds fast… " thread. Tom (I think) made a comment about anti nazi’s being worse than the nazi’s or something like that. Cstokes commented that that was a stupid comment, etc. I figured I’d nip it in the bud.
Lazarus is no mod anymore. Had no time. You can block the category under “Categories”.
Thanks, however as Mark points out might be best to leave everything on view as a mod.
Just a thought Alex, could we have a ‘trade’ sticky for people to do their swapping and trading? or a category?
We already have a category: Acquire Snuff You’re welcome
Indeed…
I would say that the context is very important with throw away or one line comments. My personal view is that this would be allowed unless he started to rant about killing. Given the widespread feeling towards politicians at this point in world history people are making their feelings felt. However given that this is a site about snuff and these OT’s can turn nasty very quickly, I support your actions; someone like Grim (who I personally think is a banning waiting to happen the moment someone says something he doesn’t like) could easily latch on and turn it into something completely wrong. On balance: good call.
I’ve just gone through the whole thread and made my own comments on the debate. I also made a public comment to Pieter as he has re-quoted himself. I can see this being closed in the near future!
I’ve been lurking on the side, I think it was handled well and Pieter wasn’t offended. snuffster, you rounded it off well.
Thanks John, good job all round then.
I think we should keep an eye on the OT- RIP Michael Jackson thread.
I was thinking the same thing.
I was never a fan. But that last comment sucks, as he wasn’t found guilty. Mark it’s 01:43 BST over here and I’m off to bed, you could maybe monitor the thread for a few hours more.
We are all thinking the same thing, Ive just put a gently worded warning on there. I’ll give it a few more minutes but Ill close it at the first sign of argument - this is one that could go nasty very quickly.
Sorry, I get up to start work in about 6 hours. I got about 10 more minutes.
Me too, 0150 in the UK. Ill give it til 0200 or so.
Nigel, I think you are a natural mod. Goodnight from Yorkshire, way past my bedtime.
Goodnight!
Im off to bed. I will be up early so will check on this in a few hours - I would be surprised if its staid peaceful!
I’ll try to keep awake for a little time, I’m retired and don’t need to be up early.
Ill probably be pottering about for another 15 or so.
now Im gone, goodnight
Looks like self-moderation worked? Topic is back to normal and will probably become inactive soon. Tahnks for keeping your eyes open!
Yes, I hovered for a while but it seemed to pass its danger point - and I get to keep my record of zero interventions!
Gone quiet for the last 3 hours.
Hi Martin, we all can’t be here all the time. Anyway I’m sure you did the right thing with Snuffgnugen.
I made it a sink. You did all right.
hydrahead tried to register again: “cause problems and troll”
He may have a short memory and can’t remember if he has joined before, or not. Lol!
A genuine honest to goodness oddball, that one. I think his particular kick is to be forgiven and do it again after things have settled.
BTW, Martin, I think the warning was correct. I had posted a couple of lines earlier saying stay off the thread if people didn’t like it. We have to remember that some people here firmly cling to the belief that they should be able to say anything they want, when they want. They can’t and as we have been made mods we do have to step in sometimes. I think we have a great balance at the moment - I have no worries that any mod wants to throw his weight around for the sake of it.
Well I’m really sorry to hear this Martin. When your health gets back to normal, then I’m sure if you restart the snuff again in moderation and then come back. Wishing you a fast return. John
Martin, no problem. I’ll keep you around as a moderator and thanks for the good work! I wish you all the best for your health. In 20 years from now, people wonder why kicking your own ass is called Snuffboxing all around the world.
Martin Go slowly on this, even if giving up snuff (short or long term) is the thing, you are still a good mod and a valued part of the community. There is nothing to say that you actually need to be snuffing all day every day to participate here! I know that we will all respect your wishes but unless you desperately want to, there is no real need to leave. Don’t forget that the famous 18th Century snuffer Beau Brummell only ever took the odd pinch. He was much more interested in snuff boxes and the art in general than shovelling pounds of the stuff up his nose everyday! Nigel
Anybody knows if Nigel is using another email-address than the Yahoo one? He asked me to help him with his account after the crash, but didn’t respond to my emails.
Hi Alex, He emailed me about a month ago with the > nigelmccarren@yahoo.co.uk < so I could help him post his pictures on this website and he got my replies. Sorry that is the only address I know of. I wonder did you use your .aero address? Because just after this site came back after the crash, I tried to email you via this website and got a message that “there is a delay and your email will be delivered later” then after a day it bounced as not delivered. Anyway I’ll try mailing him from here, funny things happen with email from time to time.
Sorry Alex, I got it bouced:>>>>> 217.12.11.64 failed after I sent the message. Remote host said: 554 delivery error: dd Sorry your message to nigelmccarren@yahoo.co.uk cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. - mta106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com<<<<<
The @alex.aero was delayed or the @snuffhouse.org? I got this one xxx and mailed him from both e-mail accounts. Maybe he is on vacation.
Looks like the address is discontinued. You could try Roderick of Toque, or Tim of SnuffStore UK. They should have a present address.
Hey Guys, finally back - to add to matters my own email was obviously being weird - it is still current and I have no idea what happened to it! Thanks Alex, nice to be back
Nice to have you back Nigel… Check, Send an email to yourself. I think you do have problems there.
Great to have you back! Let the future of Snuffhouse begin.
How many other folks did we loose in the great crash of 09? I noticed it after it had happened as I was distracted with family at the time, I gather we were moving to another server? All very mysterious to someone who can just about use email!
They more or less all came back. I wrote them an email and asked them to re-register what the did without a hassle. The server was brought to a more modern server center, but the guys broke the hardware. My ultra-professional host had only a backup two weeks old. Snuffhouse.org will move to another host in the near future.
All beyond my understanding Alex! Just glad to be back. I had my brother down (who lurks) and I could’nt get in, it was a bit strange being without the site!
Did you guys see Raj’s last comment on “Which Snuffs are easy on the sinuses (no menthol)?” He seems a little angry and anti Toque.
I would like you to keep an eye on it. He might have just overreacted for a moment, but it is still a stupid comment. As long as he doesn’t flame, I have no problem if he leaves it like that (and just that one comment).
I have just deleted his post where he was swearing - I just came across it and thought it unnaceptable. Alex, hope you are ok with that; I deleted it before I read this section and saw that you were not overly concerned with it. Still, my first deletion since I became a mod; I was hoping to never have to do it.
That’s fine.
I just deleted raj’s last comment, an insult to cstockes. I’m on my iPhone right now if anyone can keep an eye out for me!
I’m going out shortly but will be around later this afternoon until about 2000hrs BST. raj’s doesn’t post often, but when he does! I’ll keep an eye out for him later.
Cool, this phone is slow and hard for me to use. I won’t be home in front of me “real” computer til about 9:30.
Raj is the new one to watch I think, I suspect only a matter of time before he goes too far.
Im off for a weeks holiday from Saturday so one less mod around for a while, hope it stays quiet, Nigel
Have a good holiday Nigel… Seems we all missed SnifferSnuffer (new member) creating a bit on the introduce yourself thread. Anyway after a members comments he did edit it. But we’ll have to watch him.
Thanks John, down to Cornwall, so might vicit the Helston shop which has a pretty good selection. I will watch out for sniffer-snuiffer in future though.
Have fun, Nigel!
I will be in Indonesia at the end of September. For about 2 weeks. During this time I will not be able to be online every day, but I’ll do my best. This means I will give you moderators the permission to approve aplicants. I’ll do that in advance, so you can train a little. It’s really easy.
Hi Alex enjoy your trip. I’ll do my best as I’m sure the other moderators will to keep this forum clean while your away.
Enjoy Alex, I hope you have better weather than the trip Ive just been on!
Have fun Alex, i’m here if you need me.
Alex, whats the process for allowing membership?
You’ll see a note at the top of the forum which leads you to the applicants. There they tell you why they want to enter. If it’s spam, I decline. If it seems to be no spam, I approve them.
OK Alex, thanks. Have a great vacation…
Well, it’s still 2 weeks ahead.
You are now able to approve applicants. Wohoo! Everybody who is not a spammer nor crazy is welcome. No problem if someone is searching for tobacco information in general or something else. Please let me know here, if you declined an applicant. Thanks.
there’s one awaiting approval but I’m on my phone can’t really see it to well
Think the main thing is a approve, but and keep track. And decline the obvious spammers. I’m tracking an Alex type right now, lol!
I’m back home now… I couldn’t read the screen too well on my iphone between the glare, the small size and not knowing what I was looking at. If some total nut job gets on, all we can do is delete his comments, right?
Mark, I know how you struggle outdoors. We have been having super weather over here and I find it hard to see the screen while outdoors on my laptop. Yes keep track of new members and delete any crap that should not be on here. Remember Alex will have the final say when he does have the time to check or doings.
This morning I approved a Michael Brummer, aka Red Star he was a member under a different name for a short time a month or so ago. He asked Alex to close his account. He will be OK ermtony told me he got upset with what one of the Americans said to him. A complete misunderstanding due to English and his German.
Just approved “Munichsnuff” He seemed very sincere, 20 years snuffing, etc.
Thanks guys, well done!
Trying our best Alex. Just approved The Pelvin.
And ValerianaAtropa
What appears on the screen - and where - when someone is waiting to join? I’ve not seen anyone yet, although I’ve not been on much the last week due to work.
I’ve approved a few. A link appears on the top of the main page saying there’s a application waiting approval.
ok, thanks
Just thought I better post this, not that there would be any problems if he chose to return to this forum. Snuffbox has another user-name, it’s Dogman.
Thanks. Just jog my memory, was he barred or did he leave of his own accord?
Hi Nigel, No not barred he could not get his own way as a moderator so asked Alex to deactivate his account.
If I remember correctly, he would be able to come back if he wished, just not as a moderator!
Are you getting any problems with the site/net? I keep loosing it?
Not me.
Must be my ancient PC
Funny, I totally anticipated it and I’m surprised it took this long!
I don’t know really… As long as stays civil then it’s interesting and shouldn’t be a problem. Personally I would never start such a thread on a snuff forum.
True, I only meant to say that I personally wouldn’t. Just my opinion! I think there is not even a slight chance that things won’t get nasty. But then again I don’t even say negative things about snuffs i don’t like! Just me, I guess…
I gotta leave and walk a dog, PLAY NICE!!! : )
Thanks mate, must sleep bye for now.
Ive sunk the emphysema thread as several people asked for it. Of course Alex, you may reverse that, but I would be interested to see if things calm down now.
Hi Snuffster! Alex commented on the thread, so he must have read it and left it alone. Also, you should probably close it instead of just sinking it.
Quite prepared to stand up to it if I made a mistake - and if I did apologies. I admit I acted from the various requests on there. I will see if I can re-open then
Done Sorry If I acted too quickly. I will leave this particular thread alone and not get involved.
My personal opinion is that if the conversation gets nasty or has personal attacks, it should be closed. It seemed to me that the discussion was interesting and well balanced. It also seems like there were more pro than con comments. If you read the comments by me above you’ll see I personally wouldn’t start a similar thread. I think being a moderator isn’t about my personal opinion though. Anyway, Alex has the final say! Cheers! Mark
Of course. In any case - for all of us - this is about learning as we go on and I for one have no problem re-visiting a decision if it seems unwise to the group. My only personal motivation in being a mod is to try to keep the site a great place to be, and I certainly don’t have any monopoly on unerringly right decisions - so happy to re-open having read your comments and looked more closely at the thread. And of course Alex was happy with it, I didn’t read his comments thoroughly enough.
Lets not let this cause any division between us. I’m annoyed with myself for acting too quickly on a thread I’d not fully read - my excuse is I was just in from work and should have chilled out a bit before logging on! Won’t happen again. And , yes, Alex is the boss but when he’s not around we are his deputies so a comment from anyone of you will be taken seriously by me. Cheers guys Nigel
So Nigel, when are you gonna get an icon?
Ah, you know I am such an IT dummy I woudn’t even know how to. I did try to post a black dog on there from Googl;e images but got bored in the attempt…
send me a link to a pic (as small as possible) you like and i’ll post it on one of my sites and give you the link. I “made” Roderick"s, Mr. snuff"s and one other, I forget who.
thanks, but you would even have to tell me how to send a link. All I can do really is the most basic emails and specialist systems at work that dont involve any of this kind of stuff. I did say I was a dummy!
Guys, there is a new member waiting, Kruise. His reasons to join are simply ‘find family’. I’ve emailed him for some more detail. Can he be kept there until I get a response please
Nigel that’s good thinking, I almost declined him, A spammer I bet.
I saw him and didn’t approve him as well. Waiting for a response is a good idea I think.
Did you guys see the newest one? “For free samples and coupons” I have NO idea what to make of that!
Name “Tereasa” Just Declined Her? It? Defiantly a spammer.
No argument from me! I can’t believe people aren’t smart enough to at least make up something good!
Best wishes Martin.
Ya, Best wishes and I do hope your health improves.
I’ve declined Kruise - gave him two days to make some sense and nothing back so I’m afraid in my book ‘find family’ just sounds too much like Hydrahead or someone. Best wishes Martin.
That should be OK, you would expect an email returned if it was a snuffer.
I’m definitely not approving that fletchchristian, what do you guys think?
Just email’d fletchristian for more detail before approving.
I just approved Kiestraak with a gmail account. Please keep a close eye on him/her as the reason to join was “I love Snuff” It could be Hydrahead! as it was his reason for wanting to come back. I thought it best to give benefit of doubt. Not had email back from flechchristian as yet.
Still no reply to my email to fletchristian. If no word by tomorrow mid morning I’ll turn him down. if no objections.
Sounds right to me.
Guys Hope this is ok by you, I just logged on after a manic period at work and saw the FletcherChristian thing, given his ridiculous reason for joining as ‘yes’ I declined him as I thought he was an obvious spammer. Please accept my apologies for not checking here first - clearly if he gets back and makes sense that decision can be revisited. Just so we don’t step on each others toes ( as I was worried I have just done!) can I suggest the following, subject to Alex’s agreement of course: if a prospective member does not make sense we just decline. The membership application asks a very simple ‘why do you want to join’ type question; if the reply is just something like ‘yes’ or some other thing that doesn’t mean anything then I think we either have a spammer, loony or computer. Any genuine snuffer would happily give a sensible reply. I will of course follow the feelings of the group. Very best wishes Nigel
I kind of like snuffhead’s idea of emailing them and giving them a chance to say something intelligent.
Well I will go with that if its the consensus; my take is that propsective members should give us a serious response in the first place without us having to email etc.
Nigel, you done; it but no problems, as I was about to cut him off in a few hours anyway. But can I say this:- When you see the banner that a new member requests to join, then hit the discussions button, then to this Moderators thread. to see if we have any hunches, and other information.
Point taken, apologies.
No apologies needed Nigel. But I think this way will work better. My regards, John
Thanks mate.
And moving swiftly on…veritablefeast is waiting to join, expressing interest in what Stitch is doing, seems reasonable so I will approve.
Alex the What’s in your nose #3 was getting slow so I closed it and created What’s in your nose #4. Will you make that a sticky. Hope you don’t mind.
New Applicant ‘oldpunker’ I’m wondering if there was a reason it didn’t stick. Think I’ll leave this to Alex to decide.
Back after a week away; any news?
Been quiet here Nigel, as it should be
Excellent
The one waiting states she wants to be a member to ‘get great deals on garrett snuff’, sound a little weird to me. My inclination is to bin her - any thoughts? After consideration I’m not keen on emailng people or chasing them up too much - if they can’t give a sensible response to the simple question asked on the application screen Im not sure we want em? Tell me if Im being too hard!
I wonder if we should have a sticky on the top of the screen with something ‘Read this if you want to join’ as the heading. It could maybe give a little bit of guidance to people about to apply; like don’t put nonsensical stuff on the form as we will just assume you are spammers? I nearly did this a few minutes ago but its rightly down to Alex of he wants that sort of thing. Hey Alex, how was you holiday?
I saw that one too and passed it by. I figure we can approve the “good” ones and the others can wait for Alex.
You may have a point there. In any case, I don’t know if Alex intends to keep us on in this role; my impression was that it was only to cover his vacation?
I think that was originally the plan. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, imo.
Juss approved two reasonable ones. If no one has any issues I will dump the one after ‘great deals on snuff’ later today.
Hi, I too think this one is dodgy too best leave it for Alex. Snufster you do have a point about emailing them as you could get the spam. I use a throw away address, but it means wasting one.
Ill get rid of this one and take the chance that Alex would agree; Alex - ‘To get great deals on snuff’ sounds spammy enough for me, hope thats ok
Good idea to leave the ‘mysterious’ ones to me. I think you are all doing a great job and would like to keep your roles like that. My trip was great and I am already looking forward to the next trip to Jakarta.
Hi guys. I’ll be on "holiday’ this weekend. I’ll probably check in occasionally on my Iphone to keep the unread threads from building up, but that’s about it. This is my once a year weekend getaway in Sebastian, Fl. (about 20 minutes from where nic rush Tom lives) If your interested, the place I go every year is www.hirams.com. It’s about a 2 1/2 hour drive from where i live. I hope to someday have a “snuff meetup” there! Unfortunately Tom is out of town this weekend, i would have liked to have met him. Take care and have a nice weekend! Mark
Hi Mark have a good holiday. Your link to your place didn’t work by the way. I found you had added a period after the com so here it is for others www.hirams.com It looks so nice and a change from damp cold Hull UK, as it is today.
Thanks snuffhead, I didn’t actually make a link as i don’t know how!
Thanks MM. I think I already told you guys this but… I spent a month in England in December once… Actually it was only 4 days, it just seemed like a month!! JUST KIDDING! It was very actually enjoyable spending time in the local pub, everyone treated me so well, asking me questions, etc. I was quite the novelty I guess. (I was in Nottigham.) The girl that I went to visit broke up with me the second day of what was supposed to be a month long visit. Besides that tho…!! Between changing money to pounds, then back to dollars and a new last minute return ticket, the 4 days cost me about $5000.00. That was almost 20 years ago and I still cringe when I hear a female British accent! As far as Sebastian goes, it’s a very small town, basically a fishing village. Like I always tell people, there’s only two things to do in Sebastian, fish and drink… And I don’t fish!!!
Lol, I suppose its hard to get over memories like that! You won’t find many Americans in Nottingham thats for sure. Have a great trip in any case!
Another odd one… reason “freebie” I left it alone.
Leave that one for Alex
Looks like someone either approved or denied it.
Denied it.
Hi Alex. There’s a couple threads that could be stickly-ed or un sticky-ed.
Just to codify our working practices here: Non contentious, ordinary folks who want to join because they give sensible reasons: the mod dealing agrees. Anything weird, spammy or whatever is left to Alex. If I get one that seems perfectly decent is everybody happy that I just go along and accept without further ado?
I hope that’s the plan, I’ve approved dozens already that seemed normal.
ok cool
That’s fine, yes.
@miamimark: Could you give me some hints?
Oh, Sorry Alex! “What’s in your mailbox” should be un sticky-ed and “what’s in your mailbox 2” should be sticky-ed.
Thanks, done.
Thanks! That thread was getting too slow! It’s been suggested we “sticky” the snuff pictures thread as well. I personally like the idea.
This would make too much stickies, I think. Lets see how popular it gets.
Just approved the ‘Huckster’ reason - to learn more about snuff and be part of this great community.
theres another ‘to receive great offers on camel snuff’ we’ve had a few like that so am just declining
Chef Daniel - loved snuff for 35 years - approved.
Could I suggest that OT Political and religious threads be banned, as opposed to just monitored? My view is that they add nothing whilst always having the potential to explode. The current ‘Overview of America’ has not exploded but is lighlty smouldering. I know the management spirit has been one of tolerance unless problems but on these two issues I wonder whether a simple and outright ban would save bad feelings and the need for moderation in the long run. Obviously, a policy statment like this should come from Alex, but more than happy to assist with draughting something Alex if you don’t have time and there is agreement. If not an outright ban I would still issue some kind of clear policy direction. Any thoughts?
I understand your point completely but personally I could go either way. I’ve learned a lot from this forum besides about snuff. To have access to peoples opinions from all over the world is fascinating to me. Anyway, whatever Alex decides is fine with me, of course! : )
I have to agree with Snuffster, when I so the Overview America thread. Then my thoughts where; It’s something waiting to happen. Apart from monitoring it, I’m keeping well clear.
Closed it.
My point in terms of snuffhouse would be don’t get the concept of free speech mixed up with the website. If we were to permanently ban religious/political threads we would just be saying this is not the place for it rather than trying to supress folks right’s. If you think about it we do that plenty of times in our private lives anyway - there are occasions when you just want to get away from the grit of life. Religion and Politics always cause problems in the end and are best left in their proper places - and I say this as a practising Roman Catholic. I just think we are better without those topics.
Don’t knock yourself on this, its a good thing to want to give people the chance and be concerned, and its not your failing. But really, this rule should apply all the time whether your having a meal with your family or posting here - religion and politics just end in arguments that can’t be solved. We’ve staid clear of these topics in my family for years as we are all feisty buggers and its just best left alone!
I noticed his sarcastic remark. Best to ignore it, anyway he can go to another forum for politics and religion and talk snuff on here.
I don’t think we should get involved in any long arguments with members about this - it will turn into the usual circular tirade. I suggest a simple statement from Alex that we don’t have religious or political threads. I would also like some robust monitoring at religious festival times - like being able to say ‘Happy Christmas or Eid’ or whatever without a load of anti stuff coming back. Might sound like Im going over the top but a couple of Xmas’s ago a simple ‘happy xmas’ from someone turned into quite a nasty thread. Theses suggestions are purely because I love this site and want it to stay as it is, we are getting loads of new members some of whom will stay for 5 minutes and not really care what they say. Please, please rest assured I’m not trying to take over these are just ‘in my humble opinion’ suggestions. Nigel
Thanks Martin. I think whatever happens we have an excellent group of moderators to deal with any issues. I am not suggesting that there is any crisis here either, just planning ahead a little.
Any views on the ‘Economy’ thread? Complaints on the last post by Satyr about the ‘sensorship’. I started to write something then thought better about it and didn’t. I really think its time for some kind of policy on this kind of stuff. This is a site about snuff and it seems that it is starting to get a bit highjacked and there are maybe a couple of members we could do without.
Im going very cautiously on this pending Alex’s views, but if it starts getting out of hand it should go the same way as the political thread about the US.
Ive just closed ‘Glee’. Rambling political thread.
I think it had folded up anyway. Pieter put the finishing touches to it. Must admit I don’t know what they where on about either.
I’m not sure they did…
we have to remember that this is a site dedicated to snuff and snuff users. It’s natural that people will want to pass opinions backwards and forwards in OT posts, but it just seems that at the moment there appears to be alot of political posts. Repeating myself, that this is about snuff first and foremost, I think we need to just be aware of where our focus is. I think Alex may be away at the moment so we need to look after the shop. Best wishes buddy Nigel
Still here checking by at least once a day. Looks like you don’t really need me.
Hi Alex We always need you but if you are happy with our decisions and how we run the place when you are away thats great. I’m more than happy with my role and think we have an excellent level headed team here. By the way, BigBlue asked why I closed the discussion and I just explained that this is a snuff site and we have to close off long political OT’s as they are best suited elsewhere on the net. Nigel
Sounds great, Nigel.
I think that the best thing (for me) is to bring my concerns to this thread so Alex can “check in” without reading every single thread every day. I personally don’t like closing threads that are marginal or subject to opinion. Having said that i will always back up decisions made by the other mods. I mostly look out for obvious trolls and such. i do wish we could cancel or suspend accounts in that type of situation. The last time we had a obvious troll I couldn’t keep up with him, deleting his comments, and I had to leave while it was still going on. Oh well, it happens so rarely i guess it’s not really an issue.
Just addmitted henny His reason:- “I tried to stop smoking by using snuff and bought £100 of the stuff and i could not get on with it so i want to sell it and thought i could possibly sell it through this forum. Thanks Gary” Don’t think he’ll be around long!
Yea, I passed that one by! Seems too “commercial” for me. No interest in snuff, just trying to make a buck On second thought, as long as one of our members benefits, it’s all good!
Quote Mark “as long as one of our members benefits, it’s all good!” That’s what I thought.
Anyone else noticing VERY VERY slow page reloads? It doesn’t happen all the time but sometimes it takes forever, some times not. It’s been going on for days but I’m not sure that it’s not my computer or connection.
Yes to the slow pages, I was about to ask the same question. Sometimes they don’t open and I have to leave the site and come back which seems to cure it. With regards closing threads - I thought long and hard before closing ‘Glee’ but I could just see it sparking off, it’s almost as though it was posted for that reason. In actual fact my wife was looking over my shoulder at the time and asked who the hell I thought I was telling people what they can discuss!! I suppose I come back, whenever I think about it, to the fact that this is a snuff website not a political one. If other mods disagreed I would readily re-visit. But, decision making can be tough and Im happy to be gaining experience in this role with such a good team.
Page loads faster now?
Right now they’re loading fast again. It was always intermittent though…
Please let me know how it feels the next two days or so. I deactivated an extension so it might run faster from now on.
So far a great improvement Alex.
50% quicker for me
In fact its the quickest its ever been
Same here… I should have mentioned this days ago!
With regards Mark’s comment about being able to suspend an acccount; I fully agree. I think the problem lies in the fact that we would then have admin status - which is probably not what Alex wants as that really is the prerogative of the owner. From what I know it’s a problem that is next to or even impossible to solve.
Guys - I consider this as a serious issue - Onefortheroad is offering tiger bone snuff spoons that he has obtained from china to go with his latest snuff box. There are mixed comments on there and my instinct was to close the thread without further ado. I would like this thread closed as to be perfectly honest it makes me sick to my stomach. I have however, refrained from doing so until I have some feedback from you gents. I am not a rabid animal rights crusader but I really think this seriously demeans our site. Can I have your views please?
Done. The thing that saddens me are remarks like ‘I don’t care if a Tiger was hurt or not’ Disgusting. Alex, I closed the thread as my quick bit of Google research indicates that the buying and selling of any Tiger parts is illegal in Chinese and International law and as such we could not carry a thread with an offer of tiger bone snuff-spoons on this website. I suggested that if he apply to you should he wish to contest that. I would ask, also, that you read the thread.
Thanks for closing. I will make up my mind about yiu being able to close accounts.
Ok. I feel uneasy about asking for that and in my view it would be for one scenario only - a full scale attack on the site by someone posting porn etc and ONLY if we couldn’t raise you on the phone. I am just as happy not to be given it; just dread the loony attack.
Read through that thread this morning. Didn’t see it first hand. Pleased that it’s closed and sinking.
Just been thinking; How about any member wanting to sell on SnuffHouse needs permission say, from Alex first. Dealers in the left sidebar accepted. Then again it adds to his workload. By the way henny, who wanted to sell his £100 snuff collection 2 days ago has not visited so far.
I keep going back and forth on the issue of people selling stuff on SH. On one hand, the sponsors pay to be listed on this site and I think I would be miffed if someone was undercutting my prices selling “second hand” snuff regularly. On the other hand, why not! If a member wants to buy snuff from someone that doesn’t want it, so be it! Personally I would give away or trade, but that’s me. I guess the difference would be if someone was selling snuff or snuff related products for a profit. I remember when Tom (bakdoor) was shamelessly promoting his shop. Now he has a banner and I think that’s the appropriate way to go.
Occasional advertising is fine. If it is getting too much, I will ask for a banner fee.
I did find it massively weird and was also surprised ( and a little dissapointed ) that Patrick - who openly stated in not so many words that he had no idea where the stuff came from - seemed to think it was fine. It was strange that because it was supposed to be 30 years old that it was supposed to be ok, but even that was taking his word from someone he openly admited he could not have any dialogue with. I guess he’s gone to some expense and is hiding from the facts - it’s the only explanation I can think of. I was pretty disgusted that the member ‘snuffy’ stated he couldn’t care less if a tiger was hurt or not. I think its a shameful business and I’m interested to see if NicotineRush stock them. For the record I’ve emailed him and asked him not too; for what ever good that will do when money is involved. I think that selling stuff on the site raises a larger issue. The membership has grown greatly, mostly it seems via the US and I would guess mostly the younger end are waking up to snuff and the site. A lot of those are just passing through and are from the larger internet world of not many rules, cussin and swearing and the rest. In essence we are looking at demograohic change and it may be that we need in the near future - if not now - some clearer guidelines on what members can and can not do. In the last few weeks we’ve had rambling political threads closed down, by Alex and myself, this Tiger bone business and now people asking to join to offload snuff they don’t want. Alex, this is your site and what you say goes, period. But it might be helpful - especially when you are away - if you could put a few policy points down in print so your moderators can make the same decisions you would make. I’m not suggesting a mods guidebook because I trust this team to do a good job, just your thoughts on whats ok and what isn’t at this time.
FNG? what does that mean?
Googled FNG = Fu****g New Guy is one meaning. It never came up on my window so someone’s accepted him, or chucked him out.
Alex, thanks for the guide. Having read that and given we now have a couple of ways of contacting you I don’t feel we need any more powers than we already have. As the owner the admin capacity should rightly rest with you alone. Unless you are going to be away from IT for long periods at a time I say we leave it at that.
More charm from BigBlue, yet another individual that can’t debate anything without cursing and swearing. I have asked Alex to consider banning him - until such time as that decision is made could you keep a watch ''And if in good conscience you can still say that The Glee thread was closed for good reason. Yeah folks I haven’t posted since that day in my own silent protest. But this is just too rich. I guess this has become the place where if the mods have vested interest in keeping a thread open than we keep it open forever, even if it is a shit fuck thread… ‘’ There seems to be no purpose in keeping this open, so in line with the newly published directions I am closing it.
I read BigBlues comments, and I too think he’s pushing it.
Thanks for your whisper John, I wasn’t aware. Sorry, can you clarify ‘test, sign out etc’ at the end of your message?
I just edited that whisper. Try to explain better. If you sign out (top right-hand corner) If you then close your browser and then go back to this forum, click discussions without signing in. This and Alex’s new thread aren’t visible.
Got ya now John. My main issue with BigBlue - in common with I think quite a few members now is that its straight to effing and blinding at the merest hint of disagreement. I am no angel and have sworn a couple of times on the site but for some its seems the only way of debate,
What was it he did to you moses?
Not a nice guy, hopefully Alex will heed my request.
Let’s keep an eye on bigblue. Please let me know if he does ‘it’ again.
I don’t want to make an unneccessarily big deal about this but we shouldn’t allow the belief to grow up that its ok to abuse the mods for doing their jobs. Im pretty tired of the way that people immediately become foul mouthed at the least provocation. If you are not going to ban him on this occasion then, with respect, I would caution that he is not allowed a second ‘offence’.
I whispered him to keep it down and let us do our jobs.
Hi All, I’m ready for my sleep. Please watch ibild on his ‘OT’ new thread.
Alex, Ibilds new thread is clearly aimed at me and is along the lines of the other recent complaints against moderation. I have either got the balance wrong in my own actions or you need to remove a couple of people from the forum, but there seems to be a growing groundswell against us/me. If it is me, then I unhesitatingly offer to step down as a mod.
I am waiting for an answer from bigblue1 and ibild. If they are not able to accept my latest statement in the OT discussion, I help them leave. Is that ok for everybody?
OK with me Alex.
I trust your judgement, any decision you make is fine by me.
Even without a sink. Let’s hope that’s it for this year.
I think their animosity is aimed mostly at me. Maybe I have been too rigid in what I see as right and wrong or unacceptable. I haven’t meant to be over the top and I have always had what I considered to be the interests of the site at heart. But If I have got the balance wrong I truly apologise and if my continued presence as a mod is not right for the site I will revert, without any ill feeling, to non moderator status. What I don’t want is a damging situation because of me.
Martin beat me, I was just gonna say we’re not going to Snuffbox you Nigel, chin up, your a big chap.
I was gonna say the same thing!!
Snuffster, I won’t let you go so easy.
Thanks guys, God bless
Can someone have a look at ‘real mans snuff’’ and watch the link. According to Alex’s rules its seems like it should be a close, but Iwouldrather its a consensus if it is.
Nigel I did see the thread, I can’t go to the link at this time because I’m uploading a video and don’t want to crash. I’ll have a look when I can. Suppose we better watch out for comments that may come later!
Gone to that link on “real mans snuff”, At time of posting this. That post is 7 hours old and so far not one comment. I think it’s OK, it’s a daft video I would just give a 3 second view, not my humour. But we better watch out for any comments if any do appear!
The video seems too silly to bother with to me.
It doesn’t bother me as it stands, and I think we can leave alone unless it turns into some rabid druggy thing, just thought I’d check in with you.
It’s making fun of drugs. No problem.
Agreed.
Just declined Flyhy, Reason wanting to join? To Post Ads!
Honest, LOL! wonder what adverts?
Ive put a post on there myself, please read. I think we should close this in the near future. At this moment in time its not too bad but if it starts getting into descriptions of how to prepare drugs it has to end, I would suggest by Alex??
jco approved =- loves snuff and wants to consult the experts!!
I made it a sink.
Good move, thanks Alex
This question is being asked on another thread: Why is the “Snuff trades, offers, and requests” thread not a sticky? Just wanted to let you know, Alex…
Too much stickies, I guess.
No, sorry.
Just approved Ukicemom, a sensible paragraph about wanting to learn more about snuff, probably the most lucid that I’ve had to date.
me signing out at 0300, all quiet.
Approved asnyder - ‘I like snuff’.
Approved Ufizwit - ‘taken snuff for 40 years’
OT and so far okay, I guess.
Yea, I passed them by too… they’re probably OK but I’ll let Alex or someone else get them.
Approved them.
site very slow again
Yes, unbearably slow…
Seems to have got worse now.
I’ll take care of it.
We are back to normal. The database server was overloaded.
Im in and out at the moment, work, flu, family, however things seems quiet enough at the moment.
Everything is fine here.
Hi Alex, we have Kitchen boy wanting to join us with just a ‘Yes’ I’ll leave it to you to decide!
Declined. Thanks.
hrolf - ‘info’ Im not approving - your decision Alex. For future do you want us to continue passing applicants like this to you or would you prefer we just make the decision?
I passed that one by as well. Perhaps you could unsticky “what’s in your nose #4” and sticky #5, Alex?
I like how you deal with new applicants and would like to keep it up to you to approve them. I can step in if you are not sure wether to decline them or not. Made #5 sticky.
My take on this is, If an applicant can only offer one word to the question - Why do you wish to join this forum, then he’s not going to provide much input, or probably just mess around.
Thanks Alex, thats makes sense - any real weird ones to you. But I think for the most time - like snuffhead says - these one word applicants can be just declined. A genuine snuffer with interest would have lurked beforehand and would want to get in so would give more than ‘yes’ or any of the other one liners we’ve had. Well - it’s been a standard year at Snuffhouse! The arguments, the trolls and the little temper flare ups; but far, far more than that: a great site where I meet people I am glad to call my friends. So to Alex - thanks for a great site, and the rest of you; surely the nicest and most gentlemanly bunch of mods on any site, anywhere; it’s been a real pleasure. Here’s to all the best to you and your families this Christmas - and I hope you won’t object if this old Catholic snuffer says ‘Christ’‘s Love to you all’ Nigel
@ Alex, and all mods. I wish you all a very merry Christmas, and all you wish for your self for the coming New Year, John
joylyn46 16 hours ago floridaladylynn@yahoo.com i am a user of snuff and would like great deals. This one? As No one else as done anything I’m declining her hoping I made the right decision.
Great deals and free lids. I have no idea where that comes from.
Lol! I could never understand the free lids.
I agree, I don’t like the ‘great deals’ types that we get from time to time. What on Earth are they on about?
Everyone OK? I’ve been off the site for a week due to ridiculous working hours - working and sleeping, not much else . Seems to be no issues though.
Yes, everything is fine here.
Good, that’s how we like it
Did you guys see the pending app? I’m not touching that one!! : )
How are you all guys?
I’m fine Nigel, and you?
All’s well here in Miami! Getting ready to have a superbowl party. Big event here in the states, I’m sure you guys know that. I’m on almost all the time, just so you guys know, don’t post that often though…
All well with me, manic at work at the moment but still trying to get on as much as I can.
And have a GREAT SUPERBOWL!!
Thanks! Not a huge football fan but it should be a good party.
Just lose yourself in beer!
I’ve seen a few applicants saying ‘to buy snus’ or ‘to learn about snus’. I decline these as they obviously don’t get what we are about here.
I’m also fine.
Just declined:- rednite 4 hours ago rex_stevens2001@yahoo.com Reason to join us. > personel entertainment
I would have declined that too. Hi Alex.
Alex, could you make ‘information for new members’ a sticky? Gives good advice about searches etc and might reduce repetitative questions.
Just deleted a comment on the ‘faces of snuffhouse members’ - someone rambling on about drug dealers, by his own admission he was drunk when writing it.
Maybe keep an eye on ‘Cops and snuff’. Ok at the moment but could easily boil over.
Made it a sticky. Great idea! And thanks for keeping track of bad comments.
thanks Alex
Guys, can we agree to close all new threads where people are asking any of the questions in Cstokes new sticky? So for example ‘anyone know where I can buy snuff in…’ would be closed with a note - ‘see sticky’ Good/bad idea??
That’s OK with me, I closed and sunk that one about the guy asking where he could get snuff in Frisco Bay.
That’s fine with me. I’ll close the sticky, so it keeps “clean”, too.
Quote Alex “That’s fine with me. I’ll close the sticky, so it keeps “clean”, too.”
I was going to suggest that Alex, but downloaded M$ updates that pear shaped my computers
All seems OK now.
al quiet at the moment.
Just approved johnmack and jayel. Both gave sensible answers to the entry question.
I’ve just closed ‘cant quit tobacco’ as it was turning into a cut and paste from the web debate. I’ve also warned ‘noob’ for swearing.
Lots of new members asking the same questions - I am routinely directing them to the search facility and snuffreviews.com and closing the threads.
Just declined duckshine Reason request to join was a one word’er:- Information!
And I will also continue to decline those, good call. Otherwise we will end up with a massive membership of spammers.
Declined jamiethemorris, reason. Just “ewr”
Yes ewr! Am I missing out on something?
He (or she) probably assumed it was an automated approval type of thing and just hit a couple keys to fill in the blank.
That must be it Mark.
We had half a dozen PACT threads running, all saying the same things, I’ve closed and sunk them leaving one open for the discussion.
Great, thanks!
Guys? Am I missing something?
Martin, I did think deeply before reopening that OT subject. I thought members could have a say in if they thought that it had gone one too long and as OT it was taking up bandwidth.
It was in no way my intention to cross with you, especially a fellow mod. OK, thinking about it now, perhaps it would have been better to have whispered you first with my intentions.
Lol! lets just say it’s passed. We’ll move on, you have the right to stand by your opinion.
There’s some sarcastic stuff going on beacuse I closed the pact threads, with bigblue starting a thread called ‘I love pact threads’ My intention was just to bring it all together in one place, some of these people are just idiots. Alex, Cstokes has asked if he can become a mod, I would second that as he seems sensible.
Let’s ignore these threads and they will be gone soon.
Agree, defiantly one to watch.
Whistlrr seems an angry individual, I don’t think he’s posted anything yet that just reflects the pleasure of the hobby. I give you even odds he’s a future problem.
I hate to admit it but I can’t get through his long winded posts! I start to read them and my mind goes numb. I’ll start paying more attention tho!
I closed the tibetian discussion.
Actually, he wanted it to be closed.
@ Alex, So strange. But if that was the case I think you should go back to your post on there and edit it saying ‘Subject closed by the request of World’s Best Snuff’. That way all the members would know he’s from another planet, LOL!
He is a strange one, no doubt about that. I couldn’t help thinking there was something ‘behind’ that post, like saying he could get it but asking if we could, also wanting sales figures and generally being mysterious. In a whispered conversation with Roderick last year sometime, he said that Namrata has a couple of alias accounts here that she uses to disparage Toque products. Now I have no idea of the truth of that - and don’t really care as long as people stay in the bounds of decency and civility - but I wonder if something like that was going on here? (in the sense of someone fishing for info) I’m off work with a bad back at the moment so might be letting my bored mind run away with itself though!
Nigel, sorry to hear about your back. Quote; “In a whispered conversation with Roderick last year sometime, he said that Namrata has a couple of alias accounts here that she uses to disparage Toque products.” I’m sure Alex can check out the IP address of that strange poster and see if it does relate to India.
Thanks mate, an old policing injury that flares up fairly regularly. I hasten to add I mentioned the Roderick comment purely for the moderator team’s information, I have no grounds for suspicion or the slightest desire to cast aspersions on Roderick or Namrata, just mentioned as it may be worth knowing. I would be interested to hear where the IP relates to though, the author didn’t strike me as using English as a first langauage. Maybe wrong of course…my wife (a Londoner) says pretty much the same about me.
‘To place an order’ -where do these people come from?
Thankyou for your words Alex.
If anyone’s out there, help! I gotta leave for a while. The pact update thread is getting nasty between cstokes and whisler. I deleted one comment so far but I gotta go walk a dog.
Yeah, I can never read one of whistler’s posts all the way through, my mind go blank. I’ve seen this coming for a while. Oh well, hopefully all’s well.
Thank you guys. You are doing a great job!
Alex, I personally think that Whistlrr and Big Blue should be banned - they just create disharmony. I think the site would be a much nicer and friendlier place without them.
Haha, new applicant’s answer… “Don’t know” I don’t know either…
Lets have an eye on them. Next time they get rude, we’ll take care. Fine?
Thanks Alex. Been off line all week due to IT problems - anything going on?
I think we need to watch Geraldo,who seems like a possible spammer. On the introduce yourself thread he more or less wrote an essay on one of the posts. I really think we need some kind of ruling about these vast posts that are clearly cut and paste from the internet. No one will ever read them, they take up space and are rarely about snuff.
Been following the Introduce Yourself thread and read, or should I say skipped through the copy & pasting of Geraldo, I left i to the others to decide if it was worth reading? But one thing for sure Big Blue1 should go.
Even I’m starting to think BB1 should be banned. At least no one’s taking the bait and escalating it. I still think it’s Alex’s decision, not ours.
I was kind of waiting to hear from Snuffster or Alex, to see what their thoughts were.
Good you please give me 2 or 3 links to problematic comments by BigBlue1?
Hi Alex, It was on the “Introduce Yourself” Thread Link After snuffster’s post #1572, but he or one of the other mods has now deleted it. I think you can still get access to it
bigblue1 was active 3 hours ago, he could have had second thoughts and deleted it himself.
I didn’t delete it either.
Nor me, and it wasn’t snuffster as he was last active one day ago. Yes Martin, that Shaman is strange, I’ve seen a few of his posting, lets keep our eyes out.
Users can’t delete their own comments. It must have been a mod. No problem so far.
I think most members know you can edit a comment and “whisper” it to yourself.
He made it a whisper to himself, right. If that’s his reaction on critique from us, it’s fine with me. Let’s whatch him.
I am away for two or three days. See you next week, guys!
Hi Alex, if it’s for business, or pleasure have a good trip. I promise that I wont cross with “whistlrr” As Administrator, you must have access to opening the whispers on that thread, you will find some members wanting her banned, and then my reactions! My regards, John
On national radio a female DJ said “In the next sixty min. you can ask me anything” Someone emailed her, asking if she shaved! Her answer was “That would be telling, I don’t look like a baby, perhaps I have a landing strip” That was as I was reading the thread on here. I lol! ask the same question and get hear/eye ache. I’ve had quiet a few whispers and emails from members on here asking her to be banned, and I’ve answered saying as it was me who wound here up I would not recommend it right now. I promised Alex that I wont cross with her again, life is to short to read her posting anyway LOL!
My feeling about this site is that the original ‘Gentleman’s Club’ aspect has almost entirely evaporated, which is a vast shame because it seemed for a period that it was the single place on the net where manners prevailed. Now we routinely tolerate the ignorant and unpleasant. I’m afraid that we just allow people too much latitude; we should ban anyone who causes disharmony, period. Why can this not remain the one place on the web where standards prevail the whole of the time? I asked ‘Geraldo’ in a whisper to leave off the massive cut and paste jobs and remember it was a snuff site and got one back saying his post was not for ‘stupid men’. Now apparently the obnoxious BigBlue is back on form - I have no idea what he has said and don’t intend to look as I just find myself losing interest. Alex, my friend, unless you start ditching some of these chracters you will find more genuine members dropping out. It’s been remarked by a few people, and is true, that members in effect seem to have a site ‘lifespan’ - you don’t get many staying past a year. Now there are simple reasons for that I’m sure but I wonder if its also that people lose a bit of heart? I’m not making any goodbye speeches here but I have to be honest and say I am getting less and less inclined to log on; my spare time is just too precious to spend it in cyberspace with idiots.
