From now on we have some moderators around. You are able to close discussions well as delete comments. Deleting a comment actually just hides it to everybody but me. You’ll find a “delete” link beside every comment. In case of emergency, feel free to contact me via phone (see contact tab above). Please only act upon emergency and report your actions here. To see who’s a moderator search for them.

We have an own category “moderation” for all moderating purposes. Discussions in this category can only be seen by us moderators.

Hi Alex, Thanks, I am glad to help.

I’m honored to be part of this group! I’m thinking I’ll only delete the very blatant stuff, like the troll from last night. I’m not really trying to be a censor.

Who is that guy Tex, I have never seen him post?

I was wondering the same thing about Tex.

@miamimark: Then you are on the right track.

Tex is my test account. Be kind to him.

LOL I thought it was your twin brother in America!

Thankyou for your confidence Alex, it will not be abused.

Alex, in the need to close a discussion, as opposed to deleting a comment, what is the procedure?

In order to close a discussion, please have a look at the top left. There you can bookmark, sink and close a discussion. Sinking means, the discussion doesn’t move to the top anymore if it contains a new comment. To delete (= invisible) a comment, have a look at the top right of the comment.

Ok thanks.

I don’t want to widen our role beyond what is strictly needed, but can I make the following observation and suggestion: as things stand we can sink, close and delete. However, to my mind, this does not cover the potential case of someone maliciously posting on numerous threads one after the other. The moderator would then be forced to ‘follow’ the troll from thread to thread, dealing with the offensive material after it had been posted and, in all likelyhood, viewed. Would it make sense for us to have the capacity to temporarily - pending Alex’s final decision - suspend an account? I didn’t see any of the stuff the other night - fortunately it seems - but this seems to be an example of when that faciltiy may have been useful. As the sole decision maker is Alex, and we ourselves are just as subject to the rules as anyone else, I think this could be added without any undue issues?

That is a very good point, but not possible at the moment. I can only enable moderators to be able to change roles or not. Changing roles includes changing them to admins, which is like god mode. Even though I am sure you would not misuse this feature, it is to critical. Sorry, but I cannot offer a solution here. An easy way to find all discussions and comments of a user is doing an advanced search. That’s what I did after banning the troll and deleted one after the other.

Since this is for “our eyes only” I’ll ask what I’ve always wondered: Couldn’t a troll just open a new account with a differant email?

Ok Alex, thats fair enough. I certainly wouldn’t want administrator status, if that is what it takes. Probably time to just see how this works out now without putting up too many ‘what ifs’ Miamimark - yes, is my understanding, but as Alex intimates, there is a limit to what we can do I guess…

Yes Miami, they sure could. A lot of the forum banning today therefore works on IP address ranges and subranges. The problem is that is much too broad. Let’s say some guy from Miami comes on and starts posting spam or other objectionable material. So we ban his account. Then we see he comes back and signs up for another account. This happens very often. So they ban his IP subrange, which happens to be everybody who comes from Miami ISP International (imaginary company). The problem is, you and two other valuable members also came through that same ISP, so when they banned his subrange they also banned you. This happens ALL the time. The other thing is to ban people by email service signup. Some guys comes through me@mail.com and we ban him. Then another guy comes from newguy@mail.com and we ban him. After awhile we get sick of it and decide most of the people who have accounts at mail.com are idiots and spammers so we just ban signups through mail.com. The problem is when a guy who has been using mail.com for 10 years and has everybody in the world who knows him contacting him through that one email account, he doesn’t want to change it. And maybe he can’t find another email service or doesn’t like the privacy terms of use, etc. The only way to really control things when the forum starts getting to some stage (and I think it is still aways off thankfully) is to approve individual signups and have reduced privileges for some short period (for example, no posting images or links for 25 posts or whatever). This is not perfect, and no signup system can ever be perfect, but what it does do is make it more trouble than it’s worth for some miscreant to try to ruin our forum. Now on another topic, guys, I would ask your help: I feel it’s important to never allow personal attacks on any forum where we really want to foster a family atmosphere like we have developed here. I mean here people have posted about losing a family member or a beloved pet, about losing a job, about moving to a new country and these are all hard things and most of the people have been very supportive. I feel we can’t allow this magic to be destroyed by people with bad manners or personal attacks. Of course this is Alex’s forum but I would beg you all not to tolerate any sort of personal attack. Everybody has the right to contribute about snuff and shouldn’t be insulted for his views/comments/etc. We also have some gay/lesbian members on the board. While I personally object to this, it’s not my life and they have my respect as fellow snuffers. Thankfully everybody was well-behaved when they announced their lifestyle here. This is too good of a forum and we have a wonderful mix of people, so please guys lets remind anybody who makes personal attacks that it’s not acceptable, and let’s make sure it doesn’t continue. Thanks to Alex for the best snuffing board of all time!

I got the feeling I have chosen the right people to become mods. I always have the option to got to manual approvel if troll keep coming.

Ok, let me try this again! This time I’ll copy / paste before I click add. If any mods want to save my email address so it’s available if the site goes down, it’s miamimark@juno.com. Feel free to send me yours if you feel comfortable. I have a few members emails saved in my address book from trades, and it was nice communicating and sharing info when the site was down last week. Back to the subject above: I liked someone’s idea about new members filling out a form before they become a member. Nothing crazy, just a few questions about their snuff use. That might make it more trouble than it’s worth to a troll. Perhaps the info could be passed on to the supporter shops. I wonder if it would be possible to make new members be “sponsored” by a supporter shop. After they make a purchase, they could become members. They could always lurk without becoming members, of course. This is the first forum I’ve EVER been part of, so i’m no expert. I do know a little about sales and marketing. My understanding is that the sponsor shops basically pay for this site to exist. Anything we can do to help them is good and could entice more sponsor shops to join. IMHO of course…

I wouldn’t condition membership on buying anything but the idea of sponsorship does have a lot of merit if the board gets very big. Then we could say you have to have 1 or 2 guys sponsor you, so only known good guys sign up. I think this is far in the future though. Sponsoring by shops is a double-edged sword. You don’t want to give up control of the board or start letting the sponsors control things. The idea is that *they* are the ones benefitting by sponsoring the board, because guys who come here buy their products. This is not the same as their customers coming to this board. Alex already has my email, the rest of the mods can feel free to contact me through dogman@isonews2.com. BTW since we already know Alex and Nigel’s names and I assume miamimark is Mark, my name is Israel and I live in Israel in the mountains. I would appreciate if everyone would continue calling me snuffbox on this site though. Now we have to figure out who MidnightMoses is

Using myself as an example, no one knew me on this forum when I became a member. I had made a Toque order and Roderick suggested I check the forum out. I see you edited, snuffbox! I was going to put you in my address book as snuffbox! And yes, my name is Mark and I live in the Miami, Fl. area.

nigel.mccarren@yahoo.co.uk (East London) I think we have a good group here, happy to be part of it.

Alex, 0049-178-2667788, mail@alex.aero (if Snuffhouse.org is down), Hamburg, Germany. See the contact tab for more information.

Hi Alex and fellow mods, thanks for your trust in me, I’ll do my best to keep this forum clean. I’ve just found the link to become a member. As my other love is Formula 1 racing I must come back after the qualifying for the Spanish Grand Prix to digest all this page and more. Regards from John (Snuff Head)

Welcome John. Another excellent choice!

I just changed the membership approval procedure to manual. Moreover I decreased the number of possible posts in a certain time span. This makes it a lot harder to spam.

New members from now on have to give reason why they want to join (view registration form).

Good idea.

uhhh… I’m being put under a spam block! Maybe you should remove the time posting limit as long as you are verifying new members, Alex? This is very annoying!

It has always been in place. I only handled it more strictly yesterday. I adjusted it again. You should be able to post faster now.

I’ve now took in the contents of this thread and notice you have all been giving contact details. Well I’m John and live in Hull, East Yorkshire UK. The bast email address to reach me on is :- snuff_head@yahoo.co.uk Regards all. John

Thanks, Alex

Hi all, I closed/sunk the “Today’s funnies” thread. It’s just a bunch of juvenile sex jokes, has nothing to do with snuff, and doesn’t bring out the best of this forum. I have tried to make several friendly hints but certain members seem to have a difficult time controlling themselves. We didn’t have these kinds of posts a few months ago and they’re becoming more common. It seems we all agree with keeping the forum good clean fun and on-topic.

It looks like it was re-opened. Edit: It wasn’t reopened, just a new one was started. (I think!)

Well it looks like a new thread with same title opened by Pieter Claassen. Never give him your e mail address by the way, I did and now all his mail goes in my spam box. He send out stupid jokes and sends in batch and never uses the BCC so all addresses are in view, It’s no coincidence that I get begging letters from S Africa.

Thanks for the tip. I think he contributes a lot of good but I thought his “I love Debbie” comments where a little on the creepy side. I guess they don’t bother her so that’s all that matters.

Lol! Mark you can blame me for that, he thought he was writing his thoughts to himself in Afrikaans and with the help of my poor Dutch could translate it and made it public. He does write some good stuff, but can be childish.

lol, I remember, that was funny! I made a comment, in response, that Pieter asked me to edit, so I did! I was referring to many instances, not just the poem that you translated…

So bcc means that no one else can see who you’re ccing? What is it, blind cc? I never knew that.

BCC = Blank Carbon Copy. Yes you can put your own address at the top, then other addresses in the BCC and then you will get your own copy and all others will get their mail, but cant see who or how many copies where sent, and to who… I noticed you edited that post, but I read it before the edit.

That’s good to know, I have friends that send me stuff, I get the email on my iphone and I have to scroll forever to get to the content. I’m gonna have to tell my friends. Thanks! We CAN learn from each other about more than snuff!

Just curious snuff head, did you think it was a “over the line?” Be honest, of course, no hard feelings!

Thanks for closing the thread. Next time we might dicuss it in advance, but this time it was fine.

When I first read it I thought is was dead funny, I think I wrote "Don’t know now who has the red face now Pieter or Debbie. when it was edited I thought you, yourself had 2nd thoughts. So he was upset was he?

Thanks, Alex.

Not really upset, just politely asked me to edit it, it might make her uncomfortable. I thought it was funny but I have a pretty warped sense of humor!

Yes I think Alex has a good point. If it is a thread that has been going on for some time and getting out of hand then there is time to discuss. That is unless it gets very bad.

I closed the thread about moderators too. Let’s just leave it aside.