I, personally, ignore the idiots out there. I am making up my mind about the future of Snuffhouse since some months. So far, I haven’t found a real solution. Please give me some more time. I guess that I will come up with an idea this summer. On the one hand, I don’t want to let Snuffhouse die. On the other hand, I don’t want to get involved too deeply in moderating comments that I don’t like. Thanks for the open words. I really appreciate that.
Well, nothing lasts forever. My feeling is that Snuffhouse has run its course in its current form and I don’t blame you Alex for weighing up what the future holds. For myself, I think this has been an exceptional site but was destined to develop in a certain way as soon as the membership reached a certain point - maybe the way a village turns into a town and then a city. I expect my own participation will be somewhat less than in the past: I would have no problems if you wanted to take me off the mod list in favour of someone more active?
Nothing ominous. I just feel that we need some fresh stuff to keep it intersting for the older members. Snuffster, I will keep you as a mod as long as you don’t beg me to take you off. Active or inactive.
Ok Alex, Ill still be around, let see how things go I guess!
Just had 4 applicants, all with different names, two giving one long introductory answer, 2 another identical one, all from the same IP. Figured we had enough spammers and robots, so declined.
Well done. Thanks.
Please watch the Cancer Warning thread, it could get nasty. Below is a remark from nasalgent directed at Pieter Claasson:- “Ya, I imagine that would be disturbing if your country that your ancestors founded and built, was turned on its ear because of political scrutiny from the U.N (United States Nation). Then even more disturbing would be a much more oppressive regime taking over, making you a second class citizen, allowed to call you whatever they want, a ridiculous employment and social assistance disparity. Then to top it all off they sing a song with some rubbish instruments about killing you and your family(Boers) IN PARLIAMENT. The thing that must be lacking in SA is something called a 2 way street. I’ll take a snuff for all the repressed in SA now, cha cha cha cheers.”
I was going to delete that post by nasalgent, but reading the full thread I think Pieter brought it all on himself.
Pieter is another one that can be very strange out of the blue. He seems less jovial and ‘I love everyone’ than before.
I don’t know what to make of “Liang’s” application!
Could be genuine 因为我喜欢鼻烟 translates to “Because I like the nose smoke” But no use on here is he/she can’t type Roman, LOL! Lets leave it for Alex’s decision.
Lets see what he has to say.
I didn’t approve diane… . “for free stuff” Funny I think.
Hope I didn’t jump the gun, just blown her away.
That’s fine. Looks like she was lost.
I’ve just sunk the “Wanted Feebees” thread, it’s not about nasal snuff anyway.
Hi Alex, A new member “brianwalkertown” started two threads; 1-Wanted freebee’s, then; 2- Printable coupons" Both are begging postings. some regular members didn’t like this so now I have deleted, his post and the replies. Also closed the treads. I’m sure that he is just a 'Free-loader, beggar. As Admin you can read them. I’m hoping I did right and you could delete both threads.
Sounds like a good call, this is clearly not the site for that type of thing. Just approved ‘Scott’ and ‘Phager’ who both give sensible responses to the joining question.
My fault, I should have held off on approving “brianwalkertown”. I don’t remember his exact reason for joining but he did mention looking for good deals or something like that. Sorry! I’ll be more careful in the future! : )
Don’t blame yourself Mark. No one knows how a new member will turn out.
I just feel that people like him spoil it for genuine snuff/dip, or what ever users who want to try a product. Firms that will supply samples will soon stop if they get these just begging freebee’s.
To snuffster thanks for the backup, one member who whispered his disgust to me said the forum could get like some snus forum. As snuff is the only form of tobacco I take, then I have not been to any of the other sites.
No problem, my sentiments exactly. Don’t worry Mark, we make decisions based on the response to one question - some idiots will always get through.
All fine with me. Thanks guys!
brianwalkertown (Member) Account Created 3 days ago Last Active 3 days ago Visit Count 2 Discussions Created 2 Comments Added 0 Seems he came back a little later to see what was said, and didn’t like what some members thought about him, and hopefully he’s now gone for good.
What was he saying on the threads exactly?
Basically just looking for freebies, he had nothing else to say. If I remember correctly he was more interested in snus than snuff.
Yes, it was snus he was after, he got his bum kicked by some members for not putting it OT, and is freebees all you come on here for. After a few whispers I decided to delete and close the threads. He’s not been back since, he’s gone…
Right. I’m surpised the idiot bigblue didn’t start something up - he usually does when we close something (or maybe its just me). Good work. All seems quiet at the moment.
Yes. Good work!
Ive had a complaint from Bob re BradMjaors. Having read the comments it was the usual mannerless sarcasm that we get nowadays, I didn’t take any action but yet again, one to watch. I think our party line with respect to indivdual complaints brought to our attention should be to refer the complainant to Alex for him to monitor. Warnings from us, as experience shows, don’t do much and we have no ultimate sanction. Alex, do you agree? Could you put out a few lines to formalise this if you do?
On the:- “How are US folks paying Wilsons?” thread Brad was having a go with Spyro, I just said Brad & Spyro shake hands will you. See #132 of that thread. Neither commented, but I think Brad has took the hint and hid some place for now. Oh! I declined some one this morning forgot his name, But his reason, his comment for wanting to join was:- “You will find out in due cause” Seems we never will, Lol!
If you receive complaints, feel free to tell them to reach me via mail@snuffhouse.org. That’s the best way to make me have a look at it. If that’s fine with you?
Mind if I put that out as a quick thread from us? It helps for folks to know the system.
Go ahead.
Ive left ‘brute strength and ingnorence’ as I just find that screen name to shout ‘problem’. Although his entry question resonse is ok, I thought Id see what you lads thoughs as once they are on they’re on.
Hi Good morning Nigel, Sorry if I jumped the gun I accepted him. As you say his reasons for joining us was applicable. His screen-name would, could mean nothing, I’m known on a forum as WildCat, and I’m the most friendly pussy about. We will watch him.
No, it needed closing. When I signed on this morning I found a whisper from Pieter about the thread with a request for it to be closed. I noticed it was closed already. Cheers mate.
Yeah, I probably should have closed it last night, it was just TOO interesting to me!! : )
I re-started smoking due to a girlfriend. We both vow to quit after an event in July. I may have to look into vaping.
Don’t worry, you’ll kick it again Mark. Snuffhead - no problem with ‘brute’, I wasn’t feeling too charitable that night for some resaon!
Ive just closed the ‘snorters’ thread for the same reasons as ‘long line of snuff’. Lots of accusations of trolling from xander and the word ‘retard’ being bandied about.
This retad thing seems to be getting out of hand with the slanging continuing on snuff for the day, Ive emailed Alex and asked him to have a look. I really think we should get rid of people quicker than we do.
Ive just closed yet another thread. We need to work on this together and just bin them as soon as they start to get abusive.
I mailed Ardrasath to keep it down. If he keeps insulting people, I will kick him out.
Thanks Alex
Could you do me a favour? Please leave whistlrr alone and don’t answer her. She seems to have the feeling we are doing a witch hunt here. I know we aren’t, but ignoring her will help most. If she gets out of control, please tell me here in private or via e-mail. I will step in than. A big thanks for doing such a great job!
I learnt it was best to ignore her some time ago, LOL! Stayed clear of her on the “What Are The Duties Of A Moderator” thread By the way, we have a strange one wanting to join us, Reason “I want to know the dangers of snuffing and how I can stop snuffing” I’m leaving that one for you.
Accepted him. If we can help him with snuff related questions, he is welcome.
OK, Alex. Problem is we don’t know haw to stop snuffing!
All fine by me, I tend to avoid Whistlrr like the plague. I suspect she is one of those people who thrive on argument.
Banned whistlrr for being too aggressive.
I was just about to email you about that thread, then noticed you was there and closed it. You did the right thing, it was getting that no one could say anything without a ‘blast back’.
Good riddance! Also Alex, if you could unsticky what in your nose #6 and sticky #7, that would be great! Mark
I’m scared to approve anyone right now! Could be whistler in disguise!! : ]
@ Mark, LOL! I too feel it in my water, she will try and get back. I feel sure we will soon find her patter, of un-pleasantness, then she will get the chop from Alex, again. I’m ready to allow NoYB, reason > “I use snuff”. (e-mail address is > noyboy007@live.com) I’m sure Alex can track the ISP, and see if the IP address relate to whistlrr.If this person kicks off.
Personally I think we have enough members to be going on with, why don’t we just have a moritorium for a few weeks to let everything settle down? The bigger snuffhouse gets the more we will get away from the old spirit and get members who don’t even use snuff but who are just serial members of forums and chat groups for their own odd purposes - usually sad people like Whistlrr who probably need ways to vent their frustration and anger about life; I belive ANY site will do for these people. Alex, good move banning Whistlrr. With all respect and courtesy I think you need to think about having a few more checks and balances in place. Bob has already whispered me saying he doesn’t want to be around much more (leave that to me) and I also have felt the same in the past. We surely run the very real possibility that the decent people move away just leaving the aggressive and the trolls? Could I suggest the following; you have a ‘cool down’ suspension in place. If someone is causing disharmony - but you maybe want to give them a chance - why don’t we have system of 2 week suspensions on posting? That could be handled by mods or you and would show that this is one place on the net where you have to behave?
I’ll see if a temporary suspension is possible. Closing Snuffhouse for a certain period is no goog idea, I feel.
No, don’t close it (by moritorium I just meant no more members for a while) - all that’s needed is a bit more of a rigerous/pro-active approach when things are boiling over. I’m sure I speak for everybody on the mod team when I say we will help with anything you need doing. It’s a simple fact: if we can deal with trouble makers quickly we will save the site from going downhill; the internet is full of awful forums - this one is great, a tribute to you and worth fighting for…but it will take the will to do it.
The software update is coming the next month. It’s almost released. Once it’s released and Snuffhouse migrated to the updated platform, I will be able to empower the mods. This means quicker actions are possible in the future.
Great news, cheers Alex.
The latest applicant has written a paragraph of ramble to the joining question, Alex can you tell if this is Whistlrr?
@ Nigel, Great minds think alike!
Approved. Different internet provider. Let’s have a look at Pot Poe anyway
Good idea
I notice that we, at this side of the Atlantic are keeping out of that OT thread about knives. This thread just sickens me, should we close it, or would we be spoil sports? Snuff taking to me is friendliness. As I just say, I’m sick of this type.
It’s just about knives, right? Not about how to stab humans or game?
See snuff_n00b, postings #8 on that thread are they nice? Sorry I’m in to snuff and going now goodbye all.
Alex, you are going to be left without any decent members unless you start enforcing some rules. This site is being spoilt by agressive Americans (sorry Mark) and an increasing lack of any decency or will to do anything about it.
I guess I need a hint, at least. Thanks.
I just think we need to tighten up on how long we let people be disruptive for. They need to be gone as soon as they start, I also think it might be an idea to get rid of the OT capacity, virtually all of the arguments and abuse stem from them. Snuffhead was clearly upset by a thread on knives and now we’ve lost a great mod. Please bring this back to snuff Alex, there’s plenty of places where people can rant and rave - they don’t need to do it here.
Just closed ‘some more pact news’ which, predicatably, had turned into a political rant by our US friends.
Where’s the problem of ignoring the OT threads? That’s why I made a category for those. I tried to find the bad post in the knives thread, but #8 was just a collection of pictures.
One more thing. The moderation will become much more efficient with the new system. I will be able to empower the mods much better, if this helps.
Just so you guys know, I am here! I may not post often or reply some times, but I’m on my computer all day, keeping an eyes on things. I’m not really sure what to say or think about the “aggressive” American comment. I don’t really even know where specific members are from. I really don’t even think in those terms. One of my favorite things about this forum is the fact that people from all over the world get together (despite their differences) and have intelligent conversations about snuff and other things. When I first became a moderator, I told Alex I was only interested in deleting comments from the obvious trolls and personal attacks. So far it seems to be working for me. I don’t think i have ability to be the morality police to people from all over the world, with many different views and ways of life. Personally I didn’t see anything wrong with the knives thread. If we closed every thread because one person didn’t approve, the forum would cease to exist. I could see making a rule where NO politics are discussed, period. If that was decided by Alex, it could be posted and we could just delete comments and close threads immediately, instead of waiting for them to turn ugly. Anyway, good news!! I haven’t smoked since Tuesday. For those that don’t remember, I started back after quiting for over a year. Funny, I don’t really even miss it!! Cheers!! : ) Mark
I was wrong to make that comment and apologise If I caused offence, period. A plain stupid thing to say. All I can say in defence is we all say (or type) stupid things every once in a while and it was not meant in any deep way - just a dumb throwaway comment. Also, I don’t mean to be intolerant and I take on board your points Mark - moral policing is mine field best left to those who don’t ever say or do anything wrong! Which aint me… I really like the no politics idea which would probably be morev effective than anything else Well done on the smoking.
No worries, no offense taken! I just hate to see any group of people stereotyped for the actions of a few.
No politics. First rule for the upcoming version of Snuffhouse. Good idea!
Thanks Mark, and of course you are right about stereotyping. Excellent Alex, I think that will solve untold problems.
To be able to sticky / un-sticky would be helpful.
Hi guys! I’m definitely not approving the new requests that are just a series of links. I don’t know what’s up with that.
That’s a spam bot. Declined.
I declined 4 last night, they all seemed to be linked to drugs. There would be a medicine name and then a bunch of what looked like programming language in place of the answer to the joining question - I assume these are automaticaly generated by commercial concerns? It seems like we are the only three mods left, Alex do you think we should get more or just leave it as it is? Ther new snuffhouse sounds intriguing, what are the changes likely to be?
Keep a look out for Afterburner - seems like a borderline troll/idiot.
Afterburner seems to be a nice guy, yes. The major change is a new software version which brings: - a hosted version (which costs a little, but I don’t have to deal with servers etc. anymore) - advanced role setting (which lets my give the moderators all rights I want to) - internal message system (a real one, not whispers) - uploading pictures is much easier and many more. I guess it will take one or two more month before we can switch to the new system.
Ok Alex, thanks.
Joke thread cancelled after complaints. Please see the post from the guy who put the racist joke on there - I STRONGLY suggest he is banned, given that he said he didn’t care if he offended anyone. Alex, I think you need to put asticky on the front page listing the stuff that will get you banned. Well, I think thats about me done with moderation - I just don’t have the heart anymore.
Banned the user and deleted the post. Thanks for the hint. Nigel, I appreciate you being honest.
Thanks Alex Obviously I want to keep my membership so I have no problem if you want to keep me nominally on the mod list in case you ever need a hand, but I am looking in on a much more occasional basis these days.
I am currently testing the migration to the new forum. Looks very good so far.
Cool, I can’t wait to see it. I haven’t been able to get on a couple times, I guessed that could be why.
That was an outage which was not connected to the migration. But the data is now safely spread about two systems.
Just banned Mateo for insulting members.
I think we need a couple new mods, Alex.
Mark, good hint. Maybe I could make an announcement and we could choose 2 or 3 more after we reviewed them? Would this be a good way from your point of view?
Haha, not really a hint!! Yeah, that sounds good. Feel free to run the volunteers by me, since I read every thread every day I may be more familiar with the “players.” Someone in a different time zone (EST) than me I think…
@ Alex, after a cool down, and into self exile I’ll come back if you want me? I must admit I did some lurking and that guy Mateo wanted stopping. My regards, John
Sure we want you. Welcome back!
OK, Thanks Alex, I’m back. I’ll help out in keeping Trolls like Mateo out. Hello again fellow mod’s. John
Hey John… Nice to have some help!!
Thanks Mark, Keep your eye on Bill! I have a feeling it is Mateo too.
I don’t think there’s any question, his “Bill” profile here and"Mateo’s" youtube profile are almost the same.
But no new trouble so far with bill?
He just messin around now, pretending to be a newbie, starting threads and asking a lot of questions. No problems for now.
cstokes4 aksed to become a mod. What do you think?
And he mentiones Xander would make a great mod.
Yes cstokes4 and Xander I think can do the job, but remember cstokes can be a little over the top when new members don’t do a search for answers to questions already asked. What do Mark, and the other think.
Just banned Bill.
Poor Bill, LOL! I notice Bill came on with a yahoo.com mail address, and Mateo was gmail.com. I know anyone can get a web based email quickly, and are anonymous. Some forums insist on joining with their ISP’s email account. This makes is far easy to track. Anyway we better look out for him getting on here again, with another name, or maybe he will be tired!
I don’t even have a ISP email address! Just gmail and juno. I was thinking the same thing about cstokes, he really blasts newbies on occasion. I think Xander would be good. I"m pretty sure they both live in my time zone. Wouldn’t be bad to find someone in a different part of the world, I think.
Xander is awake at night it seems.
Yes I think cstokes does live in your time zone, Xander is in Wilmington Delaware this I would think is in the same zone. Alex is +1hr off me in the UK, your -5 so someone on the west US seaboard -8hr would be fine. Troutstroker comes to mind, but he’s not around very often now.
Good point Alex. I think when someone comes up volunteering, then we might get another snuffbox, lol!
Alex makes a good point. I get up very early in the morning, like 5 or 6 am and go to bed very early.
New applicant… I’m not approving anyone for a while!!
I think Xander would do the job, and favour him over cstokes for reasons I and you Mark have noted. Quot:- "New applicant… I’m not approving anyone for a while!! " bellsouth.net, that’s in your world, I think Mark. No I too will leave this for Alex.
Yeah I noticed the bellsouth.net email… does seem more “legit.” If not for the Bill / Mateo thing I wouldn’t hesitate.
I approved him. His IP looks save. Mateo and Bill shared the exact same IP. This was one person.
Any way for us mods to check IP addresses? I’m scared to approve anyone now! I approved Mateo and Whistlerr, I’m doubting my judgement!!
I’ll note that for the update. Good idea!
Another yahoo email, I’m not touching it!!!
Seems to be ok. Approved him.
Itsuke just apologised for showing Mateo/Bill this forum, but made clear, that he is not a friend of her at all.
Ya Itsuke is ok, she was unfortunate to get involved with that idiot. Just approved "Jambam 789 he/she is :- @aircomlimited.com
Mateo has started a personal witch hunt. Nice. http://thehouseofsnuff.yolasite.com/discussions.php
LOL! well he’s leaving us alone… Nice find!
Just had alook at it - one of those typical, unpleasant, sniping sites. However it should suit some of the people here down to the ground so hopefully they can all be unpleasant there rather than here.
I found it as someone tried to register with that domain. I rejected him, of course.
I saw that applicant too and left it alone.
Very frightening Mateo’s avatar has a striking resemblance to a strange-one, who comes in out pub!
I think Bill/Mateo has added a third personality, Walt.
That was me who approved him. His IP is slightly different. His comments look like him, yes. Let’s see what’s coming.
OK. I told him that we know each other and welcomed him back as long as he complies to our rules. I also readjusted the spam protection to prevent to many comments in a short time span.
Using a different computer on his same ISP?
Hopefully using a different attitude.
Hope so, lets see.
I’m watching him like a hawk…
I think thats a very big mistake, he gets his fun by being the way he is (or just plain needs to) He will start again. One of the techniques - if you can call it that - of being a troll is apparently calming down or stopping the troll behaviour. They get that much more of a kick by starting it off again; remember Hydrahead? Coming back with a different name doesn’t equate to being different. It depends how you want the site to go but there must be genuine new members that are put off when they see all this and there are certainly old members that don’t come around as much. If its the same guy just ban him and save everyone from the inevitable annoyance that is to come. There is such a thing as being too tolerant…
I don’t like that now he’s pretending to be a newb, basically he’s mocking us and he thinks were a bunch of idiots. Everyone seems to know and is just playing along.
I have just closed the time travel thing, he’s posting massive cut and paste jobs (and by Alex’s rules rambling stuff goes). Ive emailed Alex and asked him to ban him again. Ill come out of retirment for a couple of days and look in once in a while.
Thanks for the help, todays my only day off all week and I’m heading to the beach soon. I was gonna make a comment about Mateo / Bill / Walt being Whistlerr re-incarnated! I decided against it, no sense in baiting the troll…
You are right, he just needs ignoring and banning again.
I banned Walt for posting the same stuff over and over again. He posted his picture the fourth time after promissing me not to do. Watch the new applicant. He has a nearly identical IP. I’m not letting him in yet.
Good job Alex:) How about not approving anyone at all for a while? This complete oddball gets his jollies by just being a plain and simple nuisance. His next trick will be getting in via a new account from an internet cafe or something.
Just signed in I could see no new applicant has he been let in or is he out?
Not Walt, or whoever again!
I declined them,thought it was he. I seem to be out of mod retirement; ah well, we make a good team:)
Ok, nice to see you back Nigel. When I sign in and if I find a new applicant, I always look to see if there is any messages on this thread. He’ll try to get back for sure!
New Applicant:- Hayden1967. I think he is OK, but I’m leaving it for Alex to check his IP address.
Declined to Mateos (IPs match exactly) and approved David69 (totally different IP).
Yes, he doesn’t give up does he. I think for the time being us mods should leave the approving/declining to you Alex.
Good idea, all new applicants up to Alex. Also, if by any chance he gets through I really think he should be banned straight away even if he hasn’t done anything. He has to be regarded as someone whose sole intention is to try and ruin things - don’t forget he seems to have a thing about outsmarting people - this is one guy who shouldn’t get any further chances. I think the time has come for some kind of publicised policy - a sticky - that sets out a few basic rules. I think we should try and get a feeling going of not responding to trolls and flagging them up to Alex. Its been said before but it needs to be up there for all to see. I would also hope that in the new version of the site we can be given the capacity to close someone down in the short term. A ban should always be Alex’s decision but we could be much more effective if we could take initial action more than just deleting a post. This site really can be saved if we can just have a couple of changes.
Alright. I will deal with new applicants for a while exclusively. A sticky doesn’t prevent trolls from joining. It’s like a sign “Don’t let your dog do poo-poo here”. People who don’t care, don’t care about signs either. With the new version of Snuffhouse.org, there will be a pause button for mods. This means you can pause any user (like a temporary ban). This will enable you to stops trolls right away. Guys, thanks for your help!
That will help us a lot. With regards a rules sticky, the real point of signs is not that they deter people its that they don’t have any defence when they are dealt with - ie, don’t complain the rules are clearly printed. Just a thought, but with that pause button we should be a lot more effective.
Declined one more Mateo. I will check if the IP lookup is possible for mods, too.
What do we look for, I am not quite as IT literate as you! I think Mateos next step will be to use another account from an internet cafe of something - would that work?
Nigel go here:- Your IP address You will get the idea of this site. edit: and HERE This one even gives your location. If he used an other computer then he IP would be slightly different. And total different from a Internet Cafe, But he’d have to keep moving location, or we would soon spot the similar addresses.
Thanks John. So if he, say, lived in Chicago would Chicago users have a broadly similar IP that we could spot? I’m sure - like most children that are ignored - he will give up long before he starts moving from location to location.
One thing. We should never say that we can look up IPs. It’s like a secret weapon which we use to identify double accounts. In general it is known that the IP can be tracked, of course. But we should not ecourage trolls to change IPs.
That very true Alex, and worth keeping in mind. @ Nigel Quote “So if he, say, lived in Chicago would Chicago users have a broadly similar IP that we could spot?” No! I have three computers and if I connect with my local ISP which is karoo on each computer all four sets of numbers are different. so the IP number will not give you the city. You can bookmark that site I gave you and paste IP addresses in there, to find computers locations. BUT use it as a guide. I’m in Hull, as you know, but sometimes my IP address tells me I’m in Leicester for some reason. AOL IP’s change all the time. Also if I go out in the garden and use my laptop on a my mobile phone company’s dongle, then I’m in Manchester, or sometimes in London!
I think if anyone still uses dial-up, the ip address changes every time you log in.
You can have static or dynamic IPs. But the provider stays the same and the area is rougly identical. It helps but is not bullet proof.
Just declined an applicant coming via a proxy. I am pretty sure it was Mateo. EMail address and comment very similar.
I can’t believe Mateo applied for membership again with the same gmail address he started with!!
approved: hippiekid, hubertotto declined: NaTe19-74 and another Mateo I am declining applicants using proxies where we cannot see his real origin. This is the safest way to go before we have the ban button for mods (which is already implemented in the new version).
approved @snuffalufagus
I’m leaving well alone. I’m just not IT aware enough to be happy.
It’s simply copy and paste the shown IP into a check field. With version 2 mods will see the IP, too.
It might be an idea to watch Hippiekid - he just whispered the following to me: What’s a “troll”? just wondering so I don’t feel like an idiot if it’s brought up again, haha How close is the IP Alex?
I saw him when he applied and it looked suspicious to me! I wonder how he even knew you were a mod.
Have a look at the comments on the welcome page to put the exchange in context. All you cant see is my whisper back to him, but it essentially the same as the open comment I wrote. You will get the gist of what I was up to!!
The IP is fine. Let’s watch him, but I think he is okay. Please let me know if there are problems. Thanks!
In two days Hippiekid has only made 6 comments, can’t be our friend back again. But Watching. @ Mark “I wonder how he knew you are a mod”:- all he has to do is click on snuffster’s user-name and it takes him into Nigel’s account.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing about the lack of comments. I know about clicking on the username, but why?? I check peoples accounts all the time but it’s doubtful someone would check everyone to see who’s a mod. Anyway, reading the whole thread his whisper makes sense, whether or not he even knew if Snuffster was a mod. It’s almost funny (in a tragic way) I’m suspicious of everyone now!!
It was simply the pickup of my use of the word troll and the ‘ha ha’ at the end of his whisper. But you might have a point about paranoia!! Just ban him outright the first use of Latin! On vacation for a week, catch up when I get back…
Enjoy your “holiday” I’m off tomorrow, I plan on canoeing / fishing all day.
Yes enjoy your holiday Nigel, hope you posted that ‘Midnight’ b4-you go. I’m looking forward to tasting it.
And with you off tomorrow Mark, enjoy. I’ll make a point of saying around on here.
Thanks John, afraid the snuff will have to get posted when I get back - I just ran out of time with various jobs, see ya…
Typical London Copper! LOL! No problems Nigel, now have a good break from work.
Lol!!! First job when I get back! See ya mate…
Just Approved Snuffmillmouse Seems OK and not a Gmail or Yahoo account.
Just closed the Nr22 thread, watch Mikke.
Just approved a new member from Vietnam. We are really international here. Love it!
Vietnam, that could be interesting learning a little about snuff taking over there.
approved one user from Ohio (IP okay) declined one troll calling himself a troll (very funny) and one user (IP shows proxy server)
OK, back from holiday - things seem to have been relatively quiet…
Just closed a political rant.
Closed the walmart thread before it gets nasty.
Are we still leaving applicants up to you Alex?
I haven’t been approving anything.
I would like to go on like this for some more days, yes.
Fine by me, Im ignoring the one currently waiting. Have their been any more attempts from our friend?
Mcguyver75 and Chris74 ? Both seem a touch odd and putting massive posts on the welcome thread. Mcguyver does sound like Mateo when you read him and people are already making troll hints. Just thought Id flag that up…
He just called himsef a ‘head’ as well. I’d put a fiver on it now…
No Mateo. Except he moves some hundred miles from his home before logging in here.
@Snuff Head: I re-opened the Making Snuff thread. Did you close it on purpose? I do see no reason to do so. I’m curious.
Hi Alex, I just thought at the time it was covering the ground that has already been covered. A hasty decision on my part. I was out of order, sorry.
No problem. I was just interested. Thanks!
Maybe we should have some ground rules about duplicate threads and when and if to close them. The good thing about having guidelines is that they make the mods job easier. Like yesterday I closed something that was entitled ‘a political rant’. I knew when I saw it that I could and should shut it down. So maybe it wopuld be a good idea to re-visit the sticky about when to close a thread?
How about making Rodericks ‘How to behave on a forum’ a sticky?
Getting some queeries about Mcguyver74 and Chris75 (or whatever the hell they are called) Listening watch please gents.
If you have a special comment, could you please link it here? Thanks!
Xander asked me to tidy up the welcome thread as Mcguyver and Chris74 were using it as a discussion thread. I removed a few and asked Chris to get involved in the rest of the forum, the text below is a whisper from Xander: ''CommentAuthorXander to youCommentTime15 hours agoWhisper back delete Yeah, I think half of what he says is made up, and he seems to say things that don’t really need to be said. Also he says some of the exact same things in multiple threads. A lot of that is consistant with Mateo’s behavior. I’m pretty sure he is Mateo, as is macguyver. Thatjerk is questionable as are a few other of the new people. He says in the post above he’s never even tried snuff. A snuff forum is a pretty odd place to be (let alone make so many posts) if you’ve never even tried snuff. something about this guy, indeed… ‘’ I also detect a few things, but you say it not possible for the IP to Mateo’s so maybe we are juts beinmg jumpy??
Maybe he is just getting on othe people’s nerves. I will have an eye on him and talk to him as soon as he spams again.
Thanks Alex. Btw, when is version 2 coming out?
I too have been keeping an I on those two and I also agree with Xander Thatjerk appears dodgy. I’ll keep my eye out on the three of them also, and report here if they get out of hand.
Ive asked Xander - just to get another perspective and he’s always on the site - to give me the names of anyone he thinks is dodgy. Obvioulsy we don’t want to go overboard on this but might bea worthwhile objective.
Read this for what its worth, but out of interest this is Xanders view of the new members. ‘‘Macguyer75 of course. He’s dominated the place lately and is very new. I’m pretty sure this is Mateo in a new form. thatjerk: many posts very soon after joining 59 posts in 7 days. He also claims to live in my state, and whispered me about local things (which he could have looked up on the internet). However, he does seem sincere. Joshua2007: not sure. seems to ask odd questions and say obvious things. Low probabilty of trouble. London Jack: definatley not Mateo or a troll, but seems to say provocative things frequently. Just his personality I guess. (Personally he annoys the hell out of me, but I try not to let it bother me) Pgcd: Italian guy. Now planning to offer Italian snuff to members, but sometimes what seems too good to be true often is. I would hate for someone to take a bunch of members’ money and then disappear. I hope he is sincere, but not 100% confident. Khalid: also sort of new and has “convienently” discovered Icelandic snuff in London. Well, maybe he did, but he could be trying to scam people, like the Italian guy might be. (Mateo’s antics have gotten me suspicious of everyone I don’t know, so I coulf be really off base with these guys, That’s good troll work. They make you suspicous of non-trolls) Totalsnuff: nothing, just feels funny. Snuffrider: same, but asking lots of easy to find out the answers type questions lately. Or questions which I thought everyone who comes here woukd know aready. Is he just too lazy to use the search feature? I’ve gotten more worried about this guy in the last few days. User ShOwStOpp3r: too early to tell, but might be a Mateo alter-ego. Seems to try and push his luck a lot, and ask odd questions. ChrisS74: I have 90% certainty, feeling-wise, that this is a Mateo alter-ego. He has whispered me several times asking really dumb questions, and also claims to live near me (and has told me so). He’s cited a few local things, but he makes little mistakes and could have gotten local info off google maps or other internet sources. If I answer a question of his, he tries to lead me into an even dumber question. Its classic troll tactics. I also find it odd that he claims to have never even tried snuff, yet has made 21 comments in 3 days on a snuff forum. I’ve ignored his last whisper to me. graybeard19: This one could be a Mateo alter-ego too. Otherwise he’s just a goof-ball making long, hard to read, and mostly useless postings. Bishop: made some odd opening comments and interacted a lot at first. Has not been back in a few days. I only took my search back two days. Ok. that’s all that’s springing to mind, using the search feature here. I’ll add more if I find the time’’
Working hard on Snuffhouse V2. Should be here in some weeks.
Great news. Maybe we could stagger full membershio like other sites - only a ceratin amount of new posts per day for new members?
Just declined someone who was interested in kanna and other herbs, seemed like a junky type.
I could see him Nigel, I was leaving it to Alex to decide. Didn’t know what kanna was.
Well done. Thanks.
Glad I did the right thing, I took a chance that he just wasn’t here for the right reasons - certainly seemed to have nothing to do with snuff!
Odd, Wilsons of Sharrow and Ian from McCrystals both applied for accounts within about 15 minutes of each other. Both had proper email addresses with the domain at the end so I approved them. Should be interesting to see what they contribute.
Maybe Alex should take a look at those IPs? WoS already have an account here - they used it to launch the WoS website? I bow to your greater understanding of IT either way though.
I think they are both OK. Both applicants popped up as I opened this forum this morning, Mark got in just ahead of me. The addresses are genuine. If it is someone messing about, then Marks invite/welcome, will go to both Wilsons & McCrystal’s anyway. Nigel, your correct, Wilsons MD opened an account here. This could be the snuff miller! Anyway I bet Wilsons & McCrystal’s have been on the phone together. Hoping there’s no flame wars.
As long as the domains are ok, that’s fine. Thanks guys!
Good news. Well whatever reasons hopefully it will do the hobby some good being on here.
Theres an OT thread ‘bitch about anything’ Struck me a ‘need to talk’ thread might be good here. I know for a fact from previous experience (any one remember Big D?) that the occasional member has literally no one else. We also have people that can answer questions in a practical way - me as a cop for instance. I wouldn’t open this without approval, but if you are ok with it I’ll police it?
Must be following you today Nigel. Just read your post on there then find you here! Sounds a good idea. BUT, would people want to come on here giving sensitive info. Maybe just encourage the cracked pots. Give it ago, It could always be closed down if it does go pair shaped.
Theres lots of things could go wrong but I have the time to keep a good watch on it - it would either work or not but the click of a button to close down - I just sometimes get a feeling it could help. Trust me after 20 odd years in the job Im in Im not being a naieve do-gooder, just willing to take a punt?
Alex, ill give this a go but will monitor it. Any concerns from you?
Sure, give it a try.
Thanks
Ive closed the ‘matteo’ thread as it was turning into a pointless discussion - hope that was ok, one of us had sunk it but it was getting further posts. Self help thread opened, Ill close in a week if its a bad idea, Ive put the ground rules on there.
Alex, can you make ‘need to talk’ a sticky for a week, just to see if it works?
I would rather like to test it as a usual thread for a while?
No problem.
Denied Louisep for giving ‘sfpsfpsfpsfpsfpsfpsfp’ as the reason to join. Or it could have been an alien saying ‘yours is the only computer on Earth I can get into and a commet is on its way, get under the table’ But as nothing has happened it probably wasn’t.
Im going to let ‘need to talk’ quietly sink. Its there if anyone ever sees it.
Alex, can I ask that you ban afterburner without further ado, see the ‘bitchin’ thread.
Yeah, I was just about to say the same thing. Snuffster beat me to it! Roderick emailed me and suggested the same.
I don’t know if the term is familiar outside the UK but ‘puff’ is now regarded as pretty unpleasant and homophobic. I have my doubts about anyone like this who goes on about queen and country and has a picture of himself in a fighter on his account page. Probably been no closer to a war-plane than I have. Either way he’s a poisenous idiot. I wouldn’t be a member of anything he was thats for sure.
Yeah I got the “puff” reference, again, from the cruise ship days. I started to comment but stopped myself. I shouldn’t have commented at all, I couldn’t help myself.
Hopefully Alex will act immediately - I also think we should start listing people who are banned.
Done. Thanks for the hint.
Good call Alex, thanks for acting so quickly.
What do you think about having a ‘banned list’ type of thread? It would show that we do take prompt action when needed. A while ago the mods got some flak about not doing anything about trolls. A simple thread, that could be just brought to the top of the page when someone is offed? No big deal or sticky, but just a touch of re-assurance?
I think we need to see what the version 2 has to offer. Right now we cant really do much anyway…
Been busy over the weekend sorting my videos and mp3 files, and watching the F1 Jap. grand prix. But found this thread:-Banned
Im on that, woo-hoo! I never knew that list existed, thats my question answered.
Just aproved runjack. He’s been waiting a few hours, and had a sensible answer for wanting to join us.
Just closed the pact/wine thread - political argument starting up.
Possible troll with nicola37 - massive posts on snuff being harmful; usually when we get massive, long posts there is a troll behind them.
I was thinking maybe whistler was back.
Oh no not whistler! Just closed the Looking for Navy and Starr snuff (US Only) thread, as Cstokes said there is already a thread for trades.
This is a copy of a whisper from Bob: ‘‘I have to ask your opnion is it just me or is nikola full of it? I"am sure you noticed this but he didn’t describe nicotine withdraw but opiate withdraw almost like he cut and pasted it in. I’ve read a lot about nicotine withdraw and I get it about as bad as a person can. Severe malise fuzzy thinking yet no palor or sweating. I think he really is working for some company like an antitobacco group or a cigarette company. Now I won’t be suprised if I hear rumours that snuff withdraw is like herion withdraw and that it’s more sevre then other nicotine withdraws’’ Worth keeping in mind. Either way one to watch.
Just approved a few with sensible comments, declined the one who put ‘asdfa’ as reason for joining.
Closed inglorious basterds thread; Marks warning being ignored…
Should we close the “over dose” thread, before it gets out of hand?
Just closed it.
Nigel, I think a good call. My ISP was down most of the day, so only just come on-line.
I think so, cheers John.
Sleepwalker might become a little nasty I think I just deleted a comment to Pieter, something about “his head up is ass” or something like that on the how long after I smoke… thread
I wouldn’t be surprised if Sleepwalker was Afterburner with a different name. Might want to check the IP’s, Alex.
Im not touching the new one
@miamimark: Both Enghlishmen, but the IP says hundreds of kilometres away from each other. We’ll have an eye an him.
Sleep Walker got a little funny on his Thread “How long after smoking can i snuff?” Post #7
The comment I deleted was much worse. In the future I’ll copy / paste it it here before I delete it.
His comment (thanks for deleting): # Pieter Claassen That was a joke? what have you had a sense of humour transplant or something. You’re so far up your own backside just like michelle. maybe u could try putting some snus up there while you’re there.
Personally I think if a brand new member acts like that they should be banned straight off, I mean would any of us act like that on day one? Lets cut the future problems by being a bit stricter at the early stage. Its different if you have a long relationshhip with a group but if you come in like that I can only see it as being something thats going to be a problem. Or, give us the capacity to give a member an official warning; 3 strikes and your out?
Ive approved quite a few lately, all with sensible comments. Ones with things like random key-strokes like ‘qwer’ Ive left, just to keep you informed. Anything that looks odd - like the guy who wrote a page - Im still referring to Alex.
Ive advised nicola not to keep putting long posts on about the dangers of snuff; its basically coming across as troll like, she put a long post on when someone was asking for prayers, completely out of order. She’s in the wrong place or is just out to cause mischief.
Just closed “NTSU as a dip: ouch!” as I think it would just go like all the rest of the none snuffers threads.
Just opened up, and found a whisper from Mike B. about closing that thread. Here is what he said, and my reply whisper to him. Hope I did right in it’s closing. I think if it wasn’t closed then we would have had bullets from CStokes, LOL! Mike B. to you 6 hours ago regarding your closing of my NTSU post: one of the other commenters said that they hadn’t tried it with a fresh batch, so I did. my conclusion was that it shouldn’t be dipped when fresh because the ammonia burns. I’ve dipped it afer airing it out and it’s quite good. it may not be your cup of tea, but to close down the discussion seems odd, and the way you did it was unnecessarily rude. I’ve been an active member since joining a few months ago and have never been rude to anyone here. Snuff Head to Mike B. 2 minutes ago Hi Mike, thanks for the whisper. You know what, us mods can never please all, and we are not on a payroll, lol! We could also get it in the neck from Alex, the owner of SnuffStore. I think you will agree that having more then one thread running in parallel can get messy, or untidy. Since closing the thread I’ve inserted a link to the other on-going thread. and you can always complain by a whisper to Alex, if you think I, or any of us mods are out of order. He, if he thinks we have done wrong can always open a thread again. My regards, John
I agree with your action. We are nopt doing the job if we don’t act when we feel its right to. We can’t get paralysed with worry about offending people. In a similar vein I whispered nicola and asked him to stop putting long posts on about the dangers of tobacco. Its just out of place here and eventually will cause arguments. We do this thing on judgement and try to do our best. I think the three of us left that do any moderation work for the good of all and often have to put up with bullshit because of it. Good call John.
Just closed fishing for americans aftertelling them to leave the politics last night.
Ive just had a few long emails from nicola037. Seems we have a very unwell persom here, lots of paranoid ramblings. Im going to email Alex seperately.
I’ll be back online here in one or two days.
Don’t worry, we’re good, have a nice time whatever you are doing:)
Does our functionality change with the move? Any new buttons to press?
You gain more power to use it wisely. You can see IP addresses to check for trolls coming back and ban and un-ban users. This will enable you to stop trolls right away without waiting for me to take action.
Can we (mods) take a sneak peak if we promise to look but not touch? Is there a url that’s active right now?
Here we go again.
Woohooo!! Good move, now we can conference easily:)
Right, a few points, if you could kinldy explain. I, as a mod,I seem to be able to see everyones messages when I click on a user name. 2, the ‘announcement’ button - the old stickies; is it only mods than can dom that? 3. Why would I loose a post? I responded to one member yesterday and the post appeared and then went? I had to re-type it? 4. Every now and then the page will move around the screen - not impossible but a touch irritating. 5. Its much slower, can we have a quicker post time? Have you any idea how intriguibg this all is if you are not good at IT!! I do think I’m getting there but still feel like the dumb boy at the back of the class:( Also, livemydreams is operating a small business on the site; is that OK?
Hi fellow mods, like snuffstrer I’m pleased to see this thread opened again. Not been very active of late. I came a cropper on the ice the other week, nothing broken but feel very uncomfortable sat at the computer. Feel like I’ve been in the boxing ring with Mike Tyson!
Hope you feel better mate, Ive got flu, lifes just a haze at the moment
@Snuffster 1. You can see his wall comments. Those are not messages but public posts. Anybody can see them. 2. Only mods can announce, yes. 3. I have no idea. 4. I have no idea. 5. I have no idea. I will try something and we will see. 6. regarding livemydreams. As long as he is doing that in private, that’s okay for me. He should not act public, though.
Right, all cool. I’ve spent a very weird and hazy week with flu (every year at this time like clockwork) and still not great so haven’t been around much. Happy Xmas all and here’s to a great new year for everyone.
We are losing Nicotinerush as an advertising partner due to the laws and a breakdown in Tom’s sales. We are losing Toque as an advertising partner. Roderick believes that he will sell enough without advertising here (which might well be true).
I can understand the Nicotinerush thing; clearly he’s been back to the wall for a while now. What I don’t get is that the whole PACT saga seems not to have effected Mr Snuff? Maybe Tom made some decisions too quickly. Almost identical businesses. It does seem strange for Roderick to go though; this is the only advertising he can do and he’s pulling out? Very odd. Does this have any implications for the site staying online?
Just poking around the site and came across whistlrrs account, where she didn’t appear to be banned. I clicked the ‘ban user’ tab - OK? @Alex
@snuffster The site will stay online even with two advertisers. Roderick will see how it develops and might come back quickly. Regarding whistlrr, that’s fine. Probably she was banned but not shown as banned due to the migration. Now she definitely is.
cheers Alex
why am I always shown 2 in my inbox when there’s nothing there?
@snuffster Are there old messages you did not read?
No, the field is empty as well if I click into it. Not a problem, just wondered why.
Looks like a migration bug or so. Might go away some time.
Ive just warned Micheltn about being abusive - he called one of the members a wanker. This is the third time Ive had words with him and I have told him next time will be a banning.
How do you delete a comment? Seems we can only edit them now.
@Snuffster You are right. Now you can delete discussions and comments.
This new version has been a hard slog!!
Aaam IIII Alooooooooone in heeerrrrreeee??? I thinks its me and you now Alex
Haha, I’m always here!!! I just don’t post unless I have something to say! : )
Hey Mark, nice to see ya. the opposite of me!
I’m about but still in pain after my slip on the ice!
Well, I hope you get well very quickly John, nice to see that avatar come up! Today is my last official day as a cop; retired as from tomorrow. Ive taken it early due to my bad back which is very bad at the moment, so I empathise about the pain. Still; we have snuff!!
Well Nigel, I retired at the very end of 1999. Well I was made redundant, so retired early. I don’t look back to work as I find plenty of my own to do. I’m sure it will be the same with you. Happy days, and a long retirement.
Thanks John No, I don’t look back, Ive got a future to live in not in a past chapter, long life to us oldies then!
I reopened the bad trader alert discussion. I told him to open it. Thanks anyway, Nigel.
No problem, I just closed it because both are still current members and could see a war developing, which is why as the thread has been around for long enough to be seen I thought they should deal between themselves rather than a public trial.
Do you think we should get another couple of mods? I don’t have the time to be here much and that looks the same for everyone else?
I already had to in the line. I will contact them, yes.
xander and Cstokes?
I still haven’t seen one new application since the switch to the new site…
@snuffster Right @miamimark An issue they are working on. I approved around 40 new members since the switch.
@alex @miamimark @snuffhead - it seems mateo/walt is back??
Who?
and where?
Yes where, I’ll keep my eye out.
He’s on ‘the burn’ - might just be an old post re-surfacing. @miamimark - a troll banned last year.
Yeah, I remember who Mateo / Walt was. I found a bunch of “evidence” linking the two screen names. I meant, what is his new screen name?
I’ve seen Walt pop up, but they are old threads that Pieter has been bumping up.
I’ve just noticed they were all old threads. I’ve just noticed there are quite a few requests for the trade thread to be made a stciky so I’ve made a new thread.
Fine!
Thanks, it seemed harmless to do without consulting first:)
What happend to snuffster’s account picture? Could it be to large Nigel?
I’ve absolutely no idea how I did that, I am the sort of blundering IT iliterate who does everything by mistake - a kind of IT Mr McGoo, as it were.
If you have problems reducing it, send it to me. snuff_head@yahoo.co.uk I’ll do it and send it back.
That’s a known bug (error) which will be fixed with an upcoming update of this platform. This means it will not occur in the future anymore.
Thanks Alex Picture now deleted. Will this fixed bug stop members posting way to large pictures like FischTix did on this thread? > http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/4698/pictures-of-your-snuff-collection/#Item\\_19 I See it’s now been re sized.
Wow. I hope this will be fixed two, yes.
Alex, FisschTix picture again. His pic is almost as big as a street advert. Then after my post on this thread I went back and it fitted the screen, and at the bottom said:- “Re Sized to fit” then later I take a look and it was big again. So there must be sum bug with this auto re sizing tool, or what it’s called.
I think there are bugs all over the place with this, I get duplicate posts, no posts all kinds, I just ignore it now. John, sorry but I don’t know what you mean by ‘send it to me’, I really am just at the sending email level with a less than zero interest in things IT!
Nigel, You can email me your picture and I’ll re-size it and send you it back. Then you can chainge it for the large one in your profile.
@ Alex, another large image that bleeds over the supporter shops. See what I wrote on ddavelarson’s “Snuff Spoon Give Away” thread. Maybe you well make a sticky asking members to resize? Edit: It’s now back way to large again!
John, I wouldn’t know how to change it, I don’t know what I clicked on to make it that big in the first place. It doesn’t bother me so unless it causes any technical problems Ill just leave as is, thanks mate.
Hi Nigel, fine. no bother. Alex will deal with this bug, I’m sure. It’s just that the large files use a lot of bandwidth. The auto re-seizer does not always perform, and then posters who post large images over 950 pixels wide bleed over.
To change subject, do mods still authorise new members? I’ve not seen any popping up anywhere since we changed over? Doesn’t bother me either way, just curious.
This is still to be implemented. I approve about 2 every day and decline 1.
By the way, what does the permalink function do?
I’m pretty sure it will link to a specific comment, as opposed to just a thread.
Exactly. You are able to link a comment from another discussion or even website.
How?
Right click at Permalink and copy the link. Paste that link anywhere you want and the reader can find the linked comment.
on another theme, there is a donate to snuff house button now - it might be an idea to post some information on this.
To Xander (Alex) & Chris, when he’s fit, LOL! Welcome aboard.
Ok guys, to business. Xander and Chris, a big welcome, thanks for joining the team. You might find moderating is different from being a member and that sometimes there is no easy answer, whatever, you will have our full support at all times. Just to clarify, I have bought the site from Alex, I am not his ‘new administrator’. To business, I have no intention of making changes for changes sake. In my working life I saw a lot of ‘new’ people do that and I have always detested that kind of throwing your weight about approach. However, I do have my own ideas and ways of doing things but I’m a team player and would prefer change to come from discussion - not from everyone, because I’m not running a vast committee (nor a democracy, let’s be honest) but from the people that make the site work - you. And let me say right off, whilst I own the site, any mod here is part of a management team. My first point of business is to re-invigorate the management team. To begin with I would ask each of you to respond on this thread (which only you can see) with your views on a) what has been badly managed historically and b) what you regard as the solution, plus anything else you feel is important. Let me say straight off, that I am looking for a zero tolerance approach to certain things: abusive behaviour, trolls etc. I would expect people like Whistlrr to be banned after one warning, and some immediately (like the guy who made the lynching N*****s joke) Also, I will be making public that politics and religion threads get canned immediately. I need you to have the confidence to make those. Decisions straight off. I’ll keep it at that for the moment. Please use ONLY this thread to discuss site issues so none of us miss anything and it’s an ongoing log of activity. On a personal level, I am, as we Brits say, well up for this, and I only see the site getting better. I will be quick time learning site admin, but learn I will. John will be deputy admin. Sorry for the long post but we have things to do!!
Hi all. I really don’t see much negative to say about the past, I think this has always been a great forum, better than most. My personal view of my role is to block or ban the very obvious trolls, immediately. In the past I let political / religious threads go on until they got ugly. Since we will have a specific rule, I feel comfortable closing these threads immediately now. That’s about it! We have such a diverse group here, all ages and backgrounds. No matter what we do, we’ll never satisfy everyone. As long as we have a strong team and we back each other up, those that don’t like the rules, will just have to leave!
Thanks for the feedback Mark.
I can only echo Mark’s comments above. It’s about the best forum on the web and for the membership numbers the behaviour on the whole is excellent, with just a few notches from time to time.
Cheers John. My personal feeling is not much needs changing, I think we are all going to be singing from the same song sheet. Ive asked Alex to sign Xander and Chris up, I don’t think they can see this yet. When I get a proper computer next week I’ll be taking over the admin properly.
New Mayor Nigel, New Sheriff John and all Mod team members: Thank you for the welcome! I had to read through 20 pages and 952 comments to get to that, but I would say it was worth it, becuase it was kind of a crash course in “How to be a Moderator.” I think I understand that a lot better now, plus reliving all the behind the scenes discussion on Whistlrr, Mateo, etc is enlightening. Also I appreciate the confindence you have in me by inviting me to join this team. I promise to use good judgement and fairness in all Mod decisions. I know I have at times in the past gotten a bit hot-headed, but then, most of us do once in awhile. This is why moderators are best as a team rather than individuals. I would not say anything has been managed poorly in the past, but there is always room for improvement. If too much leeway was allowed, I can’t say. I think problematic members have been ultimately dealt with appropriately. Sometimes a word of warning is all that is needed. The site in general could use some tidying. One thing is how long members should be kept on the active roster when their accounts have not been activated in two or three years. Second is really old posts with little or no pertinant information. A lot can be learned about snuff by reading all the old postings (I know becuase I’ve read them all). However, a lot of time can be wasted too by reading out of date or simply irrelavant information. (I know becuase I’ve wasted a lot of time on this. Deleting can also save bandwidth. I would not mind browsing trhough old threads and then submitting them forward for removal approval. Third is reinvigorating the old FAQ tab. Alex had an excellent one started when the site was young, but it is not very up to date. One aspect of it was a very good list of snuffs, with links to threads discussing each one. I’d be happy to do the work on some of that as well. In fact I have done a lot for my personal records already. Thanks again to all. I’ll stay tuned for future developments.
Also, who deleted my avatar?
I’m exploring, but not yet using, Mod powers. It appears I have the ability to make Bart an ISTA member, or even to make him the Administrator. I also can ban Alex! However, I cannot change my own status. lol
Hi Alex(Xander), pleased your here. I’m sure you will do a good job as a mod. Having read through this thread, then you will have a good idea, as what’s going on. Your avatar. was it on a web hosting site? I wouldn’t think anyone would delete it personally, Mind you I find sometimes reading this site on a smart phone can sometimes go wrong. I did ban NicotineRush once, by accident and had to cry out the Alex to re-instate him. Thankfully he was very understanding when I held my hand up. Big welcome, From John in Hull, Yorkshire.
Alex I would stay put for a day, or so. This board should settle down when the ownership is completely transferred.
John, no the photo was uploaded by me directly to Snuffhouse. Its no big deal, I can always upload it again when I get around to it, or a different one perhaps!
Hi Xander and all. I will be exploring all the admin side of things when I get off this damned iPad and back on to a proper system by next week, I’m also getting some instruction from Alex so I’ll keep you in the loop. Ownership has been transferred, because of the purchase, but the system is static as John says. It was just bad luck that I bought the place the day my old pc crashed for good. Don’t worry, just a minor and irritating circumstance. The main thing for me is that I have the team I want in place.
One other thing, I don’t see much mileage in the ISTA thing. I think we should just let the thing drop. Unless anyone can convince me otherwise the party line will be that snuffhouse will not be the platform for this circular, going nowhere discussion.
It just makes me laugh every time it is brought up!
Your call, but I will miss it. I will still hold out hope for it in some form.
There’s nothing to miss apart from the occasional discussion surely? I’m open to ideas, assuming anyone has any that involves them doing more than talking, but I don’t intend to keep pointlessly making people members of a club that doesn’t exist. If anyone does come up with something feasible I will look at the proposal with an open mind. It would need to be run by someone committed though. For myself, I’m out in terms of involvement. Feel free to be the notional lead on this if you like.
Okay, I’m here. Sorry for the lack of access the past week.
And here are my answers: A) Too many steps for mods to jump through to solve an issue. B) I think we have the solution right now. A more robust moderation team with more abilities.
I edited a post by Fischtix for language in the Japan thread.
That’s my feelings entirely. In my view the mods were only partially empowered to do their job before. That will categorically not be the case now. There is no right to be a member and there are rules. If you get a trouble maker or someone who won’t respond to direction you simply ban them and make a note on this thread. And my position is that a banned person stays banned. I don’t go for this time out approach, there would have to be some pretty serious reason for me to overturn and let them back. If you do moderate someones language be sure you also speak to them by pm and spell out your reasons. Any arguments and it’s goodbye. Just do the role safe in the knowledge that I Support the mods 100%
Welcome Chris, As I said earlier, this board, at the moment needs very little moderating. But before I mainly came down to sort out the spammers. Remember the firm in China selling tatty stuff? Stuff, not snuff. I’m sure between us we can keep this site clean. Snuffster (Nigel), as asked me to help him out with some admin duties, I agreed and as I have IT certificates, but no Website knowledge I too am on a steep learning curve. Nigel, You have my mobile Number, I personally held back my land-line No. I need your phone numbers place in my land-line phones memory as I only answer to calls that I know. It’s more complicated then my mobile phone, will have to find the instruction book! Reason I get that many Glazing firms and can we help with removing you debts, (that I don’t have) etc. Anyway:- It’s 01482 341986 But don’t call it for a day, or so.
John, just got my new apple pc so will start exploring admin tomorrow. I’ve asked Alex to upgrade you too.
By the way, my mobile is lost at the moment, use email for the time being John or landline if urgent
Xander, if you are happy to start weeding, that’s fine. No need to get approval for ‘what’s the best snuff’ mundane stuff. If a thread contains useful or unique knowledge just leave. I am happy for a FAQ.
Commence weeding, aye aye, sir! I’ll probably start with the two year old what’s in your nose/mailbox, etc. Also all out of date trades, etc. I think even the current trade thread I might cut any posts over 60 days. That way it stays fresh. I’ll make a note for users to repost if their requests haven’t been fulfilled in 60 days. I’ll get on that tomorrow.
so, snuffster is the mayor, Snuff head is the sherriff, and now I’m the gardener. lol
Nigel, why did you ban Bradmajors? He hasn’t been on in awhile, but I got on with him pretty well.
I’ve banned two people, both insulted me in one way or the other and deeply pissed me off. I thought he was an obnoxious individual. Sorry if you liked him.
John, upgraded you to admin.
And I’m the bathroom attendant.
Nigel, I more than liked him. He was my friend, and I don’t give my friendship easily. I will speak in his defense. First, he has not been here in months and is not here to defend himself so its really not fair to do this to him. I have to think about this some more, but I don’t like it.
Thanks Nigel, got the Dashboard and just declined one aplicant >ImmadoSixtoox (mcgilmartibis@gmail.com) It’s an Estonian IP address. Reason for joining:- fake dolce gabbana handbags, louis vuitton multicolor bags, britney versace purse, miu miu handbag clearance, chanel outsourcings handbags. Piecemeal, this had an bumping on the women of London. It is clear that these sandals will never be worn at a VIP co-signatory and finally not in the street. The fad shows are being organized from once in a while to time close sundry organizations in diverse parts of the world. This is why there is a aware stab to pull down secure all materials and processes serve the principles of ethics. Mode is a time so accepted today that I establish no justification to spell out it to you. Discover up with something fashionable if you in actuality have a yen for to start the fad tendencies that may insert round looking for more than five minutes; signs of fake fendi spy bags, burberry patent leather purses, yves st laurent raspail handbag, valentino glam feathers tote, balenciaga part time handbag. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And that’s only an abridged version of it LOL!
Declined a Russian, writing in Russian. On about iPhones!
Xander, I’m sorry you feel that way. I don’t give my friendship easily either and tend to have a long memory when people piss me off. I didn’t think this would be an issue in all honesty. Ok, I’m faced with two choices, be inflexible or listen. I will listen. You have spoken up for him, i will respect that because I don’t want yes men here and I take you seriously. He will be reinstated.
John, good calls.
Cheers Nigel, Been a funny day, just declined another this time with a long speel about Sat Nav. This one has a New York IP Address!
Thanks, Nigel. I was going to write to you at length about it, but I guess I can save my keystrokes now. He did have a particular personality, and I found it refreshing. I suppose it could conflict with another’s peronality, but suffice it to say I’d hate to see anyone banned just for a misunderstanding or a personality conflict. Of course I’m not privy to anything said in whispers but in what was said in public I saw some minor conflict, but nothing that would warrant an expulsion. Again, thanks and hopefully he will feel welcome again and come back (and not piss you off, lol). I also aprreciate the trust this shows you have for me.
Can members edit their posts? I don’t want to tell one to do it if they can’t, then I will look a fool.
yes, I think so
Xander, no problem. Never a need for long letters or anything, just frank opinions and we will look at any issues together.
Roger that. Cheers, Nigel!
To keep you in the loop, I have written to midnightmoses who was a mod here and asked him if he wants to continue. I’ve taken the mod status off his account but said if he wants to get back to it he is welcome and just needs to drop me a line. He’s not logged on in two months and one thing I don’t want is a bunch of sleeping mods as it were - you need to be regularly here to know the issues and to be a mod (and miamimark, I know you are about a lot of the time)
John, Im going to start weeding inactive accounts over a year if you want to do a few in idle moments?
Good call Nigel, I was thinking of asking about that only yesterday. Yep, I’ll help out with that, starting tomorrow. I’m up to my eyes at the moment. Got the message, I’ll look into the Dashboard for you and see what I can come up with, but think that will be tomorrow too.
Yeah, I’m almost always here, I just don’t say much! I am curious tho, I seem to the only mod that doesn’t see the new applicants. Edit: Oops! I wrote this a couple hours ago but didn’t post it! I seem to do that a lot lately, not sure why…
I don’t see new applicants
I did’t until Nigel made me up to assistant admin. I’ve checked in my tools and this is what I find.
I figured it was a staus thing
Nigel, weeding inactive accounts over a year. I had a quick go, you get a pop up with 3 options:- 1. Keep user content 2. Erase user content 3. Delete user content It’s your call on the option. Me personally would go for option 2.
John, 2, as discussed. Re the new applicants, until the change to the new version all of us mods were able to deal. Now it seems as though its just the admins. I cant see how to change it so it may be part of the site architecture of this version. Im waiting on a proper handover from Alex still and I’ll address this as well.
2 it is. I’ve pulled about 40 weeds out and still havent got into the B’s this gardening is hard work LOL! Regards the new applicants, I remember Alex saying he couldn’t give mods the power, on this version of the board. I attached the screen shot as I felt Mark was feeling left out.
@ Xander I think you can stop weeding. I just found a way that Nigel, or I can do it, in one quick swoop.
Thanks John, feel free to go ahead with that.
With threads like “OT-Inception” coming up, could we PLEASE bring back the OT tab? I have no objection to these threads, I just like them nice and tidy in their own section.
Well, how about OT (other tobacco related) for snus and pipe discussions and OT for everything non-tobacco related?
Good point, I am all for that!
I agree, thats what I intend too. However, there is no obvious way of doing it and I’m still waiting on a proper handover from Alex, but he’s not responding to emails the moment. Hang fire on structural things, they will get sorted in due time.
Ok, some technical updates. I have heard back from Alex and things like adding new tabs and making mods able to make new members are not possible at this time. It seems that the architecture of the site is fixed. I presume thats based on the instructions he gave to the developers. Leave that with me, if it can be done it will be, but Im dealing with other site stuff at the moment involving the transfer and thats taking priority.
Are the threads on the front page messed up… or is it me? A thread I posted last night has disappeared.
Apparently that thread was deleted. Did someone here do it or…?
All looks ok to me. Ive not deleted anything. This has happened to me before, ive had double posts, posts that didn’t show up and various other stuff. Ive also had posts that didnt appear when I posted them but did show up at a later log in. There is some kind of bug deep in the bowels of this place is my guess. See if it resolves or try a test thread. Ive not had problems for a while. If it keeps on happening let me know.
Just gone through various threads and made a post, all seems ok.
I think we should keep an eye on “roosterman” I think he has the potential to become a troll.
Ive not seen anything he’s posted yet, Ill have a look.
@ Chris, can you point us to anything? @ Nigel, I sent you an email, from my smart phone. Did you get it? Also I’ve pruned another 200 stagnant members.
Nothing big, I just see him having the potential to become belligerent
John, hardly been on for the last day or so, lousy virus at the moment, I’ll check. Keep an eye on rooster and don’t be reticent to take action, I’ll support any decisions from the mods re trolls.
Closed a thread that had potential for trouble. People starting to go into rants on “Don’t read this if you want to remain calm” thread.
We definitely need to figure something out with these worthless gigantic pictures! There should be a way for mods to delete them, resize then re-post them. It would be even better if the system would somehow limit the size. This picture on the trades thread is completely useless. Is there anyway to do this?
Never mind! I figured out how to do it!
The first time I looked at that post it was oversized, then I came back and the site had automatically resized it. However, it was still an over large file in bit size. The system simply resized it for visibility not for memory space. What did you do, Mark?
When I saw it, it was huge. I downloaded the pic, resized it. Then I went in to “edit” I erased the text that’s in the comment section that is the picture, if you know what I mean. Then I just re-downloaded it. Does that make any sense?
Yeah, I think so. Ok. Good job.
I say that if the picture is too big, it gets deleted. By us resizing every picture, the members are not going to learn to post a pic with a decent H&W.
There is some bug there re the resizer. Remember I had this discussion with Alex. Maybe best if we put up a sticky telling members to post pictures no more then 600 pixels across. Think I’ve now got Nigel’s Bug>>
Keep your bugs on that side of the pond!
Yeah, I really don’t want to re-size every huge picture or even download them to my computer. It would be nice if the system could handle it…
LOL! re Bugs! Now just to keep you all in the picture (no pun intended) As you know Nigel wanted very old discussions closing. Xander was going to do it the long way. I found a tool in our Dashboard. The prompt is Year-month-day ****-**-** so I put in:- 2010-03-23 then clicked save and got ! Fatale ERROR! I had to load this site back on my computer. Feeling brave I tried again and all went well. Or is it, on this mods thread I can still see page #1. Nigel, I’ve Deleted that date, and the Dashboard is as before. You may like to try, but I feel it just doesn’t work…
@snuffhead, I wasn’t actually closing any old threads. I was just deleting a few that contained no relevant or pertinant informaton. I’ve only found four or five and all were from 2007 except one newer one. I hadn’t made any concerted effort to weed yet, just a few random searches.
Another project I want to work on is providing an updated snuff list to our readers. The one Alex started back in 2007 needs a lot of updating/tweaking. I did like that he made links to relavant discussions on the snuffs in the list though. Do you guys think I should work on his exisitng list via editing, or start one from scratch. Other ideas, thoughts? Ultimatley it should get included in a FAQ tab if we ever get one. I don’t know if you guys remeber the *other* snuff forum SnuffTalk, but it had a intro page separate from its forum for general information, including an (incomplete) list. Could we do something like that here, or just keep it in a forum format with closed duscussions?
Hi all. Good work, thanks. Ill leave any picture resizing to you as you seem to have a handle on it. Regarding new tabs etc, its clear from talking to Alex at length that the structure of the site is set. And when you look at the extra admin part, which is very simple, there are no margins to do certain things. At this time, any changes to the site architecture are in the future at best. Lets leave that as an open topic to return to at some point. I am well up for things like FAQs and various bits and pieces. At this stage they will exist as stickies (announcements) Xander and Chris, would you be interested in working on that? You could both bring good things to it:) Can I just say thanks as well for the completely committed way you are all doing things, personally I couldn’t be happier with how things are going. BTW, good call on closing that thread, just read it.
Nigel, I’m still deleting stagnant members. You may like to make a sticky about posting pictures over 600 pixels across will be deleted. Could save Mark some work.
OK, the future FAQ can be a closed sticky if we can’t have a tab. That way mods can post in it, but otherwise it will stay clean. Yes, I am willing to work on that.
I’m willing to do whatever you guys would like. Has anyone ever considered moving to Proboards?
Weird, now I don’t see the “Angelic” thread unless I search for it. Even then I don’t see the last comment I added.
I wonder if it got sucked up into Snuff Head’s archiving vacuum cleaner. It was an old thread.
Ok that is quite odd. I searched for it too, and saw a bunch of new comments, but I had no notification that there were any new comments in that today, but it worked fine yesterday.
There have always been post and thread ‘drop outs’ on this version. Chris, Im sure there will be change at some point but Im not going to consider anything for the time being:) You guys would form part of any decision making of course.
Btw, Ive just lost my snus virginity: this stuff rocks! Skruf sterk loose, cant rally tell the difference between an average can of dip. Jakobson mint large portion, very nice and a purified menthol/citrus job. Im going for Onyx next simply because I like the look of the can. Im an advertser’s dream, me.
Re: The Angelic Thread; No It wasn’t me, if the button worked the tread would have still been there, but closed. I’m doing deletions on dead members before 2010, right now.
Just approved a Pole, living in Leeds UK. kashubian13, but watch him. I have some feelings, but I but it down to language. Kicked of a begging Slovakian.
Maybe it was swallowed up like my thread was… into the black hole
Well, I’ve just been looking at old pages. Every now and then as I scan through the titles, I see one that says “1 New” or “2 New” and sure enough is a post I had missed. The only thing in common with them is that the threads were started on the old snuffhouse, and then continued in the new one, like the Angelic Snuff. Yes, I think the site has ghosts. The undead spirit of the old snuffhouse haunts us. Anyway, if we can’t do FAQs in a seperate tab is why I suggested having a separate intro page like SnuffTalk had. It was completly seperate from the forum.
@snuffster welcome to snus! Skruf has quite a kick to it.
There are some things that Alex and I will be working on, to start this process off I have created a SnuffHouse email account. thesnuffhouse@gmail.com Password: snuffhouse2007 That is the email I will be using to create some of the pages for FAQ’s and such, everyone is welcome to use it for SH related activities. More info will be available tonight.
by “Alex” he means me.
Yes. Maybe I will say “Alex D.” in the future.
Graybeard does not understand about the private messagins system. He’s gone and posted his personal email and cell phone numbers in the activity thread. I was going to try and delete those for his own security, but I can’t edit that page. I sent him a private message, hopefully he will learn to use it.
Haha, all this time I thought the “activity” thread was just for us mods. I thought we could see the private messages.
I remember Alex had a “fake” account, without any special “powers” so he could look at the forum through the eyes of a regular member. That might not be a bad idea. I was a mod before the switch so I really don’t know what’s “normal” or not.
@Mark: We can use the SH email I made to create a “fake” member.
I just applied for an account under “allseeingeye”
haha, good one!
A bit of Americana and moderation…
Oh, the acct info is: User: allseeingeye Pass: snuffhouse2007
lol, but it reminds me of snuffster’s new avatar. Spooky!
@ Chris I just approved you as allseeingeye. I made myself a test account about a week ago “JohnB”
Can we call Alex Xander? After so long talking to Alex S. on here…!! Alex’s test account was ‘Tex’, I don’t think he ever used it. Chris is now the mods double agent then, good idea.
Whalen was slightly unsettled by FallbrookeGuy offering him a trade via pm when he doesn’t know him. I don’t see much to worry about and Ive advised Whalen but maybe keep it at the back of your minds.
FBG might be fishing for some free snuff via bad trading.
I could see Whalen on the Friday night chat, and he mentioned this. I asked for the user-name, because I had doubts about a new member I approved. It wasn’t him. He PM’d me, My reply was:- Hi Whalen. Sorry I’m late getting back, I was in my local on my smart phone and signals are not that great at times . So waited while I got home. Thanks for the kind words. The new member is not on my lookout list, but do be careful doing a deal with any new members. As a mod & assistant administrator I accept 1 in 4 applicants each day.Just hold
Thanks John, could be that FBG has lurked for months and feels at home without realising that no one knows him? Just a theory, in any case nothing needs doing at this stage. I let Whalen know that I had flagged it up to you guys.
All, take a look at ElvisParsley’s profile pic and see what you think. I’m not too terribly keen on it, but if you all think it’s okay then I’ll leave it be.
Lol, I just find that funny, but then, I’m at this side of the bond.
@ Nigel, noted abut F&G, I will keep an eye out.
It doesn’t bother me too much. Near the limit, possibly, but I think ok to leave.
Guys, I think we need to stop deleting accounts. I have been looking through old threads, and there are tons of ommisions due to deleted users. Maybe we should only delete old accounts without substantial post counts.
I would also wonder if deleting accounts could affect future advertising revenue?
Perhaps. It has been terribly annoying trying to read threads with patches missing.
@ Mark & Chris. You can put the blame on me. Nigel thought it would be good to kick out the deadwood. And I’ve been at it. It was yesterday, when Chris referred a new member to search, when I though, Oh! some patches will be missing there. I’ve now stopped. But in respects, I never found any problems. I guess I never look into the past. @ Mark:- I found 3 accounts dormant, Ian McCyristal, and two Willsons of Sharrow. I left them. Anyway both thanks for your input, We’ll wait for Nigel’s thinking. John
No worries John, I know the intentions were noble.
If its making our archive of threads meaningless - due to omissions - then stop. The only reason behind it was to delete accounts that have been dormant for a long while; simple house-keeping, nothing else. It seems odd to me that this happens, I’m fairly sure it didn’t on the old system. I’ll check this out with Alex when I can get hold of him.
Anyone remember what state “whistlrr” was from? Just curious, a long post from a new, female member. The new member’s from Texas, according to the IP. I looked up whistlrr’s old posts but they don’t show an IP address. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence…
She was from Michigan. I thought the same thing, Mark, she shure is long winded. I closed a “shipping” thread, since the last one drew some ire and badmouthed one of our supporters.
I googled her screen name, found this… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FdigQICCCs
Jeez, almost 8 minutes…
Oh, great. Lines of snuff… here we go again.
Oh, I couldn’t watch the whole thing… I guess my attention span is too short. I’m glad I didn’t post it on the intro thread, I almost did…
Zero t guys, get rid if she causes problems. I am not going to give chance after chance to people like whistllr. Working from my damn iPad again because I dropped my lovely apple optical mouse that is about as tough as spun glass!
She hasn’t done anything yet, the long post just reminded me of whistlrr.
OK, I’m home. Looks like lots of catching up to do. Wow, what an awful video.
Where you been, Xander? Out at sea?
Nah, just busy for the weekend and Monday. I can’t go to sea right now as my license is expired. I’m working on getting it renewed.
Yes how will I forget as a big Glenn Miller fan; “I’ve Got A Gal In Kalamazoo” That’s where whistllr is, or was! I don’t think that’s her in that video, she is a spastic and could only speak with an electronic device. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TurG8WeEQk4&feature=player\\_detailpage
@ Mark, I just checked the welcome new members thread! “maskedhedonist”, I see what you mean. Now I think the same. We will just have to keep our eyes out.
@snuffhead… I think it was a false alarm, here ip tracks to Texas, I’m told Whistlrr was from Michigan.
Think so, as I said, she used an electronic device for talking.
Btw, even if I don’t post I look at this thread twice a day at least, just so you know I’m about. If I’m not going to be around for any reason I’ll let you know so that you know it’s John and you guys in charge. If there is ever a serious attack you can take any action required to safeguard the site. At worst that could mean something like the porn attack two or three years ago, the action to take being banning the perp. I believe you have my mobile, if it’s off I check for messages at the end of the day. I probably could have posted this on day one, any way it just came to mind. Thanks folks.
noted Nigel, I don’t post a lot but I’m about quiet a lot. Busy day to day so far. Had one gut from Ohio wanting membership with one word intro’s He Tried to get in three times! Also one selling Viagra from Luxembourg, another e-cigs. Oh! I did accept one with a short senceable reason for wanting to join…
Hey guys… do we have an “official” policy about these “question about delivery time” type threads? They are getting pretty boring to me and I seem to recall one being closed recently.
I say close them, especially if they involve a sponsor.
I’m with Chris on this.
Close with the words ‘refer to retailer’
Why smiling?
Just a little ‘check in’ grin.
the troops are getting restless. I really better get working on that proper glossary, or else they will come up with another of their own!
Nigel you just had me wondering too. I’ve just closed a thread opened by Henwrench - “Snuffers Glossary” I had visions on how it was going to go!
@ Xander, SNAP! You will do better.
Just to keep you all in the picture. I’ve declined over 10 spammers from Luxenbourg on Monday. Nigel check all new applicants IP’s.
Im looking at new applicants too, refusing more than I allow at the moment. An applicant should have something to contribute and unless they make sense they don’t get in. The thing is just from my police days; you would write ‘seen and noted’ on duty logs etc, it just showed the folks that you were around and interested even if you didn’t have anything to add, so just means ‘Hiya, I’m here if you need me etc etc’
precisely
Noted
OscarWabbit has been acting a fool. I’ve closed a thread and warned him with a ban.
I think I would have deleted the whole thread.
Done. I also wanted him to see my comment.
Anyone know what to do about Oscar?
Have you ever private messaged him?
Not yet. He wants to air it out in public.
What happened?
He started a thread bashing Dave and the prices of the scotches. It was pretty abusive in nature. Debbie tried explaining it to him. He also posted twice in the “Sweets” thread about the same thing, calling Dave a thief and highway robber and such. So after I threatened him with a ban, he started a thread about that. I have a screenshot of that if you want to see it.
sure, that would be fun for me to read! Good job. he needs putting in place now and again.
Here you go
thanks
Thanks you guys across the pond. I’m usually home on a Tuesday but I was out with ermtony. As the landlord of out local is retiring. I did see some of the later posts on here in the pub on my smart phone. But don’t like doing much in the admin as it is so easy to press the wrong button. I’m home now on the desktop, feeling a little worse for the locking, Almost 0200 AM here in the the morning when I left! You will understand I don’t want to make decisions. with drink. So if you think Oscar should go then myself, or Nigel will do the job later. Edit I was forgetting you do have a ban button.
My line on this is that if he speaks out of line again he goes. I think he is one of those new members/snuffers that just all of a sudden becomes a big shot expert, you see them once in a while. Good advice Chris and you certainly operated in a proportionate way, but no more warnings. The hard fact is that this site is not a public funded place where people have a right to be - its a private members club. The slightest further upset or insult from him, flag it up to me or John and one of us will ban him. If I do it (or John if Im not about) it signals that there is a management process on the site that is active and that you are plugged in to. Apart from emergencies - and then don’t hesitate; a member posting repeated obscenity or hate based stuff has to go immediately - I would like to discuss any bans here first. Well done mate.
My view is that since dave pays to advertise here, we must look out for his interest.
I disagree. If Dave did something dishonest, we should not protect him simply because he paid to be here. Legitimate complaints should be addressed in a legitmate fashion. However, we must also be vigilant for slander (libel?) towards any vendor, maker or individual.
Of course, but Dave did nothing wrong in this case. The last thread that ran against Dave was allowed to go too long. SnuffHouse is not the place to ask where your package is, that is why retailers have email. In both cases, shutting down the thread and then dealing with the issue were?would have been the best choice.
Yes, fair enough.
It’s not about sticking up for advertisers, because we are not their bodyguards, it’s about the way people behave. He can vent whatever he likes about anything in the snuff arena, but not by ranting and discourteous language. I have a relationship with the advertisers that is now a business one but I’ll never try to come between them and what some punter wants to say. The point is they have to say it with the same amount of respect and courtesy that we expect of anyone else.
User: allseeingeye Pass: snuffhouse2007 going undercover for ahwile
I got bored too fast. I’m back. Tech issue: clicking the last page number at the bottom of the main page (currently 137) won’t take me anywhere. I tried this both as me and as allseeingeye.
henwrench’s new avatar? A chicken about to get its throat slit? I eat chicken, so I don’t take issue with the chickens dying, but I’m not quite sure it sits well with me as an avatar. I might agree with capital punishment in certain cases, but I don’t want to see someone getting hanged in your avatar. Am I being too sensitive?
Let’s always border on the thick skinned in our moderation, but if you find it unacceptable others will. Have a quiet word and ask him to change it. Thanks for the ongoing care and concern that the mod team always shows, I really appreciate it.
The current home page is 137, that’s why the numerical link doesn’t take you anywhere, because you are already on it?
No, the current home page is 1.
Im out of ideas then:)
Possible some old pages got lost when the board was updated to this present version of Vanilla.
Ive sunk ‘will Mr Snuff be filling the nicotinerush void…’ Starting to get slightly politicised. At this point I will just see if it floats away without further issue, but if anyone notices a governmental tirade just close. The sink thing is a very nice little facility, you can let stuff thats not deserving of a full shut down just slowly disapear with every post and no one is the wiser.
Roger on that…
Another “problem with Mr. Snuff” thread… It seems like this guy joined Snuff House then posted this thread immediately.
Hi Mark, I only let him in a few hours ago. But he does say he has been emailing Dave. I think it is best if we watch this thread, but not close it,(yet). So as to give Dave a chance to respond.
Ok. Critque is great so long as it’s constructive and mannered. But, this is not the place for issues with retailers and questions about orders etc, so vamoose anything like that. I’ll probably put something out to that effect. I’ve closed this one because I think we need a definite line on this. All issues relating to orders, mailing time and the million other things that people get disgruntled about have to be taken up with the retailers, following on from Oscar’s rant I think that’s the best course. The counter argument, of course, will be free speech blah blah etc, but we are not an industry watchdog. General comments are fine but minutiae threads about orders are not our business.
Yes, obviously he joined for the sole purpose of posting his problems with Mr. Snuff. If he was even a “lurker” he would have known we just closed a similar thread a few days ago.
I’ve just put out a one liner ‘don’t post retailer complaints’
Nigel, I’m going to lock that one for you.
That’s fair enough Nigel. You know the rules we should all read before signing up to join this forum, we I’ve been looking for a way you can add:- “This is not a forum to post complaints about retailers” So far I can’t see a way.
I don’t think there is short of altering the site architecture. I will leave the ‘don’t’ sticky for a while, then it will just be a matter of folks learning and new members being told if needs be:)
Thanks Chris
Yes just leave that sticky up. In future any complaints or questions like we just had will get closed as I see them, with a note similar to yours.
Agreed
He’s in London, so if he pops another thread like that you can go and pay him a visit, LOL!
No problem. Or I might just get one of the East London ‘firms’ to bury him in Epping forest. I still have a few useful numbers.
LMAO!
They are anyone’s for a squashed parking ticket…
Watch Livemydreams. He has started another thread on white elephant snuff. Also it looks like he’s done commercial!
OK, I’ve deleted his new thread and edited out his commercial in the other White Elephant. He may get the message it was commercial spamming (giving the price & get yours now).
Guys, please delete any of livmydreams posts where he is peddling snuff. One thing that’s not happening is me paying for him to run a snuff retailers! I’ve pm’d him and told him. Anyone seeing him start a new thread selling stuff ban him on the spot. One or two members got involved so any complaints just remind them of thevfacts of life. I’ve just seen another one of his threads and deleted it (as opposed to closing)
Keeping watch.
I see that the Maryland thread is on sink mode. Kudos to whoever did that.
Was here on the start of the thread. It’s bound to go haywire.
Retitled the “trades” thread so “new” doesn’t make it look old. It will just be the standard place for trades, as I also deleted older postings there. I also direted Livemydreams to make a single simple post in there for his offer.
Thanks Xander, I don’t have a problem with that but effectively running a business from a thread is out, good job.
Does ‘buying snuffboxes’ still need to be a sticky? I only meant for it to be up there a week?
I don’t think so. The stickies are becoming a bit crowded.
And if it is so popular it will stay high anyway.
Chris, thanks for closing the snus thread. Whalen has just opened another and I have added some comments.
With respects, I just keep clear of them threads, don’t need it, don’t want it.
What is happening with Elvis Parsley?
Xander ? link me, if you will.
Check the 6Photo thread. Chris deleted a comment, and now he’s making a stink about it. I’m curious as to what the comment was.
He’s an idiot. First he said something along the lines of “I would never use indian snuff because it is a 3rd world country” and then in another post he stated “enjoy the fallout”. I won’t allow someone to bash India as much as I would allow them to bash the US or the UK.
Ok, good job. I’ll keep watch on that guy. He’s been trouble all along, but hopefully he can play by the rules now.
Actually he called it dust, not snuff. Yes, he has been a mild troll the whole time.
Once Nigel sees the thread, and makes the signal, I will delete all of the corresponding comments so that the thread stays on topic.
Probably has a bit of drink in him. He’s in the UK and its late there now, so now is the time when the kids get rowdy.
I’ve just read the thread and comments by EP. Chris, good work. As far as I am concerned any member - especially a brand new one who doesn’t even know us - who starts to rant at one of my mods is history. I’ve banned him and deleted his entire account and history. As he is not crucial to any series of threads, or their meaning, I opted to remove him completely, that means all his comments are now gone so no need to trim any discussions.
So sorry I let him in , in the first place. But then he must have had a valid reason for wanting to join.
Not your fault, SnuffHead. You could not have known how he would be. I’m sure he did have a valid reason to join, but he also wanted to be a jerk, and probably thought he was funny.
Absolutely no blame involved. We take people in good faith and every once in a while we get a jerk. I really do believe in acting quickly and not giving endless chances. If someone acts like this after a week or so of membership they are going to cause problems, so good work on this one.
FYI: I will be out of town until Sunday night, so I probably won’t get on here until Monday. Hope you all have a wonderful holiday.
Thanks Chris, and you too. I will be away for a week commencing Easter Monday btw.
Both have a good time, I’ll be around. To keep Elvis from returning.
Thanks John, you da man. I’ll be on my Mobile if anything extreme happens but I’m sure you are equal to anything that comes up.
Hey guys… I just discovered, I can’t make the icon different than my profile picture, is that correct?
I think they are one and the same.
Just deleted some old posts in the trades thread. I hope everyone has gotten what they wanted.
Right guys, off on Monday but so much going on til then that I doubt Ill be much in evidence, have a great Easter.
And you too Nigel. Now no worries, the board will still be here when you get back.
Lots of new members I see in the activity section, even Prof. Griffiths!
Xander, He is genuine. I did a full check.
Pretty cool!
You men, I’m getting about 10 applicants a day and about 8 just get rejected, stupid, spam, and all. I got the message this morning:- Reason to join our forum? - Phillips Griffiths. Now anyone could have said that, So I check his track back to his website, then into his quest book. Nigel wrote in there, and invited him. LOL, and I welcomed him.
So let it be sure I’m keeping the rubbish out.
Well… I’d be more apprehensive if I received an application with the name “Sam Gawith”! LOL
They do Look in.
I have locked the snuson thread with an explanation…
Good move Chris. I must say I never read that thread, as I’m only into snuff. If you have seen the thread earlier about Roderick (Toque) will be charging mail, from the end of May. It just got messy, I admit, so much on my part by asking an American, what is a gas station and me saying gas is supplied in a pipe to my central heating. Anyway been on the phone to Roderick and I agreed to trim it and close it.
Keeping an eye on the Tibet snuff thread. Maybe he’s just making discussion, but we had a goofball last year pseudo-selling Tbet snuff, or probing us for interest. Can’t recall, but I think that snuff was some kind of amphetamine?
Yes I approved the member yesterday, said he was in China. I checked his IP and it was genuine. I know what your saying, we’ll watch.
Hi guys, back now, thanks for everything. Just got in and will catch up tomorrow. So the Prof joined? Excellent!
Hi Nigel, all run smooth. But fed up with a lot of Russians & Luxenbourg trying to peddle woman’s gear & porn. They got the boot. As for Prof. Phillips G., He asked for membership, and I accepted him but he hasn’t posted. Guess he’s just been lurking. Hope you had a good holiday. Get settled back home, I’ll still keep my eye out, until the moment your ready. John
Thanks John, just looking through stuff now.
I’m beginning to think it might be nicer without Oscar the rabbit and Transistor around the place. Any views?
They’re both a bit annoying. There also seems to be an influx of people that cannot spell to save their life.
I say give them some time to really give us a good reason to chop them, but it’s your call Nigel.
I agree, John. OW will earn his exit soon enough.
Yes Chris, I personally think Ocar is a twit. Now Transistor seems ok, I know he may get the red mist but he’s PM’d me couple of times saying sorry did I upset someone, have I broke the rules? when really he hasn’t. But we’ll watch them both.
I think Oscar can’t control himself when drunk. He’s mentioned this in posts. I watched the little spat between them, and they seemed to resolve it themselves, so I did not interfere. Chris, I apologize for my spelling too. Actually its more typos than mispelling. I type too fast and make lots of mistakes, and then post without double checking.
I’m not speaking of you, Alex. I am talking about post like this: why is it that i cant smel the arooma or the sent fo the snuf? Or: Wha’ts youre favrite pipe tabacco?
I dethesht pore speling. Watch and wait with regards the drunken rodent and the small electrical component.
Rabbits are lagomorphs, not rodents. I know you wanted to know that.
Transistor was right.
I bow to your superior lagomorphic knowledge. Maybe the wabit’s habit has exacerbated his natural tendency to oblative nasal breathing thus causing him to whine like a lil girl?
Prob’ly
Good ol wikipedia
yup
PremiumParots created a thread:- Happy Mothers day. I edited to… OT - Happy Mothers Day. It must be an American thing, but mothers day here was 3rd April. No problems with that, but he never got any replies for hours, so asked if anyone had a mother. Then some stupid remarks came. I closed the thread. And I’ll delete the full thread later, if that’s OK by you gents?
Fine with me John.
Go ahead John
Having just read it I decided to completeley delete, I don’t want those remarks on here in connection with mothers day. Thanks for pointing it out John.
Just signed in you just beat my to deleting LOL!
Gents I copied you into a reply I sent to Outblackjack concerning a complaint about Brandasaur not keeping his end of the bargain on a trade, I hope the system has allowed you into the discussion. Our strict policy about disputes over trades has to be we don’t get involved and we are not in a position to police the trade thread for anything other than our usual high standards of behaviour. We can neither arbitrate or settle private disputes that by their very nature are one word against the other. Clearly, we can not take sides and ‘warn’ one party after an allegation from another. Should anything shift from a dispute to a criminal allegation - by which I mean a deliberate attempt to defraud using this website as a vehicle to do so, our standard and only response will be to advise the complainant to seek legal advice, although in practical terms that type of situation will probably be an extreme rarity if indeed it happens at all. Cheers guys, Nigel.