Okay. Pieter is fine with our decisions and thanking us for our work. Everything is fine though. Just to make sure: Moderators (you and me) should only act on emergency with closing discussions. Thanks for the quick reaction time here. Great!

Due to recent developments Snuffbox is no moderator any more. He seemed to be mixing up moderation with censorship, which just doesn’t work. Thanks.

As mods, I believe we should only act in the most pressing emergencies and that means letting things go that we don’t like ourselves. My idea of an emergency would be threatening language or grossly obscene material, text or pictures. In the last year there have been only two occasions when I would have stepped in (I didn’t see the recent one) - when Hydrahead started whispering people telling them to die (I was one) and when Farleyflavours posted a joke about child sex abuse. I intend to leave everything apart from those types of things to Alex as the owner, and head, of this site.

I agree. I’ve said it before, I really plan to go after obvious trolls and personal attacks. I don’t think I would ever close / sink a whole discussion. When things are borderline, maybe we should agree to come to this thread and get agreement from at least one other mod. A “forum quorum” if you will.

Hydrahead threatened people before? Why didn’t I bann him earlier? Didn’t I know that? Well, he is banned since his last actions. @snuffster: Than we are heading the same way.

You are absolutely right. All of you.

Midnight, lol! well a username can come from another forum, or work related. Has I wrote on here yesterday:- If it is a thread that has been going on for some time and getting out of hand then there is time to discuss. That is unless it gets very bad. It’s a pity, but Snuffbox had his own agenda.

midnight, do I remember correctly, your username is a band? I hope snuffbox hangs around, even if you gets a different username and asumming he keeps a low profile, of course. He whispered to me several times about my comments, being “not family” I told him this wasn’t a family forum, the subject being tobacco. Several other members basically made the exact same comments later on. I think no matter what, majority rules, with Alex having the final say of course.

Alex: what did Hydrahead do this time to get banned?

I was just thinking Alex; Snuffbox was two hours ahead of us in the UK and only 1 hour ahead of yourself, so no big problem there. But maybe we need to look for someone, say in Australasia to monitor for you. Remember the other week when that Chinese Spammer came on.

Thinking again, Bentonent (something like that) A fellow countryman of yours Alex,out in Korea. Or is he too busy.

That would be good, right. We’ll watch out to find one.

@snuffster: Postin pics of blown heads, racist comics and naked women.

Bentonente (which means “concrete dug” btw), isn’t around on a regular basis. Last checked by at the end of April.

@ Alex, Australasia is vast, but not many snuffers. But I found two snuffhouse members Ausmike Joined January 2008 and a new member ‘Mongrel’ joined 3rd of this month. Maybe Mongrel is to new, and needs to be tracked for a time. Before he’s invited as a mod.

I don’t think its wise to apoint someone who has just joined, for all we know we will have to moderate him!

We will see if another moerator is necessary. Let’s just take our time. Thank you all so far. You seem to really be interested. Great.

Thanks Alex, and and an appeal to the rest of the guys: lets go easy on this and only use our status in the most pressing occasions. I don’t doubt you will, I’m just reinforcing the message is all. I see this as an honour to be asked to moderate and am treating my new found ‘powers’ with a lot of respect. If I don’t sink or close anyone in the next year I will be extremely happy!

I just thought we needed someone down-under to monitor while Europe sleeps. Ok not many members out there but there was a spammer from China the other week that could have been sunk, long before Alex could do the job. We have to sleep.

We definitely have to sleep, yes. I will keep my eyes open to potential moderators from the east.

Ill be offline for a few days, visiting in the North and seeing Eric Clapton in Manchester, later guys.

Have fun!

Snuffbox just emailed me to deactivate his account. He couldn’t except being voted off for expressing his opinion. I followed his will and told him to keep in contact.

Kind of sad really. As I said before, hopefully he open a new account with a different username and lurk or comment occasionally. I thought he contributed a lot, before he became a moderator.

IMO , he can share his opinions. Trying to moderate other people’s (different) opinions was the problem!

Oh, I didn’t know about anything like that, from anyone! He would always whisper to me, saying my little joke / comments where inappropriate. I assumed he was ultra religious and thought a joke with a little "sexual innuendo’ was not appropriate for this “family” forum. Racist or homophobic comments are unacceptable ALWAYS, of course. OT: I’ve always wondered, how do you make your icon flash?

I turned that off, so no. I don’t see them. Should I?

Sad to see Snuffbox go like that, but I could see that coming. I’ve been in contact with him since he joined Snuffhouse. First he whispered me, then we exchanged emails. He emailed my yesterday saying he had asked to be removed because of the silliness. I never learned much about the chap, he is a very private person. The emails contained only snuff related items, so that’s all he thought this forum should talk about I guess. Just as Mark said, I hope he lurks to the ‘right’ threads and maybe come back one day.

@ Snuff Head: Have you read at Snuffbox’ account page who his snuff idol is?

Lol, how modest! Edit: Oops, I got confused and thought he named himself, never mind!

@ Alex, yes…He would often come on the forum publicly saying I was his idol also. I think is stems from when he first enrolled as a member on here, he was new to snuff and I gave him a lot of advice. By the way Alex the attachment button has gone. Did you switch if off so that is isn’t easy to post pictures?

Hehe… moderators weren’t allowed to add attachments. Now they are.

Lol! thanks Alex now I’ll shock you all by posting a photo of myself in my younger days in the OT-Giro D’Italia thread

Back now, still hyped up from seeing Clapton, he was just terrific! Re Alex seeing Whsipers - I believe he should. Hydrahead whispered me, out of the blue, and said ‘Die Fu88ing pig, Die’. Now, as a big fat old cop that sort of thing is like water off a ducks back unless the person saying it is in front of me with a weapon in their hand (which I’ve had), some little twit who is safe behind his keyboard doesn’t even appear on my radar…but there are a lot of people for whom that would have been a very big deal and who would just have gone away never to return. I’m not suggesting Alex reads all the whipers, just that he has the capacity to do so.

This is what Hydrahead posted to me, I apologise for the content but it does help to make my point: “Dethklok fucking rules!!! Oh and I think the stupid British pig should go choke on some bangers and mash and fucking die. DIE YOU BASTARD DIE!!!” Membership of this site, and the capacity to whisper, is entirely within the gift of the owner; Alex. Its not a private email and in my view there are no privacy issues. If members want privacy they can always exchange emal addresses. I think Alex, and only Alex, should have an overview of the whats happening on the site. Another question: are closed threads still readable by all members? I’ve just looked at the one with the joke about a kids genitals. Should this be taken off entirely?

Hydrahead is gone anyway. I just deleted the mentioned joke. If you ever get whispered insults, please let me know. I can turn on the reading ability to all whispers at any time.

you are right, thanks for bringing this up. I’ve just realised I made a comment (in fun) a while ago and in retrospect Its probably best removed. No need to apologise, sometimes a little reminder is not out of place Nigel

Removed. It’s good to sometimes have the other angle pointed out; a post made without too much thought as a joke can be offensive, but the poster not really see it that way at the time, just shows we all need to be aware of what we do.

No problem, thanks for having the bottle to bring it up. I would hate to cause offence to anyone and my wit (if it can be called that) is fairly sledgehammer! You just don’t think sometimes…

Sure thing Martin, I agree with the concept of setting an example on the site and that our standards of behaviour have to be beyond reproach. Nigel

It seems Snuffbox still feels he was correct in just zapping that thread with out first talking about it on here first. Heres two parographs from an email I just received from him:-_I was rather surprised at the lack of support for my viewpoint, especially since other people had said that they also favor a family atmosphere. However, only justplaindave stood up and said anything at all. And it made me rather ill to see the sharks gathering like a pack of hyenas. You couldn’t get all those people together to do anything positive, but when it comes to mudslinging it was all hands on deck. Really a nasty business. And the bottom line is I don’t care to have that kind of content in my home. I had a very pleasant conversation with Alex on the topic, but I feel he made a mistake by listening to that motley crue rather than just telling them bad conduct was unwelcome in his forum. So I haven’t been back. I told Alex if things get out of hand and he wants some help putting the animals back in their cages I’ll lend a hand. Until then…_I find it a little disturbing that he reckons his own views should take priority over all others!

I wonder if he considers me one the people that agrees with him. He whispered to me after several of my comments. I kind of agreed just to not make waves. Truthfully, I started second guessing every comment I wrote and started to feel like I had someone looking over my shoulder. If the tide had went the other way, I probably would have just lurked or gone away completely. I never use foul language or say anything with too much sexual content, just a little fun, “innuendo” SB told me my comments were “mild” but would “feed the beast” I think a forum like this should try to appeal to as many people as possible and I think a majority wouldn’t want this forum to be too “family”. Of course, the final say is with Alex.

Again with the “plonker”!! : )

Funny! 7 different meanings. I’m surprised I never heard that when I worked on ships. I was even known to utter “bullocks” and “cheers” once in a while. Of course when i wasn’t working I mostly got pissed and smoked faggs with my mates. Bloody 'ell!

At one time I could meet a new staff member and tell (basically) what part of England they were from, by their accent. I tried again recently and guessed London, the guy was an Aussie! Pretty embarrassing! I guessed I lost my touch after all these years…

Me and my girlfriend left the ships and spent a year in Nottingham (her hometown) together. Well… actually it was only four days, it just seemed like a year!

Ive just got back from Burnley in lancashire. I can confirm its grim, getting back to Londinium was a bit of a relief. My wife and son dropped me off in Manchester one night so I could go to a gig. They intended to have a meal and do some shopping and meet me afterwards. They ended up buying tickets from a tout as the whole of the centre was closed. Maybe the war is still on? Sorry to any current Northeners ( I was born and bred there) but it is grim. I think I missed this whole snuffbox thing, I remember not being on the site for a few days due to a heavy workload and when I logged back on I found I was a mod and snuffbox had started to be a problem.

He mixed up moderation with censorship why I assigned him to a standard member role. After that he said I should please deactivate his account, what I did.

Ah well, just life I suppose…

A little power to some can be dangerous!

I’ve been tempted to sink that “word association” thread! lol!

And my silly thread ‘nothing at all’!! I only did it as joke after jarhead deleted a thread, now it seems to have a life df its own!! I expected it to die in a day…

I forgot about that one! Yeah, that one too! They’re like a car accident, I don’t want to look, but I always do!

Ooops! Maybe our new status of setting an example is changing how we see things? I must admit, I am being pretty careful what I post,not a bad thing I suppose.