I can’t see the discussion.
That’s happened before, so here is a cut and paste: ******************************************************************************************** Nigel I see Brandasaur posted a trade but yet he never did follow through on my end of the trade I made with him. Below is a link to reference this. http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/comment/143546/#Comment\\_143546 I just figured I’d give you a heads up on this… Cheers, Steve outbackblackjack 2:52AM Nigel never mind I guess Brandasaur is finally going to do the right thing and send me his free sample of the original “Trial” Gingerbread snuff from Molens (1 of the 10 given out). So who knows stranger things have happened like http://tinyurl.com/68v48p8 if I do receive anything from him I’ll be sure to let you know and post it to the thread above. Sincerely, Steven. snuffster 7:37PM Steve, these things are strictly private and at members own risk and neither I as the owner or the mods will get involved. That’s not to brush you off in any way but we can’t settle disputes about trades and I wouldn’t police the trade thread in any way apart from to ensure civility is maintained. Very best wishes, Nigel ********************************************************************************************* Mods I have put a short note on the trades thread re disputes. Btw, in the unlikely event we ever did have a serious allegation we would just close the thread and open another identical one so business could continue and the ‘evidential’ thread would be secured and available for inspection.
Nigel, I noticed that outbackblackjack had bumped up his older complaint thread, presumably in response to Brandasaur’s activity. I suppose he feels he is warning people. I’m not convinced he’s right in this disbute, and I agree we don’t take sides or arbitrate. However, he did have Brandasuar’s personal info posted boldly in there, (his full name and full street addres). I think that’s violating a bit of personal privacy (even to a guilty party) so I truncated the info to just his last initial, and home city/country. I also warned OBBJ to settle this.
Good job Xander. I’ve closed and sunk it.
Absolutely correct action thanks. No way can we have personal details posted like that. Whoever is in the right in terms of the dispute we can’t have it turning into a public slanging match, it’s their issue not ours. The trade thing is not a right and if it becomes a source of hassle it goes. (Edit, I wouldn’t want to spoil it for the vast majority, probably better if troublesome traders were just debarred from the facility?)
I edited the gratuitous use of ‘fucking’ out of Cmorgans post. I don’t mind swearing in certain, occasional circumstances, I mean we all get upset now and again, but as a punctuation; nah. Just one to watch, Ive not bothered messaging him.
I guess I opened a can of worms with cmorgan. Oh well.
Cool off, let it blow over. Yes he’s annoying, but don’t let it get to you.
I’ve said my peace. I really don’t have a grudge against him, I just wish people would use a little bit of common sense when typing.
I do too, it is very annoying, but I can’t make them. If I tried its an effort in futility, and often antagonizes the recipient. So I don’t try, usually.
I agree, we have to be adult. Usually I wouldn’t have bothered with the edit, I just find people that join and immediately start cursing to be an irritant. Just a foible, maybe even a weakness. I come from a world where every other word is a curse and I find myself getting gentile in old age. Thanks for the continued dedication and excellent level of moderation, you guys are the premier league.
I have been sinking most of cmorgan’s postings. FYI
Ive just read his comments to you and his reaction my edit, I messaged him as follows: “Actually I edited your post for the use of ‘fucking’. I just don’t like it and as I own the site that’s how it is. This is a gentle mans club in effect and some decorum from new members goes a long way. I hope you will understand, you will find a welcome here, but it’s not your local bar. Best wishes.” Any argument, he goes. My unalterable view on people that walk straight in and start arguing is that I don’t want them. If I was spoken to about my attitude on day one I would apologise and that would be it; people that don’t have that approach are in the wrong shop. Sure, we can’t force everyone to speak in the way we demand but he is brand new here.
I think the way he has carried on from the start that he’s heading for the chop. I was checking his IP in case that happens and he tries to come back in. We have a small problem, his IP changes. I got two, 92.21.191.190- &- 94.15.17.48 Both show the location as London UK. We can’t block all new applicants from London so it’s looking out for his writing style.
Does anybody object if I just press the button now? I had not come across him before but evidently he’s not what we want here?
I’m indifferent. Wait and see if he mouths off to your PM.
He’s gone. We’re under no pressure to put up with anything at all here, lots of great members and I’m keen to keep it that way. Had I know he had been difficult from the start I would not have messaged him.
Nigel do you have the website that gives you IP locations? I’m sure he’ll try to come back. >>> http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation
Ok, no problem if he does, just keep a look out, he’s no big deal.
I closed Walrus1985’s thread OT - “Euro vision Song Contest” Now Walrus is no problem, he could see that I closed the thread. He came back with another thread “Sorry,” e’s OK about it, (Just an update)
Thanks.
think I’ll delete it to let him not suffer the embarrassed moments, it was OT anyway.
Deleted a mildly politically provocative comment from Spyro about some New World Order nonsense.
Xander, that’s great, with me.
And me, even mildy political is too much - one political comment is just one comment away from an argument.
Nigel, has Roderick seen a drop in sales since he stopped advertising?
Nigel, I have edited your OP in the trades thread. Let me know if you agree.
He has seen a drop, Ive just done a deal that he can live with.
What have you edited exactly? I don’t see any difference.
I see what you mean, my original post was still on there and I didn’t see yours. Yes, thats fine thanks Chris. I’ve removed the original.
I just wanted to clarify the rules in the trade thread.
No problem mate, good idea. BTW, Alex and I have just finalised the transfer of the site from his ownerhip to mine. Ive posted an announcement with details. Im not anticipating any problems; this should have been done weeks ago but we had a few issues with the host company.
Ive just drawn together our recent policy decisions on one thread btw
Just deleted a whole “rapture” discussion. It was up to 14 comments so it must have been running for awhile, I just logged on (ita about 2am here) so I guess the house was not being watched. Actually the last half of the comments were in surprise that the thread was not locked or sunk, lol. I just deleted the whole thing without comment.
Rapture!! Was that a piss take over me posting that policy thread do you think? Who started that one, I think they need to be raptured off the site because this sounds deliberate; on the policy thread I’ve said religious threads will be closed. If you have not read it can you have a look; it was clearly started on the same day I posted that.
Yeah, I read the post. The policy is sound, and clearly stated. All the drunks comng home on Saturday night may not have noticed it yet. There was no sense of it being deliberate, and the tone was more joking tounge-in-cheek stuff. I think it was Snuffy, but might have been one of the new guys. Not sure. I was in a hurry to read quickly before I deleted! But who knows who will be offendend by it, joke or not. So I just put it out of everyone’s sight before someone got miffed and started a fight. In other news, Nigel you and Chris have personal messages on the “Activity” tab.
Well thanks for your timely and correct intervention. I have pm’d Vikas.
By the way fellows, I have a quantity of Toque snuff coming - Original, Rose, Gem, Natural and Plain Toast. If any of those are favourites of yours let me know and I will mail some to you; a small thank you for all the work you put in.
Ive slightly altered the policy to cover offensive posts and any advocating illegal activity. The last bit is to cover the marijuhana posts that occasionally pop up. Just to re-assure you that I have not suddenly gone all dictator on you - this is something I have meant to do for a long while but just never got around to. I also asked Alex to do something like this. Having a published policy lets everyone know what the standards are. Hopefully people will understand it is just to keep the site a great place to be.
I always wondered if you could force new members to fill out a checklist before they’re granted membership. They would basically have to agree to certain terms. I think some people do the wrong thing without realizing it. I think that would also help with “spam bots.” By the way, I’m leaving for a 8 day vacation on May 29th. I’ll be in Bimini, Bahamas. I will have wifi and either my tablet or laptop but I’m not sure how much time I’ll be spending on line! Here’s a link to where I’m going if anyone’s interested. http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p217493. I’m taking a girl I met online and we’ve only had two dates!!! I was supposed to take a different girl, we had a fight and she canceled. I asked the new girl, she said yes, then the first said girl wanted to go!! A lot of drama going on over here… Weird, I cant make the link work…
Haha! Sounds like an episode of 2 & 1/2 men. Have fun Mark.
Haha… one of my friends said that since my soaps are going off the air (yes I watch them, I’m home all day!!) I decided to create my own. Girl “A” lives 3 houses away… this is not gonna be fun… Thanks Chris
Just to say I’m back and reading the mail. I’m a fan of Formula 1 and it takes second place to snuff LOL! Mark, have a great Holiday… Nigel I just emailed you
Quote, Xander.“There was no sense of it being deliberate, and the tone was more joking tounge-in-cheek stuff. I think it was Snuffy, but might have been one of the new guys. Not sure. I was in a hurry to read quickly before I deleted! But who knows who will be offendend by it, joke or not. So I just put it out of everyone’s sight before someone got miffed and started a fight.” No criticism, I know how it is easy to get in a hurry to delete bad postings. But remember you can quickly copy & paste into Notepad for future reference, before the deletion.
Ok, thanks John.
Certainly no criticism - you did the right thing - but in future if a thread is deleted on policy lines lets make sure its copied first. That way we can discuss it more effectively as a team. It does seem a strong co-incidence to me that he posted what was obviously a piss taking (even tongue in cheek) thread on the same day I posted the policy. I will ignore this as Xander took the action needed at the time but a joke thread about the ‘rapture’ is still as likely to cause a war, ie people that don’t find it amusing start going over the top, as a serious one. I know he’s very young but if there’s a next time something will have to be done. I don’t want to make the place look like a totalitarian state (even though it is one) and if his next attempt at humour isn’t malicious maybe just some words of advice. Hpe it all works out Mark.
Almost forgot: Nigel, if you click the Activity button you should find that I accepted two applicants a day or so ago. I then banned them! They where Spammers I pressed the wrong button in accepting them. No big deal, but just satisfies any questions.
Whenever I click on the applicant section all I ever seem to get are those full page-length pieces of gibberish, presumably spam software, but why are they always that long?
7 out of 10 are long story’s that I get Nigel, and of course rejected. You don’t read them do you? LOL! They come from Luxembourg, Russia & China. Or is Whistlerrrr trying to get back!
Nigel, I just been into the spam settings it was set to 8000 comments. I’ve changed it to 2000. if that’s too many, or to short then I’ll adjust it. All other span settings are great, We haven’t had spam on this site since I emailed Alex in Germany, and that’s when he asked me in as a moderator.
I didn’t think they were actually written by someone, I thought it was more of a software type thing. What does changing from 8000 to 2000 mean?
It cuts down the typing rubbish, from 8000 to 2000 characters, maybe that is still to long. We’ll see.
Just Close This Thread. What’s wrong with snuffhouse??? transistor 3:40PM IP: 50.9.250.110 It keeps disappearing! It was taking me to Vanillaforums and every link I tried brought me to their website! Also, the night before, (5/23) I was trying to post a comment and I couldn’t. This forum is having some weird technical issues. Just thought I’d bring it to your attention. SnuffHead 3:49PM @ transitor, Rob, READ BEFORE YOU POST! This discussion has been closed. Transistor who is Nashville Ten USA. and shoots before he can see, it seems.
hmm
Hope that was OK Nigel.
Of course, the ‘hmmm’ was directed at transistor, lol!
He really is a dummy - trying to open a new account because he couldn’t sign in, needless to say I declined.
Nigel, Transistor opened Transistor3 account, which you approved. You’ve seen his message through davelarsen’s post? I wonder if the problem is on his end? Although when we switched over to this forum in January, I had problems myself a few times.
Ok, this is state of play at the moment: 1. Alex transferred the ownership of the site to me on Monday. This comes with some natural and expected disruption to service which we expected to be over by Wednesday. 2. It seems that the host company is having problems of its own; my emails just get bounced with a message saying they are having system problems and they are not answering the phone. 3. I approved Transistor’s new account purely to see if that was a way round getting key people back on the system (I thought you were also down). Basically I spoke to John to see if he could get on and he said he was also locked out. I told him to re-apply but saw Transistors (Johns application didn’t even come through) So he was a bit of a guinea pig, although he didn’t know it. I have had several other people try that route; I am declining them and have updated the announcement. 4. Alex emailed me as people were also contacting him; his belief is that we just have to wait this out, and he is an IT guru at the end of the day. I will keep trying the host but ultimately this is going to run on their clock and there is no way around it. All we can do is tell people to be patient. Clearly a lot of people can still post, why the rest can’t is a mystery to me but as you say it may be something to do with their own configeration? Nigel
I can’t make a guess, Nigel. I only pick up bits and pieces of IT knowledge here and there. I would guess John has the most background in this being a ham radio and electronics veteren. As you see, I have had no issues with the transition on my end. I don’t understand the nuts and bolts of it, but if someone explains it to me, I usually can grasp some of it. I do know that a good rule of thumb is to make sure everyone has their browser software updated to include the latest fixes-debuggings. Mine is set up to do this automatically, but I still have issues from time to time. Other than that, you are probaly right and we should just be patient and see if the host resolves their own issues. Chris are you getting on? You’ve been quiet.
Yes, if some people are on that seems to suggest a user end issue; my PC is brand new and top spec and I experienced no problems at all. I will keep trying with the host company nevertheless.
I can’t get on at home, only at work. Since I decided to clean out my history, I had to log back in and thats when I hit the speed bump.
Ive aborted trying to ring the company; they are just not answering the phones. Im away for a couple of days from tomorrow and back Monday, hopefully things will resolve naturally - I think we just have to wait this one out.
Ive now had some response from the company and Ive detailed the problem fyi.
I’ve just broke in! Nigel I need to go out right now, But if I have found the way in I’ll PM, or email you a little later.
Problem fixed. Login possible.
Yes I found I could just get in with my email address., it’s John SnuffHead, on here, at this moment not snuffster. Nigel, please change your password now for you own security.
@ Alex, many thanks. It was the User name Password, problem. that was the problem. Again it it SnuffHead. I must close now
Thanks John, that gave me a start as I had no recollection of posting the above!! Ive changed my pasword.
Nigel, is it ok to phone you right now?
Try my mobile in 5 minutes (btw, I hardly ever use the land-line, mobile is always the best option)
-.-
FYI, Mark cannot log on. Here is a screen shot:
I can get on with IE.
That error message went away, now i can get on SH with chrome as well…
I just saw the “Applicant” tab and looked at it. There was one spammer to which I denied access. Anyway, I don’t see the tab anymore. Was I given a new duty, or was this a fluke?
A fluke. There is something fundamentaly strange about this version of the site; somewhere in the bowels there is a 1 that should be a 0. My theory anyway. How was the bike ride?
I could not bring up the Statistics most of yesterday via our Dashboard. Then later I got an alert that Java needed updating to Version 6 update 26. then after I downloaded it, and installed it all was well. I’m not saying that was the root cause of it, as I’m no website whiz kid. Another strange one is, some one wanted to upload a picture, (it was the thread with the Hedges L260 mug) and all there was the icon to download to the computer. I broke-in, and via edit and uploaded it correctly for him. Then later I find there in still the mug, but now two smaller sized mugs too!!! Sometimes this site is crazy. I’ll meet someone tonight that builds his own business websites, I’m going to pick his brains.
There is a problem somewhere thats for sure. Mods, see my comments on the hookah thread. I had a pm from transistor asking me to close it, which I haven’t in favour of putting a warning on the thread. I think he’s going to be going soon. Please close or warn on any drug discussions.
I’m going to delete all of the post pertaining to marijuana. I’d like to keep the thread open.
Another strange one! Nigel, I don’t see any comments you made on the hookah thread, nor what transistor had to say. By the way I deleted his transistor2 & transistor3 accounts a few days ago. So if I missed something, and it may be transistor that your thinking of chopping, then he wont get back with his other accounts.
Good ride. Thanks. I’m still a bit stiff though.
I just saw the applicant tab again. Guy seemed legit, so I let him in.
John, I think you may have looked at it after Chris deleted some of the comments; which included my warning to transistor. Transistor is fine when he is not all riled up, he’s just another one of those angry types. Well, he’s been warned and he pm’d me back apologising so I hope he can keep his temper reigned in.
Nigel understood. Yes Transistor some time back came PM’ing me pleading he didn’t want banning as he like this site. so lets hope this time he heeds your warning.
I would much rather get someone to just behave as per ‘club rules’ than ban them, so maybe he can just turn it down a notch. I hate banning someone who loves the site and contributes regularly.
Yep I agree. By the way some changes have been made to this site, in the sign in box it used to say:- Email Address Password Now it says Email Address or User-name Password
Did that happen spontaneously?
Don’t know I just noticed it!
Has anyone else noticed that Roderick’s thread “Thuoc lao, Rustica - The bad news and the good news” seems to keep reproducing itself?
Yes Mark, I did some Tests this afternoon by starting new discussions and then deleting them finding I could not get is to do that. Sum funny things go on in here!
It’s like f’n groundhog day!
By the way some changes have been made to this site, in the sign in box it used to say:- Email Address Password Now it says Email Address or User-name Password Been looking through the Deleted (hidden) posts and a member mentioned this on the 7th Inst. But then he deleted it for some reason! edit: It was nightcap in the Decanted snuff thread.
I have deleted 2 more of the Thouc Lao threads. This forum is odd.
I know, its been garbage ever since Alex made the initial changes. I am now collating these on a technical thread and I will take them up properly.
What is everyone’s thoughts about Premium Parrots posting a link to snuson?
Ive just seen it! See my comments, but as of now that type of thing is completely banned, although that shouldn’t have to be spelled out. Please close any link to another company or attempt at using this site as a business platform. Should PP argue you have my blessing to ban him. Thanks for pointing it out Chris, not a thread I read too often. I’ve tidied the thread up a bit, deleted PP’s and your post so it reads coherently with my comments.
And by the way, I have complete trust in you guys; this is a very switched on mod team, so if something strikes you as wrong you can take whatever action is required; I will back it. But, of course, steer things in my direction if you would prefer I dealt. Its tricky being an active member as well as a mod. I appreciate I’m in a slightly different position now but I was one of the first mods and I know how it feels.
Ive just re-jigged the trade conditions on the top of the page.
Everyone ok? As I said a few days ago I have some bulk Toque that I am happy to share; so far only John has taken advantage. I have now decanted some but available is Rose, Natural Toast and Natural. I had planned on sending you all a kg as a thanks for the committment and enormous amount of help in keeping the site in top condition. PM or email me your address if you would like some.
Ok Here Nigel, that thread of Roderick’s “Thuog lao Rusticca” seems to now behave. Unless another mod has been deleting them. I think is was last Sunday when I deleted the last five copies that I could see.
I deleted one right when it was first posted, but only one. I’m keeping an eye on the tec thread (nice cat picture) and when I have a good batch of issues I will be speaking to my contact at Vanilla forums. Thankfully they mostly seem to be irritants as opposed to serious stuff so hopefully easy to fix.
That’s Scampi. I posted another one, and one of my other cat Tiger on the OT: Pets anyone thread. As you say, the issues are just a nag. Not serious. I get the feeling that they are still working on this version.
Nigel, your not going to believe this; Note my last post 11:47AM, another “Thuog lao Rusticca” came up at the same time! Now no nasties on this computer, I’ll again delete that one. A few min. ago I posted my short Silver Dollar reviews, now if this stirs up Roderick’s thread. I’ll resign LOL!
lol, Ive just got posted all our faults to the web developer so hopefully we will get sorted in the near future.
New member - belogogie - had a strange photo of a little kid as his avatar; just a touch…odd. Anyway Ive changed it and told him to put something else there, not suggesting anything but its generally good practice in my view on an adult site.
@snuffster Yes, Ok here. I just don’t have much time this week for the site, though I do try to check in daily. Next week I will be home again and I’ll be back on here more. Well you’ve offered twice, so I guess I can say that some toast would be good to have in bulk, since I have none. Thank you! @Snuffhead: yes I deleted two rogue Thoc Lao threads sometime last week.
Cool, no problems just wondered if your all ok. Right, 1kg of toast to Xander.
Re the PipeMopers issue; the below is a cut and paste (because the messaging doesn’t work) of his pm to me and my reply: Hi, I never meant to break any rules on this forum or the trader thread. I try to stay well within the rules, however I guess the rules changed. I had a notice in my post directed at the admin that if there is a problem to please whisper to me and I will correct it. That notice was there forever, however, I went to edit my inventory a week or so ago and found that there is a limit it the number of charactor per comment. So I had to edit my comment to shorten it. Its possible that this notice to the admin may have been deleted on the post. I sell snus to members that live in high tax or banned tobacco states/countries. I have quite a few members that really appreciate that I do this for them as some have no other choice on how to obtain their tobacco. I make about $5 to $7 max. per roll. After my time and expenses I don’t make anything. As a matter of fact sometimes I lose money on these deals. Sometimes I do trades for my tobacco products. I do this as a service to my friends on snuson and snuffshouse. To my knowledge no one has ever had any negative comments on what I do. [except possibly that questionable comment posted the other day]. I only get positive comments and much appreciation for helping the members out in this way. In short, what I do is certainly not a business for profit. I’d like to at least post short comment and a link to my snuson auctions if you don’t mind. Please let me know. thanks
This is the second part; my reply, which I have had to post seperately because this piece of expensive shit can only cope with a few words: Hi PP, thanks for your message. Firstly let me explain something: this has nothing to do with negative comments or the opinion of any other members. My intervention was based on the following: Snuffhouse cost me a great deal of money to buy and costs money to run. Therefore I run it as a business and all of the advertisers pay for their banners. As I said on the thread, this is the real world and I will no more advertise any commercial outfit for free than they would do the same for me. I also run this site with a view to integrity: I will not allow free advertising when I am charging people like Toque, Snuffstore and Mr Snuff; all of whom, by the way, I have great relationships with. Simpy put: it would not be fair. You mention providing tobacco to people in various states of difficulty: I am not a tobacco evangelist, I don’t want to be, I don’t see any need to be, I am a snuff hobbyist who runs a website for other snuff hobbyists. I do not feel any obligation to combat the rules of any country that makes purchasing tobacco difficult for their subjects. I will be blunt now: everybody else who runs a web business has to get the thing going and pay for it - should I bear the costs for anyone that wants to sell tobacco on the net? I have taken the time to resond in full to you because you are a regular contributing member; to be honest I would have ignored any one else. That said, and because I value your membership, I will allow you one post explaining your venture and ONE link on the same post ONLY; but if you want to run a business you will have to pay for it like everyone else. Nigel
I can see your point on this Nigel. I mostly raise objection to the link to Snuson. Why should we allow a link to that vat of vitriol. The way I see it, you only go through the trouble of buying snus and then re-selling it if you are making money.
Nigel, you can blame me for the cut off in messages. I brought it down to 2000 characters to stop windbags like Whistlerrrr posting long rubbish. I did mention this, I’ve now put it at 5000 characters, see how that goes.
Guys, I’ve now had a fairly lengthy discussion with PP, which would start to get insane if I copied it all here. I just can not properly copy you into things on the message facility: I seem to be able to put John on discussions but not Chris, Alex or Mark for some obscure reason. Just one further failing of this version I guess.(John,no probs re the words: I wasn’t aware but don’t change it!) I have agreed that he can put one basic post on the thread with one link, but no more. As with everything on the site I have to balance my natural instincts (years as a police manager, sorry!) with some flexibility. I was ok with his reasoning for one post but please moderate strictly: I think he is aware he has a good will concession here but not free will to take the piss.
Good grief, don’t send me a whole kg, Nigel! The postage would be a fortune! Plus, I’d never see the end of it.
Dont worry about postage…Chris and Xander Natural toast then.
@ Nigel what is Roderick’s problem? I see you posted he can’t get in here.
He can’t post - when he tries to he gets a big text box come up with ‘you dont have permission to do that’. I sent a link to the tec fault thread to the support for this site, its been logged and I have a job number so I know its being looked at. Computers are just to darn complicated.
@ Xander and Chris - I know I had you addresses but I can’t find them, could you kindly send me your mailing addresses, pm or email if you prefer - nigel.mccarren@yahoo.co.uk
I was thinking you could send him that other way in, but it may only work for admin. Best leave it to the site techies.
I think so.
I Looked into Roderick’s account, I see no blockage. This is a strange one. But Strange things seem to happen on here. We will just have to wait.
I have deleted 2 more rogue threads. Welcome to the twilight zone.
Cheers. I await some feedback from the IT people at area 51.
Watch the thread about picture warnings on tobacco advertising. Ive posted one warning, I don’t see it lasting to be honest.
I think it went too far with the Muslim comment so I closed it. Mark W will not last long with commentary like that.
See my pm.
Guys, Mark W made a fairly harmless comment about Muslims but still enough to have caused a lot of argument without need, I’ve warned him, without going overboard, but if he carries on…
I just read the thread. The insensitivity of the comment notwithstanding, he’s factually wrong. He can’t distinguish a Native name from a Muslim name for one, and in every Muslim country in the Middle East I ever went to, cigarettes were the norm. I’m pretty sure they are born smoking. American cigarettes were better than cash for bartering too! His other comments are also quite ill informed, but of course he’s free to live in his own private Idaho as they say.
I was reading the thread and notice Mark W’s comment, I didn’t think it to strong, but as you say could lead into trouble.
I pm’d him, said that I believed he didn’t mean any offence by it and asked him to keep comments about Muslims out of discussions just on the grounds of common sense and he accepted that without any problems.
That must be US joke, but It really ticked me.
@Xander: He was getting on my nerves as well.
I figured as much, and chances are if both you and me are bothered, so are others.
Guys, my router has crashed and I am being sent a new one but it won’t be with me until early next week. Im using a library PC at the moment but its a bit of a hassle getting into town so I am going to be absent for a few days. Please take any action over any issue; you will have my blessing. John will be admin til I return. Cheers guys:)
I’ve done as Nigel asked me to, put out a message on the quiz thread and now it is temporally closed again. Edit: Nigel beat me to it, he’s been to the library.
Just checked in again quickly to deal with the competition. All looks ok.
Why is everything to do with IT a fundamental pain? Back after fun and games with my router and getting, as the tec support at AOL said, into ‘encapsulation mode’. I’m too old…
Anyone delete a thread by transistor recently?
Not I. I was going to ask all of you what it was about?
not me
he probably hit “back to discussion” instead of “post comment”
I haven’t deleted anything either. I have hit the “back to discussion” button by accident tho… many times!
Not me, I notice he said on his thread, of some new competition, was deleted. Marks & Xander’s exclamation seems right, done it myself. I’m also thinking Transistor post’s before thinking.
Ok, thought it might be that.
Transistor just posted on his thread that he wanted to run a competition because he felt bad about winning the snuff. Any competitions at snuffhouse will be conceived, run and managed by us - because they have the potential to be divisive and generally cause problems. I have explained that to him. He seems a nice guy just slightly stupid.
Well he wasn’t that stupid to win that competition. But I know what you mean. He has cried to me a few times. “John, don’t ban me I like this forum, it’s my life, sorry if I posted, without thinking” blah blah. Been into the Dashboard, His thread he was refering to does not exist. (It would not have been deleted by any of us, just hidden) Just You Nigel, and myself can delete permanently. He did press the wrong button.
I think he won the competition by dumb luck.
Alex, I didn’t attempt it, I was thinking of going down down to Bletchley, they crack all the codes there.
I don’t think he cracked the code himself. Once it was cracked by one person, word spread as to what the question was. Then people started throwing out street names, some thoughtful, but most random. If you asked an American to name a street in England, the three most common answers would surely be Downing Street, Abbey Road, and Penny Lane. Now two being from Beatles lore, it shows just how far that culture has permeated. To be fair, I think the answer he gave was actually “Abbey Lane” - conflating the Beatle song and album names. So, if Transistor says he feels bad about winning, I beleive him, as I would feel slightly cheated by guessing it, and not coming up with it by wits, and also knowing others were not guessing randomly but actually trying to deduce it.
Sure your correct on that. And you won’t believe this. Long, long time ago to took part in a cycle race that rode into Penny Lane, Liverpool. I lost concentration. ended up in the back markers.
lol.
Going on a non racing cycle event this weekend: The Delaware Doublecross. We’re the only state you can cross (and re-cross) in a matter of hours at our narrowest area. RAGBRAI (across Iowa) is the most famous, but it takes several days. I’m doing the double which is only 62 miles!
Best of luck, I’m 70 years of age in a months time. Any Zimmer frame races out there?
I don’t even know what that is
This lol!
Ok John, lol. Anyway, I’m no racer, so I’m sure you’d still whip me. Just adding: if you want to talk bikes or radio or stuff, we should move this to a private thread. I’m sure we’re boring the other dudes.
Dont worry about that Alex, this thread is for you to moderate and also to chill out in general if you want:) Just to set the record straight, transistor’s first answer was ‘Abbey’ - that fit in with the question so I gave it to him. There was a ton of bitching about how people were using other sites, but actually no one was getting anywhere until I posted the full key and more clues - I gave it away almost, and de-coding was simple at that point. Someone got very snotty because I technically used ‘regent’ wrongly. It was meant to be ‘regnant’ of course. Nearly banned him on the spot until my wife, reading over my shoulder and amusedly watching steam come out of my ears, said ‘men are so pathetic sometimes’. She had a point and I did a quick bit of growing up/breathing deeply. Would one of you guys like to run the next one? Any theme or method. Roderick will put up a box of SD or similar. This time I stumped up for a tripletec myself, but I wouldn’t expect you to have to do that. Good or bad idea? I would ideally run it at the end of summer/early Autumn. 70? John you are still a young man!
Don’t like quiz’s, Nigel. I get enough with the Works & Pensions & Inland Revenue buff envelopes popping through my letter box, LOL! Alex thought you would be interested in this small radio valve (tube).
Now thats a damn tube!
That’s pretty cool! Wow.
Chris, if your into radio. I had four in parallel push pull. in my Transmitters PA!
Sorry John, I have no idea what you just said LOL!
I don’t have an idea for a new quiz, but I will think on it. I have a PC Double box that I really don’t use. I can offer that as a prize. Its a real nice box, but its really hard to pinch from unless you have tiny hands. It would be great for many women, I think.
And I don’t want to bore you people on here, just say I had the output power of over an average American Radio Broadcast Station.
And probably blacked out your neighbors!
Xander - cool John - is that seriously a valve used in radio? Looks like a lighthouse bulb…
I didn’t have nice neighbours at that time. I blocked out the Dutch ship to shore, also. Nigel, it is a radio PA Valve. Lighthouse lamps are mostly of a tungsten filament, about 1000w (the prisms magnify them) and look like a giant domestic clear lamps. Or they did when I last walked up all the stairs to the top of a lighthouse!
ecky thump lad…
Power, lol!
Unkei asked me if he could offer members some merchandising which without thinking too deeply about I agreed to. I’ve just firmed it up and told him he can make a one off offer on the trade thread, post a link but deal with everything via his own email, but not of course run a business.
Test
WTF??
Ok, seems to be back to normal on IE
Same on chrome…
Sorry, it was me who broke Snuffhouse this afternoon. The main thing is I repaired it!
???Ya kiddin! I thought it was just me, what happened?
Can you post that STE banner John?
That’s what I was trying to do. I’ll try again tomorrow I did enough damage today LOL!
Are they a sponser now?
In a sense. They’ve had a snuffhouse link on their site for a long while, but I am also part of the STE project because I’m on the writing team, so it’s mutual interest really.
John, thanks for that btw.
Finely got there LOL!
Looks good.
Not sure who sunk it, but I’ve closed that odd thread by Petersuki. Strange to say the least.
A weird one for sure.
With all respects, I thought it was an American thing, that a Brit, like me don’t understand. It was me who sunk it from the very first post. Just not wanting to be too harsh. Has Chris as closed it shall we delete it?
Is some odd balls out there. Just declined someone. Reason for wanting to join this forum? I love looking at ladies knickers while watching tennis at Wimbledon.
John, Petersuki is from the UK!!!
I hold my head in shame, If I had checked his IP address then he would be cut. Sorry Chris.
He must be Polish.
He must be Polish.
Was that a double post or do you just feel strongly about it?, lol. I must admit I always think Poles live in Poland or the US.
It was this site Nigel. But I must admit to seeing double yesterday!
Just pulling ya leg. There must be the ghost of Mr Fribourg in this site or sumfink
Nooor, it was My Treyer, or our mutual friend Vivian Rose.
Please forgive my drunken frogs post. Episodes of bad behaviour can happen to the best of us. Is Mr Rose in the hereafter now? I would put him at about mid 80’s. I hope he is still taking snuff from his large Nathaniel Mills snuff box that was always at his elbow. It was very like your own John and it was filled to overflowing.
Not really sure, I would say if he with us He would be near to ninety.
I suppose. Lovely old gent.
This is looking like the old snuff house again. A small suggestion: Make the FAQ thread limited access to post discussions.
Ive just noticed. Vanilla needed a bit of coaxing but they’ve come good at last. Chris, I agree with that. Mods only. I will open a quick thread and explain. Will have to see about actually limiting access instead of just saying it is. How is the FAQ project going on? Do you want to post something to be going on with?
I just tried putting in a couple of explanatory posts on the tabs and they also showed up in the general discussions, which makes it all slightly pointless! Hang fire until I get vanilla to sort this out. Chris, Xander - I want to put the FAQ under your management; a site within a site as it were. If you agree its run entirely at your discretion and anyone wishing to post must have your agreement.
I like the potential these new tab features have. Good job! For the FAQ, I will get some questions into this week. I forget how far Chris and I got before, but I have not worked on it for awhile. I’m open to suggestions as to what questions should appear there. A word on the review tab. A few reviews have already started and look OK, but then other memebers simply treat them as discussion threads and just comment instead of review. Would it be possible to limit a review thread to one post (editable) per member?
I second that Xander. I think it would be much cleaner if it were kept to a minimum. I will copy and paste everything that was on the other project, no need for it now. Much better to keep everything here.
Thanks for moving the glossary, Chris. I am doing some tweakng on it now to make it look a bit cleaner. Its a work in progress, and defining things correctly is harder than I thought it would be. Nigel, besides the mod team, I’d appreciate the help of ermtony, MIB/Red Star, Filek and Snuffgrinder, and of course PhilipS if he is inclined. These guys have enough knowledge combined to fill volumes. Can the FAQ be set up as a wiki space, with approved members being allowed to edit?
Is there anyway we can make filters on the search feature? I just tried to do a search for “Taxi” and got every result but.
First off guys, let me make clear, in the nicest possible way, that there are going to be no more changes to the site, any time soon, in terms of its physical set up/functionality. This is simply because every change causes some kind of problem that I have to spend ages with Vanilla rectifying and I want simplicity and stability above all else. We will, on a case by case basis, and in time, start to address the things you mention but not now. I believe, from speaking to various people, that there is a fundamental error somewhere in the coding of this new version. On the surface its little things like double posting and strange dialogue boxes opening up but at deeper levels the system is unstable. As far as I am concerned, the site has never worked properly since I took it over - my sole purpose right now is to take it to a place where it functions on a basic level, all of the time; then we can get into refining. Apart from anything else, Vanilla have shown they are simply incapable of dealing with more than one issue at once. I am reliant on Vanilla because even Alex (Schaerd) could not figure out how to do certain things. At some point today, Vanilla will take away the category box and we will have three fields - the home page, the review tab and the FAQ. To post you click the tab as normal and post as normal. Posting rights will be dictated but not part of the site structure. This means there will be a post on the FAQ saying ‘this field is managed by Xander and Cstokes, no posts without prior permission’. That will do the job, we just delete any rogue posts and ban the rogue if needed. I would like to leave this entirely in your, Chris and Alex’s, hands. So when we get rid of the category box post whatever you need in accordance with your game plan. Your collaborators are your business, and as a matter of courtesy I will not post myself unless I have agreed with you because I want the FAQ to be thematic and of your style, although if I see anything rogue I will act for you. In the case of reviews, they will not be allowed to become discussions. I will spell this out and take responsibility for closing them on a regular basis, although all mods please help out with this as and when you are on site. Sorry for the long post - and not giving you everything you wanted. We will deal with the IT matters, you have my promise on that, but lets just get the site into calm waters first.
Ok, Nigel that’s fine, I think we can work with that. Its just a matter of deleting rouge posts then. A simple set of rules for each tab should prevent most of them. It would be nice if the Articles and OT categories could remain, especially the Articles, as its a place to have an archive of published material about snuff.
Nigel, I think I can make it so only mods & admin can post in the FAQ. I also found how to get rid of the categories in the side bar, but put it back. Because Vanilla wont want me dabbling if they going to do it.
John, actually I was going to invite outside help (some of the above names mentioned) to help with the FAQ. Basically a wiki space with one of us approving who can post there. I was basically pre-aproving them, if there are any objections (or additions to suggest) lets discuss them.
Ok Alex, it was just that Nigel did ask if I could do that. The problem is I can only give 3 permissions:- 1-Admin only, 2- Admin & Mods & 3-All members. It would be Nice if I could give 4- Admin Mods & selected members. We’ll wait till Vanilla do their tweaks and see what Nigel wants.
“selected members” lol, finally a use for the ISTA!
but then, would it only be readable to “selected members” or to all members?
All would be able to view.
Ok, thanks for understanding. John, leave any changes for Vanilla - lets not confuse the dear souls - but if they have not done what they said they would do by tomorow, make the changes and I will let them know we have it cracked. Xander, Chris - Just work out what you need/want and arrange it between you guys and John. My only stipulation is that the FAQ is stand alone and under your control. I wouldn’t give you a part of the site if I didn’t have complete faith that you will make the right decisions - so all contributors, permissions decisions are yours to make. I will only be involved if you want it for any particular reason. I suggest that ‘articles’ forms part of the FAQ and your remit. Regarding the reviews field - John, Mark (I know you are there!) and I should take the main responsibility for looking after it - so regularly close the individual posts so that they don’t turn into discussions. It might sound a bit unwieldly but it should all run simply enough. And in a couple of months we can look at the most pressing IT issues and solve them item by item. All agreed? Issues? Personally, I think its this level of discussion that makes us the world’s best.
Haha, yeah I’m always here, just quiet as usual! I posted a comment yesterday but I guess I didn’t hit “post comment.” Do you think the supporter shops will be OK with their ads being below the categories?
I don’t see why not, they don’t strike me as being that precious.
On a seperate note, have any of you chaps thought of writing for the STE? We should have strong Snuffhouse presence on there.
I have more PDF’s to upload but I need to split them first.
I am reviving a lot of old SH FAQ stuff, Xander, please feel free to edit where needed!
I’m getting a blue screen for some discussions
Yep, I’ve just had that. It may be Vanilla - I have just emailed the guy who is doing the work. A good example of why I am inclined to leave the nuts and bolts alone at this stage. Ill probably have a week of emails and hanging on the phone to sort it out.
We seem to be blitzing the home page because the posts are still duplicating. Might be an idea to cease activity until the threads are seperated.
Could the “Do not click tabs” sticky be removed now that the reviews rules have been clarified?
Done.
Nigel just a heads up that I am merging some things from the “Articles” area to the FAQ. I would like all of the info in one spot, streamlined.
Ok, I have just bookmarked this - what a roundabout way of doing stuff, at least it seems to work sitting there on my menu bar. Just to update you all - the mods thread is hidden because of the new set of permissions - for some reason that I can’t wrap my head around and according to the last I heard from vanilla last night, it is not solveable. At least we seem to be up and running again. Chris, sure, whatever you decide is how it will be. At least we have some of the functions we always wanted now. But I’m not dealing with Vanilla again any time soon!
I can see this thread now…
My bookmarks are not working so I have to go through the link.
Same here Chris, this is a blo&&y pain!
Same with me. In fact I had this bookmarked before, but for some reason the bookmark won’t stay. Other bookmarks do stay. Also when I go through the link it goes to the first page of this 30 page thread.
My theory is: It seems that you need to have the most up to date versions of everything for your computer to cope with anything Vanilla does, which means if they are using high spec gear they don’t bother to make changes that all users can cope with because they are all 12 year old geeks. Try dealing with them; even if you tell them you don’t know anything they still send you technical, jargonised messages. Some people just don’t get we don’t all love IT for it’s own sake. That’s my theory and it gives me comfort so I’m sticking to it. Am I right in saying that apart from having to bookmark this thread everything is ok now? No problems working on the FAQ side?
I’ve three computers and a HTC smart phone, and I keep my software up-to date so that isn’t the case. You no doubt will be right about the 12 year old geeks. The main drawback now with this setup is that we don’t get any indication if there are new postings on this thread. An other is I tried to reach here last night on my HTC and got so fed up scrolling to get to this latest page. I bet Mark will have the same problem. I’ve been in the dashboard opened up Categories, then Moderation and found all that all the switches in the Admin/Moderation are in the correct places. I knew nothing about websites when Nigel invited me to help him. Now I’m thinking I know as much as the geeks LOL!
You probably have a point.
No problems with the FAQ so far, but I haven’t been in there today yet. I came here first. I do still have problems with the bookmark. I can bookmark other threads but not this one. I won’t show up on the sidebar, and I have no idea how to find it otherwise. I came again through a link in the PM from before. This time I will bookmark this page on my internet explorer instead of the website. I wish I knew more about IT, and/or had the time to learn it.
I know about as much as you by the sounds of it, when I bookmarked it appeared on my explorer bar but however much I tried not on the side of the site. The FAQ is looking good guys.
http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/5220/the-snuff-takers-ephemeris The thread title is misleading, as this is a tech error note for the admins.
Alex, Nigel have been in touch with me. If that link doesn’t come back, I’ll edit an re direct it later. Please leave Toque’s banner here. It is important.
Nigel, I got your gift today. Thank you!
Wow, took some time, Chris got it 2 weeks ago. He’s got some rose as well if you want some, Mark yours too if you want it - so arrange between yerselves.
Indeed, still trying to conceal the scent. Kind of works like an air freshener. PM me if you want some Alex. Can’t believe yours just arrived. I think you are closer to the arrival point as well.
Nigel, if you were to change the catagory for this thread to “general” would it still only be visable to us? I think the catagory is what makes it not visable.
Really? Well, I just had a look at the package to see if there was a customs hold up or something. It had a stamp on it that read: MISSENT TO JAMAICA. So I guess that’s where its been, lol. No worries though. Plenty to share if you want some, Mark. Chris, I’ve got Wilson’s rose in bulk, so I won’t need any rose in a long time, but thanks.
Haha, did the package pick anything else up while it was down there?
Chris, no idea to be honest. If John can fathom it by all means try it.
I tried that a few days ago, for a few seconds it was visible to all! I think that was when Mark said he could see the thread. Back to the drawing board!
I think we have the site running as well as it ever will. It’s like a house that’s on the point of falling down - you don’t do any work unless it’s a 100% neccessary.
@Xander - Jamaica!
Yes, Jamaica. Whoo hoo! Haven’t been there in years. This snuff has had a good voyage it seems. I remember my first time there. I was a cadet on a ship, barely 20 years old…well…I had a good time. lets leave it at that.
I thought you were joking!
I am working on the Smith’s section of the snuff list. I want to make it as accurate and as up to date as possible. Nigel, you are the closest, so if it doesn’t cost you anything to phone them, could you call and get their current list of Smth’s brand snuffs? Currently I only have previous and sporadic forum posts to go by, and out of date lists. Also I have two phone numbers that I have found. I put both up. Can someone verify these, as I am not used to UK phone number formats. I presume one is domestic and one international.
I will deal with Smith’s, I’ve just tried a few times but constantly engaged, but I’ll sort it out one way or another even if I have to visit. Which phone numbers? There’s a lot to wade thru and I can’t see any.
I have their phone number as 0171 836 7422 To call from America it would be 011 44 171 836 7422
I also tried to phone them and it looks like their phone has been cut off. Hope it is not the end of the line! But with the attitude of the present proprietors I wouldn’t be surprised.
01 hasn’t been a London prefix for about 25 years, so I’m guessing you are getting that from the ‘All about snuff’ booklet? The number is 0207 836 7422. Well, I rung them and it turned out quite interesting - something like this (I may turn it into a short play): Shop guy: Hello, Smiths snuff shop… Snuffster: Hi, I wonder if you could send me a list of your snuffs? Shop guy: Yeah, sure, no problem. Snuffster: I’m from Snuffhouse by the way. Shop guy: Ah, we know it well. Great site. Snuffster: Ah, excellent, well I own it, I’m Snuffster. (waits to be told how much of a global contribution he makes to the snuff world) (silence) Snuffster: ehhr…? (sound of a deep inhalation, pins dropping, a slide being pulled back and snapping sweetly into place) Shop guy: We were all incredibly offended by the things you write about us. No one likes to be offended, we just couldn’t understand it, why would you say stuff like that, we were in tears, we do our best, if only people knew how hard we work… Snuffster: Ah, er…right. Can I have a list. Shop guy (sobbing gently): I’ll mail it to you. and on. Fuck.
Sorry, it’s a number I gave ermtony for his website, I’ll get him to change it. So it would seem if our american friends phoned they would use:- 011 44 207 836 7422 That little story made me LOL! Mind you it is very similar to what Tim of Snuff Store related to me on his visit. He asked if they would supply him with snuff, and they almost chucked him out on the pavement. Alex you may like to try that above number, if you get there just hang up, it will only cost you a few cents.
Maybe they have it in their pretty heads that they are actually good at what they do, rather than having ruined the last snuff shop in the world. Just a hunch.
Really? They knew who you were? Well, the story is both sad and funny. In the snuff list under FAQ I have the address and old phone numbers, someone can edit me and make sure its corrrect. I may try and call.
I don’t know if he knew me or was just using me as an aggregate for their pain and woe. I must admit, and this doesn’t happen that much, I just let him ramble. I didn’t offer any apology because everything I’ve ever written about them is true, as I see it. But he was called a ‘fat, cockney wanker’ by someone so he maybe thought that person was me! Anyhoo, the dialing code into the UK is 00 44, then remove the first 0 of the domestic number, so Smith’s domestic is 0207 836 7422, international is 00 44 207 836 7422 - no added + or anything (it’s never explained very clearly and people try to dial +, its entirely numerical) I have edited the Smith’s number.
That was knee slapping funny. That will have me chuckling for the day.
Ok thanks, Nigel. Hopefully they might be inspired to (shamed into) get their act together before they drve themselves out of business. I would much rather people singing their praises. Seems we were down for awhile but are back up now. As soon as my clock hit midnight everything started working. I could get to my profile and inbox, but not anything else.
Me too, that stupid ‘bonk’ message came up and I couldn’t log in. Btw, you may have noticed over the last few months a couple of posts about Abraxas snuff. The mysterious maker of this snuff is your truly. I chose to be anonymous because I own this site, am a 100% involved with it, and felt that if I started going on about my own product people might feel I was using the site to milk them - I am not, for one second, arrogant enough to think my name would sell anything (I think the opposite is true to be honest, what with all my rules and regulations) but I did not want people who I have a lot of respect for thinking I was attempting to do that. I have been making small amounts of this since I was about 16, but using bought plain snuffs as a base, so it was always just for me and a couple of people I had introduced to snuff - just home blending with added ingredients really. Last year I made some from scratch, from my old recipe, but using some raw tobacco I had. A few people seemed to like it, including Dave from Mr Snuff, who asked if I would make some for his site. So, I have and it should be on sale in a few days. It’s a tiny test batch so no one got samples apart from Mick Hellwig because he is giving me an ad in the STE. I wanted to let you know about this simply because you are my snuff buddies. I don’t intend to keep it secret forever, just until the test batch is online and sold, then I will just let it come out however it does, I won’t be making any big announcements, not that I expect anyone to care but just on principle. The first decent sized batch will be on sale in about 6 weeks at Mr Snuff, or here, or possibly both. Don’t waste any money buying any of this batch - not assuming you would, just in case you were curious - when the snuff that is currently maturing is ready I’ll send you all a couple of jars. I have about 10g spare of this batch which I will send to John for him and Tony to review - basically it’s cheaper and quicker for them to get it and maybe review. So, thats my little secret out of the bag, sorry for rambling on.
Cat out of the bag indeed. Well, I’m glad I know. I won’t say anything on the forum. But I do look forward to trying it. Its got to be better than Magnet Peach at least Bob sounds like he’s already made the connection, between the description Mick gave and the snuff you made before and were giving away.
See if you can sell some to Smith’s!
meeow!! lmao! Bob’s a canny lad.
Awesome news Nigel. I had a hunch Can’t wait to try it!
Well, looks like Spam has added his idea as well.
There. I tried to put them off the scent a bit by raising some doubts. hehe
Nigel, you asked me the other week if I can filter out all that porn rubbish that gets posted on the applications. Sadly I can’t. There should be something like:- Why do you want to join this forum? Answer in no less then ten words and a maximum of (say), 50 wards. But there isn’t. I can only find ways of cutting down people like whistlerrr to stop rabbiting on to long, once they join. And I tell storeys too
You tell very good stories!! No problem with the porn thing, we just decline as usual. I think altering the application procedure would mean employing Vanilla, which I won’t do unless we have a crisis and the site stops functioning. Once bitten and all that…
Alex and Chris, what’s lined up for the FAQ? Any further developments planned? Its looking pretty neat at the moment with a nice spread of articles. Just something I’ve been vaguely mulling over, but how about a ‘masters’ thread? We could ‘elect’ a couple or three ‘snuff masters’ and give them a thread on the FAQ, with a wide brief to write something from their own experiences in snuff. We have some of the most knowledgeable snuffers on the planet here - might be nice to recognise them in a non too serious or pompous way. Maybe have an election thread and let the members vote or just ask a couple if they would like to be masters? I’m sure none of us mods would ever claim that title, but I would suggest we are not electable for obvious nepotistic reasons. I’m just chucking an idea around here, if you decide its not a good one, then that is the end of it, completely your call.
I think its a good idea, Nigel. I’ve been pestering experts to share some wisdom with me to work into the FAQ. So far they are agreeable to the idea, but not always actively forthcoming. Snuffgrinder gave me some things to think about. Maybe if you gve a few people a place on there by special permission they’d jump on it more readly.
Have a chat with Chris and see how he wants to play it. I could then just invite them - I’m thinking Tony Barr and Phillips, or if you wanted to involve the membership I could start a little election. Let me know how much, if at all, you want me to be involved and how/who you want to proceed.
Btw, the second, larger, batch of Abraxas is about three weeks away from being ready - this batch was made by a member of my family to my specifications. I was sent some yesterday and I have to admit its mind bendingly good. I will make sure you all get pre-release jars of it, but it will cost you a review! Obviously, if you think it is garbage don’t worry about saying so, but I suspect that won’t be the case! At the speed Dave is working (due to re-warehousing etc) it will coincide with my own, smaller, first batch.
Guys, remind me of your addreses so I can get some Abraxas samples to you - I know you gave them to me a while ago but I was inefficient and didn’t write them down:)
Ok. Where is Chris these days? I want input from you guys too. This is a group effort to combine our knowlege. Tony and Philip, yes. Snuffgrinder has a lot of knowlege on history and self made snuff. I think he only uses what he makes himself. Red Star (now MiB) works in the tobacco industry in Germany, he has a lot to offer and in the know in a lot of things. Filek knows a lot of this stuff too, plus he knows the history well. Professor Griffiths if he wants to, although he has his own site he may not want to write anything new. Possibly we could borrow from that with his permission. Troutstroker if he ever comes back. I know he does from time to time, but he doesn’t contribute much anymore. He’s got a lot in his head, and has certainly sampled extensively. Some of the pros, perhaps? Roderick and Jaap? How to proceed? Well, maybe a mass PM from you to those various parties inviting them to write something in the FAQ section? I need a lot of help with the glossary for starters.
Also my address: Alex Durnan 4 Harrington Court Wilmington, DE 19805-1867 USA put on the envelope: Do not send to Jamaica first!
Chris posted here last week, I’m sure he’s just temporarily busy with something. With the FAQ, I suggest you do the invitations, you can say that part of the site is looked after by you, carte blanche etc etc, although if you specifically want me to do it I will, of course. In terms of help with content - just give me a job and I will do it (personally, I would change the how to take snuff thread because I think the suggestion of taking small pinches is wrong, but thats just my take on it) Abraxas is now on sale at Mr Snuff - your samples will come from my brother who is in a different part of the country; do you mind if I get him to send your and Chris’s samples to you? It will be easier and cheaper for him. I’m assuming Mark doesn’t want any.
Sorry I’ve been busy with school and such. Chris Stokes 8511 Fort Clinch Ave. Orlando, FL 32822-7184 Please be sure to tell them not to send it to Nigeria, I have been getting a lot of email from some prince over there! LOL! @Xander: somethign I have been thinking about is simply taking important post and extracting information from tehm and putting it into some type of compendium so that it is all in one place. I have been trying to do that with some of the FAQ but what I would like to do is turn some things into PDF’s to be legit articles. It would also help keep the FAQ clean.
Please do not remove images. Nigel think I’m there. Do you want the positive or negative, or keep what is up there now.
Thanks John. Edit: On reflection the black on white is more striking, so lets go with that
The Black on White is now on Nigel I was experimenting with a flashy one, but it distracts from reading, plus all our sponsors would want one LOL! I’ve linked the banner to Mr. Snuff’s home page, you will notice.
Great job, thanks John.
Chris, that’s a good idea. It will take a long time, but I have been thinking along the same lines actually. Nigel, you can send both snuffs here. If I like it, I will just keep Chris’s. Seriously, I have some things to send him anyway, so its fine. Do you want anything there from this part of the world? Plenty of scotch snuffs are at my fingertips, also some small snus selection, and the usual US tobaccos, and probably thousands of other things that you might not have near you.
A pack of Redman always goes down nicely! Its been sent off to your seperate addresses but in future maybe Ill just send to one of you. Apparently Abraxas is the most expensive snuff ever sold. Now there’s a thing.
You have things to send me? Remember, Abraxus and Anthrax are two different things! Alex, I have a good program called Nitro PDF that is great for turning text files into PDF’s. I will get started after the middle of week, I will be off of school until the 22nd.
Nigel: OK I will grab a Redman next time I am in the tobacco shop. That may well be tomorow. Sounds good Chris. Yes, I have at least one snuff a Taxi Gold put aside for you. Its rather dried out, so its more for collectables. Pieter sent me three that he found some time ago. I think they were old when he found them. I also have another copy of Dune somwhere.
Damn, and there I am sending anthrax samples all over the place…
Xander, Instead of having a bunch of PDF’s posted in the threads, I think I will convert them over to Google docs using the SH gmail account. This way we can jsut have links to the PDF’s in a clean and orderly way. What says you?
Ok, I guess. Whatever works. Can you make one to sample for me to see?
I was just about to suggest that. Really:)
Sure thing. Here is how it will look (ignore the content, it is a PDF from work): Click: This Would be the Title
That looks very professional, I like it.
Nigel, How much of a pain in the ass is it to change the name on the tab from FAQ to something else?
What do you have in mind?
Abraxas just landed in the mailbox, and now in my nose. Nigel, thank you. This is pretty good stuff. I wonder if its slightly alcoholic though. What’s K57? Your code name?
Well, if Xander is okay with it, I think a more fitting name for it would be something along the lines of “The Archive” or “The Library” The term FAQ doesn’t encompass everything that is in there, or will be in there.
@Xander: Crikey! Mine must have ended up in Jamaica this time!
I’m Ok with either of those titles. We can still have a general FAQ within that. Or make it “Resources & FAQs” maybe?
Ok. I had a look but can’t see a way of doing it, if John can then by all means change it - otherwise it means getting Vanilla to do it. That always entails about 20 emails explaining to some spotty kid what I mean and I don’t have much time on my hands at the moment. I will be on sunny (hopefully) kefalonia in a few days but when I get back - if John can’t fix it - I will attend to it. In the meantime decide what title you want. Xander - K57 is my brother Phil, who I taught from scratch exactly how to make the snuff. For various reasons it suited me to do that and his premises are registered as a tobacco factory by UK customs. The first batch was made by me but Phil will be making it from now on; its identical to mine in a way that I couldn’t get by using an outside company, for lots of logistical and cost reasons. This is a serious entry into the snuff market, although on a small scale, and my intention is that Abraxas stays on the market. Time will tell, there’s a whole bunch of things can go wrong with a new venture - not least people just won’t like it. Phil used to race super-karts and 57 was his number.
I’ve had a look Nigel, Sorry I can’t find a way either.
In that case Ill deal after I get back - not going til next Tuesday but I’m in and out until then.
PS, I would be obliged if you could put Abraxas on the snuff list: I’ll leave you to word it. Its no longer a market test and it is not a home brew, so it fits in with your own rules for the list. ta
Yes, it fits in with my rules, and I had every intention of adding it. There are still a lot of snuffs that I have in my own lists that I have not finalized for the “official” list. Its far from complete. My rules are only that, though. Mine. I’m more than happy to discuss a better way of making the rule. In other words, I’m open to suggestion, and I want it to be democratic. The snuff list is still only in a formative state, anyway. I will notify you guys when my knowlege is exhausted. I do ask about K57 for this purpose, and also I note that my Abraxas sample is black labeled and not like the one on Mr. Snuff’s photo. If the previous batch did not have the same wording, then I’m not sure what to do. Where’s Kefalonia? Spain? Have a good time.
A Greek Island off The mainland, I think. Have a good time Nigel.
‘‘I do ask about K57 for this purpose, and also I note that my Abraxas sample is black labeled and not like the one on Mr. Snuff’s photo. If the previous batch did not have the same wording, then I’m not sure what to do.’’ I’m not sure I’m with you? The jar shown on Mr Snuff is not what the product looks like. His IT guy - I suppose for reasons of readability - wiped the true label off on the virtual jar and put a black and white ‘Abraxas’ on there. I didn’t send out the samples - did you get one with a professionally printed label on? The ones on sale have front and back vinyl labels on, although some samples went out before we had those printed and were just in the plain jar with a handwritten sticker. All of the ones on sale have the same label. The wording is: front label ‘Abraxas Premium Batch Snuff’. The rear gives the statutory warning, weight and country of origin plus ‘blended by K57’. Kefalonia is in Greece. I will be away for two weeks and minus any form of IT, including cell:)
Gents A thread has been started about the London riots, offering thoughts and prayers. I have made an entry and left it open. I did consider closing but on this occasion I don’t think I have that right. But if any member turns this into a political rant, after what I have posted, they will be banned and all trace of them deleted from the site. If I don’t see it and you do, please act on my behalf. I’m going to trust in common sense here and pray that doesn’t happen.
Dont’ worry, if any idiots raise their head, it will be quickly severed.
Thanks mate.
Sorry for my absence. I’ve been without power for about 24 hours, due to a bad thunderstorm. Its back on now, but the downed trees all over the city will take longer to clear. No, I was not out rioting! Yes Nigel, my Abraxas label is as you describe. I just wanted to make sure they were all the same so if I put K57 on the offcial list it will be correct. I still haven’t worked out the final wording, but it will be added to the list soon.
Cheers, I don’t want any different treatment than you would give any other brand, ie you won’t be alluding to Wilson’s blender, so no need to put K57 on. I want it on the list purely because its here to stay as a brand.
After today Ill be gone for a couple of weeks and leaving things in your hands, so have fun and see you later:)
A final word, before I go, on changes to the site. I have just spent the day trying to get Vanilla to put some security on the application process because John and I are forever having to screen out porn sites of the more repulsive and ilegal type. Its taken all day, and a dozen emails, for them to say ‘we can’t help, you need a rebuild’ - but in the meantime they did manage to take all the security off for a while and leave the site wide open. I got it before any harm was done (but dump any dildo/but-plug salesman that may have got thru). I will not be making any further enquiries with them, on any subject, even changing the titles of tabs. But…I will look about when I get back and see how doable it is to get some different support. Vanilla come free, but free nothing is nothing in anyone’s book:) See ya.
I’ll keep an eye on the Dashboard and for Vanilla switching the applications to basic. Also if we get any bandits.
What happend to Grond?
It was Nigel changing his username, LOL!
No, it was the name the forces of the Dark Lord gave to thier battering ram as they sieged the gates at Minas Tirith.
You can’t put one over on a Tolkien nerd.
Just had to googled Grond, by that you will learn I’m not into films.
Don’t worry John, I’ve never heard of it either.
Think Nigel was getting bored waiting for his taxi to take him to the airport! Wish those Russians would put up another Iron Curtain, it’s unbelievable what comes out of there, and posted in 'Why Do You Want To Join This Forum. I’m rejecting about 9 out of ten applicants daily.
Might make for some interesting reading!
Just a heads up that my activity is about to drop, classes started last night so I’ll be spending a lot of time in the books.
Hi Chris, but come back from time to time just to rest.
Oh I will John!
Hi Gang, Will you keep a watch on new member named; “whitesnuffers”. I may have let a porn merchant in! His IP is Mexico and gave a good answer to the question on joining. But after accepting him there was another applicant, again in Mexico with a very similar IP. Both hotmail accounts, it’s sure to be the same person, this I declined, and the email address on this one was girlcore-xx@hotmail.com!!! Thanks, John
Ok. Time is at a premium for me these days as well, but I will do what I can.
Hi Alex, I myself have been busy I had problems with one of my computers, I’ve fixed it now (I think). But had a look in from time to time, and that whitesnuffers has not posted to date. I heard on the BBC news that that hurricane is due to hit parts of Delaware, hope you keep safe, and are OK.
Yep. Been busy bracing for it. It is due to hit tomorrow night, and I expect to lose power, so I’ll be here even less even though its the weekend. We had a tornado a few weeks ago (uncommon here) and lost power then for two days. We had an earthquake (unprecedented!) but not much damage, althogh the local Catholic church a few blocks away lost a chunk of its steeple, and has been closed to the public for safety. In my house only a few odd things tumbled over, or cabinet doors popped open. Hurricanes are common by comparison! Anyway, lots of odd things going on, I guess the world is coming to an end or some such nonsense.
But thanks for your well wishes! Nigel when you are back, drop me your address again. I have that Redman chew sitting here for you.
Hi all The name changes - Grond (you are right, the name of the battering ram used against Minas Tirith, I was in the Tolkien Society at 11) plus Zombiebraineater (which I think no one spotted) - were a direct result of pre flight boredom and one too many:) John, I’m going to delete whtesnuffer - I don’t want any chance of a porn peddler.
Address is 8 Holme Road, Hornchurch, Essex, RM113QS, United Kingdom.
Nigel, ok whitesnuffers never posted so I think that warrants a delete anyway.
Just eliminates a horrible, but unlikely, event…
Just declined this one below, but now it’s in Kelowna, British Columbia CA.!! legio (girlcore-xx@hotmail.com) 7:16AM [24.67.72.157]
Ill leave em to you at the moment, a couple more waiting.
They seem OK, one in New South Wales and the other in Texas.
John, at the risk of being very picky, can you make the competition pictures smaller? Say an inch by an inch, whatever that is in pixels?
OK, l’ll have another go in morning. I’m out on my smart phone right now.
The six photo merchandise looks very nice! Also, Nigel thank you for the Abraxas!
My, that took its time. What do you think? I need some Abraxas recviews.
It arrived while you were on holiday. My first impressions are that its wonderful, once my sinus’ heal I’ll give it a proper review in the review section.
Thanks Chris, hope you enjoy it in due course.
Oh, btw, I sunk and closed the smoking ban thread.
Didn’t see it but ok thanks.
Just out of interest, did anyone see the episode of ‘The Sopranos’ where Feech La Manna was released from Prison?
Not me
Ok, just something I was wondering. Not important. Are you going to write a 6 photo review? The 6 Photo promo stuff is quite nice.
FAQMeisters, I’ve shunted the policy thread to your section, I would prefer it lives there but if you have any strong objections just chuck it back to the main page. I just thought it looked a bit grim on the home page.
Very good Nigel.
Just spent 4 days in a monastery in the heart of the Kentish countryside - we’re Catholic and every once in a while we have a few days on retreat; it’s a place of deep silence and tranquility. The only problem is I forgot my snuff. When I couldn’t hold out any longer I resorted to buying some RYO in the village nearby. Why did I ever smoke? I mean, it is pretty awful doing it everyday. Got back yesterday morning and shoved my nose straight into a pot of Quit. Ahh, the joys of addiction…
We’ve just had one of our bi-annual ISTA threads opened. My thoughts are the same as when it was first mooted - impracticable because of the global spread of members and no one ever wanting to be the one to get it going. But…we still have the ISTA tag available to us to add to members profiles. Something howdydave said made me think of this; what about having the ISTA title as a kind of Snuffhouse honour? Meaningless in practical terms, like knighthoods etc, but desirable because it denotes being a prestigeous member. I thought of a criterion of a minimum of 2 years membership and a significant contribution to the site; i.e regular posting, reviews, on topic discussions. I quite like this idea, what do you guys think?
Nigel, I like the idea. Actually, it was something I suggested back when we actually had an ISTA section of the site that only ISTA members could see. I got back no responses. I even suggested a list of nominees. Actually, Peiter Classen did second it, but nothing came of it. Just prior to that I asked Alex for the membership and he granted it to me. I think I’ve earned it by your criterion. Actually I think “be an active member of the Snuffhouse community for not less than two years OR have made a signifcant contribution to the snuff community at large.” should be how it should read. I guess Alex was just to busy with other things to fool with it. I later asked him to make Chrs a member and he did. Since beocming a moderator, I have made Bart a member. He’s a good guy and been around a long while. It doesen’t have to be anything more than ceremonial at this time. If it evolves to something bigger someday, so be it. So I think all moderators should get it since they do work here, I do think howdydave should have it (even though he can be annoying at times) becuase although he is new here, his website was one of the first on the web about snuff and did a lot to introduce people to it and contains some good information. Others I would suggest becuase of significant contribution: Snuffpub and Bigmick for their magazine, Prof Griffiths, PhilipS and probably even the people that make and sell snuff (should they want it).
Call me Mr Glum I still don’t think it will take off, hope I’m wrong, but I will never want to be a member. By the way watch ‘howdydave’, now the chap is educated and has done a lot for snuff, but I don’t want to be near him, in any way. I’ve read some of his pieces on an other forums. That man can be a number one prat.
A few issues here, in no particular order: 1. Xander, thanks for the chew/snus - can anything compete with getting a nice little parcel of tobacco through the post? I would have said sex as a younger man but to be honest I prefer tobacco now. 2. Howdydave. Mmmmm. No one got my reference to the Soprano character ‘Feech La Manna.’ He was an old Mafia guy who everyone was very pleased to see when he got out of jail; they then realised after about 2 days that he was a bit of a dick. I hope I’m wrong but I can actually see him getting banned - there is something a bit like Mateo/Walt about him. Whatever his background and contribution, if he starts to aggressively take over he’s going to go. But I hope I’m wrong, he’s not done anything to warrant it yet I just have a…hunch, lets call it. Please watch him guys. 3. ISTA. I mean it as nothing more or less than an honourary title - just for fun, nothing to manage, work out, have ammendations made to the site for etc etc. With this version of the site there is no way to have seperate areas anyway and at the moment my cash and energy are with Abraxas - site re-builds are a way off. All of the original problems with making it into a ‘real’ association are still there and I have no inclination to get it going; and I suspect neither does anyone else when push comes to shove. As I said on the forum, I would judge any proposal involving Snuffhouse on it’s merits, but with the site issues and the rest it is hard to see how it could ever be anything more than a box clicked on a members profile - which, circular discussion as it is, brings me back to it just being a not too serious merit badge.
Just had the following PM from howdydave regarding the ISTA thread. I think I’m liking him less and less. "Awww… c’mon… Nothing like a little intreague to promote some enthusiasm! howdydave 9:48AM BTW: That’s talking about the ISTA - 5-S link. howdydave 9:57AM As per your challenge: Just “doing something to make it happen.”
This Vanilla site has problems, but we can live with that. I look at it this way. My local beer joint is old and tatty, but the clientele are great. OK once in a while some prat visits and he’s not made welcome so he finds he doesn’t fit so he never comes back. If he’s thick sinned and does keep returning then someone opens the door and a Wayne Rooney lookalike thinks the prat is a football! Back to forum tools: I think the best is vBulletin, but I haven’t a clue how to transfer this database. It would mean starting from scratch. I’m with you Nigel, stick it out and hope Vanilla come better.
John, Yes a prat. We don’t use that word much in this country, but its perfect. Anyway Can I ask why you want nothing to do with ISTA? Especially if its just honorary? You were the first person I would nominate. Nigel, you’re quite welcome. I included the snus since I guess you havn’t tried it in loose form, and I bought a couple rolls when I bought the chew for you. Especially after the nice gift of Abraxas, which I know I still owe you a review. I stop by this place about once a month since its the only place in town that carries snus, and although only General brand, he’ll order me what variety (of General) I like. He has other brands of chew if you are interested, but no snuff. I asked him about it and he said he’d look into it. He know what it was at least, because his mother in India used it. Most shop owners haven’t a clue. I mentioned Dark Horse and Silver Dollar, and even gave him a spare copy of the Snuff Taker’s Ephemeris #1. However, nothing has come of that, so I’m looking for Dark Horse elsewhere. Lil Brown sells it, and I will place an order with them before the end of next month. I will get enough so that the whole mod team can try one of each (my treat), and John I will send you two sets but you must give one to Tony. Also if any of you want something extra from there let me know ahead of time, but that expense will be on you. They do carry the large bottles of Levi Garrett, but I already have two of those in the cellar and a bit of the vintage one still. Re howdydave: I don’t think he’ll cross the line into ban land, but I can envision him gettting told to settle down. At most I’d say he’s annoying, but not problematic. Re ISTA: Why not? Why not just make it an honorary thing and be done with it. It solves the problem of the recurring question and actually makes some people feel better about something, yes like a merit badge. You can try to run around the site and erase all traces of it, to prevent that or actually make it into something. That something can be as basic as an “almost nothing” like an honoray title. Set up some conditions as you suggested, and then let it go. Or have a nomination process from within. In either case you don’t need a separate section of the forum. If that happens someday, fine, but not imperitive.
I would agree that Howdydave is a bit annoying, I tend to ignore his threads since they are mostly pointless. As for the ISTA: I gave up on that idea long ago. My time is spread paper thin these days. I can’t see it ever getting off the ground. Hell, the idea has been chewed over for how many years now? And a sidenote: As mentioned above, my time is spread pretty thin these days. I could go into all that is going on (if you really want to know just ask) but I will spare you the fun. I’m still checking in but I just wanted you all to know that if you ever wonder why you haven’t seen me on here for a day or two, I’m still around just really preoccupied.
Hi Chris, hope whatever it is thats going on gets solved - if you need or want to talk I am sure I can speak for all of us in that we would be there to listen, anytime. Xander, large bottles of Levi? How much would they cost? Sounds like you have a little gem of a shop, the snuff aspect not withstanding. I think we all agree on howdydave. I don’t know much about him apart the the old ‘Sheffield Exchange’ era stuff. We will just watch and see how it goes. With any luck he will stay within the bounds of decent behaviour. With regards the ISTA: I think it may be fun to have it as a ‘badge of honour’, why not? Criteria: 2 years membership of Snuffhouse as a contributing member or, as per Xander’s thoughts, a significant contribution to the world of snuff. Either way, strictly people who contribute to the site. I don’t intend to hand it out to someone like Sharrow1 - who in some way shape or form is part of the WoS set up, because they do not engage. I would expect potential members to be discussed here. Maybe the FAQ section could have a list of members? Xander - if you want to run this and post an introductory thread go ahead.
Re: ISTA: Nigel, I think you technically own the ISTA since you own this site. If I were you I would make that fact clear to prevent any usurpation of your property. As for me: It’s just a mix of things. I’m taking two intense courses (at least the most intense I have taken thus far) and of course I work full time. On top of that I’m trying to get a non-profit off the ground as well as volunteer with the honor society that my wife heads up at her university (Troy University). And last week my grandmother was admitted to the hospital with pneumonia, we didn’t know if she was going to make it. Everything hit at once so I’m just trying to get everything sorted without going insane. I’m hoping that after the 30th things will ease up a bit after I submit a research paper I’m working on. If I didn’t have to work it would be a breeze. Anywho, that’s my story.
Well, we wish you all the best with it - life can be insanely hectic and if you get time to get on the site great, if not see you when things are on an even keel. Hope your grandmother gets well soon. Re ISTA : I have licensed it to Mr Snuff.
Re ISTA: Very good. The only thing I would worry about is Howdy Dave posting it on other message boards.
Well, thats beyond any practical control I could exert - I may be the owner in fact but there is nothing to stop someone using it; its a highly costly business fighting something like that and not something I would get into; the ISTA forms no part of any business plans I have, nor will it. As it stands I have done a small, mutually beneficial deal with Dave.
Well, we can see just how hot of a topic it is, already on the 2nd page. I’ve always thought that the ISTA was a neat idea, it just seems that nobody has time to do the proper work for it.
The thing with the ISTA is that it can only really go in two or three ways - either web based, probably with Snuffhouse as the fulcrum, or as a genuine, physical thing where people meet up, or a hybrid of both. Any of them would require work, leadership and money. The second/third options would be very difficult to get going given our demographics. It will always cause interest but that is based on a turn around of new members - once a new group have seen the old threads the interest rises, bubbles along as with every new thing and then dies down. At the end of the day unless some one person with sufficient commitment to get it all going comes along or steps forward the issuse will be circular and episodic, as i think precedent clearly shows. The best people to run it are all here but all too busy - personally I would think you or Xander ideally although I know you don’t have the capacity. I certainly don’t. Sooooo…I think in the interests of keeping it alive as a concept, and getting some use out of it, the badge of merit idea is sound. Although, I have to say, I don’t really care:) At some point I will re-develop Snuffhouse and have an online shop section for the range of snuffs I intend to bring out if all goes well - thats where my thoughts and plans lie.
Nigel, regarding the shop: you misunderstood. The local shop only has one brand of snus and then all the typical boring tobaccos that most US shops have. Snus is the only thing interesting there, and its only a few varieties of General. Lil Brown is an online shop, and probably the only one still doing business in the US that sells snuff. http://www.lilbrown.com/entity/tabid/95/entityname/category/categoryid/10/sename/dry-snuff/default.aspx They carry Levi Garrett. I want you guys all to have a look and see if you want anything, mainly that means you English guys, and John, Tony is included, so tell him. A round of Dark Horse is on me. Chris, I sympathize. Sometimes its best not to resist the insanity you feel building up. We’ll keep things sorted here until you have time again. As far as the ISTA goes, I will get a little thread set up stating our official policy and member list. They were talking about logos, so do you think we shoud have a statement on that? Perhaps a declaration that you are the owner of the ISTA concept and that any future logo, parephenalia, or ephermera to bear the logo should first have either yours, or the existing membership’s approval?
In order of time last active Xander cstokes4 ermtony bob Bart PieterClaassen Walrus1985 didi878 BigSnoot McSnuff Roderick NelsonPipeClub Troutstroker Java Shooter bertiemonster pauljmuk stitch onefortheroad Matt All above here have been active within one year, most very recently. The rest are as shown: dajawu August 2010 Michael_Pfeiffer June 2010 Poo-Diddy March 2010 Kim February 2010 triolus November 2009 As you can see there are only 24 members. I’d actually like permission to deactivate inactive accounts of regular members, say over 2 years inactive? For ISTA members I’d like just to reduce them to “Member” status if they haven’t been on the site in two years.
Oh, Chris, the ISTA thread dropped to the second page becuase it was sunk. I guess that gives us more time to figure out what our response is. I think we’ve got a solution that works.
I actually un-sunk it.
Is that Orwell speak for “float” Very un-good.
Well, I thought it was a doubleplus-useless thread containing only duckspeak.
Xander, got you re the shop. I would like a large jar of Levi at some point. ISTA - in your hands completely (I seem to remember I was a member as it goes:)). The logo and name are licensed to Mr Snuff - just put that on anything you post and state ownership is mine - although I won’t be getting into any arguments with anyone that chooses to use the name elsewhere a) because I don’t have time, b) because it’s a hell of a process to mount international challenges on ownership infraction and not something I would even remotely get into, party line: I own Snuffhouse, the ISTA and logos, Mr Snuff has the right to use the logo/name on any products. Could you in the near future put Abraxas on the snuff list please. Snuffhouse will eventually be the home to Snuffhouse Snuffs, of which Abraxas will be part (although probably that will stay on Mr Snuff). My plans are to have a seperate online shop area. The forum part is absolutely sacrosanct and will not be messed about with in any shape or form, so no one needs to worry that it will be commercialised or ruined. I think you know me well enough to keep my word on things.
Please see my comments on the ISTA thread.
Ok. So can I downgrade/deactivate old accounts as I suggested? For the snuff list, I want to list the correct manufacturer. Would you like me to use your proper name? Just your last name? Its especially important if future products you make are not Abraxas. I assume you’ll give them their own names.
Sorry, can you just clarify ‘de-activate inactive accounts of regular members’? People who were regular and then stopped posting? As far as I am concerned any account over a year old and not used can be deleted - just beware that it can leave holes in the threads, so just take the option where all of their posts are not removed. For the snuff - just use my name: NH McCarren. Rearding my comments about the ISTA - the howdydave things was just ‘develop an idea if you like and Ill look at it’ - it’s not incompatible with what we are doing with it at the moment. Of course, he won’t come up with anything but I feel I should let people have a go if they so wish, at developing options. He was a bit mischevious claiming I had let him have the ISTA logo, which I hadn’t. More reasons to watch him and watch what you say to him.
I think I will be banning howdydave in the very near future. This is what I originally said to him in a pm re the ISTA: “I will leave you to it then. Its not, in all seriousness, something I have strong feelings about either way and not something I have the time or inclination to get involved with. The idea is sound enough, it just needs someone to take ownership and be the one to make it happen which has been the historical stumbling block - lots of interest but no real proposals or plans. As said, though, I would look at any suggestion that involved the site.” My meaning was ‘I will leave it to you if you want to develop the idea’. He is now claiming that I gave him a written transfer of ownership! I have warned him on the thread itself and closed it, I have also sent him a PM advising him not to try and ‘play’ me; which I think is his general way of operating. He can now shut up or go; the next time on any thread he makes this fatuous claim he is getting banned, whatever his history.
Yes, I can see that he misunderstood your offer. Somewhat presumptive of him. On the old accounts, I can simply deactivate them, it won’t effect any posts they have made and therefore will not leave holes in threads.
Go right ahead.
Please do not delete.
Hi Team, I’m back. Been out and about making the most of this lovely late summer that we’r having. Now got a lot of reading the threads and catching up to do. Alex, re Lilbrown.com, and you offer. I mentioned this to Tony and both he and myself can’t think of anything wanted at the moment, but thanks for your kind thoughts.
Hiya John, nice to see you back mate:)
Xander/Chris - I’ve added Abraxas to the snuff list. I’ve put a couple of lines extra than your usual entries. I have decided to, and am committed to, launching a Snuffhouse brand of which Abraxas will be the flag ship. The shop will open sometime around the new year. I hope. It could all go wrong but nothing ventured nothing gained.
The tumbleweed rolls lazily across the deserted street, a single church bell tolling. ‘Is anyone here?’ the man asks…fear making his voice waver. A low moaning - seemingly human but yet with an underlying note of dread - is the only response. Two figures exit the broken down saloon and lurch towards the man. They have clearly been dead for some time but are animated by some devilish force. A third man, wearing a flat cap and clutching a sharpened black pudding joins them. A fourth figure, little more than a ghost, hovers above the scene, saying nothing whatsoever. Perhaps he is just a figment of the mans fevered senses. As they get nearer to the man he detects the hideous taint of undead flesh mixed with some indefineable scent - bergamot perhaps? The man quickly mounts the faithful, reliant, Robin and makes for the city limits.
LMAO! Yes, I’m here Nigel, OK I’ve not been posting much of late but still busy kicking Russians, and other porn traffic from joining us on here.
Me too, filthy fuckers - I would like to napalm them.
They’r very persistent. Wouldn’t like to meet up with these things in real time.
This one makes a change:- chaissami (bahgatcourcan@gmail.com) 1:14PM [46.251.227.60] “Hey, Guys. Found this info about making money from home here , but still can’t understand if it is possible to earn. Some authors say that it is real; some say that make money in the internet is absolutely impossible. If possible, how much can a newbie learn? Do you have an experience?” IP address Iran, I showed him the door!
Thanks. Scam garbage.
I’m here now. Past week or so has been hectic here. Things should be slowing now, and I have more time for my duties here.
Don’t worry, I’m only taking the piss with my little zombie story:)
Sharpened black pudding is a deadly weapon. How is that still legal there?
Just a loophole - they outlawed sharpened fruit but forgot to deal with blood puddings. The casulaties are horrendous.
for unread threads the site is now showing “3 new plural” instead of “3 new” It does not do this for “1 new” so at least it knows one is not plural. However, why it deems fit to tell me that there are plurals I don’t know.
Alex, I noticed this this morning. I thought it strange, but something overlooked and just noticed. Very strange!
Seems that its gone. It was very strange. This has to be the most glitch-ridden discussion board I have ever visited.
Hi Chris.
Hi Chris. Yes, its a piece of crap. All going well I will re develop next year. My plans are to get the site fit for purpose and before I commission the work I will get your opinions etc. Im under the knife on Monday so won’t be around much for a few days.
Wishing you all the best Nigel.
Getting your back fixed, Nigel? Was that your old war wound, right? Orcs and Trolls are everywhere. Wish you well too.
If you’ll all indulge a brief policitcal comment from me here in this private conversation, I just want to say there has never been a time in my life when I was proud to be American as I am now. I love these people. I think this is finally the game changer. Occupy Delaware General Assembly adopting the Occupy New York City declaration. Raised hands signifies agreement, waving raised hands is strong agreement. Skip ahead to 16:10 unless you want to watch a lot of boring stuff. After 16:10 I’m in tears. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnAoKzHTMj0&feature=channel\\_video\\_title
My knee this time and yes, an old war wound. Nothing too drastic, Ill just be out of operation for a few days. I’m sure none of you US brother mods will be falling out about the video, so I have no problem with you posting it.
I killed a few threads my Oscar about making tobacco illegal and legalizing cannabis and such.
Closed yet another by OW with an explanation. If he makes another I will consider a time-out.
He’s got serious paranoia issues about tobacco being made illegal. This has been a recurring theme from him.
Just closed another, and gave him a warning as he’s getting snarky.
Alex, I’m out on my smart phone and can’t find the ban user button. Feel free to use it, if you think he’s gone to far. It will be OK with Nigel, he has him on his watch list.
I can and will if needed. So far the warning has been enough.
Lets hope so.
I’m ok with banning him. Nigel wanted to ban him a while ago. He does this shit every now and again. It will happen again.
Ok with me, Mark whats your take on this?
Just thought I’d look in. I am meant to lie with the leg elevated for two days - which is harder than it seems, I’m also a bit high with all the morphine they stuffred in me so I’m not going to read through the OW stuff; if you think he needs to go because the harmony of the site will be effected by his continued presence then by all means press the button. and big thanks for being active on this. C ya in abit, wow better not post on the forum…
Welcome back Nigel, but rest. Wabbit seems to have quietn’d down for the time. I say next time he revolts we give him no warning, we hit the ban button. He’s prick @ best.
Hiya John - I ended up reading his posts, and he’s gone. After the warning, and the way he re-acted, plus the content of the posts, I don’t want him here. Never did but let him have his chance. Anyone thats posting lists with cough syrup on there doesn’t belong here. Thanks guys.
Goodbye wabbit, I won’t miss you…
Remember to check out anyone wishing to join with a lP with a Switserland address!
I was told not to make any decisions for 48 hours after my op, so I hope this was a good one. To be honest I was a trifle high last night and probably shouldn’t have got involved. If any mod feels strongly that this should be a ‘time out’ instead of a ban I’m happy to discuss - although I can’t find any reason to keep him around personally and think a problem deferred is still a problem:)
Chris, I re jigged the policy and included your points, to keep it tidy after my silly blah blah post.
Whoever said do not make decisions after your op gave good advice, you disregarded it, naughty. BUT I still think you did the right thing, he’s had fair warnings.
Very good, Nigel. Hope you are on the mend, take care.
Well, I beleive everyone should get a second chance, but if the majority is against me on this one I will concede to the wishes of the majority. However, if he should reqest re-admission as a member via the “apply for membership” route or something similar I think it should be considered. Especially if he offers a signal that he understands his misbehavior and an apology. Bear in mind he did settle down after I gave him a warning about banning and had my finger poised over the ban button.
I have no objection if you want to email him and just tell him he’s getting a timeout. Ill leave it with you, Im not as recovered as I thought to be honest; the after effects of the drugs have knocked me out more than I thought and Im still using double morphine so I’m belatedly taking medical advice and sitting still for a while; just been told I have to be imobile with my leg raised, not at my desk, for a while, so Im butting back out for a bit. Im just a bad patient but i just nearly fell over, see ya.
Ok, I’ll do that. Why? I don’t even like him, but I like fairness. I would prefer not to use my personal email account in case he turns into a real dick. Chris, do we still have that gmail account? If so can you refresh me on what it was and how to access it?
Yes we do. Go to www.gmail.com User is: Thesnuffhouse Pass: snuffhouse2007 Voila!
Thanks!
Here is a copy of what I wrote to him: Dear OscarWabbitt, In regards to your status as having been reduced to an unauthenticed user, this was a decision of the Admin based on your behavior in various posts and threads. I spoke on your behalf and indicated that after warning you seemd to obey the rules. I am authorized to inform you that this can be a temporary suspension if you understand the forum rules that you have violated and will obey them in the future. Any further violation of the rules will result in permanent banning. To be clear, the rules prohibit discussions of illegal drugs or in anyway associate snuff with somethning illicit. Also we do not discuss politcs or create discussions that are likely to turn into political fights. Creating a discussion based on tobacco prohibtion paranoia is inherently political. Thirdly, trolling or deliberate attempts to antagonize other members or the moderators will not be tolerated. For example, being snarky or flagrantly challenging the rules is unacceptable. In other words, don’t be a troublemaker. This shall be your only offical warning. You may respond to this email address that you understand the rules or ask for clarification. If you accept the rules as stated, and promise to in future obey them, then I am authorized to reinstate you as a Member. Please respond your intentions. No further offers will be given. Xander Moderator, Snuffhouse.org
Alex, your a word smith.
Thanks mate.
He replies: Hi Xander I didn’t know I had broken any rules with my first 2 threads that were locked. I thought my treatment was harsh and unfair. Because I was drunk I got angry and started more threads. This doesn’t justify my response but explains my state of mind. I really don’t know whether I want to be reinstated. Cstokes04 has been gunning for me for a long time. If I make a mistake again, I’ll have to suffer the embarrassment of being banned. I don’t want that. Why couldn’t cstokes04 just delete the 2 threads and send me a gentle reminder of the rules by private message? Why was I made to suffer public humiliation? I never set out to cause bad juju, it was the way cstokes badly mannered treatment of me which got my back up. I would like to be reinstated but only if you delete the locked threads and in future if I act out if the tos, the action will be to delete the thread/post and contact me by private message. I’m a reasonable guy, you know. Let me know your thoughts. I have a lot of respect for you and hope your usual sense of pragmatism prevails. Regards Oscar
opinions?
I re-instated his account.
We will have to see how he behaves. Sounds like he needs to keep his booze consumption under control as it is usually when he is on the sauce that issues break out. He can’t blame me for his issues forever, but I guess he can try.
I deleted a thread by Livemydreams. He posted in the B/S/T thread as well as making a separate thread so I deleted it. Seems like he has popped back up, might need to keep an eye on him.
Hi Guys I took doctor’s advice - and my wife’s demands - and slept for several days. I shouldn’t have even been upright so sorry for butting in on something you were dealing with whilst high on morphine:) Back to normal now, mentally at least. I have three more ops coming up and will just take a week off from the site in future. A good letter from you Xander, although I am not that keen on him giving conditions - “I would like to be reinstated but only if you delete the locked threads” !! Your actions were entirely correct in closing the posts - and your decision to re-instate, of course, stands. There is always a case for compassion and if the guy has a problem with alcohol I feel for him, but let’s regard him as on his final warning. It has to be said that if he is a full blown alcoholic it is only a matter of time before he posts when drunk and starts trolling. Thanks again for supporting the site.
I didn’t delete the threads and he hasn’t been back yet.
Nigel, glad to see you up and about. No, I didn’t like Oscar trying to reason or compromise, and I really didn’t want to negotiate terms. I made a fair offer, and I’m pretending he accepted it.