For a while I thought…What would snuffbox do? Then I went ahead and posted anyway.

Maybe something to watch, there is a Grim posting at the moment, Alex banned a Grim a while back - same guy?

@snuffster: Where is the Grim posting exactly?

Found it. The user is actually named Grim. I Can’t remember banning a Grim nor can the system: http://snuffhouse.org/search/?PostBackAction=Search&Advanced=1&Type=Users&Keywords=&Roles=Banned&UserOrder=&btnSubmit=Search

Alex, look at ‘Gray dust on Toque tins’ October 7th 08. I whispered you with a copy of something he said to Fixin2. Turn on the facility to let you view whispers and you will see what I mean. Somewhere around that time he started an argument where he was particularly obnoxious. I think this was about the time when you were otherwise occupied moving house. It may be that he just went quiet for a while as opposed to you banning him - I think this is what happened. Whatever you decide to do he is one to watch out for. Nigel

Nigel, I didn’t read this whisper before, sorry. That is inacceptable. Would we all please keep an eye on Grim and if he insults someone again (whisper or not), please let me know. If he starts that again, he is gone. Would that be okay for you all?

That’ Ok by me I’ll keep my eye out for him.

I’ll keep my eyes open.

FYI: Deleted a discussion by c4stokes after made it a sunk one. Topic: Remembering our soldiers. He let it rather being deleted than sunk, which was ok for me. I made it sunk, as I don’t want to argue about politics concerning wars here at Snuffhouse.org.

I agree with that a 100%, I personally believe there should be banned list of OT threads - not very long - but just the ones that have casued problems in the past; politics, religion and anything with overtones of pornography/near the knuckle sexual stuff.

Nigel, No problems here, I had the red mist with Lazarus talking about religion and shouted at him. I got a friendly warning from Alex. I was out of order. There is no problems between us now. I think we have all been there at sometime. I think Grim had a bad day too, but we’ll watch out for him.

thanks guys

I think it’s kind of funny and I’m certainly not perfect or an angel! It’s one thing to make a mistake and admit it. It’s something else to piss off a bunch of people and say till the end that everyone else is wrong, and your right!

I was wondering the same thing… It’s already sinking on it’s own.

I would guess that as long as it’s nothing offensive, leave it be.

I agree doing no harm and it will sink in a day or so.

I can’t believe I just brought this thread back to the top! Sorry! I was whispering to Tom about a trade, didn’t even think about it! Maybe we should close it.

Hi Mark, I don’t think you did bring it back. If you whisper, it only comes up for your eyes. Just like it does on any other thread.

OH! Didn’t know that. It’s back on top as far as what I can see. Thanks!

Yes, it will be now because we both spoke aloud.

Just want to let you know I am still around. I am in Switzerland right now, trying to find some Al-Capone Vanilla. And studying for one week.

Hi Alex, I emailed you when the web-site went down. It was down for just 2 hours. For your information.

Thanks. I am still preparing the move to another host.

Good luck in your studying and hope you find that Al Capone, you could well find William Tell!

I read that, I don’t know it is Z_2K and he’s been posting since 27th March. It could just be an American thing. I would leave it and email Alex, give him the thread “Discover Card” and see what he thinks.

Yes see what Mark think when he sees this thread opened again. Although we in the UK and America speak the same language, some things do get misunderstood. For now lets monitor that thread.

Well cstokes4 is American, and he is confused too, lol. I think it’s nothing.

Maybe he’s drunken? No problem here so far.

Just got home… Makes no sense to me!

He’s had too much snuff lol! Anyway it shows we are keeping watch.

Ive not read many of his posts, does he actually mention snuff anywhere? The one about the discover card seems like out and out spam.

@ Nigal not sure He’s just made a comment after me on “What your gonna drink tonight” His comment ‘Tommyknocker Pick Axe!’ Think Alex is correct, he’s bombed out his mind.

I agree.

Martin, As other members requested, then I think you did the right thing.

" I hope I don’t get Snuffboxed for this" LOL!

Well done.

yeah, well done. Theres being cautious and theres just not doing anything - sometimes you just have to make a decision. I must admit I’m starting to get slightly annoyed with the growth of the OT threads. Not against them per se, but they just seem to clutter the place up - could we have an OT section, I don’t know how practical that is? Also, now we’ve settled down and got used to this role (even if that means NOT doing anything) maybe we could agree to a list of definites that we can feel comfortable about acting on immediately? Can I suggest: Anything racist, pornographic, hate based Religous/political threads that get abusive Threatening, abusive or foul language Blatant spam or advertising, unless snuff related and supported by Alex. These are the things I would not hesitate to close down, I guess we all feel the same about those topics anyway?

I agree that everything above should be deleted ASAP. Anything less blatant we could confer with each other on this thread.

We have an off topic category now. You can block this category if you wish to NOT see the discussions in it at the frontpage.

How do you do that?

Snuffster: I was thinking about doing the same thing, blocking the OT’s, but I think as mods we really need to keep an eye on them.

You’re right Mark, best to keep them in view I guess.

Is Lazarus still a mod?

I mention this mainly because I’m about to go to bed, in case it comes up… I just deleted two comment from "The collection builds fast… " thread. Tom (I think) made a comment about anti nazi’s being worse than the nazi’s or something like that. Cstokes commented that that was a stupid comment, etc. I figured I’d nip it in the bud.

Lazarus is no mod anymore. Had no time. You can block the category under “Categories”.

Thanks, however as Mark points out might be best to leave everything on view as a mod.

Just a thought Alex, could we have a ‘trade’ sticky for people to do their swapping and trading? or a category?

We already have a category: Acquire Snuff You’re welcome

Indeed…

I would say that the context is very important with throw away or one line comments. My personal view is that this would be allowed unless he started to rant about killing. Given the widespread feeling towards politicians at this point in world history people are making their feelings felt. However given that this is a site about snuff and these OT’s can turn nasty very quickly, I support your actions; someone like Grim (who I personally think is a banning waiting to happen the moment someone says something he doesn’t like) could easily latch on and turn it into something completely wrong. On balance: good call.

I’ve just gone through the whole thread and made my own comments on the debate. I also made a public comment to Pieter as he has re-quoted himself. I can see this being closed in the near future!

I’ve been lurking on the side, I think it was handled well and Pieter wasn’t offended. snuffster, you rounded it off well.

Thanks John, good job all round then.

I think we should keep an eye on the OT- RIP Michael Jackson thread.

I was thinking the same thing.

I was never a fan. But that last comment sucks, as he wasn’t found guilty. Mark it’s 01:43 BST over here and I’m off to bed, you could maybe monitor the thread for a few hours more.

We are all thinking the same thing, Ive just put a gently worded warning on there. I’ll give it a few more minutes but Ill close it at the first sign of argument - this is one that could go nasty very quickly.

Sorry, I get up to start work in about 6 hours. I got about 10 more minutes.

Me too, 0150 in the UK. Ill give it til 0200 or so.

Nigel, I think you are a natural mod. Goodnight from Yorkshire, way past my bedtime.

Goodnight!

Im off to bed. I will be up early so will check on this in a few hours - I would be surprised if its staid peaceful!

I’ll try to keep awake for a little time, I’m retired and don’t need to be up early.

Ill probably be pottering about for another 15 or so.

now Im gone, goodnight

Looks like self-moderation worked? Topic is back to normal and will probably become inactive soon. Tahnks for keeping your eyes open!

Yes, I hovered for a while but it seemed to pass its danger point - and I get to keep my record of zero interventions!

Gone quiet for the last 3 hours.

Hi Martin, we all can’t be here all the time. Anyway I’m sure you did the right thing with Snuffgnugen.

I made it a sink. You did all right.

hydrahead tried to register again: “cause problems and troll”

He may have a short memory and can’t remember if he has joined before, or not. Lol!

A genuine honest to goodness oddball, that one. I think his particular kick is to be forgiven and do it again after things have settled.

BTW, Martin, I think the warning was correct. I had posted a couple of lines earlier saying stay off the thread if people didn’t like it. We have to remember that some people here firmly cling to the belief that they should be able to say anything they want, when they want. They can’t and as we have been made mods we do have to step in sometimes. I think we have a great balance at the moment - I have no worries that any mod wants to throw his weight around for the sake of it.

Well I’m really sorry to hear this Martin. When your health gets back to normal, then I’m sure if you restart the snuff again in moderation and then come back. Wishing you a fast return. John

Martin, no problem. I’ll keep you around as a moderator and thanks for the good work! I wish you all the best for your health. In 20 years from now, people wonder why kicking your own ass is called Snuffboxing all around the world.

Martin Go slowly on this, even if giving up snuff (short or long term) is the thing, you are still a good mod and a valued part of the community. There is nothing to say that you actually need to be snuffing all day every day to participate here! I know that we will all respect your wishes but unless you desperately want to, there is no real need to leave. Don’t forget that the famous 18th Century snuffer Beau Brummell only ever took the odd pinch. He was much more interested in snuff boxes and the art in general than shovelling pounds of the stuff up his nose everyday! Nigel

Anybody knows if Nigel is using another email-address than the Yahoo one? He asked me to help him with his account after the crash, but didn’t respond to my emails.

Hi Alex, He emailed me about a month ago with the > nigelmccarren@yahoo.co.uk < so I could help him post his pictures on this website and he got my replies. Sorry that is the only address I know of. I wonder did you use your .aero address? Because just after this site came back after the crash, I tried to email you via this website and got a message that “there is a delay and your email will be delivered later” then after a day it bounced as not delivered. Anyway I’ll try mailing him from here, funny things happen with email from time to time.

Sorry Alex, I got it bouced:>>>>> 217.12.11.64 failed after I sent the message. Remote host said: 554 delivery error: dd Sorry your message to nigelmccarren@yahoo.co.uk cannot be delivered. This account has been disabled or discontinued [#102]. - mta106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com<<<<<

The @alex.aero was delayed or the @snuffhouse.org? I got this one xxx and mailed him from both e-mail accounts. Maybe he is on vacation.

Looks like the address is discontinued. You could try Roderick of Toque, or Tim of SnuffStore UK. They should have a present address.

Hey Guys, finally back - to add to matters my own email was obviously being weird - it is still current and I have no idea what happened to it! Thanks Alex, nice to be back

Nice to have you back Nigel… Check, Send an email to yourself. I think you do have problems there.

Great to have you back! Let the future of Snuffhouse begin.