Chris, don’t do either - he is not telling us what to do after being warned for being a troll. Xander - excellent! That appeals to me in an abstract way!
How do you guys feel about limiting the Buy/Sell/Trade to one post per 60 days? And what is everyone’s opinion on people looking for cigarettes?
Chris, I’m not to keen on cigs or pipe tobacco on this forum. But I suppose there has to be a crossover. As for the Sell/Trade thing, then it’s OK with me, if it can be policed.
Nigel, you made “SnuffStore Disount” an anounsment. I closed it, thinking that you intended. If not you can open it again.
I have no objection to any items on our trading thread, as long as they are legal and decent. It is, afterall, a service for the members. I see it as a kind of noticeboard that you would get in the clubhouse at a golf course or rotary. Re the 60 day thing; is there a need? My only real concern with the thread is that people don’t try to run a business from it or post links to other commercial sites without prior agreement. I am in favour of fairly loose policing of the thread, but happy to discuss further. John, no problem re the snuffstore thing, thanks.
I like the BST thread to stay clean with actual trades, not conversation. Otherwise the thread would get derailed into pages of nonsense. The 60 day period is meant to keep the post accurate so that things don’t linger on there forever. I’ll take out the 1 post per 60 days but I would like to keep it to post over 60 days are gone.
That makes sense, I think a limit of one post every two months is too much, but getting rid of posts over 2 months old is a different thing entirely and makes for a clean thread. I agree with wiping conversation off there - it is not a chat facility and makes it harder to scan quickly for things of interest.
I had to edit a post by Mark W that was linking to some evolution denying evangelical religion propaganda.
Ugh! He wants to argue about it. He PM’d me: “I think we should ban talk of the evolution theory too. It is most definately a cult like movement. I can’t keep my mouth shut when people talk of an absurd theory as fact. I won’t try to save souls here since it is the rules, but I don’t want to hear about false religions, especially if I can’t counter them. I see it as my duty to disturb forces of evil. Thanks.” I replied: “Sorry, discussion of science is perfectly valid. Discussion of religion is not. Please take it up with the Admin if you disagree.” Lets keep an eye on him.
Which thread is that on? Good job Xander. Some Christians, and of course others, just don’t, can’t, won’t get the concept of not ranting whenever they come across something they disagree with and I speak as a regular church goer. He sounds like a typical hard-right bigot so, yes, lets keep an eye on him. He’s had his warning, if he posts similar comments or attacks any member on fundamentalist grounds just fire his ass. He probably will at some point.
It was on the “Odor, Snuffs and memory” thread. I didn’t change anything from his post except for deleting two links. They should still be visible in the admin section that shows deleted posts. Yeah, I went to Catholic school my whole childhood. Their policy was always to teach the best science and then teach religion seperatly. The religion teachers always defended science and reminded us not to use the bible as a scientific or historic document. I can’t quite grasp how some folks can’t seperate the two in their minds. Anyway, semper vigilans!
Ive put the trading disclaimer on the FAQ, btw and slimmed the one on the thread down a bit.
Ive just closed off a slightly odd thread from Roderick about how we moderate. I don’t know if there was subtle dig in it or not, but how we moderate will never be up for discussion, whoever starts the thread.
It did seem a bit passive-aggressive. But then there was the gentlemen remark. Hell if I can figure it out?!?!?
He’s not above making comments like that dressed up as a joke, he’s done it before. I can’t figure it out because he’s never had anything but support from me - and make no mistake, the comment was addressed to me. Anything like that - where the nature of the remark is ambivalent, and concerns how we do our business, is to be closed. Genuine questions, fine, but snide remarks no. The moderation here is superb and you guys do a fantastic job, period.
I am tempted to delete threads that we usually close, what do you all think? My feeling is that if we close a thread we do it because we don’t want the discussion to carry on or the subject is objectionable etc. So why close and have the subject in plain sight? I suppose closing but keeping the thread on the list let’s people see what we do and do not tolerate - an example, as it were. Should we carry on as before, delete, or delete after 24 hours when everyone has seen it? Btw, I deleted the last two closed threads.
I’m for closing the threads, but let them stay so members can learn why they where closed, they soon sink anyway. By the way Nigel, Someone wanted to join because they was into just collecting snuffboxes, I left that for you, as I’m maybe biased. I hate people taking history of the market and not putting them to proper use. And I’m tired of kicking / declining, some one who persists on wanting to join to buy a snuffbox for their son-in-law, who hasent read your lurkers post. LOL!
I think I may have a more gentile notion of membership. I must admit that I would admit a snuff box collector. I don’t remember seeing anyone, was there any text on on there? I admit all applicants if they say they are interested in both things or just the one and who can formulate a sentence. Not ‘Snuff’ or 'looking for cheap deals on," or '.come to Kazhakstanandbebumraped" But we do these things according to conscience. It matters not.
Could be reading too much into Roderick’s statement. I think he meant that we know from experience what direction a conversation will take. After seeing the same conversations over and over, its not hard to see the warning signs of one going bad. I think we’ve headed off a lot of troublesome ones just by intervening early. Also I think he may have meant he misses the trolls for the spice and livelyness they give to the place. I kind of miss them too, in a sick sort of way. At least I miss the excitement. As far as closing/deleting, I think its adequate to close and leave visible so that members can see why something was closed. If I find old closed ones from years ago in my wanderings I usually delete them. However, if something was offensive or inflamatory, I delete before it gets seen by too many.
A complex issue. I have a relationship of some sort with all of the industry guys who advertise here, and in some way shape or form I always support them; I certainly give them my time. I find it unprofessional of him to comment in any way about how the site is run because all he has had from me is help. It wasn’t the worst post in the world, but it was out of place because he is not an ordinary member as I am not an ordinary Toque user. And he has done it before. For you to fully understand the reasons I found it so annoying I would have to go into our business dealings, which, obviously, I can’t. Its not of mega importance, but I was and am slightly pissed off. With regards the troublemakers - I don’t miss them at all. When Alex owned the site it took forever to get rid of someone and some of those posts were evil - like my death threat. But - a serious question - have I gone too far in sanitizing the site? Would you make any changes? I would be grateful if you could give me your thoughts on this.
As you can see I’ve enabled rich text and emoticons. Im going to be honest here and admit I had no idea the site had the capacity. Of all the times I’ve wanted to use simple italics and couldn’t!!
What’s going on with the color scheme?
Ive just been playing around with the themes bit on the ‘dashboard’ - all very easy to change back if folks don’t like it.
Nigel,
How about changing over the emblem to one like what is attached?
Nigel, Roderick left a comment for you which is visible in the Activity tab. Its regarding the above discussed issue. I presume he meant for it to be private. It seems many of our members still do not understand the way the private messaging system works here. One read through the Activty page will show this.
PS this new format seems to be making my typing very sluggish.
Thanks Xander, Ive left a proper message for Roderick.
John, can you cast an eye over the theme things, waddyathink??
Whoever post for The Backy Shop on here has made an entry on the Buy/Sell/Trade thread. Since they are a vendor, shouldn’t they not be posting on there?
Well, this time I don’t see why not. He listens to us when we say we don’t like the sneeze boxes and is getting rid by offering members of this forum a bargain.
Nigel, I knew about the text formatting and the themes, I think the cloudy one you had up yesterday is best.,
John, could you kindly look through the thread ‘do you like this’ shihitohno makes some kind of suggestion, I have no idea what it means.
Alex, I got a email notification of your test, you must have problems like me. Devil of a job getting here, Page not found Also Now I can’t type into the write Comment box on my mobile.
Can you see the original format on the themes page on dashboard John? If you can (and I have to admit I can’t) it might solve that.
Ive closed the baccyshop thread, which I have only just read. One thing letting them have a post on the trades thread but its not fair to the paying advertisers to have a long promotional thread running. I have pm’d them with an explanation for closing but kept the trade post open.
I delted my “test” becuase it didn’t seem to prove anything. Something was wrong with this thread yesterday. It seems to be ok now.
Nigel, That’s a no,no. You could try going back to that cloudy theme you had on, then turning off the smart text. then pray the original theme comes back!
To Alex yes yesterday I had the same problem, had to use an old link to get in here.
I don’t think I will touch it again - I was under the impression when I first experimented that it would just be a queation of clicking back. Well, it wasn’t and clearly I should have left alone.
Ive just closed another black swanne shop thread, deleted this time. I just can’t let them use the site to promote their business when I have long term advertisers paying to do that. I need the advertisers so please close off any new ones. I will email them direct as they seem to have not seen or ignored the pm I sent.
I know how you feel, but I would have thought that you could get back to as it was. I never tried as I now know how Vanilla works!
Comments about Black Swan noted.
Well, feel free to have a go - Im just too concerned about my lack of IT brains, probably should have thought about that but hey ho one of lifes little blunders. If there are serious issues arising I will have to brave the ‘support’ people.
FYI: I’m getting a malware warning on the Israeli Snuff thread.
I opened it this morning and found nothing, now I get this:-
snuffindia.com is the old site of 6 Photo Snuff! and just been there and get the same warning. The side bar link to 6 Photo is clean.
I have asked the tec support people to have a look. any other problems noted?
**This is the reply from the tec support for this site:
Mark O’Sullivan, Nov-21 11:17 (EST):**
Hi Nigel -
It looks like tom502’s profile photo was being hosted on snuffindia.com, which Google thinks is hosting malware. I removed tom502’s photo and so you should be all set now.
His photo being shown from there was likely a relic from your import to Vanilla; he shouldn’t be able to link it directly like that again
Let me know if you notice anything else.
Nigel, that’s very plausible. I run through the thread with my armor on and there was no posting by Vikas. It’s very pleasing to learn the tech support dealt with this problem so quickly.
Nigel, I temperaly turned off the smart text and now find I can type in again on my hTC phone that I’m using now. You will find my IP address is the same, that’s because I’m getting through via my wireless router.
Mark, can you still post on here via your smart phone?
If not email me at snuff_head@ yahoo.co.uk
Have you ever seen one of those Simpson’s episodes where you see Homer tallking from the dog’s perspective? That’s how I hear computer talk.
One of my favorite Homer quotes is “Ooooh! They have the Internet on computers now!”
Anyway can someone try to fix the goof I just made. I was editing the Samuel Gawith section of the Snuff List in the FAQ and in this new comment format, it all went to hell. For some reason this operates agonizingly slow for me, or not at all.
Lol!! He is me.
Is the slow operation on every aspect of th site, ie typing, posting etc?
Alex I’ve found your list before you did the editing, I should be able to bring it back and you will have to start all over again. You want me to give it a go???
Im finding the operation just as quick if not a touch more - could it be your PC?
I am having PC issues due to memory. The site must be asking for more memory.
John, you can do that, but it seems I can’t make edits at all in this new format.
Alex done that, from what I remember it’s gone back OK.
Regarding the site, it is a little slower in refreshing pages, and with this smart text with all the bells & whistles on it will get slower as members add smiley’s and things.
Im up for any suggestions, it works fine for me but if you want to experiment John, please go ahead. Happy to vote on the matter between ourselves??
I have posted/announced that there may be a few wird moments as we work out the best OS. John, try
whatever you like…
Nigel, I feel reluctant to do any change, we may loose this theme just like the original got lost :-{
Ok, me too. Any problems then will just have to be catalogued and as and when I get the site upgraded we can get them addressed.
Another thing that needs addressing is the comment box is on every page of a thread. It should only be on the last page. The times I have been on say page #3 and answered something then to find it was already answered on say page #4.
The only way around that is to make sure you are on the final page by looking at the greyed out numbers bottom right.
I have made the ‘chat’ thread a stickie, lets see how it goes.
Yep, know that but we all forget sometimes. It still is a fault.
Re the Chat, OK I’ll have ago at editing the original post and insert the link there.
btw, I have had a chat with black swanne shop guy. He is staying an ordinary member and I have said if threads come up about his business he is welcome to put his email address or a link on the thread. The link on the trades thread can stay.
It’s Kris Parry, He’s a good guy, who does listen to his customers.
Yes, he seems like it. Seems like he’s been hit with some serious bad fortune. Anyway, when he is on his feet I will be giving him a month free to see if it helps - at the moment it would just complicate things for him.
Think I’ve found the way to get in here, and input text on my hTC smart phone. Sent on my hTC
That sound’s lovely!! …what does it mean?
I got a notifcaton that Snuffhead made the last comment here. Clicked on it and got “Page not found” again. I clicked a previous notification and here I am. I don’t see a new comment though. This post shall be a test of sorts.
Yep I got that with your test last week & had to use an old link. Most odd.
A very learned IT chap I know descibed how problems accrue: a couple of badly constructed areas on any programme have dommino effects with all the variables at work. Its all fairly low key on this site, touchwood, but I think poor workmanship is the root cause. Strangely enough, the previous owner never could answer many of the questions I asked before I bought the site. I thought nothing of it at the time. The first Snuffhouse ran like clockwork. At least we can keep going and by the way, should we ever have a drastic crash I would never allow the site to die.
Ah, re this thing of having an online chat thread. At the moment it looks to be twleve hours between posts!, but should it ever leave hyperspace and take off, I’m kind of thinking about not policing it unless there is a complaint that a mod has to look at.
Im thinking, let them say whay they want and as long as it doesn’t spill over to the forum in any way, just leave them to it? If you stronly object I will not do it, but I think just seeing how it goes for a month. Might be healthy…
Nigel we can live with the problems. The chat has moved to here http://wbe002.mibbit.com/?settings=22eaa6cbff23344c9c6f88dfdaa541de&server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23snuffguild
If you wont, I can delete the thread and post a sticky with the link. Must Dash, Formula ! Practice!
So its not actually hosted by our site? Post a stickie by all means.
No Prismaster opened up another chat on here, then they emigrated to that chat room. I’ll make that thread stick, close it delete postings. Now it is out of ore hands, LOL!
Edit: I’ve left the last few postings, I’ll delete them in a day or so’s time.
I have had a complaint about Vathek, and a suggestion that he is a shill, from David at Mr Snuff. He doesn’t seem a particularly pleasant individual but I don’t see any overt signs of him being a shill/troll. However, if you spot anything untoward can you log it on here please.
All I can see is what he wrote in the whats in your nose thread on 24th Inst.
"Something I find puzzling about this thread. People either post in real-time, like Mr Nose, which is of course jolly interesting, or they pop up with a snuff every day or so, I suspect that most people - on this board - take at least half a dozen different snuffs a day. Other less dedicated snuffers take maybe Hedges year in year out.
The thing that I find puzzling, and I ask out of curiosity only, is why anyone would find it interesting or useful either to post or read a post that says (to take a couple of examples):
SP100 or
Toque Champagne
It’s like my informing you that this morning I had a buttered muffin and that is of course jolly interesting I am sure"
Then a few posts later said “Kendal Mint Cake” It’s nothig much, but could have started somthing going off!
Would anyone be opposed to me making an announcement RE: condolences for Pieter?
Thanks for being so supportive; at the moment I am just overwhelmed with pain and bad health. I’m going to take a a few months. Snuffhouse is my responsibility and I don’t expect anyone to put time in where I can’t so if it gets to the point where you can’t or don’t want to moderate please email me and I will sort something out; this is my problem not yours and I take nothing for granted. I can be contacted at nigel.mccarren@yahoo.co.uk my mobile is pretty much switched off (my cell I mean)
Good health Nigel. We will see you back here soon. Don’t worry about the responsibility. We love this place as much as you; we will make sure it is cared for in your absence.
Also, something good: the mode thread is now showing up in my bookmarks! So whoever changed whatever to make that happen, good job!
I’ve had chats will John and Tony will probably join us for a bit (thanks mate, if you have when you see this)
I am deeply sorry for all this nonesense from me; pain and meds just got the better of me - a real case of panic that’s probably hard to imagine unless you have had one yourself. I think I just got exhausted by it all. I’m doing nothing for a couple of weeks (which is what I was ordered to do, but I’m a bad patient) Thanks for looking after everything, I really appreciate it. Expect some Abraxas in the near future, by far the best batch yet and being packed as we speak:) (not by me tho:))
Alex It wasn’t me that altered anything, it’s the SnuffHouse ghost roaming around again. Mine only shows up, (the mod thing) now and again. Yes Nigel and I have had words as Tony has agreed to be a mod. Welcome Tony. He may have a problem getting to this thread so I’ll email him a link.
Nigel, just relax, I’m sure things will work out, and don’t worry, This team from both sides of the Atlantic will keep it going, and just how you want it for your return in the very near future.
Hi all. I’m in
I’d better take some time to read through some of the pages in this thread to get a feel for how you’re all doing things.
Hola Tony! Welcome aboard!
Hi Tony!
I see we have a “who’s online” thing now. I see Mark. He can’t get away with lurking anymore.
Did the ghost do this too?
Welcome Tony and thanks.
And something I should have said publicly to John, as I did in private: I am really sorry mate, and thanks for everything.
I’m kind of around but not really:)
HI Nigel. Keep resting! Saw that Vikas got some of your Abraxas. Pretty cool! Totally different for him I expect.
Tech question, possibly for John: Can the paragraphs in posts be returned to single spaced? I hate the huge gaps it makes at present.
Time has been reset to? British time, I guess?
To Alex, Re paragraphs think it is a Vanilla thing the Who’s online came up itself too.
The time is way out it’s 14:44 here in the UK and it is showing 19:44!
Hi guys, I’m looking in once a day or so and starting to feel human again - but I’m still taking another week off from the world. One thing I couldn’t evade though was the need to pack and mail the latest batch of abxs off. I know that somewhere, if I really looked, I would find your postal addresses, but to save me the hassle please remind me via a pm so I can send you all a jar (John, I have sent yours and Tony’s). I would value your opinions anyway so you would be doing me a service and one more package to the US won’t kill me:) This batch is slightly lighter and less ‘blamanche’ like, with a more noticeable nicotine content - mostly due to natural variations in the foliage I use.
Most kind! Thanks very much Nigel!
Now I just hope I recover sufficiently from this dental abscess to actually enjoy some snuff soon…
Thank you kindly, Nigel. Keep takng it easy. Alex Durnan 4 Harrington Court Wilmington, DE 19805-1867 USA I hope your abcess heals fast, Tony. Vicious things, they are.
Alex, could you send Chris’s on if I post them together? Would be a help.
Tony, dental problems are the worst thing going, take lots of strong drink and snuff - I know how you feel.
Right, see ya in a while. Thanks again for keeping the shop.
Yes, no problem.
Thanks for the thoughts guys. Marginally better than I was on Sunday, but still far from great so I’ll be missing the pub this evening
Had about 25 applicants to join us today, only accepted one. This is what one clown put on his reason to join:-
“i have been a loyal customer for 35yrs &i would like coupons &any promotional things you might have THANK YOU”
Welcome Back Nigel, take it easy for some time.
Thanks mate, I intend to - looking forward to a quiet Christmas, no guests this year, and just getting back into feeling a bit more human. You learn things when you have enforced time out and I usually try to take something from every experience life gives me - at the end of the day I did retire due to an injury and it is dawning on me - belatedly - that I can’t burn the candle at both ends as I’ve done for years. Enough about all that as I must be getting very boring:)
Anyhow, onwards and upwards, I hope to bring out 2 more snuffs in 2012 so I’m looking forward to that. I hope you gents will be my tasting panel. Putting Abraxas on the market just entailed scaling up something I had been making for years - not entirely as easy as it sounds but I did have the recipe to hand - the next two will be completely new. I intend to bring out a more affordable, but still luxury snuff - which has the working title of ‘Abraxas club mix’ and an SP variant - SHSP (Snuffhouse SP). If all goes well, next Christmas will see ‘Abraxas Fleur De Snuff’ - an expensive (!) version of Abraxas.
I closed the “been out of snuff for awhile” thread, as members were beginning to get abusive towards each other.
Well done thanks
Hi Nigel,
As you will know on most forums it is announced who the Administrators and Moderators are. There is nothing on this site and Tony mentioned, this when I met him last night.
I think we should have an announcement, something like the following:-
“The Admin and moderators on this site are”
Snuffster, Owner and Admin
SnuffHead, assistant Admin
cstokes4, North America Moderator
ermtony, UK. Moderator
miamimark, North America Moderator
Xander, North America Moderator
Any problems, or complaints do not hesitate to contact any of the above. Then it will be disused by the team and action taken if this is necessary.
Change the wording, and put it in your legal writing, by whole means. I also welcome mods comments also.
Hope things are going OK with your health Nigel,
Regards, John
Hi John and Tony
I don’t really use any other forums nowadays so I’m not too aware of the general practice, but if you think it’s required by all means post it. The wording is fine, I don’t think we need worry about legal jargon because it’s not a disclaimer or policy statement, as with the trades thread etc etc, just something that identifies the personnel in the event of problems. Is the common practice to use screen names? Posted on the main page or FAQ?
However you choose to word it is fine by me and thanks for bringing it up. Any other opinions Xander, Chris, Mark?
My health is improving slowly - an operation and series of infections really threw me but I am feeling better in general, thanks for asking. Tony, hope you are feeling better.
Cheers guys
Nigel
OK Nigel, so far we have no input from the team, I’ll post it.
Fine with me
Getting there, thanks Nigel. One more dental appointment and I’ll have a new smile…
Well I hope it doesn’t get in the way of you enjoying Christmas (if that is not a contradiction in terms).
Thanks for posting the mods list John, I just took out a typo and made a very slight change as a result.
If anyone gets one of the Abraxas samples can you let me know - they were all posted over a week ago. The guys in the States would still be waiting but UK samples should be there by now.
Ive just deleted a discussion starting about Kim Jong dying, political from the first comment.
Yep, I read the first post, and watched it for some time. No one came up to comment for ages. guess you got in when I switched off. I’ve read what you deleted, yes it needed to go. It just seemed to be the core of The sudden occurrence of a violent discharge of steam.
It could only go downhill. Anyway, it was political pure and simple. Alex didn’t make many rules when he owned the site but the no politics regulation was very sensible. I am trying to use a lighter touch these days but I didn’t hesitate with this.
Any Abraxas arrived? I’ve heard nothing from anyone and I’m starting to wonder a bit. Debs rushed into a very busy post office one lunchtime to post them when she was working in a different part of London for the day. I’m hoping it wasn’t all staffed by students who just binned or stole everything.
Regret to say it looks as if it’s lost Nigel. The post seems to be running normal I received some electrical leads this morning that got posted in London Saturday.
Well, it was all ordinary second class post from Stratford, East London, as our postage bill was atronomical otherwise, what with sending bulk supplies to Dave’s warehouse. Most of the samples were just smashboxes with a few grammes but the mods all got sent jars.
You will of course be stocked up when the next batch matures, really sorry guys.
That’s a real downer, anyway still got a little of your July second batch left, I’ll bring it round tomorrow for Tony to sample again.
I have a batch of something new maturing - It’s probably going to be called Abraxas Snuffhouse blend - in a similar vein to the original but intended to be a little easier on the pocket. After Christmas I will get some out to you guys as I would really value an opinion.
Ok, I’ve had about enough of Mark W. I edited one and deleted a second sexist post yesterday in the thread about girlfriend’s opinons of snuff. Then he started getting uppity today, and I just deleted a post that was disparaging of other cultures in the neti pot thread. I’m ready to ban him.
Go ahead and do it. I have just put a line on the thread where he moaned about the mods. As I haven’t read all the posts as fully as I usually do, for the past week or so, I haven’t been aware of him. If you think he needs to go you have my blessing.
Btw, what are your views on Vathek? I don’t think I’ve seen him post anything that’s not mean spirited or sarcastic.
I really thought he would take a hint (Mark W) but he kept pushing. You can still read the posts I deleted if you click on the IP address and look at the deleted log. Yeah, I’m going to do it. I hate to, as I pride myself on tolerance, but I have limits. As far as Vathek, I notice him frequently, but I don’t think he crosses the line. Having a negative opinion about so many things is no crime. It just makes him a jerk.
I have just read the deleted log and the comment about Snuffhouse being the North Korea etc etc is sufficient in itself. We all put a lot of hard work in to this site and there is no reason to keep someone who is posting like that. As for Vathek, yeah, I guess…
Mark W has been nothing but a pain in the ass since he started posting, glad to see him gone.
I take your word for it - thanks for taking the action needed and know I will always support your decisions.
Could someone copy over Mark W’s deleted comments, I wasn’t able to see them before they were removed.
This is the one I take issue with:
cstokes4 This is the north korea of forums LOL. No facts can be stated. Only science fiction and the glorifying of third world, eastern hemisphere voodoo.
The other one is just some rambling about feminism.
What a moron.
The sexist ones were: In refferrng to his snuff/tobbaco use “she has never said a word about it, as a woman should.” Now I’m a man, and I took offense to that. so I edited the last phrase off. Still wanting his male supremacy known he then posted: @desirexe no need to belittle yourself because you fulfill your duties. the traditional female role is noble and hard work. The feminists are the ones that devalue that work. Not me. I KNOW how … (more)valuable a homemaker is. Unfortunately, many people from broken homes do not, and they just keep passing down their degenerate lifestyle, until they completely forget how a basic family works. Then the cycle continues on and on. Keep up the good work, and setting a good example for future generations. Maybe I shouldn’t of put it that way, but some people don’t understand how a relationship between a man and woman should work. My evidence is the astronomical divorce rate. So I deleted the whole thing. He must have noticed which is what brought on his complaints in the neti pot thread to which you responded.
Holy hell, what a pig. Good riddance. Some time ago he threatened me through PM but that was before I was a mod. Now he can take his hate somewhere else.
Thanks for acting on this - we dont need this type of nut.
Chris, you say he threatened you - how and with what?
Oh just the usual “If I saw you” type of thing like he would initiate physical violence. Called me some nonsense like a young dip shit and other lovely names. I actually copied you in on the conversation but I don’t think it worked and I just got tired of stringing it out.
I just take a few hours off and it all happens LOL!
I found he had two user-names; Mark W & MarkW It’s the same guy because his e-mail address is the same. He’s banned at that one now.
Ok, well he’s history now.
Thanks John.
Ok guys, have great Xmas, Im signing off for a few days - all the best to you and your families. Thank you so much for all your work and time spent on the site and especially for keeping things going when I needed a break. As far as I am concerned this place can look after itself for a few days now so have happy, restful and joyous Christmas and new year, with love and thanks,
Nigel
OK Thanks Nigel and from me it’s have a great Christmas, to you and all the Mods.
Hope you all had a fantastic Christmas!!
Just a bit of site business; vathek is on a final warning. I think this is someone who I don’t want around.
Just logged on for the first time in a couple of days. I must say I agree that Vathek is being a compete pain. He seems to be determined to wind everyone up.
I think he is one of those slow burning trolls, everything is a sarcastic remark or an argument. I will get rid of him at some point, although feel free - anyone - to do so should you feel it necessary. The problem with people like him is that every thread he posts on starts turning slowly bad.
Anyhoo, hope you had a nice Christmas - that is far more important:)
The second after I typed the above I saw a complaint about one of the threads Vathek was on, read it and made my decision. I have deleted his account.
If any of you are unhappy with that, or think I should have discussed it, then please accept my apologies. But on this occasion there was never going to be any real discussion because I really don’t want him on my site. Simply, on this occasion, owner’s perks. I hope you guys are ok with it - he was only ever out to have arguments over everything.
I to agree, glad he’s gone. I also got a complaint from Nightcap about Greengrass. I’ll say we’r keeping an I on him. but I think he is harmless, just gets a little drunk. and winds our American friends up a little.
I’ve had a rather unusual request from Itsuke. She has a youtube channel on which she does snuff reviews. Apparantly Vito445 has left a racial slur in a comment there and she is somewhat offended (she is ethnically Chinese). She’s asked that he be removed from here as well. I’m investigating what exactly the offense was, and what action has been taked with youtube. She is aware and have informed her that this is not youtube and as far as I know, he has not said anything racist here. However, I told her that I would keep a close eye on him and also that I would bring it to the attention of the moderation team. Ultimatley we have to decide if its a violation of the rules to be personally racist, or only if one makes racist comments.
Xander, I think you gave exactly the right response.
If any member makes a complaint against another based on their interaction on another site all we can really offer is to monitor the alleged offender, and take action if needs be based on their behaviour on this site. The only caveat I would attach is that the alleged offence was of such potential threat to our site that we would need to take pre-emptive action to protect Snuffhouse (eg the ‘porn’ attack a few years ago) or something that we would be morally obliged to report to the relevent law enforcement agency (terrorist attack,death threat etc). Clearly those occasions would be rare in the extreme. Add to that my natural right to refuse membership and we cover all the bases.
As for being a racist - I think we can only go on a case by case approach based on what a person actually posts - as someone once said ‘I will not make windows in mens souls’
I am considering having membership by invitation only, which is one of the options on the control part of the site.
Existing members would be able to invite a pre-set number of applicants, from one to unlimited (although I would probably set it as 1 per ordinary member)
I don’t think we gain anything from having an open door policy, in fact I think it leads to problems more often than not, and I would not have wade through hundreds of spam applications from porn sites every week.
What are your thoughts? The facility exists, should I apply it? (John, could you have a look and give me an opinion as to whether we can enable it ourselves or would I need vanilla?)
Well we can do this ourselves, but I seem to remember we tried that and on testing the thing never worked correctly, it didn’t send out the invites, or something…
Edit: See you have already done it Nigel. It will be interesting to see if we get any new members. At least we won’t get the porn & spam, they even work over Christmas, LOL.
I’m not fond of a invite only system due to the isolated nature of snuff use. Members in the US would probably have no invites since it is still scarce over here. If the application approval load is getting to be too much, why not just allow all of the mods to share that responsibility.
Also, Itsuke contacted me as well. I saw Vito’s comment and if it were up to me he would be gone from here.
Chris, can you give us the link?
It’s also interesting that Vito is subscribed to a profile named OiSkinHead
Thanks for the link, yes not nice. But been checking his postings on here and he does seem ok with the posts so far.
Re invitation only membership, I’m inclined to agree with Chris. I feel that even in the UK snuffers tend to be thin on the ground so many who might want to join the site will have no opportunity to do so, and the situation will be even more tricky in many other countries. I would never have been able to join myself if an invitation had been needed.
I just applied it to keep vathek off for a while in case he tried to get back in, at the moment its not configured and wont work - it can go back in a while
I’ve let Itsuke know the decison. She says she understands it, however she has been building her case in video form: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhqAqRh0Hr4&feature=g-all-u&context=G2dfb9a6FAAAAAAAACAA Although I agree with everything she says, I still think all we can do is monitor this guy.
| Vito445 |
@TomStrasbourg I dont think i ever could not function without a drink, but if multiple days passed without it i used to get seriously depressed. I was never a heavy drinker when i was a freshman though, that seems kinda early, for me it was sophmore/junior year. Oddly enough i have never blacked out from drinking, and i have never thrown up, i guess i have a really strong stomach. If i feel like i am going to puke which is rare, i usually end up falling asleep or passing out. I always saw this as a valuble trait that would make it easier to drink more often, which was stupid looking back. I got in some trouble with the law last summer right when school ended, my junior year, that made drinking a very rare opportunity, and i had to deal with it. I had also quit smoking about a month before school ended. When this year, my senior year, had started; i began to start drinking again and it was okay for a couple weeks, but then in the course of 4 days i went on this crazy binge where i was drinking way more than i ever had non stop ( i had 4 days off of school) the majority of it i did alone, and i also did some real bad drugs during that 4 days. When i had to go to work one morning i was so fucked up from last night that i almost got into 4 car accidents, i fucked up so many orders at work, and i almost broke down around my last hour at work, my mind had never been in this kind of place. After thatsunday i went sober for awhole month, cold turkey, and i went back to smoking cigarettes (A lot) as a crutch. no drinking, no drugs, just cigs. After a month i started drinking at social occasions with friends, as casually as possible and on rare occasions, and i had absolutly no problem with letting it get out of hand. So i moved onto eliminating smoking cigs again, putin a huge order of snuff, and sucessfully quit. Im better than ever now with substances, my only habitual substence is snuff, which helps me breathe better anyway.
Im sorry if this post is out of line, and and i know it is clearly off topic so sorry about that, but hearing other peoples story or conflicts with alcohol or any substances is just really thought provoking after what i went through, and honestly i feel so great now, like im in charge completely over what i put in my body, i just hope that you can reach that soon because it really is a great feeling.
@TomStrasbourg I dont think I ever could not function without a drink(less)
Edit Comment IP 24.151.42.26 Comment by Vito445
| December 2 |
The above is what I found in the Edit Delete List. I did not see him posting that in some edited fashion, All I can assume is Itsuke read it on here, then Vito445 viewed Itsukke’s video, her complaint about him then he deleted the above posting. My feelings are they both should both go:- Veto445 for being a drunkard, & he’s going to be trouble. + Itsuke for for broadcasting the you tube, and naming this forum, before we ever got the chance to investigate this fully.
Just my feelings.
No, I don’t agree. I think what she did was prudent. She outed the guy in her own forum rather than makng it public here. We now know that he’s seen her video as he’s trying to erase his tracks. So he knows we know about him and therefore will keep his bigotry to himself here, as he knows the consequences.
A couple or three points:
apart from the deleted drunken thing has Vito, to anyone’s certain knowledge been a problem on this site before? I notice in the ‘activity’ section he has typed up some kind of apology relating to a drunken post.
Is it a certainty that the Vito here and on Youtube are the same person? She suggests that he is posting as a mature adult but is a college kid. Anyone gleaned anything about this? I don’t recall ever reading any of his posts to be honest.
Xander, could you copy your dealings with her onto this thread please, maybe we should all have look.
My bottom line: if there is such a likelihood that the continued presence of a member will damage the reputation or harmony of the site, then that member goes because the site is more important. The very big question to ask is, _ at this point in time is that the case here? _
I am very wary about getting involved in things offsite as that is a genie that will be impossible to put back. I would be grateful if each of you could state your preferred action before we make a decision.
Just coming back to the registration of new members, it’s not an onerous or time consuming task, just infinitely annoying getting all the ruski porn stuff. I am closing membership down for a week just on the off-chance it disrupts the flow.
I applaud Itsuke for what she did, I would have done the same. If we are not going to do anything about Vito on here, she has every right to do what she did on YouTube. Surely her action is not nearly worthy of a ban, or any action for that matter except for praise perhaps.
I find it sad that a ban has even been considered for someone fighting back against a racist, yet nothing should be done to the racist.
And I should add: This is the same Vito. A picture that is on his YouTube profile is the same pic he used on here for a short time.
There is no question of banning Itsuke - I presume you were addressing that to John.
I don’t want this to turn into a long saga, views for and against keeping Vito please. Based on the drunkenness issue alone, which means almost certainly there will be issues to deal with in the future, I am leaning towards banning him.
PS, the resaon why Im asking is because I have spent so little time on the site recently and I just can’t read thru hundreds of posts to get a feel for and against this person
I think he should be gone from here for his racist tendencies, I have no tolerance for it even if it is revealed on a different site.
If Vito is going to be banned, I think a message should be sent to him explaining why, maybe someone should engage him and ask for an explanation for his comment?
I’ll just add this. OK Vito445 apart from from his post that he deleted, has been no problem on this site. Itsuke has been away from this forum for months, then she returns the other day lurking for over 12 hours. Was she waiting for Vito445 to show up?
Trouble brewing.
That’s my take on this, life’s to short.
If what John says is correct, then we have to bear in mind we could be getting set up for something. There are enough people who don’t like us out there.
Chris - ‘engage him and ask for explanations’ ? We are not the web police, unless I have this wrong his comments were made on another site. I have no intention of doing that and I don’t sanction any representative from this site doing so - of course what you do personally is not my concern. I really do advise you to step back from this for a while though - it is just starting to feel wrong somehow.
Racism in any form will not be tolerated on any site that I own, nor would I be a member of a site where it was tolerated, as the policy clearly says. Buy my decision here is to monitor. The second he makes a racist remark he goes but until then - given the information from John - I want to wait. I agree with John, I’m not getting stampeded into some youtube scam. The only way to go here is to make sure our own business is clean.
No action unless discussed please guys.
This was in the Gmail inbox:
I am a frequent lurker on your site and am interested in becoming a member. Upon applying for membership, the application requests an “invitation code.” What does one need to aquire such a code?
thanks for your time
Alan Martin
I deleted this comment by Green Grass in the mailbox thread:
A blow up dolly girl
Nigel, here is the correspondance I have with Itsuke: itsuke December 27 Hello, Despite my screen name here, I am Akibatai00 on youtube who that posted snuff reviews. Just today, one of the members here, vito445, had left a racial comment on one of my videos. I understand snuffhouse is not youtube, but is it possible to ask for removal of this racist from this forum? Even though I rarely left any comments here nowadays, but I still feel very uncomfortable with this person being active in this great place. Thank you. Xander December 27 Hello. Yes, I know you are both names. I subscribed to your youtube channel. We haven’t had any trouble with him here, but I will see what I can do. I’ll talk with the moderation team about it. I don’t know if I would be overstepping my authority if I banned someone for an offense not yet committed. So I will see what they have to say about it. Until we reach consensus, I will keep a careful eye on him. We’ve had to ban two people just this week, and that’s a lot for here. We’ve probably only banned 12 people in the history of Snuffhouse. What was the comment on youtube? Have you reported it to them? Personally, I have noticed this guy, and so far found him to be rather immature and somewhat annoying, but he has not yet done anything to cause trouble. I will get back to you after I have consulation with the mod team. I will act immiediatley if he gets out of line prior to that. Hope you are well otherwise! itsuke December 27 Thank you for subscribing to my channel. You remind me I should upload my next snuff review. Here is the link to his comment, it’s the top one. http://www.youtube.com/all\\_comments?v=eDGmIXq08VU Thank you for your consideration. I know I am asking a lot from you. Thank you again. Xander December 27 Yes, I can see that comment would be offensive. I reported it as “spam” for what ts worth, although that definition does not do it justice. Youtube does not have many options n this regard. OK, rest easy, we will consider this here. Still not heard back from the mod team, but likr;y they are all asleep. Personally I’m comitted to combating racisim/fascism etc. so I hope you don’t feel personally threatened by this kind of behavior. OK, keep well, my eyes are open! itsuke December 27 Thank you very much, you have my gratitude. Xander December 27 Just an update. It looks like we can’t take any action here until an offense is committed here. I think you would agree that this is a prudent decision. However, the mods had a look at his youtube activity and can see where this guy’s head is. Rest assured he is being closely watched and we will remove him from this site very quickly if he brings any racism here. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, and please do not hesitate to contact me or the team again if you feel uncomfortable about any such activity. itsuke December 27 I respect your decision. Thank you for willing to help in the first place.
As to your other questions, No I have not seen any innapproriate behavior from Vito otherwise. My impression of him (basded on hs presence here) remains as I explained to Itsuke: immature, rather annoying and a bit arrogant. I have no doubt however that the same person is an overt racist on Youtube. The evidence is there. I do however still feel that racism in the mind is no crime, racism only becomes a crime when it is expressed. we can’t be thought police. We also can’t be youtube’s police. I think Itsuke’s concern is valid, and she should feel safe and welcome here. I think no action is the best action at this time. Only careful monitoring. We have the potential problem there, we know what and who to watch. Give him enough rope and he will hang himself. Or perhaps he might begin to find peace in his heart. Either way it’s his free will. Drunken postings happen. They happen from just about everyone. If I see obvious ones (which are offensive) from members that are usually well behaved, I simply delete them and thnk nothing more of it, and don’t even bother challenging the member on it.
Dear Mods
Firstly, a big thankyou to you, Xander, for your actions so far. You have taken the time to not only investigate a serious issue thoroughly but to keep the complainant in the loop as we discussed the matter. Thanks to the rest of you for your input; I hope you know me well enough to know that I have considered each point of view seriously and with due dilligence.
Ultimately, as the owner, I have to make a decision and I have thought very hard about what it should be. As things stand and in the light of my current knowledge about Vito I have decided NOT to ban him. My reasoning is simple: no offence has been committed on this site. I am very wary about policing this site based on events on other parts of the web. It sets a precedent that could be abused and in terms of jurisprudence, which is ultimately what we apply knowingly or subconsciously, it is simply not a sound way to operate.
I will write to Itsuke and give her my personal support and to re-assure her that racism will never be tolerated oin this site and that Vito will be banned the second he ever utters a racist comment but that I can not, and will not attempt to, enforce the rules of this site elsewhere.
Thanks for your attention and consideration.
Nigel
Dear itsuke
My friend and fellow moderator Xander has kept me informed of the complaint that you made to him about the member Vito. I am very sorry to hear that this individual has caused you offence by using racist words towards you on Youtube. As you will see from my site policy (posted on the FAQ section) hateful or racist language is not tolerated in any form on Snuffhouse. However, as I think Xander has already told you, as the owner of Snuffhouse I do not feel empowered to enforce my rules in connection with incidents off the site. I believe it would be practically and ethically unwise to do so, for many reasons. However, you have my word and guarantee that if any member of Snuffhouse ever racially abuses you, or anyone else, that the member will be immediately banned and their account deleted. As I believe has already been explained, Vito will continue to be monitored closely.
I hope you understand my position and that you continue to enjoy your membership of this site. Please do not hesitate to contact me should you wish to do so.
Very best wishes
Nigel McCarren
Happy new year guys, lets hope 2012 brings peace and prosperity.
By the way, Ive re-set the registration to admin reviewed as before, just forgot with xmas etc.
Hello mods - are you still there?
I am going to send you all a jar of what may become the second Abraxas snuff. Hope you enjoy it - should be in the post in the next week.
Still here and keeping an eye open…
I shall look forward to Abraxas No. 2. Thanks!
No problem!
I’m reporting in, been lurking present and accounted for. But not much active of late. That will be nice Nigel.
I’m quite happy with it, I think you will like it, it tastes like Terry’s chocolate orange as much as anything:). Carry on lurking just wondered if you were all ok.
Sounds very interesting, can’t wait.
Im quite happy with it - never 100% happy with anything I make, but I think this is quite good. I’m nearly certain that I will release it as the next Abraxas.
Just be aware of the racist snuff user thread please gents.
You addressed that well. If I’d have seen it I’d have closed it too.
Thanks John. For the general protection of all of us, but obviously mostly myself, I have tightened up the policy slightly on the FAQ.
Read it and Noticed the add to my Admin thing, OK by me.
John, Ive copied you all into a PM from Vito. I can’t use the messaging system at the moment for some reason, could you kindly PM ansel and tell him his thread has been removed as there is the possibility of an account being used improperly - I dont want him to keep on posting it if he sees it gone. ta
I tried but I got BONK, something wrong here please wait while we sort it out! Anyway I copied it into notepad so I’ll try later.
From re-reading Vito’s thread I just realised that the message he copied me into was sent to Ansel, who then decided to ‘out’ him it seems. I can’t pm anyone at the moment but if you see Ansel opening this issue up again please delete it.
As Vito has given an explanation and denied making the original post I have to go with that - I know there were some strong feelings here but as I said earlier we are not the web police and given the explanation above I think it was right not to ban him.
What I will not have, under any circumstances, are members deciding to name and shame other members. Any action taken against members on this site will come from here, not the forum. Otherwise its website vigilantism.
You know something: this fucking website is a piece of shit!
Ok, I’m checking in. I could not access the site for the past three days. I didn’t even get the “bonk” message. Then all of a sudden its working again, and I miss all the excitement. Apparantly it was working for at least some people,
Alex, and all mods welcome back. I kept the message heres what I have to say to Ansel when this site goes stable again:- "Hi Ansel your thread was deleted by snuffster, he has asked me to PM you as he has a computer problem and can’t get back to you right now. It seems the racist remarks where made by another user who Vito445 stupidly let some {Friend use}, share his password.
We’re looking into this right now and I do hope you can understand the reason for the deletion, and we trust you do not re. post this item again. You will understand that no way do we want to brand the name Raciest on someone who was just silly in sharing his username with someone that he thought it was his friend.
John, thanks thats cool. I can’t PM although it seems I was able to copy you all into the message between vito and me.
I will speak to the vanilla people if this doesn’t resolve.
Your Abraxas 2 is in the post Monday, for some notes on the snuff see the Abraxas 2 thread. Alex, I have sent yours and Chris’s together. Mark, I don’t have an address for you - you are welcome to some if you let me know where to mail it.