How many other folks did we loose in the great crash of 09? I noticed it after it had happened as I was distracted with family at the time, I gather we were moving to another server? All very mysterious to someone who can just about use email!

They more or less all came back. I wrote them an email and asked them to re-register what the did without a hassle. The server was brought to a more modern server center, but the guys broke the hardware. My ultra-professional host had only a backup two weeks old. Snuffhouse.org will move to another host in the near future.

All beyond my understanding Alex! Just glad to be back. I had my brother down (who lurks) and I could’nt get in, it was a bit strange being without the site!

Did you guys see Raj’s last comment on “Which Snuffs are easy on the sinuses (no menthol)?” He seems a little angry and anti Toque.

I would like you to keep an eye on it. He might have just overreacted for a moment, but it is still a stupid comment. As long as he doesn’t flame, I have no problem if he leaves it like that (and just that one comment).

I have just deleted his post where he was swearing - I just came across it and thought it unnaceptable. Alex, hope you are ok with that; I deleted it before I read this section and saw that you were not overly concerned with it. Still, my first deletion since I became a mod; I was hoping to never have to do it.

That’s fine.

I just deleted raj’s last comment, an insult to cstockes. I’m on my iPhone right now if anyone can keep an eye out for me!

I’m going out shortly but will be around later this afternoon until about 2000hrs BST. raj’s doesn’t post often, but when he does! I’ll keep an eye out for him later.

Cool, this phone is slow and hard for me to use. I won’t be home in front of me “real” computer til about 9:30.

Raj is the new one to watch I think, I suspect only a matter of time before he goes too far.

Im off for a weeks holiday from Saturday so one less mod around for a while, hope it stays quiet, Nigel

Have a good holiday Nigel… Seems we all missed SnifferSnuffer (new member) creating a bit on the introduce yourself thread. Anyway after a members comments he did edit it. But we’ll have to watch him.

Thanks John, down to Cornwall, so might vicit the Helston shop which has a pretty good selection. I will watch out for sniffer-snuiffer in future though.

Have fun, Nigel!

I will be in Indonesia at the end of September. For about 2 weeks. During this time I will not be able to be online every day, but I’ll do my best. This means I will give you moderators the permission to approve aplicants. I’ll do that in advance, so you can train a little. It’s really easy.

Hi Alex enjoy your trip. I’ll do my best as I’m sure the other moderators will to keep this forum clean while your away.

Enjoy Alex, I hope you have better weather than the trip Ive just been on!

Have fun Alex, i’m here if you need me.

Alex, whats the process for allowing membership?

You’ll see a note at the top of the forum which leads you to the applicants. There they tell you why they want to enter. If it’s spam, I decline. If it seems to be no spam, I approve them.

OK Alex, thanks. Have a great vacation…

Well, it’s still 2 weeks ahead.

You are now able to approve applicants. Wohoo! Everybody who is not a spammer nor crazy is welcome. No problem if someone is searching for tobacco information in general or something else. Please let me know here, if you declined an applicant. Thanks.

there’s one awaiting approval but I’m on my phone can’t really see it to well

Think the main thing is a approve, but and keep track. And decline the obvious spammers. I’m tracking an Alex type right now, lol!

I’m back home now… I couldn’t read the screen too well on my iphone between the glare, the small size and not knowing what I was looking at. If some total nut job gets on, all we can do is delete his comments, right?

Mark, I know how you struggle outdoors. We have been having super weather over here and I find it hard to see the screen while outdoors on my laptop. Yes keep track of new members and delete any crap that should not be on here. Remember Alex will have the final say when he does have the time to check or doings.

This morning I approved a Michael Brummer, aka Red Star he was a member under a different name for a short time a month or so ago. He asked Alex to close his account. He will be OK ermtony told me he got upset with what one of the Americans said to him. A complete misunderstanding due to English and his German.

Just approved “Munichsnuff” He seemed very sincere, 20 years snuffing, etc.

Thanks guys, well done!

Trying our best Alex. Just approved The Pelvin.

And ValerianaAtropa

What appears on the screen - and where - when someone is waiting to join? I’ve not seen anyone yet, although I’ve not been on much the last week due to work.

I’ve approved a few. A link appears on the top of the main page saying there’s a application waiting approval.

ok, thanks

Just thought I better post this, not that there would be any problems if he chose to return to this forum. Snuffbox has another user-name, it’s Dogman.

Thanks. Just jog my memory, was he barred or did he leave of his own accord?

Hi Nigel, No not barred he could not get his own way as a moderator so asked Alex to deactivate his account.

If I remember correctly, he would be able to come back if he wished, just not as a moderator!

Are you getting any problems with the site/net? I keep loosing it?

Not me.

Must be my ancient PC

Funny, I totally anticipated it and I’m surprised it took this long!

I don’t know really… As long as stays civil then it’s interesting and shouldn’t be a problem. Personally I would never start such a thread on a snuff forum.

True, I only meant to say that I personally wouldn’t. Just my opinion! I think there is not even a slight chance that things won’t get nasty. But then again I don’t even say negative things about snuffs i don’t like! Just me, I guess…

I gotta leave and walk a dog, PLAY NICE!!! : )

Thanks mate, must sleep bye for now.

Ive sunk the emphysema thread as several people asked for it. Of course Alex, you may reverse that, but I would be interested to see if things calm down now.

Hi Snuffster! Alex commented on the thread, so he must have read it and left it alone. Also, you should probably close it instead of just sinking it.

Quite prepared to stand up to it if I made a mistake - and if I did apologies. I admit I acted from the various requests on there. I will see if I can re-open then

Done Sorry If I acted too quickly. I will leave this particular thread alone and not get involved.

My personal opinion is that if the conversation gets nasty or has personal attacks, it should be closed. It seemed to me that the discussion was interesting and well balanced. It also seems like there were more pro than con comments. If you read the comments by me above you’ll see I personally wouldn’t start a similar thread. I think being a moderator isn’t about my personal opinion though. Anyway, Alex has the final say! Cheers! Mark

Of course. In any case - for all of us - this is about learning as we go on and I for one have no problem re-visiting a decision if it seems unwise to the group. My only personal motivation in being a mod is to try to keep the site a great place to be, and I certainly don’t have any monopoly on unerringly right decisions - so happy to re-open having read your comments and looked more closely at the thread. And of course Alex was happy with it, I didn’t read his comments thoroughly enough.

Lets not let this cause any division between us. I’m annoyed with myself for acting too quickly on a thread I’d not fully read - my excuse is I was just in from work and should have chilled out a bit before logging on! Won’t happen again. And , yes, Alex is the boss but when he’s not around we are his deputies so a comment from anyone of you will be taken seriously by me. Cheers guys Nigel

So Nigel, when are you gonna get an icon?

Ah, you know I am such an IT dummy I woudn’t even know how to. I did try to post a black dog on there from Googl;e images but got bored in the attempt…

send me a link to a pic (as small as possible) you like and i’ll post it on one of my sites and give you the link. I “made” Roderick"s, Mr. snuff"s and one other, I forget who.

thanks, but you would even have to tell me how to send a link. All I can do really is the most basic emails and specialist systems at work that dont involve any of this kind of stuff. I did say I was a dummy!

Guys, there is a new member waiting, Kruise. His reasons to join are simply ‘find family’. I’ve emailed him for some more detail. Can he be kept there until I get a response please

Nigel that’s good thinking, I almost declined him, A spammer I bet.

I saw him and didn’t approve him as well. Waiting for a response is a good idea I think.

Did you guys see the newest one? “For free samples and coupons” I have NO idea what to make of that!

Name “Tereasa” Just Declined Her? It? Defiantly a spammer.

No argument from me! I can’t believe people aren’t smart enough to at least make up something good!

Best wishes Martin.

Ya, Best wishes and I do hope your health improves.

I’ve declined Kruise - gave him two days to make some sense and nothing back so I’m afraid in my book ‘find family’ just sounds too much like Hydrahead or someone. Best wishes Martin.

That should be OK, you would expect an email returned if it was a snuffer.

I’m definitely not approving that fletchchristian, what do you guys think?

Just email’d fletchristian for more detail before approving.

I just approved Kiestraak with a gmail account. Please keep a close eye on him/her as the reason to join was “I love Snuff” It could be Hydrahead! as it was his reason for wanting to come back. I thought it best to give benefit of doubt. Not had email back from flechchristian as yet.

Still no reply to my email to fletchristian. If no word by tomorrow mid morning I’ll turn him down. if no objections.

Sounds right to me.

Guys Hope this is ok by you, I just logged on after a manic period at work and saw the FletcherChristian thing, given his ridiculous reason for joining as ‘yes’ I declined him as I thought he was an obvious spammer. Please accept my apologies for not checking here first - clearly if he gets back and makes sense that decision can be revisited. Just so we don’t step on each others toes ( as I was worried I have just done!) can I suggest the following, subject to Alex’s agreement of course: if a prospective member does not make sense we just decline. The membership application asks a very simple ‘why do you want to join’ type question; if the reply is just something like ‘yes’ or some other thing that doesn’t mean anything then I think we either have a spammer, loony or computer. Any genuine snuffer would happily give a sensible reply. I will of course follow the feelings of the group. Very best wishes Nigel

I kind of like snuffhead’s idea of emailing them and giving them a chance to say something intelligent.

Well I will go with that if its the consensus; my take is that propsective members should give us a serious response in the first place without us having to email etc.

Nigel, you done; it but no problems, as I was about to cut him off in a few hours anyway. But can I say this:- When you see the banner that a new member requests to join, then hit the discussions button, then to this Moderators thread. to see if we have any hunches, and other information.

Point taken, apologies.

No apologies needed Nigel. But I think this way will work better. My regards, John

Thanks mate.

And moving swiftly on…veritablefeast is waiting to join, expressing interest in what Stitch is doing, seems reasonable so I will approve.

Alex the What’s in your nose #3 was getting slow so I closed it and created What’s in your nose #4. Will you make that a sticky. Hope you don’t mind.

New Applicant ‘oldpunker’ I’m wondering if there was a reason it didn’t stick. Think I’ll leave this to Alex to decide.

Back after a week away; any news?

Been quiet here Nigel, as it should be

Excellent

The one waiting states she wants to be a member to ‘get great deals on garrett snuff’, sound a little weird to me. My inclination is to bin her - any thoughts? After consideration I’m not keen on emailng people or chasing them up too much - if they can’t give a sensible response to the simple question asked on the application screen Im not sure we want em? Tell me if Im being too hard!

I wonder if we should have a sticky on the top of the screen with something ‘Read this if you want to join’ as the heading. It could maybe give a little bit of guidance to people about to apply; like don’t put nonsensical stuff on the form as we will just assume you are spammers? I nearly did this a few minutes ago but its rightly down to Alex of he wants that sort of thing. Hey Alex, how was you holiday?

I saw that one too and passed it by. I figure we can approve the “good” ones and the others can wait for Alex.

You may have a point there. In any case, I don’t know if Alex intends to keep us on in this role; my impression was that it was only to cover his vacation?

I think that was originally the plan. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, imo.

Juss approved two reasonable ones. If no one has any issues I will dump the one after ‘great deals on snuff’ later today.

Hi, I too think this one is dodgy too best leave it for Alex. Snufster you do have a point about emailing them as you could get the spam. I use a throw away address, but it means wasting one.

Ill get rid of this one and take the chance that Alex would agree; Alex - ‘To get great deals on snuff’ sounds spammy enough for me, hope thats ok

Good idea to leave the ‘mysterious’ ones to me. I think you are all doing a great job and would like to keep your roles like that. My trip was great and I am already looking forward to the next trip to Jakarta.

Hi guys. I’ll be on "holiday’ this weekend. I’ll probably check in occasionally on my Iphone to keep the unread threads from building up, but that’s about it. This is my once a year weekend getaway in Sebastian, Fl. (about 20 minutes from where nic rush Tom lives) If your interested, the place I go every year is www.hirams.com. It’s about a 2 1/2 hour drive from where i live. I hope to someday have a “snuff meetup” there! Unfortunately Tom is out of town this weekend, i would have liked to have met him. Take care and have a nice weekend! Mark

Hi Mark have a good holiday. Your link to your place didn’t work by the way. I found you had added a period after the com so here it is for others www.hirams.com It looks so nice and a change from damp cold Hull UK, as it is today.

Thanks snuffhead, I didn’t actually make a link as i don’t know how!

Thanks MM. I think I already told you guys this but… I spent a month in England in December once… Actually it was only 4 days, it just seemed like a month!! JUST KIDDING! It was very actually enjoyable spending time in the local pub, everyone treated me so well, asking me questions, etc. I was quite the novelty I guess. (I was in Nottigham.) The girl that I went to visit broke up with me the second day of what was supposed to be a month long visit. Besides that tho…!! Between changing money to pounds, then back to dollars and a new last minute return ticket, the 4 days cost me about $5000.00. That was almost 20 years ago and I still cringe when I hear a female British accent! As far as Sebastian goes, it’s a very small town, basically a fishing village. Like I always tell people, there’s only two things to do in Sebastian, fish and drink… And I don’t fish!!!

Lol, I suppose its hard to get over memories like that! You won’t find many Americans in Nottingham thats for sure. Have a great trip in any case!

Another odd one… reason “freebie” I left it alone.

Leave that one for Alex

Looks like someone either approved or denied it.

Denied it.

Hi Alex. There’s a couple threads that could be stickly-ed or un sticky-ed.

Just to codify our working practices here: Non contentious, ordinary folks who want to join because they give sensible reasons: the mod dealing agrees. Anything weird, spammy or whatever is left to Alex. If I get one that seems perfectly decent is everybody happy that I just go along and accept without further ado?

I hope that’s the plan, I’ve approved dozens already that seemed normal.

ok cool

That’s fine, yes.

@miamimark: Could you give me some hints?

Oh, Sorry Alex! “What’s in your mailbox” should be un sticky-ed and “what’s in your mailbox 2” should be sticky-ed.

Thanks, done.

Thanks! That thread was getting too slow! It’s been suggested we “sticky” the snuff pictures thread as well. I personally like the idea.

This would make too much stickies, I think. Lets see how popular it gets.

Just approved the ‘Huckster’ reason - to learn more about snuff and be part of this great community.

theres another ‘to receive great offers on camel snuff’ we’ve had a few like that so am just declining

Chef Daniel - loved snuff for 35 years - approved.

Could I suggest that OT Political and religious threads be banned, as opposed to just monitored? My view is that they add nothing whilst always having the potential to explode. The current ‘Overview of America’ has not exploded but is lighlty smouldering. I know the management spirit has been one of tolerance unless problems but on these two issues I wonder whether a simple and outright ban would save bad feelings and the need for moderation in the long run. Obviously, a policy statment like this should come from Alex, but more than happy to assist with draughting something Alex if you don’t have time and there is agreement. If not an outright ban I would still issue some kind of clear policy direction. Any thoughts?

I understand your point completely but personally I could go either way. I’ve learned a lot from this forum besides about snuff. To have access to peoples opinions from all over the world is fascinating to me. Anyway, whatever Alex decides is fine with me, of course! : )

I have to agree with Snuffster, when I so the Overview America thread. Then my thoughts where; It’s something waiting to happen. Apart from monitoring it, I’m keeping well clear.

Closed it.

My point in terms of snuffhouse would be don’t get the concept of free speech mixed up with the website. If we were to permanently ban religious/political threads we would just be saying this is not the place for it rather than trying to supress folks right’s. If you think about it we do that plenty of times in our private lives anyway - there are occasions when you just want to get away from the grit of life. Religion and Politics always cause problems in the end and are best left in their proper places - and I say this as a practising Roman Catholic. I just think we are better without those topics.

Don’t knock yourself on this, its a good thing to want to give people the chance and be concerned, and its not your failing. But really, this rule should apply all the time whether your having a meal with your family or posting here - religion and politics just end in arguments that can’t be solved. We’ve staid clear of these topics in my family for years as we are all feisty buggers and its just best left alone!

I noticed his sarcastic remark. Best to ignore it, anyway he can go to another forum for politics and religion and talk snuff on here.

I don’t think we should get involved in any long arguments with members about this - it will turn into the usual circular tirade. I suggest a simple statement from Alex that we don’t have religious or political threads. I would also like some robust monitoring at religious festival times - like being able to say ‘Happy Christmas or Eid’ or whatever without a load of anti stuff coming back. Might sound like Im going over the top but a couple of Xmas’s ago a simple ‘happy xmas’ from someone turned into quite a nasty thread. Theses suggestions are purely because I love this site and want it to stay as it is, we are getting loads of new members some of whom will stay for 5 minutes and not really care what they say. Please, please rest assured I’m not trying to take over these are just ‘in my humble opinion’ suggestions. Nigel

Thanks Martin. I think whatever happens we have an excellent group of moderators to deal with any issues. I am not suggesting that there is any crisis here either, just planning ahead a little.

Any views on the ‘Economy’ thread? Complaints on the last post by Satyr about the ‘sensorship’. I started to write something then thought better about it and didn’t. I really think its time for some kind of policy on this kind of stuff. This is a site about snuff and it seems that it is starting to get a bit highjacked and there are maybe a couple of members we could do without.

Im going very cautiously on this pending Alex’s views, but if it starts getting out of hand it should go the same way as the political thread about the US.

Ive just closed ‘Glee’. Rambling political thread.

I think it had folded up anyway. Pieter put the finishing touches to it. Must admit I don’t know what they where on about either.

I’m not sure they did…

we have to remember that this is a site dedicated to snuff and snuff users. It’s natural that people will want to pass opinions backwards and forwards in OT posts, but it just seems that at the moment there appears to be alot of political posts. Repeating myself, that this is about snuff first and foremost, I think we need to just be aware of where our focus is. I think Alex may be away at the moment so we need to look after the shop. Best wishes buddy Nigel

Still here checking by at least once a day. Looks like you don’t really need me.

Hi Alex We always need you but if you are happy with our decisions and how we run the place when you are away thats great. I’m more than happy with my role and think we have an excellent level headed team here. By the way, BigBlue asked why I closed the discussion and I just explained that this is a snuff site and we have to close off long political OT’s as they are best suited elsewhere on the net. Nigel

Sounds great, Nigel.

I think that the best thing (for me) is to bring my concerns to this thread so Alex can “check in” without reading every single thread every day. I personally don’t like closing threads that are marginal or subject to opinion. Having said that i will always back up decisions made by the other mods. I mostly look out for obvious trolls and such. i do wish we could cancel or suspend accounts in that type of situation. The last time we had a obvious troll I couldn’t keep up with him, deleting his comments, and I had to leave while it was still going on. Oh well, it happens so rarely i guess it’s not really an issue.

Just addmitted henny His reason:- “I tried to stop smoking by using snuff and bought £100 of the stuff and i could not get on with it so i want to sell it and thought i could possibly sell it through this forum. Thanks Gary” Don’t think he’ll be around long!

Yea, I passed that one by! Seems too “commercial” for me. No interest in snuff, just trying to make a buck On second thought, as long as one of our members benefits, it’s all good!

Quote Mark “as long as one of our members benefits, it’s all good!” That’s what I thought.

Anyone else noticing VERY VERY slow page reloads? It doesn’t happen all the time but sometimes it takes forever, some times not. It’s been going on for days but I’m not sure that it’s not my computer or connection.

Yes to the slow pages, I was about to ask the same question. Sometimes they don’t open and I have to leave the site and come back which seems to cure it. With regards closing threads - I thought long and hard before closing ‘Glee’ but I could just see it sparking off, it’s almost as though it was posted for that reason. In actual fact my wife was looking over my shoulder at the time and asked who the hell I thought I was telling people what they can discuss!! I suppose I come back, whenever I think about it, to the fact that this is a snuff website not a political one. If other mods disagreed I would readily re-visit. But, decision making can be tough and Im happy to be gaining experience in this role with such a good team.

Page loads faster now?

Right now they’re loading fast again. It was always intermittent though…

Please let me know how it feels the next two days or so. I deactivated an extension so it might run faster from now on.

So far a great improvement Alex.

50% quicker for me

In fact its the quickest its ever been

Same here… I should have mentioned this days ago!

With regards Mark’s comment about being able to suspend an acccount; I fully agree. I think the problem lies in the fact that we would then have admin status - which is probably not what Alex wants as that really is the prerogative of the owner. From what I know it’s a problem that is next to or even impossible to solve.

Guys - I consider this as a serious issue - Onefortheroad is offering tiger bone snuff spoons that he has obtained from china to go with his latest snuff box. There are mixed comments on there and my instinct was to close the thread without further ado. I would like this thread closed as to be perfectly honest it makes me sick to my stomach. I have however, refrained from doing so until I have some feedback from you gents. I am not a rabid animal rights crusader but I really think this seriously demeans our site. Can I have your views please?