I would value any feedback on the Abraxas thread.
Think I’ve finely got that message across to Ansel:-
I’ll post on here his remarks if he responds.
Ansel 6:35PM
Okay thanks for letting me know. Happy snuffing.
Thanks John. I wonder if this ‘boink’ things happens when the server gets overwhelmed - does that happen?
Don’t know, but Vanilla must do some ‘Work’ in here from time to time. Notice we lost the edit/deletion button in the dashboard.
Vanilla, or the hosting people behind them, did move to another server recently, might have something to do with it.
My personal theory is that a website is obviously a complex set of operating commands and protocols; if there is some inaccuracy, like grit in the works, it will show up as dysfunction. A very computer knowledgeable person told me that coding faults can have a domino effect and I see the logic of that. This is why I don’t see much point trying to deal with individual things like the search being crap; it needs re-building from scratch. Which unfortunately costs a lot.
Just in case anyone needs it, I have moved so my address has changed:
Chris Stokes
2801 Whippet Ct.
Orlando, FL 32822
Thanks, Ive sent your snuff to Xander. Hope it arrives this time.
The Postman knocked on my door this morning. Two envelopes he couldn’t get into the letterbox. One from Nigel, and one from Black Swan Shoppe. Nigel this batch is even better then the first you sent. It’s a little darker and does have the taste of Chocolate Orange many thanks.
Tony, Nigel included two jars for you, I’ll have them with me tonight, together with the new Sam G. SP No1 and my large tin of J&H Wilson Top Mill No 1 for you to taste.
Excellent! I’ll look forward to that. See you in Zach’s.
Excellent, I was worried there was postal black hole that I was just feeding. I would be obliged for any reviews you may be inclined to give, on the Abraxas thread.
Will Do, give my a day or so as I need to do it with a fresh nose. I’ll also review the new Sam Gawith SP No1.
@ermtony, thought we planned on Queens for tonight, but Zach’s will be fine. I can then give Richard his 25g Radford that I got for him.
No problem, just a couple of points about your thoughts will be fine.
For any mods hovring, the racist snuff user issue raised itself again on the ‘Mr Snuff end of year sale’ of all places. My post on that before I closed it was that the issue had been dealt with etc etc. Ubelievably a lynch mob was gathering.
Please put a stop to any of that if you see it.
edit; ive kept the thread open, seemed wrong to close a harmless thread…
I closed the Chat thread by Vito445, there was a sticky so I directed them there.
jolly good
Hi Nigel, I’ve wrote a little review of the Abraxas 2 where would you like it posting? I see there is an Abaxas Club thread going now too.
On the club thread please john, thanks. Did Tony like it?
I did indeed! Though I confess it has a tendency to make me sneeze.
Apologies for the lack of faster response - work is manic at the moment…
On the club thread please john, thanks. Did Tony like it?
Thanks Tony. Is it a commercial snuff?
I’ll have to give it another day or two of sampling before I can make my mind up on that question I think. But quite possibly.
Done
John, thanks mate - it just helps keep the discussion going:)
Tony, A rhetorical question as you may have suspected. It will be very soon I think.
The formatting is a little strange, but when I go to edit it, there it looks OK! Could be because I pasted it from my word processor.
looks fine
Just Found this:- Todd January 9
Hi all. We have been making small changes in Vanilla over the past couple of months to improve Vanilla’s search engine performance. Most of the changes have been behind the scenes, but we will be rolling out a few changes that may affect people that have heavily customized their theme.
We have been looking at most of the themes and making any little changes necessary in them, but if you notice any layout glitches that come up then let us know and we’ll come in and fix them for you or help you fix them.
Found where?
Wow! I made it in! I don’t know what’s been going on, but I’ve not been able access the site for weeks. Now suddenly its working!
Nigel, Chris I have the Abraxas. I’ll sort you out. I see no faults in it, its simply a bit drier than the previous batch. Its very good!
Good, welcome back.
I’ve moistened the bulk again, so you will have a jar from the pre-moisturised batch…
Greengrass anyone?
He’s certainly sailing very close to the wind. While he accepts warnings and backs off with apologies he can’t seem to resist having a pop at cousin Jonathan. Tricky one.
At the moment I am not on the site very much, so if anyone sees him write anything too bad get rid of him. He can always be given a weeks ban to see if he behaves.
He’s an odd character. In the mailbox thread he once posted that he received a “blow up dolly.”
Not sure if he’s drunk or just weird. Maybe both.
Has anyone read the mail on the “Introduce Yourself” of late? We know Greegrass can be a pain, but he’s behaving of late. Two new members Poldark & Snuffarrama.
I get the hitch to ban them now. Snuffarrama would be my first as on tracking his IP he has been posting from Melbourn Australia, London UK and Bangor Wales in less then 24 hours. He must use de routing software.
Edit:- On further checks;They’r both are in South England, could be the same person.
I have just deleted their accounts - the second you get language like that just off them.
I have just taken us off line for membership applications - Ill put it back in a couple of days but it just deters immediate attempths to get back in (and it stopped the porn applicants - dont know if you noticed that John)
Any idea as to the member most likely to create an account just to abuse greengrass?
They must have been the same person, the question is who; it has to be a current member so who has given the most grief to greengrass.
Just checked most of the threads and it is quiet again. Yes it’s a good idea taking membership applicants off for a few days. I think what got red of the spam was yyou tiked that box so applicants had to confirm their email address.
Yes, that would certainly do the job.
If I have done anything clever or useful on a computer it is by accident, trust me:)
I’ll look over your shoulder when you decide to turn the applicants back on Lol!
Oh I can do that, just one click - thats my style:)
Has anyone removed any of joesnuffers posts? He pm’d me to say they were being removed - I don’t recall ever even reading any of his posts to be honest. Any ideas?
By the way I wrote to this greengrass character and told him to wind his neck in. Any further problems regard him as banable.
Re Joe snuffers posts. Not me but it’s funny you mention it as the other day I had a flag up saying "joesnuffer mentioned you in … conversation, I clicked the link and got a message that the conversation was no longer there. That was about the time of the greengrass thing.
Well its a mystery to me then.
Back again. I’ve been locked out of the site since my last post in this thread. For some reason I was able to get in for a few hours that one day, and only that one day in about 4 weeks now. I try to visit the site several times a day, but get only “Internet explorer cannot display the webpage” message.
Hopefully the problem has corrected itself now, but I know its not just me. I’ve tried to access the site from three other computers and not been able to view it. Nigel, before this happens to me again, can you check with the Vanilla people and see if any of their tweakings may have caused this? Thanks. I don’t know how long my fortunes will allow me to stay this time.
Chirs, I just wrote down your new address which I could not refer to until just now. I’ll mail off your Abraxas sample to you…
Xander:
Download Google Chrome or Firefox, much better than IE.
Xander - it seems like you are the only one with access problems - try what Chris suggests and get back to me. If you can’t get on; email me on nigel.mccarren@yahoo.co.uk and I will pass the issue to vanilla.
Btw, I have deleted GreenGrass’s account based on complaints received and his behaviour on the thread “.” and the fact that I warned him only last week. I have warned Dogwalla that he is next as his behaviour on the thread was actually worse but because he has not come to my attention before I have just pm’d him.
When we ban someone I want the membership application process to be shut down for a couple of days to stop immediate attempts to get back on.
I’m not going to download another web browser. I don’t want to burden my computer with any superfluous software. The problem was not on my end, as had no trouble accessing any other website in the world. And as mentioned, I could not access Snuffhouse from three other computers either. All of this points to the fact that it was on Vanilla’s end. Also you would not know if anyone else had trouble accessing the site, since they could not access the site to announce that.
Anyway, I don’t want to belabour it anymore at this point as it seems to be working again for now. However, if i dissapear for several days on end without warning again, that’s likely the cause.
Tom "Bakdoor has the same problem and he hasn’t been on here since last November. We exchanged emails as I tried to help him. There does seem to be some problem with some accounts logging in.
Well, you have my email address, if you have further problems let me know.
If you get locked out of this site this link should get you back in:- http://snuffhouse.org/entry/password
I should write it down and keep it safe.
who closed the whats in your nose thread?
ive just seen it was a duplicate, tried to delete as there is another but i cant for some reason
Was me because JohnnyFriday started a new one #9 as #8 was getting too long and some later posting weren’t showing, I’ve announced #9.
Do you want #8 deleting? I thought of just letting it sink
Might be an idea to start a new “What’s in your nose” thread every month. That would keep things manageable.
Good Idea, and to let the old on sink of the front page then delete it.
John, will that link always work? My problem was not being locked out, the site itself was inaccessable.
The Vanilla people think so Alex!
I’m happy for the nose thread to be re-set every month. Do we gain extra bandwidth by deleting a very large thread?
I can only imagine that we would Nigel. I will keep up with the dip thread as well. That one is pretty big.
I closed the Green Grass thread, I will leave it up to Nigel if it should be deleted or not.
Maybe we’ll keep it on screen as it lets everyone know he has gone - if someone is sufficiently concerened to start opening threads about him, others will be too. The line you added on the end is appropriate. I will put a line on there and then sink it.
I’ve deleted some comments in the Renaissance thread that were going down the racial/political route, I also left a note for those involved.
Thanks Chris
Gents, I will put a jar of cerise in the post for you all at some point in the next few days
That would be awesome Nigel. I’ve been meaning to try Abraxas for a while. I haven’t ordered snuff for so long, I have tons. I hate asking for samples.
I don’t have an address for you Mark, let me know I will send you a couple of jars.
Thanks!
I’ll put it here, just in case anyone ever needs it… as well as my email in case any of the mods don’t have it…
Mark Peters
9116 Harding Ave
Surfside, Fl. 33154
(USA!)
If anyone has other email addresses for me, don’t worry, they all work…
My website: www.FunPetCare.com
Pretty hard to beat that address!
You mean my email or mailing?
Your real estate.
Oh… yeah it’s close to the beach and has a huge back yard, an impossible combination. Unfortunately the owner’s in foreclosure so I’ll be moving soon. I’m only moving 3 doors north, I’m losing the big backyard but gaining other “benefits”
You couldn’t really get further from damp and foggy London if you were on Mars.
Yeah, I spent a month in Nottingham in December… well, it was 4 days, just seemed like a month… :-)
Does everyone else see my double post? I’ve seen members apologizing about double posts but I usually only see one post.
Why on Earth would you be in Nottingham? I bet that was a culture shock, I would love to hear you thoughts on that.
The double post thing is something only the poster sees, one of the little weird foibles of the site.
:))
Re: Nottingham… I was in love! I went there with my girlfriend at the time, she was from there. We met while we were working on cruise ships. I was supposed to be there a month, after a couple days my girlfriend decided it wasn’t gonna work out… Besides that I had a good time! I spent most of my days at the local pub. Everyone there got a kick out of me. I bough many pints for everyone and I answered many questions about life in the US. One thing that still sticks in my mind. I was eating a burger and everyone kept asking…“better than McDonald’s, right?” Lol, I guess they thought Mcd’s was the only place we yanks ate burgers!
Lol, maybe. Nottingham is not noted for it’s internationally travelled inhabitants. They are probably still talking about you. Although both our countrymen have some odd geographical ideas of our respective countries; when I was a cop in London I was frequently asked direction to Windsor Palace, which doesn’t exist and Windsor itself is 60 miles off. A rather mischevious colleague succeeded, regularly, in convincing posses of tourists that a very small clock tower was Big Ben. They all posed with him next to it. The kinder ones amongst us learnt to interpret what they meant or to send them someplace where they would be happy. The ones that wanted to go to Sherlock Homes house were the most disilusioned as a, he wasn’t real and b, his address is a bank. I always tried to let those down gently:)
Ok gents, you all have some Cerise on route, Mark you have some Cerise and Club - I think everyone else has had Abraxas. John, I’ve put Tony’s in with yours.
Xander could you kindly pass Chris’s on to him please. I completely forgot to send the Mullins and Westbury so I’ll do that next week.
Cerise and Club are both intentionally very moist, so air to the required consistency. The are both at their best when allowed to warm up slightly in a pocket snuff box.
Thanks!! Looking forward to trying it.
Roger that, Nigel. Looking forward to it. Was the little plastic tub that came last the second batch of Premium, or the Club?
That would have been Club.
Actually, I’m not sure to be honest now I think about it; what with an entire batch of samples never received by anyone and presumably in some London postman’s possession and the replacement batch I sent out as a result I’ve lost track. If it was dark and very moist it would be club. The batch that no one liked was a shade lighter.
Looking forward to receiving the consigment, Nigel. I see Tony twice weekly so no problems, helps to cut down on postage.
Thanks John, as you say, saves me a bit on postal costs - hope you like it.
The Mullins and Westbury is in the post as well Xander.
Ok, thank you!
My pleasure, I can’t remember what I paid, just send me a couple of cans of plain scotch. There’s a tin of rose in there that I opened so you don’t need to compensate me for that. Have you ever been to Covent Garden? Mullins and Westbury is a tiny little place, like the Tranters outlets. They had a very good cigar and tobacco range with boxes from £5 to £1000 and every Cuban cigar I could think of and a lot I had never seen before. Snuff is seemingly a very minor part and the girl who was minding the place couldn’t find anything so I was a bit limited. Is their snuff made by Wilsons? The rose seems identical to Rose of Sharrow.
No, I haven’t been there. Last time I was in London was 1993 or 94, and I really wasn’t looking for snuff. I knew very little about it at all really. I have seen pictures of the place and looked at it on Google Earth, yes I know its very tiny. A kiosk really. As far as I know they are contract made by WoS. I seem to remember reading a confirmation of that someplace in the archives. The style of their tins and the style of snuff also seems to indicate that. However, unlike most of the Tranters, a few of these have no clone under the Wilson’s name. Jock’s Choice and Particular, at least have no equal. The rose one would not suprise me if its the same as Sharrow’s, as I don’t think there is much you can do with a straight rose scent. Actually most of them are a great mystery to me, as I’ve only sampled the two vintage tins you sent me a few years ago and some samples I got in some trades with toffeenose. Anyway, I’m looking forward to getting some fresh ones, and I’ll seek out some good scotches for you this week.
I do have WoS Rose in bulk, so I’ll do a side by side comparison when I get the Covent Rose here. Then we will know for sure.
Jolly good. It is rose of sharrow if they are made by WoS then. I am taking less and less flavoured snuffs for some reason
The two jars of Cerise have arrived. Many thanks Nigel, Tony will have his on Wednesday. Review will come in a day or so. On my firs sniff it looks like another cracker!
Excellent! I will be very interested to hear your thoughts on it.
I’ll look forward to trying that on Wednesday evening. Thanks Nigel.
No problem, hope you enjoy it.
Lets buy snuffreviews.com. I wrote to Al and asked what’s going on. Not sure if he will get the message, since I only have his snuffrevews.com address. I’m getting out of my leage here, but I will confess to coveting that site for some time. I have no idea what a site like that costs. Anyone?
In principle I am interested, but not in running it or being involved in that side, I just don’t have the time.
Things to consider:
How much time can you give to it; you need to be very clear at the outset that you have enough time to develop the site. This, in my mind, would be the single most important factor. There is nothing worse than a site that does not have proper management, like the UK snuffsite or snuffreviews itself. At the least it needs weekly attention. Think long and hard if you have that time.
Some kind of written agreement, or contract, would be needed if we are putting money into it; nothing ruins relationships like money, so it would have to be a formal agreement with everyone’s interests protected from the outset.
Re-registering of the domain and technical support; I don’t know what deal he has or had, but we would need tec support and to register it jointly.
Monetising: I can’t remember if he had the equivalent of supporter shops, but that would need addressing. Any business with a banner on the site would need to pay for it.
I would expect to get the site at a very good price. I have every sympathy for someone who has gone under financially, but I wouldn’t expect to pay hundreds for a site thats dropped off the net and was sustained in part by donations. Our initial outlay should be no more than tens of dollars, and low tens at that - the spending would come later with development. Sometimes people get a distorted and highly optimistic view of how much things are worth, particularly if they are having money problems. As it stands the site is worth next to nothing and that is what I would expect to pay. There is nothing on the site that couldn’t easily be done by starting from scratch and buying a new web address or be replicated on this site.
These are the main points that come to mind. I think the bottom line has to be that someone is willing and able to give it the TLC it needs.
Buying a domain is cheap, some can be had for ~$10 a year.
The attractive thing about snuff reviews is the scope of the reviews. I am all for SH having a robust review section, but it will take years to get it where SR was.
I hope Al makes contact with someone and simply hands over the reigns. If he did, I wouldn’t mind buying the domain if he offers it for a decent price.
As the site is down he won’t get Xanders email. Do you, or anyone remember his username on here? I may be able to pull is private, or another email address.
I think it was Al Brandis or something along those lines
his username was dajawu
I recalled exchanging a couple of emails with him a long while back. I finally found them, but he was using the snuffreviews email address…
his mobile email:
His Facebook profile:
Well if he still has his blackberry that should get him. And I’ll do some tracking tomorrow. See you soon Tony in Zach’s…
Will do John. Wayne’s picking me up around 8.30. Reckon I’m ready for a pint or three…
What did you think of the Cerise?
It was just at the application stage, I have declined it.
As of now no applicants to be approved with anything like that. Actually, I would be very surprised if any of us would have agreed that one.
I’ve never let anyone in with names like that, so don’t think we have a problem there
Thanks John, cool.
What did you think of the cerise? I need feedback on this one!
BTW, Alex is having problems getting into the site, I have asked him to send me the specs of his computer so I can raise a fault ticket with vanilla.
Something funny going on at the moment. It keeps disappearing at this end! I’ll link it later if thing settle.
Do not delete above images, they are needed for banner
Ok John, thanks
Nigel is it OK, You may want to make some short term announcement. Saying something like we now have another supporter, that’s up to you.
The banner is fine thanks as ever John. I have asked them to provide some details about themselves so I could announce them, which they haven’t yet. I’ll put a couple of lines on a thread.
Cerise? I’ve only had one opinion so far so I am very interested as to what you and Tony think - also you guys across the pond when it gets to you.
there’s an idiot calling himself ‘henchman’ with a reason to join as ‘to talk about snoof, duh’. keep him off please.
Is there any way to get rid of the white border around the logos?
One for John.
@snuffster, I’ll get back on the Cerise later, so far I can’t tell the difference between that and the Abraxas II. Got a runny nose at present. Noted “henchman”
@cstokes, Racking my brains I just can’t think how it changed. Been checking the code and it all looks in order. I’ll go back tomorrow with a clear head and see if I can find something.
One for Nigel:-
[
src=“http://snuffhouse.org/uploads/FileUpload/10/30.gif” alt=“Snuff Store” title=“Snuff Store” />
src=“http://static.cl1.vanilladev.com/snuffhouse.vanillaforums.com/uploads/FileUpload/04/31fea50eb8ae23c59757e4767d6e9d.jpg” alt=“Snus Direct” />
](http://www.snuffstore.co.uk/)
Ehhrrrmmm…
LOL!
I did try changing that last line to:
src="http://snuffhouse.org/uploads/Fileupload/04/31… so and so but with no difference.
Thanks John, its the nicest present I’ve ever had. I’ll treasure it.
Gents,
what do you think about amalgamating some of the announcement threads? The home page is about 50% static right now. We could maybe have; ‘whats in your nose/mailbox’ ‘what are you snuiffing/snusing/dipping/chewing’
Good or bad idea?
I’ve cut the snuffbox and real time chat ones loose.
New Banner
Can you remove the old one please John?
Ive just noticed it re-directs to the snus site and the snusdirect banner has gone.
If its not possible just revert to the old one please.
I notice that too. One big problem is I’m working seeing the code in a letterbox, if you know what I mean. Like some websites that you email them in a slot and you can only see the full code by scrolling.
It’s now back as it was. I’ll have it fixed tomorrow as I’m off out tonight and don’t want to balls it up again. The main thing is I’ve got the links back working and Johan as got his banner back. I would feel dreadful going out boozing and someone isn’t getting what they are paying for.
No problem John, its not really important, just felt like a change for no good reason; the old banner is fine:)
I found my way in for the moment. I did a google search for snuffhouse, looked at the cache, clicked on a thread topic, and suddenly the website recognized me. Bizzare! Nigel, as per your last email: No, they never contacted me, or reset the password as far as I know. That would not help anyway since the site was UNREACHABLE. Somebody is not listening!
Ok, I’ll start over again on Monday.
Xander, do you do anything different on the times you manage to get in? The more I can give them the better, ie, are you running any other programme, using a different computer etc etc?
Someone let Henchman in. It seems obtuse to ban him as he is here so we’ll give him a trial.
We are struggling to get Xander back on the site. If anyone has any suggestions please email him direct. I am trying to get this fixed by vanilla but at the moment there does not seem to be a solution. My theory, backed up by no IT knowledge at all just logic, is that the answer lies in the computers that he is able to access from. There has to be some kind of link?
I have asked Roderick and Jaap to post a couple easy to make at home recipes - I would like to start building up a resource in the FAQ section. I’ve opened a thread in the FAQ marked ‘Snuff Master Class’. I’m basically looking to increase awareness on how easy it is to make snuff from domestically available tobacco for US members if that terrible day ever dawns where its unobtainable. If that happens 75% of the members here will need to start making their own unless they can find ways of smuggling it in.
Ok. I am back in for now. Hopefully things are getting resolved on the IT side of things. As to the snuff master class, maybe good now that Maccoboy is reported discontinued. I may have to one day make my own. Its not unlike Abraxas in texture/moisture, so Nigel you may have some advice there.
Sure, anything I can do. Nice to have you back - I loved Lincoln the IT guy’s advice to me, it was so technical I wondered whether he was seriously suggesting some random website owner would have any clue what he was going on about, maybe they lose track that the rest of society don’t speak in binary code or java or whatever the hell it is.
Well perhaps he can walk you through it.
I closed a cannabis thread with direction to the TOS.
Was Watching it Chris.
Pretty ballsy to state that he expected the thread to get closed but opened it anyways.
Anyone know what is going on with Mr.O’s posts? His responses take up half a page due to massive spacing in between every line. I’ve tried to edit it but can’t. I think he may be copy/pasting from a word editor.
That’s what I think.
I’d like to propose a change to the B/S/T thread:
A member must have 50 post of substance in order to make a listing in the B/S/T thread.
What makes you want this change Chris?
I think there are some fishy post in the BST thread, like the one that says “free snuff” but then ask for Harry Potter stuff to trade. I know that the BST is “at your own risk” but I think we should try to weed out any scam artist if we can.
I am more in favour of just deleting any rubbish on there and telling them not to do it again because that will be easier to do. We don’t have any elegant system on this badly put together site where someone posting on visit 37, for instance, will get flagged up to us, so we would have to manually check all the time. That is not difficult to do in itself but I think a lot would slip through and then you have an ignored or un-policed regulation which is a bad thing.
You have an absolute right as a mod to delete any post on any thread by any member without any explanation, if in your judgement the content deleted is in any way bad for the site. I prefer active moderation to rules - the single - genuinely only reason I put such an in depth policy on the FAQ section was to give you mods complete authority of action, which I probably never explained fully, ie you can always point to pre-exisitng rules. I am going to stop italicising now;)
Chris, can you do that thing you do with files on the FAQ, Ive just copied a link to a post about Helmes snuff. thnks
Re: Trades -
Sounds good
Re: FAQ -
Will do.
http://www.jamesburg.net/snuffedout01.html
Is that the link Nigel?
What did you want me to do with it? Convert it to a PDF for archiving, or move it to the FAQ?
Thats the one. Yes, the archiving thing that you do:)
I closed a thread by “cakeanddottle” concerning storage after linking him/her to a google search on that topic for this site. He/she has sent me a rather curt PM. I think we need to keep multiple threads to a minimum and direct constant questions to a google search.
How does everyone feel about this?
We need to keep an eye on cakeanddottle I remember when he applied for membership his answer to why he wanted to join was something like “Is all this necessary just to join a forum”
I clicked on the decline button! He must run cakeanddottle.com so should know how to behave.
Here is his response:
where exactly is the thread that addresses how well WoS 260g tubs work for long term storage? I’ve looked and only seen one thread that mentions them. You closed my thread asking this question with the google link to storage topics here. Yeah, great. I have 14kgs of pipe tobacco in Ball jars. I know how to store tobacco.
I can wait til mine show up and guess based on what the containers look like, but I figured I would ask the members here, who have more experience than I do with snuff. I figured that’s what this resource was here for.
Maybe you can answer my question since you felt my thread wasn’t worthy of getting any responses. How do you feel the WoS 260g tubs would do for long term, as in years, storage?
Lastly, I am not trying to provoke you in this PM, but rtfm responses to valid questions aren’t very helpful. I learned how to rtfm back in the early 90s when I first started programming and administering unix systems. I know you guys have to police the site and keep tabs on people’s bad behavior as well as trying to prevent innumerable topics on the same subject from popping up because people are too lazy to search, but if you go too far in that direction you discourage people from asking valid questions. This is a resource, and really the only game in town as snuff goes, and people should feel welcome to both use and add to it.
Chris, thanks for posting that. As to you question. Yes we should keep multiple threads down.
He can go now as far as I am concerned. Up to you (unless I meet him first:))
I’d say let him stay, his membership has been rather uneventful until now. If he causes trouble then he can go.
Ok, with you then.
Lets just give him a chance to hang himself, shall we.
I’m ok with the Greek fella as long as he behaves himself, what says you all?
Errr… not so much fella. Young lady instead:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000514415035&sk=wall
Can’t see facebook, but anyway gender is not important. If she’s legal in Greece I guess its ok, with me.
Doesn’t matter to me either, just wanted to correct my previous gender specific post.
As long as she’s not a kid. Mind you everything that draws breath smokes in Greece, has anyone asked her age?
She was 16, I can’t take any risks with under age membership so I have deleted the account. I emailed her and explained and said that she would be welcome back when she is 18. I can’t do anything beyond the industry standard response with this. If you come across under age people on the site it is essential that you delete their account on the spot because they are a risk to the site, even if they are lovely decent people they have to go. An email explaining and inviting them back when they are 18 will sweeten the blow. A poorly worded line in the policy that mentioned ‘legal age to use tobacco in your location’ has been removed, so it’s all clearly set at 18 now.
I think this cakedottle guy might be a troll: he’s asking which ratios he should use in blending his snuffs - even a little kid would work out that it’s a matter of personal taste and no point asking people who don’t share your nose. Just seems an odd thing to ask. I gave him some rudimentary advice.
Isn’t deleting accounts a bit extreme? Seems like writing revisionist history, would not a simple closure do?
No, not with children getting on - they should never have been posting in the first place or allowed to stay and all of the hassle if anyone ever wanted to make any trouble would be borne by me personally. There are not many things those of us in the tobacco world can do against the rising tide of intolerance but keeping underage tobacco users off the site is most certainly one of them. Keeping posts that should never have been made would be a serious mistake. We don’t know who watches this site or what their agendas are. My neck, no one else’s.
All of written history is revisionist; the past is always filtered through the writer, consciously or not. This is nothing of the sort, just sensible.
All:
I have gone through some old threads and trimmed the fat. Most of them were unreadable because of so many member deletions, the threads didn’t make sense any longer.
Ok when I get the time I’ll delete them all permanently it should speed thins up a little.
Closed What’s in your nose #9 and opened #10 when #9 sinks off the first page I’ll delete it. This saves having to permanently delete many pages all at the same time.
Re the deletions, I had a spot of getting rid of old unused accounts, maybe its better to put them on the banned list? What do you think?
I think use the first option " Delete the user but keep the user’s content."
Yes. We lost accounts back when the site had a major hiccup, but that was when Alex still had it. Most of the visible deleted users posts were still there on the site.
Nowadays it seems if a user gets deleted, all his/her posts go too. This can disrupt the flow of reading an old thread. The other two options are Banning and Unauthenticating.
I Unauthenticated a bunch of users that had not logged in in over two years. No big deal, and all their posts remain intact. they were simply inactive or lapsed members.
Banning should be reserved for problem members only.
Account Deleting should be reserved for an extreme special case. Its like the death penalty. Not all problem members deserve this. Its like ultra-banning! Maybe it is good for someone that gets in and makes hundreds of vicious posts at once all over the place. Then a mod comes on the scene and wants the site tidy before too many people see it. WHAM! All gone at once!
OK, point taken - I never had any agenda or anything just seemed the button I always clicked on. Thanks for pointing it out.
I had this PM from Jack after closing, and opening the new thread. Think he makes a good point, but in this case not so:-
Jack March 3
Hey there!
I’ve just a small suggestion. With the popular threads, it would be nice if you could link the old thread in the first post, for the sake of continuity.
What do you say ?
Cheers,
Jack
SnuffHead 1:05PM
Hi Jack, thanks for the PM. Your idea of a link to a closed thread is a good one, but I don’t think so with “What’s In Your Nose” We used to let the thread run for so long until it slowed down. Then opened a new one then deleted the old (not really deleted, but just hidden) Then when I came to permanently delete I was met with thousands of posts that I can only delete at 10 at a time!
As I say your idea is a good one, but not in the case of this thread as our plan is to start a new “What’s In Your Nose” monthly, let the old one sink off the front page, then delete prominently to save band width.
Thinking about it, why would anyone be interested in what a member had in is nose weeks ago lol.
Again thanks for you input, I’ll copy & paste this into our private mods stream.
Thanks John
I’ve closed the “Newbie Have a Question” thread.
I knew that was gonna happen…
In her thread about her nose issue she noted that she was beaten up by a “gang” of “black” girls when she was young. Something tells me she isn’t the most tolerant person on mother earth.
I don’t think there’s even a slight chance that thread would have stayed civil.
Not a bit, that’s why I nipped it in the bud.
According to her, all Native Americans are drunks:
Vepr 7:31PM
But thats what bothers me, it isn’t a stereotype. I find it distasteful that people actually use ebonics. There is nothing pleasant about it, it’s base and positively offensive to my native language. Now I have lived in more places than most people, and I’ve met more people of different racial groups than probably everyone on here. Now a lot of stereotypes are true, thats why they exist in the first place. Such as natives being drunks for example, it’s not that these people drink a lot, its a genetic issue that makes them far more affected by alcohol than other races. So no, I don’t agree with you that ebonics is a stereotype and I’m offended that you’ve made me out to be some kind of monster because I used that statement in my post. I’m well read, and extremely knowledgeable on racial differences. And I would appreciate an apology so that we can be on good terms once again.
cstokes4 7:32PM
No, you will not receive an apology. If you don’t like it, leave.
I’ll be damned if I give her an apology. Nigel I would like you to work this out with her, my emotions are getting the best of me on this one.
She seems to have no common sense, bringing up something like that on a worldwide forum, so may different people from so many different places…
I have just banned her. She sent me an essay length PM, an entire page of non-paragraphed rambling garbage, about how revolting it is that people use language in a way that deeply upsets her; it was like the last mad female here ‘whistlr’ - it could even be her. I have never read a more intolerant, unpleasant piece of crap. I don’t want her on the site. I have just put her on the banned list, not deleted the account
I think you handled the thread pretty good and I agree with you shutting it down.
Btw, please keep an eye on the kid with the ‘texting’ way of writing, if it does transpire he or she is under age that is one that has to be deleted, whatever thread is made to look disjointed through doing so. The SOP for underage people that get on is deletion, no exceptions.
Thanks Nigel.
She PM’d me again after I told her to take it up with you. Thanks for taking care of it.
Looks like I missed all the fun. Yep, sounds like masked racism/ignorace. Its funny the backbending these folks do to somehow justify to themselves what should obviously be repugnant. Too much Rush Limbaugh I bet.
That’s odd, a visible double post - not seen one before - as opposed to just seeing it when you post, anyhow…
Xander, she was some kind of case - I started reading the PM she sent, which began by her saying she wanted to complain about Chris and for the first couple of lines I was thinking 'what terrible event has just happened?, because the post was an entire screen’s worth, and then as I got further in it was some real loony tune stuff about how disgusting it is that people don’t use English properly and some trash about ‘ebonics’ and certain ethnic groups being naturally stupid - by the end I was pretty nauseated, just disgusting bigotry plain and simple - probably from a nut.
One thing I picked up when I worked at Scotland Yard (police HQ) in the 90s - people who send densely written or typed long, long letters tend to have mental issues (obviously, length is not the issue itself, just the rambling, repetitious, paranoid/complaining type) . It’s not an exact science by any means and on it’s own doesn’t prove a thing, it was just something the psych profilers had got a feel for over the years and I have to say it does seem to have some basis in fact, judging from my own experience. It was clear to me that she would be forever getting insulted and posting immense pages of verbal garbage like whistlr used to, and bombarding me/us/the members with lengthy diatribes a propros nothing. I do wonder if it was Whistlr? same style.
Thanks for staying as cool as you did Chris - I could feel my blood pressure rising in two seconds flat.
Ps, Xander - did the snuff ever arrive? I have lost a lot of packages sent to the US since before Christmas.
Nigel, which snuff? I’ve gotten three packages since Chrstmas from you. I thought I imformed you. I got the M&W for our trade. I got the Abraxas Cerise (one for Chris) and another Abraxas - in a plastic jar, unlabeled. Not sure which one this is. Club? and one of the same for Chirs, already delivered. I am in process of putting some things together to send you. It just lacks the main thing which was a few scotches, as soon as I can go out and get them. As for the double post, I noticed it too, feel free to delete the superfluous one. Actually it was a triple from my end. Lots of odd technical things befoul this whole forum.
Nigel, I feel tawdry asking for it, but I would like to see the PM from Vepr just for elucidation purposes (or is it deviant entertainment?), as long as its not too personal to share.
I’ve been getting PM’s about Vepr and why we banned her. Starting to become like a broken record.
Missed it all Too. But I can tell you it wasn’t Whistlerrrr for sure, and for a woman her language was crude. To a Brit anyway, pleased she’s gone!
@Snuffster about it if it’s really bothering you.
If another conversation of the same flavor should arise again, I would do the same. I have no tolerance, patience, respect, or time for those that choose to stereotype others based on the color of their skin or their ethnic origin. Of course you are not privy to the PMs she sent the mods, all of which were racist and highly offensive.
We have NO obligation to “notify” someone that they are being banned. Membership is voluntary on both ends. Should someone create an issue, they are no longer welcome. It is all in the TOS which is as far as we go for any “obligation” we have to the members and how we expect them to behave.
Excellent response Chris. If he is so bent out of shape about the loss of one racist nut to this site - after your very measured reply, as above, he can join her. Any further from him just refer him to me with no more ado. I suggest you cut off from this and send any flak my way now.
Good moderation, thanks.
Thanks Nigel.
I think KG05 is a troll.
He is and he’s gone (not deleted). Remember all the ^^ stuff? Hi five bru^^?
The right to be a member is earned from the outset by a person’s standard of behaviour and some demonstrable interest in our hobby. Personally I don’t have a problem with people who didn’t get much schooling and struggle to write and use English to basic standards, but this constant text speech and the fact that straight away the behaviour is goading and provocative is just trouble for the future. Vespr was wrong in her behaviour because she clearly thought ‘K whatever’ was a ‘dumb black kid’. Actually I think it is someone here just to piss about - maybe one of our old troll friends, maybe the individual that was abusing Greengrass and pretending to be a non English speaker, who knows?
Xander - I just saw your request re the pm from Vespr. It wasn’t personal just not something I would keep on my system longer than it took to read - nasty racist/educationalist lunatic garbage. One to forget.
I meant the M and W snuff - I can’t remember if you said you had got it. At the moment I seem to be losing 40% of things sent across the pond.
I have copied you all into a pm between Gentleman and myself, concerning his snuff wiki project. He sent me a message about it last week and I was politely supportive I suppose. He has now created a snuffhouse page on his wiki thing - I did not ask for this and I suppose he took my response to mean I wanted to be part of it. I copied you guys into my last message to him it in case it was something you - as a group or on an indiividual basis - might be interested in; it goes without saying that you would have my complete trust to make of it what you want with the snuffhouse name, but it’s not something I have the time or interest to get involved in and I have said that to him.
At his request, I have deleted snuffgrinders account. I kept the text to avoid the issues raised above. Anybody aware of any problems in connection with this member?
Isn’t that Jaap?
No. I’ve communicated with him sporadically. Seemed ok, maybe a bit uptight, but mainly normal. I left a comment, don’t know if it was appropriate.
Never mind, Snuffmiller is Jaap, right?
Yeah, snuffmiller is Jaap.
Ok, that scared me for a minute, I thought Jaap was deleting his account…
I find it odd that he would be pariticipating in discussion one day and then want to leave suddenly. Who knows? Perhaps he had personal issues to contend with.
I don’t understand why people want their accounts deleted, if they want to leave why not just leave?
Could be dozens of things. A wife who says " you spend too much time on that nonsense, leave it or I leave you!" or perhaps some one has dones something to offend him, and he feels this is the the only way to saistfy his conscince ala Sir Thomas More. You’re familiar Stokes? In any case the account deletion is certainly symbolic, of course one could just cease partiticipation, but doing so does not create a declaration. What this man’s declaration sybolizes remains a mystery. Perhaps he, himslelf felt he was devoting too much time here and had to make a formal break. Like an alcoholoic smashing a full bottle and declaring independence. Sure he could just not drink it, but maybe he needs to see himself break with it literally. Perhaps he did so under threat,or fear, or intimidation, or humiliation! Really its too complex to speculate, and I must respect a man’s decicion when he has come to terms with his own conscience. So I will speculate no further; I just wanted to give an example of possibilities. What is in his mind is his own business, and he is certainly within his rights to do so. Sorry to be so longwinded. I mean to say it bothers me a bit as well, but I know its really not my business to ask or to know since I was not his confidant.
Familiar indeed. Poignant.
I think you have a point that it is not our business.
Alex, would you like me to email you the snuffbox pictures? I know this site messes with your PC.
what pictures?
the pics of the snuffboxes from the Smithsonian
Oh, I see, you just posted them. No, that’s fine. I can see them, its just all kind of weird here, but I can manage to see them. I’m not a tech guru so can’t tell you what my issue is precisely, but yes I can see them. Thanks. Cool stuff.
I think asking for deletion is a comment in itself; maybe he wanted me to ask him why etc etc but I would only do that if I was interested. So I just clicked him in to history with nary a comment.
The IT guy says he is going to have a look at our issues this week, or as soon as some work at his end get completed or something.
I came in through the front door (snuffhouse.org) instead of through vanilla. So that is working, at least at the moment.
Another member requesting deletion of his account: roosterman, as with the last I have kept the content.
Do you think this is significant?
How many post did he have? I don’t think he has been around for a while.
I didn’t recognise the name and just deleted without looking at his stats, just seemed odd; two in as many days. Probably nothing more than coincidence.
did you not see this? I’m not sure what it is in response to: "Ok, I didn’t realize this forum was a business , umm to bad , I would like the owner of this forum to remove my user name from the board, or ban me, what ever it is he thinks he needs to do , I just wont be a part of a forum that is a business
Where was that posted?
Found it, the nose thread.
I can’t believe people don’t know that most forums are businesses… Weird…
Hmmm, I posted my last comment over an hour ago, seems like just minutes…
I keep getting that stupid boink message. Vanilla are looking into the issues we have.
I got the same thing Nigel.
Should be temporary, they are looking at the DNS coding…whatever that is.
Gents
I am in the process of getting quotes and some options for the re-designed Snuffhouse; it will be done as soon as their project manager allocates someone and gets some artwork done. This is no longer about getting round to it when I can - I am getting this thing fixed as soon as humanly possible.
Obviously I can’t do this by committee but I will be concentrating on the faults reported to date, including Xander’s issues.
I sent an email to John and Alex - the only two addresses I have for some reason - to ask if everyone wants to carry on as a moderator.
The reason I ask is that the re-development just creates a kind of natural break in the proceedings. I would hope everyone want to carry on but would like to re-assure you that if you don’t there will be no hard feelings; you have all done this for a good length of time and it would be understandable to want a break from it. Anyone wanting to go on R and R would be welcome to come back anytime they wanted. You are the best bunch of mods anywhere, in my view.
I’m happy to carry on. It doesn’t feel like I have done a lot so far!
Just being there is doing it. But, that can turn into a drag when you are running a busy life and maybe feel obliged to log on when you wouldn’t otherwise - this is just one of my periodic ‘everyone ok?’ things:)
I’m good! I moved today so I’ve been absent but everything will be back to usual tomorrow.
I’m good, kind of “off” lately but mostly ok. I have no problems carryng on here, but it will be when I want to, and some days I don’t pop in. Nigel, thanks for keeping me in the loop on the emails. I only have Tony’s business email so I didn’t forward it. I don’t think I have Chris’ current one or Mark’s. You might want to ask here and keep a record of them. This mod thread does not show up as it once did, so unless i come to the bookmark I have for it specifically, I don’t see the new posts in it. By bookmark, I mean my own on my browser. The one on the site is no longer working. When I click bookmarks, I simply get returned to the general discussion page. There seem to have been a number of tweaks around here, and for awhile, I could not delete messages, or even edit my own. This seems to have resolved itself though.
Ok, no mod has to be ‘on duty’ if he doesn’t have the time. It’s a do what you can, when you can job - because I now work from home and I’m here pretty much most of the time. If you are still happy to act as a mod when you have time that is good enough. What I don’t want is someone who never uses the authority, because I don’t want inactive mods, but that is not the same thing, so no problem. It’s about willingness to use the authority not how often.
I’m getting a whole bunch of stuff checked by Vanilla who are being very helpful, I have cited your case Alex and copied you into the email. Can you please look at the email I have just sent you and detail, exactly, the nature of _ all _ of your problems, past and present, with the site. She is a project manager and is getting all of the remedial work done for us.
There have been no tweaks from me but Vanilla have had some issues so was probably them. I will ask them to put the moderator thread back into a position where we can all see it. I can only open from the browser.
I think all my own issues are resolved. I presume the DNS coding business was cleared up, as I haven’t had any troubles since that time. There are lots of odd glitches and bugs that happen sporadically, but I would not call them serious issues. I’m not sure how to decribe them or report them to Vanilla. It seems they want something like an error log. As far as your wishlist for site improvements go, that’s big discussions. Search feature as you’ve mentioned in your comunications is probably the most important.
Its difficult to pin some of the things down as you say, and without starting over ($195 per hour to do so) the minor things are just something we have to put up with, like ghosting of posts. To their credit Vanilla have been very willing to solve the problems - maybe now it’s gone rung higher, I don’t know. Time will tell.
Tony, have you seen John recently? Hope he’s ok, not heard back from an email - he’s just usually very prompt so wondered if all was well.
I heard from John yesterday and I’ll be seeing him in the pub this evening, so all is well as far as I know.
Good:)
There are a few people in the under the “Activity” tab that are complainng that they are still only applicants or can’t make full posts. I can’t change their status, I tried. One has been an applicant since 24 March accordng to hs profile.
Ok nevermind, I figured out how to do it. I switched Fubarman and Damien from applicant to member. I hope this was ok. If there is a backlog of applicants, I don’t see that list anywhere.
I’ve not seen any applicants for ages to be honest. I was under the impression you couldn’t authenticate them without being an admin (I specifically asked Vanilla to change that in my emails over the last few days btw, I want everyone to be able to authenticate, maybe I was mistaken:))
May I wish you, and your families a blessed Easter - or a peaceful one if you don’t celebrate it. We do so I won’t be around til next week
God bless
Nigel
:-*
Nigel - I saw John last night in the pub. He’s fine. Just feeling a little burned out so taking it easy for a few days.
Thanks mate, give him my best if you see him.
Another applicant in the Activity tab with the same complaint as the others. His name is stuart. Perhaps there is a queue of applicants out there that are not showing up on the admin end. I tried the same trick I used on the others but it won’t work this time.
I’ve just been into the applicant queue and approved or got rid of the backlog. As it has not been showing up on the top of the page, on the applicant tab, I assumed we either hadn’t got any or any new ones had been dealt with. Another piece of functionality dropped off then. I will check more often.
Just to re-iterate: any applicant giving anything other than a direct response to the joining question is a fail, so: ‘qwerty’, ‘yes’, ‘to buy snuff, find stockists’ etc are all fails. These applicants have clearly never read the site, otherwise they would realise they don’t have to join to buy snuff.