Done. The thing that saddens me are remarks like ‘I don’t care if a Tiger was hurt or not’ Disgusting. Alex, I closed the thread as my quick bit of Google research indicates that the buying and selling of any Tiger parts is illegal in Chinese and International law and as such we could not carry a thread with an offer of tiger bone snuff-spoons on this website. I suggested that if he apply to you should he wish to contest that. I would ask, also, that you read the thread.

Thanks for closing. I will make up my mind about yiu being able to close accounts.

Ok. I feel uneasy about asking for that and in my view it would be for one scenario only - a full scale attack on the site by someone posting porn etc and ONLY if we couldn’t raise you on the phone. I am just as happy not to be given it; just dread the loony attack.

Read through that thread this morning. Didn’t see it first hand. Pleased that it’s closed and sinking.

Just been thinking; How about any member wanting to sell on SnuffHouse needs permission say, from Alex first. Dealers in the left sidebar accepted. Then again it adds to his workload. By the way henny, who wanted to sell his £100 snuff collection 2 days ago has not visited so far.

I keep going back and forth on the issue of people selling stuff on SH. On one hand, the sponsors pay to be listed on this site and I think I would be miffed if someone was undercutting my prices selling “second hand” snuff regularly. On the other hand, why not! If a member wants to buy snuff from someone that doesn’t want it, so be it! Personally I would give away or trade, but that’s me. I guess the difference would be if someone was selling snuff or snuff related products for a profit. I remember when Tom (bakdoor) was shamelessly promoting his shop. Now he has a banner and I think that’s the appropriate way to go.

Occasional advertising is fine. If it is getting too much, I will ask for a banner fee.

I did find it massively weird and was also surprised ( and a little dissapointed ) that Patrick - who openly stated in not so many words that he had no idea where the stuff came from - seemed to think it was fine. It was strange that because it was supposed to be 30 years old that it was supposed to be ok, but even that was taking his word from someone he openly admited he could not have any dialogue with. I guess he’s gone to some expense and is hiding from the facts - it’s the only explanation I can think of. I was pretty disgusted that the member ‘snuffy’ stated he couldn’t care less if a tiger was hurt or not. I think its a shameful business and I’m interested to see if NicotineRush stock them. For the record I’ve emailed him and asked him not too; for what ever good that will do when money is involved. I think that selling stuff on the site raises a larger issue. The membership has grown greatly, mostly it seems via the US and I would guess mostly the younger end are waking up to snuff and the site. A lot of those are just passing through and are from the larger internet world of not many rules, cussin and swearing and the rest. In essence we are looking at demograohic change and it may be that we need in the near future - if not now - some clearer guidelines on what members can and can not do. In the last few weeks we’ve had rambling political threads closed down, by Alex and myself, this Tiger bone business and now people asking to join to offload snuff they don’t want. Alex, this is your site and what you say goes, period. But it might be helpful - especially when you are away - if you could put a few policy points down in print so your moderators can make the same decisions you would make. I’m not suggesting a mods guidebook because I trust this team to do a good job, just your thoughts on whats ok and what isn’t at this time.

FNG? what does that mean?

Googled FNG = Fu****g New Guy is one meaning. It never came up on my window so someone’s accepted him, or chucked him out.

Alex, thanks for the guide. Having read that and given we now have a couple of ways of contacting you I don’t feel we need any more powers than we already have. As the owner the admin capacity should rightly rest with you alone. Unless you are going to be away from IT for long periods at a time I say we leave it at that.

More charm from BigBlue, yet another individual that can’t debate anything without cursing and swearing. I have asked Alex to consider banning him - until such time as that decision is made could you keep a watch ''And if in good conscience you can still say that The Glee thread was closed for good reason. Yeah folks I haven’t posted since that day in my own silent protest. But this is just too rich. I guess this has become the place where if the mods have vested interest in keeping a thread open than we keep it open forever, even if it is a shit fuck thread… ‘’ There seems to be no purpose in keeping this open, so in line with the newly published directions I am closing it.

I read BigBlues comments, and I too think he’s pushing it.

Thanks for your whisper John, I wasn’t aware. Sorry, can you clarify ‘test, sign out etc’ at the end of your message?

I just edited that whisper. Try to explain better. If you sign out (top right-hand corner) If you then close your browser and then go back to this forum, click discussions without signing in. This and Alex’s new thread aren’t visible.

Got ya now John. My main issue with BigBlue - in common with I think quite a few members now is that its straight to effing and blinding at the merest hint of disagreement. I am no angel and have sworn a couple of times on the site but for some its seems the only way of debate,

What was it he did to you moses?

Not a nice guy, hopefully Alex will heed my request.

Let’s keep an eye on bigblue. Please let me know if he does ‘it’ again.

I don’t want to make an unneccessarily big deal about this but we shouldn’t allow the belief to grow up that its ok to abuse the mods for doing their jobs. Im pretty tired of the way that people immediately become foul mouthed at the least provocation. If you are not going to ban him on this occasion then, with respect, I would caution that he is not allowed a second ‘offence’.

I whispered him to keep it down and let us do our jobs.

Hi All, I’m ready for my sleep. Please watch ibild on his ‘OT’ new thread.

Alex, Ibilds new thread is clearly aimed at me and is along the lines of the other recent complaints against moderation. I have either got the balance wrong in my own actions or you need to remove a couple of people from the forum, but there seems to be a growing groundswell against us/me. If it is me, then I unhesitatingly offer to step down as a mod.

I am waiting for an answer from bigblue1 and ibild. If they are not able to accept my latest statement in the OT discussion, I help them leave. Is that ok for everybody?

OK with me Alex.

I trust your judgement, any decision you make is fine by me.

Even without a sink. Let’s hope that’s it for this year.

I think their animosity is aimed mostly at me. Maybe I have been too rigid in what I see as right and wrong or unacceptable. I haven’t meant to be over the top and I have always had what I considered to be the interests of the site at heart. But If I have got the balance wrong I truly apologise and if my continued presence as a mod is not right for the site I will revert, without any ill feeling, to non moderator status. What I don’t want is a damging situation because of me.

Martin beat me, I was just gonna say we’re not going to Snuffbox you Nigel, chin up, your a big chap.

I was gonna say the same thing!!

Snuffster, I won’t let you go so easy.

Thanks guys, God bless

Can someone have a look at ‘real mans snuff’’ and watch the link. According to Alex’s rules its seems like it should be a close, but Iwouldrather its a consensus if it is.

Nigel I did see the thread, I can’t go to the link at this time because I’m uploading a video and don’t want to crash. I’ll have a look when I can. Suppose we better watch out for comments that may come later!

Gone to that link on “real mans snuff”, At time of posting this. That post is 7 hours old and so far not one comment. I think it’s OK, it’s a daft video I would just give a 3 second view, not my humour. But we better watch out for any comments if any do appear!

The video seems too silly to bother with to me.

It doesn’t bother me as it stands, and I think we can leave alone unless it turns into some rabid druggy thing, just thought I’d check in with you.

It’s making fun of drugs. No problem.

Agreed.

Just declined Flyhy, Reason wanting to join? To Post Ads!

Honest, LOL! wonder what adverts?

Ive put a post on there myself, please read. I think we should close this in the near future. At this moment in time its not too bad but if it starts getting into descriptions of how to prepare drugs it has to end, I would suggest by Alex??

jco approved =- loves snuff and wants to consult the experts!!

I made it a sink.

Good move, thanks Alex

This question is being asked on another thread: Why is the “Snuff trades, offers, and requests” thread not a sticky? Just wanted to let you know, Alex…

Too much stickies, I guess.

No, sorry.

Just approved Ukicemom, a sensible paragraph about wanting to learn more about snuff, probably the most lucid that I’ve had to date.

me signing out at 0300, all quiet.

Approved asnyder - ‘I like snuff’.

Approved Ufizwit - ‘taken snuff for 40 years’

OT and so far okay, I guess.

Yea, I passed them by too… they’re probably OK but I’ll let Alex or someone else get them.

Approved them.

site very slow again

Yes, unbearably slow…

Seems to have got worse now.

I’ll take care of it.

We are back to normal. The database server was overloaded.

Im in and out at the moment, work, flu, family, however things seems quiet enough at the moment.

Everything is fine here.

Hi Alex, we have Kitchen boy wanting to join us with just a ‘Yes’ I’ll leave it to you to decide!

Declined. Thanks.

hrolf - ‘info’ Im not approving - your decision Alex. For future do you want us to continue passing applicants like this to you or would you prefer we just make the decision?

I passed that one by as well. Perhaps you could unsticky “what’s in your nose #4” and sticky #5, Alex?

I like how you deal with new applicants and would like to keep it up to you to approve them. I can step in if you are not sure wether to decline them or not. Made #5 sticky.

My take on this is, If an applicant can only offer one word to the question - Why do you wish to join this forum, then he’s not going to provide much input, or probably just mess around.

Thanks Alex, thats makes sense - any real weird ones to you. But I think for the most time - like snuffhead says - these one word applicants can be just declined. A genuine snuffer with interest would have lurked beforehand and would want to get in so would give more than ‘yes’ or any of the other one liners we’ve had. Well - it’s been a standard year at Snuffhouse! The arguments, the trolls and the little temper flare ups; but far, far more than that: a great site where I meet people I am glad to call my friends. So to Alex - thanks for a great site, and the rest of you; surely the nicest and most gentlemanly bunch of mods on any site, anywhere; it’s been a real pleasure. Here’s to all the best to you and your families this Christmas - and I hope you won’t object if this old Catholic snuffer says ‘Christ’‘s Love to you all’ Nigel

@ Alex, and all mods. I wish you all a very merry Christmas, and all you wish for your self for the coming New Year, John

joylyn46 16 hours ago floridaladylynn@yahoo.com i am a user of snuff and would like great deals. This one? As No one else as done anything I’m declining her hoping I made the right decision.

Great deals and free lids. I have no idea where that comes from.

Lol! I could never understand the free lids.

I agree, I don’t like the ‘great deals’ types that we get from time to time. What on Earth are they on about?

Everyone OK? I’ve been off the site for a week due to ridiculous working hours - working and sleeping, not much else . Seems to be no issues though.

Yes, everything is fine here.

Good, that’s how we like it

Did you guys see the pending app? I’m not touching that one!! : )

How are you all guys?

I’m fine Nigel, and you?

All’s well here in Miami! Getting ready to have a superbowl party. Big event here in the states, I’m sure you guys know that. I’m on almost all the time, just so you guys know, don’t post that often though…

All well with me, manic at work at the moment but still trying to get on as much as I can.

And have a GREAT SUPERBOWL!!

Thanks! Not a huge football fan but it should be a good party.

Just lose yourself in beer!

I’ve seen a few applicants saying ‘to buy snus’ or ‘to learn about snus’. I decline these as they obviously don’t get what we are about here.

I’m also fine.

Just declined:- rednite 4 hours ago rex_stevens2001@yahoo.com Reason to join us. > personel entertainment

I would have declined that too. Hi Alex.

Alex, could you make ‘information for new members’ a sticky? Gives good advice about searches etc and might reduce repetitative questions.

Just deleted a comment on the ‘faces of snuffhouse members’ - someone rambling on about drug dealers, by his own admission he was drunk when writing it.

Maybe keep an eye on ‘Cops and snuff’. Ok at the moment but could easily boil over.

Made it a sticky. Great idea! And thanks for keeping track of bad comments.

thanks Alex

Guys, can we agree to close all new threads where people are asking any of the questions in Cstokes new sticky? So for example ‘anyone know where I can buy snuff in…’ would be closed with a note - ‘see sticky’ Good/bad idea??

That’s OK with me, I closed and sunk that one about the guy asking where he could get snuff in Frisco Bay.

That’s fine with me. I’ll close the sticky, so it keeps “clean”, too.

Quote Alex “That’s fine with me. I’ll close the sticky, so it keeps “clean”, too.”

I was going to suggest that Alex, but downloaded M$ updates that pear shaped my computers

All seems OK now.

al quiet at the moment.

Just approved johnmack and jayel. Both gave sensible answers to the entry question.

I’ve just closed ‘cant quit tobacco’ as it was turning into a cut and paste from the web debate. I’ve also warned ‘noob’ for swearing.

Lots of new members asking the same questions - I am routinely directing them to the search facility and snuffreviews.com and closing the threads.

Just declined duckshine Reason request to join was a one word’er:- Information!

And I will also continue to decline those, good call. Otherwise we will end up with a massive membership of spammers.

Declined jamiethemorris, reason. Just “ewr”

Yes ewr! Am I missing out on something?

He (or she) probably assumed it was an automated approval type of thing and just hit a couple keys to fill in the blank.

That must be it Mark.

We had half a dozen PACT threads running, all saying the same things, I’ve closed and sunk them leaving one open for the discussion.

Great, thanks!

Guys? Am I missing something?

Martin, I did think deeply before reopening that OT subject. I thought members could have a say in if they thought that it had gone one too long and as OT it was taking up bandwidth.

It was in no way my intention to cross with you, especially a fellow mod. OK, thinking about it now, perhaps it would have been better to have whispered you first with my intentions.

Lol! lets just say it’s passed. We’ll move on, you have the right to stand by your opinion.

There’s some sarcastic stuff going on beacuse I closed the pact threads, with bigblue starting a thread called ‘I love pact threads’ My intention was just to bring it all together in one place, some of these people are just idiots. Alex, Cstokes has asked if he can become a mod, I would second that as he seems sensible.

Let’s ignore these threads and they will be gone soon.

Agree, defiantly one to watch.

Whistlrr seems an angry individual, I don’t think he’s posted anything yet that just reflects the pleasure of the hobby. I give you even odds he’s a future problem.

I hate to admit it but I can’t get through his long winded posts! I start to read them and my mind goes numb. I’ll start paying more attention tho!

I closed the tibetian discussion.

Actually, he wanted it to be closed.

@ Alex, So strange. But if that was the case I think you should go back to your post on there and edit it saying ‘Subject closed by the request of World’s Best Snuff’. That way all the members would know he’s from another planet, LOL!

He is a strange one, no doubt about that. I couldn’t help thinking there was something ‘behind’ that post, like saying he could get it but asking if we could, also wanting sales figures and generally being mysterious. In a whispered conversation with Roderick last year sometime, he said that Namrata has a couple of alias accounts here that she uses to disparage Toque products. Now I have no idea of the truth of that - and don’t really care as long as people stay in the bounds of decency and civility - but I wonder if something like that was going on here? (in the sense of someone fishing for info) I’m off work with a bad back at the moment so might be letting my bored mind run away with itself though!

Nigel, sorry to hear about your back. Quote; “In a whispered conversation with Roderick last year sometime, he said that Namrata has a couple of alias accounts here that she uses to disparage Toque products.” I’m sure Alex can check out the IP address of that strange poster and see if it does relate to India.

Thanks mate, an old policing injury that flares up fairly regularly. I hasten to add I mentioned the Roderick comment purely for the moderator team’s information, I have no grounds for suspicion or the slightest desire to cast aspersions on Roderick or Namrata, just mentioned as it may be worth knowing. I would be interested to hear where the IP relates to though, the author didn’t strike me as using English as a first langauage. Maybe wrong of course…my wife (a Londoner) says pretty much the same about me.

‘To place an order’ -where do these people come from?

Double accounts are dangerous for the account owners. The community is very good in sensing such things. That’s my experiency, why I am relaxed on such things. @Nigel, get well soon. @Martin: Made it a sticky.

Thankyou for your words Alex.

If anyone’s out there, help! I gotta leave for a while. The pact update thread is getting nasty between cstokes and whisler. I deleted one comment so far but I gotta go walk a dog.

Yeah, I can never read one of whistler’s posts all the way through, my mind go blank. I’ve seen this coming for a while. Oh well, hopefully all’s well.

Thank you guys. You are doing a great job!

Alex, I personally think that Whistlrr and Big Blue should be banned - they just create disharmony. I think the site would be a much nicer and friendlier place without them.

Haha, new applicant’s answer… “Don’t know” I don’t know either…

Lets have an eye on them. Next time they get rude, we’ll take care. Fine?

Thanks Alex. Been off line all week due to IT problems - anything going on?

I think we need to watch Geraldo,who seems like a possible spammer. On the introduce yourself thread he more or less wrote an essay on one of the posts. I really think we need some kind of ruling about these vast posts that are clearly cut and paste from the internet. No one will ever read them, they take up space and are rarely about snuff.

Been following the Introduce Yourself thread and read, or should I say skipped through the copy & pasting of Geraldo, I left i to the others to decide if it was worth reading? But one thing for sure Big Blue1 should go.

Even I’m starting to think BB1 should be banned. At least no one’s taking the bait and escalating it. I still think it’s Alex’s decision, not ours.

I was kind of waiting to hear from Snuffster or Alex, to see what their thoughts were.

Good you please give me 2 or 3 links to problematic comments by BigBlue1?

Hi Alex, It was on the “Introduce Yourself” Thread Link After snuffster’s post #1572, but he or one of the other mods has now deleted it. I think you can still get access to it

bigblue1 was active 3 hours ago, he could have had second thoughts and deleted it himself.

I didn’t delete it either.

Nor me, and it wasn’t snuffster as he was last active one day ago. Yes Martin, that Shaman is strange, I’ve seen a few of his posting, lets keep our eyes out.

Users can’t delete their own comments. It must have been a mod. No problem so far.

I think most members know you can edit a comment and “whisper” it to yourself.

He made it a whisper to himself, right. If that’s his reaction on critique from us, it’s fine with me. Let’s whatch him.

I am away for two or three days. See you next week, guys!

Hi Alex, if it’s for business, or pleasure have a good trip. I promise that I wont cross with “whistlrr” As Administrator, you must have access to opening the whispers on that thread, you will find some members wanting her banned, and then my reactions! My regards, John

On national radio a female DJ said “In the next sixty min. you can ask me anything” Someone emailed her, asking if she shaved! Her answer was “That would be telling, I don’t look like a baby, perhaps I have a landing strip” That was as I was reading the thread on here. I lol! ask the same question and get hear/eye ache. I’ve had quiet a few whispers and emails from members on here asking her to be banned, and I’ve answered saying as it was me who wound here up I would not recommend it right now. I promised Alex that I wont cross with her again, life is to short to read her posting anyway LOL!

My feeling about this site is that the original ‘Gentleman’s Club’ aspect has almost entirely evaporated, which is a vast shame because it seemed for a period that it was the single place on the net where manners prevailed. Now we routinely tolerate the ignorant and unpleasant. I’m afraid that we just allow people too much latitude; we should ban anyone who causes disharmony, period. Why can this not remain the one place on the web where standards prevail the whole of the time? I asked ‘Geraldo’ in a whisper to leave off the massive cut and paste jobs and remember it was a snuff site and got one back saying his post was not for ‘stupid men’. Now apparently the obnoxious BigBlue is back on form - I have no idea what he has said and don’t intend to look as I just find myself losing interest. Alex, my friend, unless you start ditching some of these chracters you will find more genuine members dropping out. It’s been remarked by a few people, and is true, that members in effect seem to have a site ‘lifespan’ - you don’t get many staying past a year. Now there are simple reasons for that I’m sure but I wonder if its also that people lose a bit of heart? I’m not making any goodbye speeches here but I have to be honest and say I am getting less and less inclined to log on; my spare time is just too precious to spend it in cyberspace with idiots.

I, personally, ignore the idiots out there. I am making up my mind about the future of Snuffhouse since some months. So far, I haven’t found a real solution. Please give me some more time. I guess that I will come up with an idea this summer. On the one hand, I don’t want to let Snuffhouse die. On the other hand, I don’t want to get involved too deeply in moderating comments that I don’t like. Thanks for the open words. I really appreciate that.

Well, nothing lasts forever. My feeling is that Snuffhouse has run its course in its current form and I don’t blame you Alex for weighing up what the future holds. For myself, I think this has been an exceptional site but was destined to develop in a certain way as soon as the membership reached a certain point - maybe the way a village turns into a town and then a city. I expect my own participation will be somewhat less than in the past: I would have no problems if you wanted to take me off the mod list in favour of someone more active?

Nothing ominous. I just feel that we need some fresh stuff to keep it intersting for the older members. Snuffster, I will keep you as a mod as long as you don’t beg me to take you off. Active or inactive.

Ok Alex, Ill still be around, let see how things go I guess!

Just had 4 applicants, all with different names, two giving one long introductory answer, 2 another identical one, all from the same IP. Figured we had enough spammers and robots, so declined.

Well done. Thanks.