Just experimenting with a recommended theme, lets see how it goes as vanilla solve the various issues.
this one’s an eye killer for me
Nigel, I can’t see any applicant list. I only knew about the applicants becuase they were vocal. The Actitivity tab shows what anyone writes on their wall. So a few applicants posted there, that they couldn’t get to post anywhere else or that they were languishing in applicant status. I have to agree about the eye killer thing.
I need Vanilla to switch it back, don’t worry that will happen - things are bit all over the place at the minute and I’m doing about ten things at one.
Just experiementing
Banned somebody?
Yes, Ctcm or whatever he was called. I asked him not to turn the happy easter thread into a religious argument and he said he no longer wanted anything to do with me or the site. He asked for complete deletion and I was happy to oblige.
Gents
I have decided to close Abraxas down and I am considering whether I will be keeping the site or selling it.
I will let you know what I decide to do as soon as I have made a firm decision - it is, obviously, a matter of personal choice if you carry on as moderators, if you do you will be doing so without any direct support from me as I will be taking a couple of weeks to think things over.
Either way, my sincere thanks for all the help over the couple of years that I have owned Snuffhouse. You have all, in one way or another, played your part in ensuring the high standards that we have always aimed for.
Best wishes
Nigel
What is going on Nigel? I don’t think that because of 1 person you should be pulling your product or selling the site!?
Ok Nigel, take some time and clear your head if you need it. We’ll try to keep the place clean and tidy until you come back. But I’m with Chris in thinking not to let one person who you don’t really know from Adam upset you enough to jepordize everything you’ve worked on.
Thanks Guys, it’s not through one bad review, although I admit it spooked me into action and caught me at a low point personally. Basically, I have too much going on. I may continue with Abraxas but I will sell the site in all probability - but not to anyone and if I don’t get the right person I will hold on until I do.
My Dear Friends
AS I mentioned earlier, my intention was to sell the site. The reason for this is simply that I can not continue to give it the care and attention that it deserves whilst working on my other interests and trying to build my snuff venture up. I had always intended to give David Anderson the first refusal and I am happy to say that David has now bought the site. If I did not believe that he was a safe pair of hands, I assure you I would never have sold Snuffhouse to him.
I would like to say a big thank you for all the support you have given me over the 18 months or so - individually and as a group you have helped me out more times than I can remember and you have put up with my idiosyncrasies and bouts of illness or insanity with real kindness. Special thanks to John for all of the IT help.
John, Tony, Mark, Chris and Alexander - thank you and God bless.
Nigel
Thanks Nigel, it must have taken a lot to let go of this place, I commend you for that.
I hope things start to look up for you.
I made this visible as a category again, only mods and admins can see it.
Thanks Chris.
I have now passed on as much information as I can to David, just the stuff you do when you move house in effect.
I have said to him, and say it to you now: if you ever need an extra pair of hands, just ask. I’m not looking to do any moderating but if everyone was on vacation or something I would cover without any problems.
That said - I am now no longer a mod or administrator so this will be my last post on this thread. God bless chaps.
What is everyone’s thoughts on the ISTA? Right now it is hid from view for members and I think even mods. Personally I don’t see the value in it, seems like the only purpose it served was for people to constantly bring up what it was, or where it was or who was in it. I’m fine with leaving it as it is, or with cleaning up the categories a bit and deleting it. Thoughts?
Keep it on hold for now. Too many other things to keep up with at the moment. I think we should try anddo something with it in the future though.
Chris, can we have a category titled something like: “Snufftaking Advice, Tips, and Techniques”? I was reassigning some old discussions and it occurs to me that is a pretty common theme. Am I able to create categories? If so how to do it?
Good idea.
Done.
Yes you can create categories, in the dashboard under the Category area.
Are one of you guys approving memberships?
I don’t seem to have access to anything significant, let alone approving memberships, so effectively all I’m doing is keeping an eye on the discussions. I do have time to do a little more…
Ditto here… I’m on here a lot, I just don’t post much. I can delete a comment or thread, I think that’s about it. Hey Tony!
I think you guys can change the Categories and the Change Log. At least I could when I was a mod.
http://snuffhouse.org/dashboard/log/spam
If you guys want to change a category, please just let me know before you do so.
Also, I have changed John back to a Mod. I’m not opposed to having another Admin but that person would need to be on the forum regularly. If any of you are savvy with backstage operations of websites or forums, let me know and I will discuss with Dave about adding another Admin, in the end it is his decision.
I never saw any of the “dashboard” stuff before and I don’t see how i would get back there other than the link. Something weird going on, on my end… after I post a comment, the text stills shows up in the “leave a comment” box, even if i erase it…
Lol, now it’s not doing it any more…
The “Dashboard” won’t show up unless you are an Admin, I had to use a link when I was a mod.
Cool, I’ll bookmark it.
Ok, I’ve changed the application requirements. All applicants must be approved. A few have already been interesting. Please let me know if any of you can see this.
Aha! So, with that link I can get in there. I promise to be good…
I can’t see any applications. I could access the dashboard in the past by clicking on any given member’s IP address. For some reason that was the only way in.
So far I have denied about 20 applications. 18 of them spam, 2 of them suspicious.
I don’t know about too much of being website saavy, but I can certainly help with applicants if you are having trouble keeping up.
Same here, if that helps.
Ok, I now see the annoyance of applicants. I let one person in out of about 40 declines. Some “reasons for joining” meaning spam are really long too. Also some people just leave it blank or “jkjkjkj”. I declined them too. Two suggestions: 1) Limit the space they can fill up to one or two sentences. 2) make it clear in the application that they must express a legitmate interest or they will be declined membership. Spent the rest of the evening deleting old junk and reclassifing old threads & categories. Now off to watch some more Game of Thrones!
Haha, it’s crazy how many spammers there are. All for silly purses and such.
Fellas:
I’ve enacted a “check box” that makes it easier to delete threads. Please use with caution, one too many pints and the whole bit could go up in smoke!
what’s up with the anniversary badges? lol
I enacted a “badge” thing. Nothing big, just thought it was neat, people seem to have a positive reaction to it.
The check box didn’t work so I took it off. Vanilla is glitchy as can be.
Alex, thanks for all the hard work in re-categorizing things, I know it’s tedious as all hell.
Gents, the new categorization seems to be working well, I think most appreciate it. Also seems that more people are posting in different categories. Eventually I think this will expand conversation on here.
Thoughts?
It looks good to me and seems to work well. I’d suggest calling that settled.
I agree Tony, I don’t see much else that needs to be done in terms of re-organizing the layout.
Yes, I like the “discussion” tab, it works perfect for me. I still have the habit of clicking on the big “S” logo so i wish that would go the the discussions page but I’ll manage without.
Yeah its tedious, but once I get into it I don’t want to stop. I hope that reviving some threads into the new cateogores will stimulate conversation. Also, I’m finding lots of dead wood from 2 and 3 and 4 years ago, that can be culled.
Chop at will, I trust your judgement. I deleted quite a few a while ago, need to keep at it as well.
Does the “edit thumbnail” feature for the photos not work or am I doing it wrong?
Just declined 28 applicants and approved one. Those all came in the last 5 or 6 hours. Some of the spam posts are incredibly lengthy; I almost missed the one legit application. well, maybe legit take a look: peppernut1 (deansmith1022@hotmail.com) May 4 I have been using snuff for over a year, have read a lot of the forums, which are very good, and have found that I can access them via my smart phone. Thanks, already. sounds a little weird but I appooved him.
Quick question for Chris - what does “Promote” do when you click on it under a post?
declined 26 more applicants
I am no longer counting the applicants. Almost all spammers. Some are sneakier than others but I’m declining 99%
@ermtony do you patrol the pipe threads? I only get a chance to look in every 100 posts or so. Also tell John I miss him. Hope he is well and coming back soon.
I’m not entirely sure. I think only mods have the ability to promote stuff. I’ll give it a shot and we’ll see what happens.
I stopped counting the applicants long ago, mostly all junk.
@Xander - Yes, I do keep an eye on the pipe threads, and occasionally post there. Only the “What’s in your pipe thread” gets much traffic and always seems civil.
John is fine, thanks. I saw him in the pub on Saturday and no doubt I’ll see him there again on Wednesday. I’ll pass on your thoughts.
@cstokes4 - Thanks. I am intrigued yet hesitated to try it in case I broke something!
Vito445 is creating a stink, seems like he is rather alone with some of his thoughts.
Guys: please tell me if there is something you think I should change back, I trust you all to keep me in line.
Tony, check it out:
http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/2416/new-york-city-snuff-meet#Item_21
I’m actually very happy with the way it’s all working now. I think Vito445 himself said as much when he commented on the fact that the recent posts link is working properly now so I feel he’s making a lot of noise about nothing. Few seem to agree with him anyway.
@cstokes4 - ah! Very pretty
So basically it’s a way of bumping a thread. That could be useful.
Trouble is that it’s hard to see the text on that background. Can that be changed?
Ha, probably not. Vanilla is one big double edged sword.
Well, the promote feature seems to cause viewing problems for some members and nothing at all to others. So its useless to some and bad to others. Shall we drop it?
Yeah, I’ll drop it.
What do you guys think of the Question/Answer feature? Keep or kill?
I think it’s confusing some members!
Yeah, I think so too.
Questions got the ax, threads look cleaner without it. This certainly has been a learning process.
I’ll bet it has been! But it strikes me you’re doing a fine job.
Thanks for adding the Dean Swift Category, Tony.
No problem! Nice to be able to feel useful around here.
The individual review section is turning into a discussion area. It feels rude to just delete those posts, but that is exaclty what we didn’t want to happen. Oddly, Nigel seems to be one of the frequent commenters there, but he had always kept the review section closed for that reason.
gaurding the gate against the barbarians all night. I found this site and may be handy in deterimining bogus applicants who are not obvious spammers: http://www.stopforumspam.com/ Why do people spam anyway? Do they get paid for it?
I think they are actually auto generated.
I’ll clean up the review area.
snuffreviews.com is alive again. I don’t think anybody knows yet.
So it is! Rather unexpected.
Yes. Do you thinkwe should do anything about it?
Not sure, except possibly grabbing as many reviews to repost here as we can before it vanishes again. I’ve no doubt it will vanish again and I have no intention of posting any more reviews there.
Nor do I, unless we can control the site for ourseleves.
Do we have any chance of that? Did anyone manage to get in touch with Al Brauneis?
I wrote, but the email I have is only through snuffreviews.com. He may never have seen it, if the downed site was not sending his mail onto him.
I think we should get Dave or Roderick to buy it.
We unbanned Tim? That’s good.
Moustache wax?
I want to create an Archive category. As I go through old threads, I find many that have some reading value but probably will never see the light of day again, but are still too good to simply delete. For one, it will make going through everything from back to front easier on me to organize. I sould simply reassign them to this category as closed threads. I’d put a note as subtitle “Delve into some great reading here” or some such. Obviously nothing that should go in the Library (historical documents, photos, etc.) just general threads. Thoughts?
Go for it, I’m game.
I unbanned Tim, felt that it was the right thing to do.
Moustache wax? Eh, what ever pays the bills I suppose.
Tony & Mark, you can now approve/decline applicants!
Oops, I was curious if I could too so I declined one!! It was obvious spam, about designer bags. I hope i didn’t overstep my authority!
Nope, all mods have the authority too… sorry I should have mentioned you too Mark…
I’ll fix it.
99% of the applications are for handbags. Some look odd and will say “Thank you and bye” decline them, they are also spam.
Thanks Chris. I’ve declined a few already. At least I’m familiar with this sort of thing thanks owning or being a co-mod on various mailing lists. It isn’t hard to spot the dodgy ones!
@Xander - an archive category sounds good to me.
Great. I enjoyed seeing the new applicants, before. Plus I’m in front of my computer a lot. Now I just have to figure out how to make my default text size a little bigger, instead of having to change it every time I post…
I created the Archive category. Only mods and admins can add threads to it, but anyone can view it, although it will only be for closed threads anyway. I’m going to work from the back of the General category forward. I don’t think I will add anything thats less than 2 years without activity.
I was leaving the applications in foreign languages alone… Then I realized I could use google translate. So far I’ve only approved one “legit” one!
What do you guys think about this soldier in Afghanistan (Introduce yourself) asking for “care packages?” Is he asking for freebies?
I know that sometimes it is hard for soldiers abroad to order online; the transaction gets blocked because it is “out of country” so he may be legit.
When it comes to languages I speak German and French…
@Xander: I like the description of the Archives category, well done!
This site is doing weird things today. For one, the announcement threads are bright white.
No, scratch that. ALL the read threads are bright white!
I know, I noticed that the font was getting weird as well.
well, it needs to get sorted. My eyes don’t like bright green text on bright white background
its not doing it for me
no, you didn’t see the glaring white I’ve been seeing elsewhere, like in block quotes. It must be an failure to cooperate with Internet Explorer. Also I’m on IE 7 which I’ve been told is becoming obsolete.
IE is terrible. Go for Chrome, doesn’t eat up the memory and is much quicker.
I’m on chrome too…
Will I know how to use it? I don’t like complicated things. Anyway, also not seeing new posts lit up. Makla Ifrikia has risen to the top of the list, but I’m not getting a “1 New” or “2 New” light.
It’s just as simple as IE, cleaner though.
Do you all think we should keep the badges? Seems like their popularity is waning…
We could conduct an informal poll on this by asking a question and then another post with the question in the negative. Users then hit “Agree” with thepost they agree with. Personally, I’m neutral on the badges. I think that they were sending emails to members and that may have brought back people like leman and tom502 who haven’t been around for awhile. Getting old members active again is a good thing.
A spammer got in. - Chloe88 - don’t know how. I couldn’t find any record of her being approved. Now deleted along with all comments. Also I noticed the account had be “verified” as a non spammer. That “verified” thing only started showing up yesterday.
I’ve only approved 1 so far. He / she that they couldn’t buy their fave scotch locally anymore. I’ve declined dozens. There was one that I left alone, they wrote something like “love them all” I don’t think it was a bot but since they didn’t write much, I didn’t act either way.
I have yet to approve anyone! Declined quite a lot though.
@miamimark Yeah that “love them all” one comes up a lot. Its spam for sure. Other ones might say something like “I love your site and can’t wait to contribute”, or “its a great resource” These seem legit, but now having seen them multiple times, I can see they are just general phrases copied and pasted that try to look innocent. I don’t approve anyone unless they actually talk about snuff. Really its only about 1 in a hundred that is legit.
I can’t believe how many fake applicants there are! It didn’t use to be that way, before…
yeah, I declined over 40 last night. Its ridiculous how much text they can fill up.
Is it just me or is Vito445 just a Johnny Raincloud anymore these days?
yeah, a bit. He hasn’t really caused any trouble yet though. Eyes open!
It was just an observation, I don’t think he’ll create a big issue.
I’m testing the flag feature, and have otherwise left alone the post I flagged in the dashboard. Take a look. More importantly, I’m trying to figure out how this guy got in. Clearly he’s not a robot, but a real person. But he’s only joined as of 1206 am last night (about 2 hours ago for me now). There’s no record of anyone approving him. Also don’t delete that, becuase after I flagged that comment the whole thread disappeared. Better to restore the thread and delete the comment.
I’ve noticed some weird things with how I view the site… I’ve been using the “discussions” tab for a while now, it was good, it organized things the way I like it. But for the last couple days… Sometimes there will be a new comment, but the thread won’t show the “number” that tells me how many new comments are on that thread. The text will be bolded, which is kinda easy to miss. Also, all the threads with new comments won’t be at the top any more. they’re scattered about. Same thing with the announcements, they’re not at the top, necessarily… No big deal. I’m just curious if anyone else has noticed this…
I’ve noticed it too. Nothing I’m doing, must be odd bugs in the code.
I’m noticing now that threads that don’t shower the number of new comments, are the new threads, the ones with only one comment, the “opening” comment.
Yep, same here. I’ll post it to Vanilla’s support forum.
Ok, I’ve posted it with Vanilla:
http://vanillaforums.com/discussion/707/recent-discussions-notifications
Yes, I have noticed all this, but I thought it was just me. The whole site looks a mess to me. Its been going on several days.
Just a heads up guys: I’ll be out of town starting next Tuesday until Sunday. I won’t be online much if at all. I’m sure everything will go without a hitch.
If there is something disastrous, you can email me at my personal email.
Do not delete
Oddly enough that doesn’t happen in Safari.
Is anyone else experiencing oddities like above?
I’ve also contacted Vanilla about it. Still waiting to hear back about the first set of issues…
I’m not sure what I’m looking at, there. Issues: all read posts appear white. Some threads not getting numbered or bumped up even when new posts are in them, but some are. However, even when they have new posts they appear white to me. People getting in without getting approved first.
Also maybe get vanlla to decrease the amount of text an applicant is allowed to write on their application. Its a hassle to scroll down through 500 lines of nonsense to get to the next check box, especially when I log on and there are 40 bogus applicants.
I haven’t heard a peep from Vanilla.
Chris, please check out the post flagged for spam in the dashboard - looks like a bogus youtube link. People are joining this site (an being verified as non-spammers) somehow without moderator approval. Two have joined while I was sitting here, Boomer and the guy I flagged for spam. No other mods have been online.
I’m online, alot but I haven’t approved anyone, recently at least. I’ve only approved 1 person so far and that was quite a while ago. So far I’ve just been deleted the obvious spam applicants and leaving anything else alone.
Didn’t Chris say he was gonna be gone this weekend?
Tuesday until Sunday he said, so I guess he’s still here…
I still have yet to okay an applicant.
Yeah, I looked back after I posted and saw that Chris hasn’t left yet… I approved one guy that said he was unable to get snuff locally anymore so it seemed like a legit reason. Hopefully he’ll spend some money with one of our sponsors… There’s been a couple that seemed like real people but they didn’t have much to say so I left them alone, didn’t act either way. It shocks me how may spam apps we get. I don’t remember it being so bad, in the past when I could approve applicants, before the “new” forum.
I don’t know what else to do about weird applicants besides shutting down the registration for a while, which I have.
Sorry guys I’ve been uber busy with school stuff, trying to get it done before I leave. I’ll pop in tomorrow and Tuesday before I head out.
I just deleted a very political comment from jpb123 on the 9/11 thread, fyi…
good call. I don’t even see the thread. Did he revive it, and now its sunk again?
I was wondering the same thing… as soon as I deleted his comment, the thread disappeared from the front page. I keep forgetting to copy / paste the comment on this thread before I delete it. I’m pretty sure admins can probably view it, I tried but I can’t find it, even when I find that thread. His comment talked about a fake war started on lies or something like that…
Mark, look in Change log on the admin dashboard. You can get there by clicking your IP address. Anyway, if he felt the need to pull that thread up from years ago and make inflamatory comments is reason to keep an eye on him.
Fellas:
Attached is a list of snuff… this is being offered to you by Dave, gratis. This is his way of saying thanks for the hard work you guys do for the forum.
Please let me know which you want via email to my address listed in my profile, please include your full name and address.
Thanks guys, keep up the hard work. It is appreciated.
Wow, thanks! Pick one from the list or a certain volume or is it the whole list to divy up?
Wow! That’s amazingly generous!
@Xander - good question…
I think we need that clarification before choosing.
According to Dave, pick one from the list.
I made a choice and two alternates. If somone else wants one, I’m fine with the others.
Okay. I’ll do the same as Xander.
Ok guys, I’ve forwarded your picks to Dave.
Thanks Chris.
Thank you for the kind offer, Mr. Snuff!! I’m so overloaded with snuff it’s insane, I hate to take something that I probably would never use. I pretty much use a few Dholakias, usually mixed with white and scotches, that’s about it. Unfortunately, I’m back to smoking cigs again. I’ll quit soon enough and then I’ll go back to stuffing snuff up my nose every half hour!
I’m not sure if it’s good or bad but I just discovered “RYO.” When I heard people discussing it on this forum, I assumed they were talking about hand rolling filter less joint looking cigs. At least down here in South Florida, you can walk into a storefront, buy the natural tobacco out of a bin, buy the tubes with a filter and “rent” their massive machine that injects the tobacco. It works out to $27 a carton… Supposedly no chemicals are added… I really don’t want to keep smoking but the way they found a loophole to avoid the manufacturing tax (The consumer becomes the manufacturer) is fascinating to me as a possible business venture…
Also a heads up: Dave is working on keeping 6 Photo around as a sponsor via “in kind” payment, that payment could be transferred to us in way of free snuff.
I’ve reopened registration. We’ll have to see how it goes for a bit.
Yay! More free snuff!
kougy seems to be all over the place. He takes every thread he posts and answers each post individually. Attention hound behavior? He must be trying to get badges, got the 100 comment one today.
People like him don’t last, seems like they crash and burn and never to be heard from again.
Don’t delete:
What do you guys think about Green Crow?
I’m not wanting to take any action but if he continues to stir shit… then what’s the point of him being here?
He seems like an asshole but that’s not necessarily a reason to ban him. Hehe, sometimes I’ll give someone just enough rope to hang themselves… I’m sure he will soon enough.
I didn’t particularly care for Snuffster’s original comment either, imho. Sorry! Just being honest…
Nigel has always had knee-jerk reactions to stuff.
I think Dave gave him a good talking to. If he gets belligerent in a response, he’s gone. Until then he will stay.
I looked back over a load of Green Crow’s posts. Apart from a few recent ones he seems mostly harmless. I agree with Mark - let him tie his own noose
BTW - not sure if any of you have noticed that I’ve been experimenting with the ban routine as way of blocking spammers so we don’t even need to decline membership applications. Seems to be helping so far.
Very good Tony, please share what you’ve done! I have noticed that the number of applicants is down.
Indeed, we will let Green Crow do the work himself. I don’t think he will though, he will probably just go away.
Ah… just saw Dave’s post re Green Crow. I guess we need to watch Green Crow closely. I expect he’ll really put his foot in it any time now.
Re the applicant filtering, you can see what I have done on the banning page of the dashboard:
http://snuffhouse.org/dashboard/settings/bans
40 spammers blocked so far without having to manually decline one application.
Just a case of ‘add item’ and then ban/exclude by IP, email domain (as in the two I have set up) or keyword.
It would help if we could see IP addresses for applicants too.
Next I’ll try some keywords based on what sort of spammers are trying to get in.
Oh snap! Very good! Before I deny applicants I will have to remember to add them in. Very good job Tony, I really appreciate you doing this!
You know the old saying… learn something new every day.
No need to add them in first it seems. Simply banning dodgy email domains keeps them out completely.
Not sure how to work the banning filter, but good keywords would be Gucci, or some of the other frequent stuff. Mostly shoes and handbags.
We’ll never be completely free of dodgy applicants but I reckon we can probably filter out the majority in time.
Trying the keyword thing as an experiment. I think it will only reject them if its in their username though, not the post they make. I also reduced the amount of characters that can be put in one post from 200,000 to 10,000. However I think this effects us as well. If its too small we shall see.
@Mr.Snuff I got an email confriming a half pound of Tom Buck is headed my way, so thank you (if you follow this thread) @ermtony If that was your first choice, I wish that it was sent to you, as I would have happily had the Irish DH toast #20, so which was your first choice?
I went for F&T HDT so no worries. I got the email too, so thanks to Dave.
As you guys will see, we have added a donate button to the site. Here’s why:
6 Photo is in kind
Snus Direct hasn’t paid yet
Baldy’s is in trial period
I hope it doesn’t ruffle feathers, some folks liked the idea so we will have to see what happens.
Thoughts?
So, are we a commericial site or a non-profit? We’re owned by a commercial site so it doesn’t make sense to ask for donations, and I predict it will offend some.
I’m inclined to agree. There will be complaints.
@Xander: neither.
It seems that some on here are offended by everything. Call it a business: offended, ask for donations: offended. People like Green Crow want it both ways. The site cost money to run on a monthly basis, not to mention the tech support. If more vendors don’t step up and actually pay for space, donations are the only other option.
Yeah, but Dave owns the site and he wants it to continue since it helps his business. Therefore associated costs should be absorbed by him as the cost of doing business. Another option is to sell memberships shares, and make the members co-owners of the site. In that case both memberships and donations would help cover costs.
I don’t know why but I don’t see the "donate’ button.
I actually have no idea what kinds of numbers are going on in terms of costs. It may well be that the costs of banners are set too high to entice potential advertisers, but I’ve never been involved in the financial side of the site. Dave, yes I’m well aware you have a personal as well as business interest in the site. I think its safe to say that the dedicated membership here shares that as well. For myself, I’d never have taken as serious interest in snuff as I have, but for the community here and all the collective knowlege and general camraderie.
Dave - 450g of HDT received with thanks. Very generous!
Guys: keep an eye on Postup, kinda acting like a troll. Probably won’t go overboard but you never know on the crazy internet.
My eyes are always open! That’s the guy that got in without an application. Seems so far harmless though.
A harmless toolbag.
For Xander
lol One side effect they forgot to mention is that in certain cases, addiction leads to mutation into a monster thathas to live confined in a box with a spice saturated atmosphere. In these cases individuals lose all concern for anything in the outside world including family,money, food, etc, but are only concerned with maintaining their supply.
Scurvy, another new member that seems to have shown up out of nowhere. He seems fine and all, but really would like to know how he got his membership approved. I’ll be away until late Sunday, so I can’t watch anymore for a couple days.
Transistor is getting a bit uppity. I seem to remember him being warned in he past. 135 names blocked from mail.ru addresses in the moderator activity screen. New member Ladysnuff, no one approved her. Bizarre.
I approved one (either this morning or yesterday - can’t recall - been a busy day!) so it could have been that one.
I noticed Transistor’s little flounce…
Tony, the last one it shows you approving is Irish Nick. I think I see what happened with the mail.ru thing. Some of them have memberships gong back to February, maybe older. The program must have purged all existing accounts.
Ah yes, that was the one.
I think my brain must be overloaded at the moment!
Transistor has been a pain in the ass before, if he one ups you go ahead and ban him.
Glad the mail.ru is working well.
I’m rather concerned about the lack of real applicants though. Anyone know any reasons that might stop people?
I have been deleting the Russians. I think mail.ru is probably similar to gmail or hotmail, so I check each one by one to see if they have posted any comments - to see if there is a chance any of them were legitimate. So far none, in which case I delete them.
I was all ready to approve horus92 until I read the last paragraph… I’m not so sure now so I’ll leave it to you guys…
Shit! I accidentally declined “horus92” while I was declining another spam applicant. I wanted you guys to take a look at his application. He was definitely a real person and a snuff user. The last paragraph he talked about how snuff helped him through a bipolar episode in a psychiatric ward… I didn’t mean to decline him, I wanted you guys to to take a look. Is there any way for you to still see his app? Sorry!!
I think that once they’re gone, they’re gone.
Bummer… I was declining a spam applicant and my mouse froze, I clicked again and declined him by mistake… The first 2 paragraphs he wrote were great… the 3rd, he talked about being committed to a psych ward for a bipolar episode… the meds they gave him made him emotionless… snuff helped him cut down the dosage. Now I feel bad…
He said he’d been lurking for months… maybe I can post a quick thread telling him to re-aply?
Sure, why not.
Don’t worry about it. Shit happens and it happens a lot.
Half pound of Tom Buck just arrived safely. Of course I had to take a pinch straght from the drum. Thanks much, Dave! Very generous!
Chris, I see the @email.com banning filter you made. I hadn’t caught anyone, so I added a * in front of it. Then it caught 2 people, but one was a legitimate member. I’ll delete the one suspicious guy, and then turn off your filter, and put the good guy back in.
I’m here purging the membership roster of bogus email accounts. I think I’ve deleted a few hundred so far. Many from the few months before Nigel sold the site, about the same time all the Russians and shoe people got through. For the most part they are only active on the day they joined, or have easy to spot bogus names or email addresses. So many are easy to find. Also I’ve deactivated all legitimate accounts that have not been active in two years. I made it simple for myself. I looked at your account. If you commented more than once, you got deactivated. If you did not comment or commented only once, you got deleted, but your single (if any) comment retained. I made a note in the dashboard on what I think a definition of the “Deactivated” role should be. We can edit it if it doesn’t look right.
I’ve left an applicant with an oddly worded application alone. Somone else want to look at it and see if it looks legitimate?
Here is something interesting.
I popped the email domain into google, and a legit property management company came up… but with a different spelling. It looks fishy to me.
I googled just now and found very similar email addresses on BotScout http://www.botscout.com/ipcheck.htm?ip=120.40.130.70 I was going to approve it and clean it up later if it turned out to be a spammer, but now I’m sure it is, so I declined it. The message was just too odd, and probably simply copy and pasted the name of our site into a pre-written generic message. I have to say though that with the pre banning filters that you guys set up, its really held the barbarians at bay. Only getting a handful of bogus applicants a day instead of 40-50.
The filters are doing a great job for sure. Just wish we had more legit applications :(
Oh yes! And an ability to block the spam based on the application message contents would really help. Is it worth enquiring about that?
Gents, I’m going camping for a few days, mostly I’ll be at Assateage Island. So from tomorrow afternoon until Sunday night I won’t be around to tend things here.
Have a great time!
Thanks, Tony!
Have a good time Alex!
Thanks, Chris. I’m home now, no time to talk about it or catch up on posts, as its late. I’m just popping in for a few minutes. I’ll be back on full duty tomorrow.
Do things look strange for anyone else?
Yes! I assumed someone changed the settings. The “read” comments have a different background…
Yes, I’m getting that too, and the edit icons all seem to have changed too. Doesn’t seem to be causing a problem as yet.
Ok, I’ve contacted Vanilla.
I didn’t change anything, I thought it was Vanilla’s doing.
Also the “like” feature now shows who is doing the liking. I think I preferred this when it was anonymous.
Thoughts on the changes?
mixed. I’m not sure I’m seeing things corretly though due to my obsolete browser At least I no longer see read posts as bright white.
I changed it back to see if it would still be the same: Yep. Friggin horrible.
Back to messy I see. I wish I knew how to make a screen grab, I could show you what I’ve been seeing for weeks. Bright green on white on the read posts.
ctrl and print screen at the same time
nothing happens
Then right click and paste Dogwalla sent over the new logo for the site. Thoughts?
Looks fine to me.
site looks better. still no screen grab ability. Also who approved Declan and mirce? I see both in today’s activity tab, and their profiles show them joining today. Yet in the moderator Activity tab, there is no record of their approval. Lastly, do you think we should reinstate Alex’s old subtitle below the site logo? I think it said something like “dedicated to nasal snuff”
No idea, must be more of the phantom approvals. Good idea Alex, I’ll email Dogwalla to see if he can incorporate it into the current banner.
Also I like the tradtional forest/hunter green we had. Not so much for the threads but in the banner. I always thought of our team colors being green and black. Maybe we can just change them for a couple days here and there Christmas time or somethng, orange and black on haloween… just ideas.
Seasonal banners sounds pretty cool. I wouldn’t mind the one Dogwalla made in green. Do you like this design or the original?
I like the one that is up now,butwould prefer it in green
It looks like another one has snuck in - UncleBill. I’m keeping a close eye on that one. I think his into message says it all…
Yeah, if he makes any odd moves, boot him… I don’t like his first comment.
I just deleted this comment / thread from “unclebill” With my line of work I fly around most of the USA, I also visit the UK and Europe quite frequently. So I get no need to buy on-line. My point is; if I did need to buy it on-line, then I would not deal from a site based in Scotland, or Ireland, a Internet shop that does not have the guts to give other then just a post box address. Charlatans? Well maybe not, but they break the EU regulations.
Yeah, I was reading that just now. I was going to flag it. I won’t delete it from the change log for now. I have a hunch that this guy is a former member or a current one incgonito.
Oops, I think I deleted the whole thread by accident… this guy’s comment was the only one on the “page” so I thought he started a new thread… maybe not, I may have deleted a good thread when i shoulda just deleted one comment… Jeez I’ve only had one beer!!
It was only one comment anyway - the OP. Its still visible in the change log that only mods can see. Did youapprove the guy that just came in named Oregon?
Never mind!! It WAS a one comment thread… Anyone else wanna ban this guy?
Weird, Xander, I don’t see your comments until way later… I haven’t approved anyone for a long time… I was actually starting to wonder why I hadn’t seen ANY applicants for quite a while. I figured someone else was getting to them before me… I wonder if this is a new bug, if they’re being automatically approved?
I haven’t seen any applicants in 2 or 3 days. No, not quite, I declined one yesterday. I thought that someone else was just getting to them before me as well. However, it appears that our application process can be compromised, as we seem to be getting an influx of unapproved members. I tried to create a phantom account for myself yesterday, but could not find anyway to get in.
I wonder if its the Google or Open ID features. People can sign in with those.
I haven’t even found any members to approve or decline for a few days. Not sure what’s going on.
I’m not sure but up until a few days ago, I was probably declining about 30 a day. I’m pretty sure I saw “unclebill’s” application tho, but I left it alone.
The last one I okayed was Daybreak on 3rd July. I don’t recall seeing UncleBill’s application (though age may be having an effect there!).
Someone else just got in: eighttrucktires
I’m going to disable the Open ID an Google sign inoptions in case its that. Hopefully it won’t make a mess.
I didn’t approve him or even see his app. I haven’t left my computer since we started this discussion…
Me neither.
Hey guys… this unclebill guy is obviously some kind of wacko. I’m not sure what to do but I’m going to bed. I’m scared that if I ban him I’ll just piss him off. It seems he can just get himself back on the forum. Anyway, I’ll check in tomo morning…
Been away all after noon and evening. I’ll try to deal with this now, before bed. I’m not afraid of banning him.
Good grief…UncleBill is SnuffHead! IP addresses match. Log in and out times etc…WTF is going on with him? I’ve banned both names… I took away his mod powers too. Could he have been approving all the phantom members and covering his tracks?
I’m really distraught about this. I feel very betrayed, but also gulty to ban somone I liked. It could also be that a hacker in California (as the orginal IP for UncleBill showed) hacked John’s computer. However it seems more likely that John has had some issues, and has gotten acess to a phony IP. He talked like he knew his way around here, made threats of being able to bring the place down (wth mod powers, presumably), looked at the change log (preumably this is when he logged in as Snuffhead, and gave away his true IP location) and there saw that it was Mark who deleted his other post. So he called him out on it on his second thread, which I closed, but did not delete. Its impossible to know how many more false IPAs he has, but at least he won’t have enough powers to do moderator level damage, I’ve spent the last hour looking for some. I reassigned “allseeingeye” to member role, in case john has the login info for it. Might be others, like Alex’s old “Tex”. He could have been monitoring all these conversations…, this could be a serious securtiy breach. Hopefully we can get this mess straigntend out.
Well now I’m thoroughly confused!
So am I! Phantom memmbers are still getting in despite my efforts (insectman). Tony, maybe you can see what’s up with John, I really hope he’s not lost his mind, but if he’s ill, maybe you can see that he gets some help.
I was just gonna say the same thing.
I’ll try to find out what’s what and see what I can do. Keeping my fingers crossed.
He’s got an application in the box now. email is billbacker, same as UncleBill.
Boy I am so confused… oh well…
All being well I’ll see him on Wednesday and I’ll try to get to the bottom of this.
Why doesn’t someone decline the app?
I thought you guys might want to see it. Maybe Chris wants to see it.
I just declined it. I never put this in the open, but John was also Green Grass. I’m going to unmod him until things get sorted out. My work Pc is down so I’m working from my Fire.
Nevermind, Alex got there first.
Here is a screen shot
I approved Heluvagi (after a Facebook search). What’s odd is that it does not show that I approved him in the activity log. Interesting.
Its there. Check the Moderator Activity log (link in the sidebar of the Activity page) We also have an Admistrator log, which is always empty.
There has been a dearth of applicants latley, even bogus ones.
I see that it is entirely possible for a mod to delete their activity. I really wonder what is going on. I think it’s possible that the Google sign in might have created some issues, thanks for taking that down Alex. We will have to wait and see what happens next, and if we get any explanation.
I’m not sure it solved the problem. If you look in the user roster and list people according to first visit, you can see that there are new names in there today and yesterday. Today for instance is a new guy named “Schnupf”
I think I just figured it out. I created a test application, after I confirmed my email it let me in. I’m going to create a test post. Don’t delete it.
I tried one of those last week. I never got the confirmation email.
I’ll be damned, that’s it. If an applicant confirms their email they are allowed in without approval. Check the Wonky thread.
Ok, good. Can we fix it?
Going to try it again. I will delete the test account and give it another shot after I turn off the email verification.
Bloody hell! That accounts for rather a lot!
Sure as hell does.
I thought email verification was additional security, not less.
Ok, looks like it worked, check the applicants. This time it didn’t give me the option to confirm my email which makes it mandatory that we approve/deny applications. I think this has fixed the ghost users and should stop any tomfoolery in the future.
The email verification is “secure” but it cuts us out, which I don’t like. The only thing it really does is verify that it’s a real person, not a spam bot. If it didn’t cut us out I would keep it on.
sorry if I missed anything. The local internet was out for hours. droppod me right when Chris was finding stuff out.
Do youwant me to approve your test account or ignore?
Nope, just wanted you to see it. I hope the phantom accounts will be gone now. We’ll have to wait and see.
Any of you tried snafu yet? I think I’m gonna have to try them, I haven’t ordered anything since Mr. Snuff moved overseas… I have no idea how much the shipping costs… it might be more than the snuff. I stocked up on scotches and D white, I probably have a lifetime supply…
Nope, I haven’t ordered anything much since PACT, I got a Toque order last summer. With Nigel’s and Roderick’s and Dave’s gifts, and my own hoard/stockpile I haven’t needed to order in awhile. There are lots of things I want to try though still.
The shipping is about $15 on a $40 order.
The only thing I’m “out” of that I would like to restock is Brutons. One can of Brutons and 2 tubs of SNAFU would be all I would order… Any idea what the shipping would be? I’m pretty much just a scotch and D. white guy these days… I’ve got a 2 lifetime supply on those…
If you get the 130g thrift can of Bruton (might as well) and a 30g tin of each SNAFU, your total would be $45.90. Use the 15% off shipping coupon SHIPNOW Takes shipping from almost $10 to $8.05
I also (as some know) have so much damn snuff it’s not funny. Right now I’m trying to get off the dip again, it’s a constant battle. It’s getting better. I’m waiting for the Israeli snuffs to come in. I also wouldn’t mind trying the Bubble Gum stuff, why not.
Actually, I’ve been wanting to try some of those 6 photo’s too… I’ll have to sit down when I have a good solid hour to sit down, go through all the 6 photo reviews, go to the Mr. Snuff site and shop. It sounds crazy but I never have the time. Twice, recently (since PACT) I’ve tried… both times he was out of the big Brutons can… SH*T!!
WTF is going on with this “System” account?
what’s it doing?
There was a post in the mods area by a user named “System” the post is gone. If you look up “System” under users it will give you more info.
I’ve seen it in the user list before. I had assumed it was automated.
The new guy BrianCoil seems like an ass. His comments are very borderline.
The Friggin Santa Claus thing is getting old too.
I issued a warning to BrianCoil, I just read two rude comments. I flagged one, you can see it in the moderation cue. Another two I deleted, one yesterday, and one just now. Also something suspicious: his first IP was 216.6.232.234 traced to Phoenix Arizona, today he is at 208.64.64.54 in Miami, Florida. Could be our old friend, back?
BrianCoil is back in Phoenix today, though at a new IP 108.62.214.54. Funny becuase he claims to be from California.
I think he’s a real person, his email checked out on Facebook. He may just be a troll with terrible grammar.
BrianCoil is in San Diego today: 216.246.49.22 This guy sure gets around.
Maybe he travels? Maybe he is using an IP proxy.
Any word from John?
To answer both questions: BrianCoil is in Kingston upon Hull today: 77.86.125.50 Host name: adsl-77-86-125-50.karoo.KCOM.COM http://www.geoiptool.com/en/?IP=77.86.125.50 I’m going to ban that IP address until I’m told to not do it.
Bloody hell!
Have you talked to him, Tony?
Yes, but I guess I was being too tactful and he wasn’t being very forthcoming. Avoiding the subject. I guess I am going to have to be rather more direct. This is not going to be fun.
Maybe we should unban the SnuffHead moniker. He might be less likely to say anything rude or off if he has a known identity.
Alex, do you think Brian Coil is John? I’m starting to think that something is very odd here. What. The. Hell.
Yes, John knows how to hide his IP address, but I guess it doesn’t always work. BrianCoil’s last log in showed him in Hull, and that host’s name ‘karoo’ (named after Pieter’s Claassen’s snuff) was also John and Uncle Bill’s host name.
Well, the facebook that was tied to that email is gone as well. I wonder why John is doing this, we have never wronged him.
Earlier I approved Haiku44, I have checked the IP: North Carolina, Okracoke. This person’s Facebook also states Okracoke NC. The other user is Copperoad, from South Carolina. Both had hosts from Embarq and Bellsouth, legit. I guess we will have to double and triple check the IP’s.
I’ve been checking IPs of all the people I approve anymore. However, you can’t see the IP until they are approved, I think.
One thing I have been doing while scouring the member roster for bogus members is check to see if there are duplicate IPs. It can’t be done in any automatic way, as far as I can tell, so I only come on them by chance or hunch. We have a number of members with more than one account. Greencrow is Postup for instance.
Karoo is nothing to do with Pieter. It’s the name of the local ISP here in Hull. I still can’t understand why either.
re: Karoo: that’s an incredible coincidence! Still, I do think its John. His own emal was also Karoo. But BrianCoil “talked” like John, even when pretending to be American, you can tell. Maybe he’s had too much medication? drink? maybe he’s gone mad Didn’t that happen to Nigel? Where’s Alex Schardt? Is insanity in all our fates? Is that what being a mod here does to you? Am I next?!! :((
Let’s keep an eye on “snuffmaestro” I tried to do an IP check but that will have to wait until he/she signs in.
Something’s wrong with the IP identity here. Everyone is showing up as 10.183.248.5. I tried looking it up at Geo IP Tool, and it comes back blank, unknown.
I just approved Jairo. His application was in Portuguese, and his IP checks out as Brazil. Yet, I remember that John spoke Portuguese, am I just paranoid now?
Maybe. I’m a bit paranoid as well.
I have contacted Vanilla about the IP thing.
Vanilla is fixing the IP problem.
Contacted Vanilla again about the IP thing.
Good, we really need that fixed. I approved a bunch of new applicants over the weekend, but am relying on their honesty alone!
According to Lincoln at Vanilla, they are working on a patch and it is “on the front burner” so he said.
I’m not approving the current applicant (jodi1956) since they seem to not understand what our site is about. However, I’m not declining it either as maybe they do want some info here, but I have declined similar ones in the past. Your call, Chirs.
1st problem and he’s gone. I have a bad feeling.
Looks like the IP issue might be resolved. Some users will still display the blank IP until they log in again.
Let’s keep an eye on “porthole”
so far nothing from porthole. Keep an eye on Uncle Squinty. I no longer trust anyone named “uncle”.
The change log is a big mess. I was going to do a bit of cleaning, but…the interface is a disaster.
*grumble* Vanilla has contacted me about their upcoming DNS switch. I have replied to them for help. Should be interesting. I’ll keep you guys posted.
uh oh. If I get locked out again, I’ll email you.
Ok, it doesn’t happen until the 27th.
Don’t approve Trentshea
The DNS has been switched over, we shouldn’t notice any difference.
Trent425 or whatever? I’ve left it alone becuase I don’t like his application statement. Should we declineor let it sit there? Do you know something about him?
It’s a her, and she seems to be in high school. I’ve sent off an email for curiosity’s sake. If I don’t hear back we can decline, will probably end up declining it anyways. I simply asked for more info. I also want to make sure that it isn’t a fake account (ala Brian Coil) with a somewhat “legit” looking facebook page attached to the email.
Screenshot
Hmm, I don’t know much about facebook, but I imagine you can tell if somebody’s profile is well established, or looks like it was put up in a hurry. The photos look like ones you can download from marketing sites. Anyway, no under 18’s I guess even if she is real.
Does anybody want to put this mod thread to rest and start a new one? It is 49 pages long now.
Also there’s a massive drop off in spam applicants. How did that happen? I haven’t seen one in weeks. Its not all our blocking tools either, although I see they are catching a few. I’m not complaining, of course, just wondering what changed. One or two real people every couple of days is our applicant rate now. Maybe 4/week.