Please watch the Cancer Warning thread, it could get nasty. Below is a remark from nasalgent directed at Pieter Claasson:- “Ya, I imagine that would be disturbing if your country that your ancestors founded and built, was turned on its ear because of political scrutiny from the U.N (United States Nation). Then even more disturbing would be a much more oppressive regime taking over, making you a second class citizen, allowed to call you whatever they want, a ridiculous employment and social assistance disparity. Then to top it all off they sing a song with some rubbish instruments about killing you and your family(Boers) IN PARLIAMENT. The thing that must be lacking in SA is something called a 2 way street. I’ll take a snuff for all the repressed in SA now, cha cha cha cheers.”

I was going to delete that post by nasalgent, but reading the full thread I think Pieter brought it all on himself.

Pieter is another one that can be very strange out of the blue. He seems less jovial and ‘I love everyone’ than before.

I don’t know what to make of “Liang’s” application!

Could be genuine 因为我喜欢鼻烟 translates to “Because I like the nose smoke” But no use on here is he/she can’t type Roman, LOL! Lets leave it for Alex’s decision.

Lets see what he has to say.

I didn’t approve diane… . “for free stuff” Funny I think.

Hope I didn’t jump the gun, just blown her away.

That’s fine. Looks like she was lost.

I’ve just sunk the “Wanted Feebees” thread, it’s not about nasal snuff anyway.

Hi Alex, A new member “brianwalkertown” started two threads; 1-Wanted freebee’s, then; 2- Printable coupons" Both are begging postings. some regular members didn’t like this so now I have deleted, his post and the replies. Also closed the treads. I’m sure that he is just a 'Free-loader, beggar. As Admin you can read them. I’m hoping I did right and you could delete both threads.

Sounds like a good call, this is clearly not the site for that type of thing. Just approved ‘Scott’ and ‘Phager’ who both give sensible responses to the joining question.

My fault, I should have held off on approving “brianwalkertown”. I don’t remember his exact reason for joining but he did mention looking for good deals or something like that. Sorry! I’ll be more careful in the future! : )

Don’t blame yourself Mark. No one knows how a new member will turn out.

I just feel that people like him spoil it for genuine snuff/dip, or what ever users who want to try a product. Firms that will supply samples will soon stop if they get these just begging freebee’s.

To snuffster thanks for the backup, one member who whispered his disgust to me said the forum could get like some snus forum. As snuff is the only form of tobacco I take, then I have not been to any of the other sites.

No problem, my sentiments exactly. Don’t worry Mark, we make decisions based on the response to one question - some idiots will always get through.

All fine with me. Thanks guys!

brianwalkertown (Member) Account Created 3 days ago Last Active 3 days ago Visit Count 2 Discussions Created 2 Comments Added 0 Seems he came back a little later to see what was said, and didn’t like what some members thought about him, and hopefully he’s now gone for good.

What was he saying on the threads exactly?

Basically just looking for freebies, he had nothing else to say. If I remember correctly he was more interested in snus than snuff.

Yes, it was snus he was after, he got his bum kicked by some members for not putting it OT, and is freebees all you come on here for. After a few whispers I decided to delete and close the threads. He’s not been back since, he’s gone…

Right. I’m surpised the idiot bigblue didn’t start something up - he usually does when we close something (or maybe its just me). Good work. All seems quiet at the moment.

Yes. Good work!

Ive had a complaint from Bob re BradMjaors. Having read the comments it was the usual mannerless sarcasm that we get nowadays, I didn’t take any action but yet again, one to watch. I think our party line with respect to indivdual complaints brought to our attention should be to refer the complainant to Alex for him to monitor. Warnings from us, as experience shows, don’t do much and we have no ultimate sanction. Alex, do you agree? Could you put out a few lines to formalise this if you do?

On the:- “How are US folks paying Wilsons?” thread Brad was having a go with Spyro, I just said Brad & Spyro shake hands will you. See #132 of that thread. Neither commented, but I think Brad has took the hint and hid some place for now. Oh! I declined some one this morning forgot his name, But his reason, his comment for wanting to join was:- “You will find out in due cause” Seems we never will, Lol!

If you receive complaints, feel free to tell them to reach me via mail@snuffhouse.org. That’s the best way to make me have a look at it. If that’s fine with you?

Mind if I put that out as a quick thread from us? It helps for folks to know the system.

Go ahead.

Ive left ‘brute strength and ingnorence’ as I just find that screen name to shout ‘problem’. Although his entry question resonse is ok, I thought Id see what you lads thoughs as once they are on they’re on.

Hi Good morning Nigel, Sorry if I jumped the gun I accepted him. As you say his reasons for joining us was applicable. His screen-name would, could mean nothing, I’m known on a forum as WildCat, and I’m the most friendly pussy about. We will watch him.

No, it needed closing. When I signed on this morning I found a whisper from Pieter about the thread with a request for it to be closed. I noticed it was closed already. Cheers mate.

Yeah, I probably should have closed it last night, it was just TOO interesting to me!! : )

I re-started smoking due to a girlfriend. We both vow to quit after an event in July. I may have to look into vaping.

Don’t worry, you’ll kick it again Mark. Snuffhead - no problem with ‘brute’, I wasn’t feeling too charitable that night for some resaon!

Ive just closed the ‘snorters’ thread for the same reasons as ‘long line of snuff’. Lots of accusations of trolling from xander and the word ‘retard’ being bandied about.

This retad thing seems to be getting out of hand with the slanging continuing on snuff for the day, Ive emailed Alex and asked him to have a look. I really think we should get rid of people quicker than we do.

Ive just closed yet another thread. We need to work on this together and just bin them as soon as they start to get abusive.

I mailed Ardrasath to keep it down. If he keeps insulting people, I will kick him out.

Thanks Alex

Could you do me a favour? Please leave whistlrr alone and don’t answer her. She seems to have the feeling we are doing a witch hunt here. I know we aren’t, but ignoring her will help most. If she gets out of control, please tell me here in private or via e-mail. I will step in than. A big thanks for doing such a great job!

I learnt it was best to ignore her some time ago, LOL! Stayed clear of her on the “What Are The Duties Of A Moderator” thread By the way, we have a strange one wanting to join us, Reason “I want to know the dangers of snuffing and how I can stop snuffing” I’m leaving that one for you.

Accepted him. If we can help him with snuff related questions, he is welcome.

OK, Alex. Problem is we don’t know haw to stop snuffing!

All fine by me, I tend to avoid Whistlrr like the plague. I suspect she is one of those people who thrive on argument.

Banned whistlrr for being too aggressive.

I was just about to email you about that thread, then noticed you was there and closed it. You did the right thing, it was getting that no one could say anything without a ‘blast back’.

Good riddance! Also Alex, if you could unsticky what in your nose #6 and sticky #7, that would be great! Mark

I’m scared to approve anyone right now! Could be whistler in disguise!! : ]

@ Mark, LOL! I too feel it in my water, she will try and get back. I feel sure we will soon find her patter, of un-pleasantness, then she will get the chop from Alex, again. I’m ready to allow NoYB, reason > “I use snuff”. (e-mail address is > noyboy007@live.com) I’m sure Alex can track the ISP, and see if the IP address relate to whistlrr.If this person kicks off.

Personally I think we have enough members to be going on with, why don’t we just have a moritorium for a few weeks to let everything settle down? The bigger snuffhouse gets the more we will get away from the old spirit and get members who don’t even use snuff but who are just serial members of forums and chat groups for their own odd purposes - usually sad people like Whistlrr who probably need ways to vent their frustration and anger about life; I belive ANY site will do for these people. Alex, good move banning Whistlrr. With all respect and courtesy I think you need to think about having a few more checks and balances in place. Bob has already whispered me saying he doesn’t want to be around much more (leave that to me) and I also have felt the same in the past. We surely run the very real possibility that the decent people move away just leaving the aggressive and the trolls? Could I suggest the following; you have a ‘cool down’ suspension in place. If someone is causing disharmony - but you maybe want to give them a chance - why don’t we have system of 2 week suspensions on posting? That could be handled by mods or you and would show that this is one place on the net where you have to behave?

I’ll see if a temporary suspension is possible. Closing Snuffhouse for a certain period is no goog idea, I feel.

No, don’t close it (by moritorium I just meant no more members for a while) - all that’s needed is a bit more of a rigerous/pro-active approach when things are boiling over. I’m sure I speak for everybody on the mod team when I say we will help with anything you need doing. It’s a simple fact: if we can deal with trouble makers quickly we will save the site from going downhill; the internet is full of awful forums - this one is great, a tribute to you and worth fighting for…but it will take the will to do it.

The software update is coming the next month. It’s almost released. Once it’s released and Snuffhouse migrated to the updated platform, I will be able to empower the mods. This means quicker actions are possible in the future.

Great news, cheers Alex.

The latest applicant has written a paragraph of ramble to the joining question, Alex can you tell if this is Whistlrr?

@ Nigel, Great minds think alike!

Approved. Different internet provider. Let’s have a look at Pot Poe anyway

Good idea

I notice that we, at this side of the Atlantic are keeping out of that OT thread about knives. This thread just sickens me, should we close it, or would we be spoil sports? Snuff taking to me is friendliness. As I just say, I’m sick of this type.

It’s just about knives, right? Not about how to stab humans or game?

See snuff_n00b, postings #8 on that thread are they nice? Sorry I’m in to snuff and going now goodbye all.

Alex, you are going to be left without any decent members unless you start enforcing some rules. This site is being spoilt by agressive Americans (sorry Mark) and an increasing lack of any decency or will to do anything about it.

I guess I need a hint, at least. Thanks.

I just think we need to tighten up on how long we let people be disruptive for. They need to be gone as soon as they start, I also think it might be an idea to get rid of the OT capacity, virtually all of the arguments and abuse stem from them. Snuffhead was clearly upset by a thread on knives and now we’ve lost a great mod. Please bring this back to snuff Alex, there’s plenty of places where people can rant and rave - they don’t need to do it here.

Just closed ‘some more pact news’ which, predicatably, had turned into a political rant by our US friends.

Where’s the problem of ignoring the OT threads? That’s why I made a category for those. I tried to find the bad post in the knives thread, but #8 was just a collection of pictures.

One more thing. The moderation will become much more efficient with the new system. I will be able to empower the mods much better, if this helps.

Just so you guys know, I am here! I may not post often or reply some times, but I’m on my computer all day, keeping an eyes on things. I’m not really sure what to say or think about the “aggressive” American comment. I don’t really even know where specific members are from. I really don’t even think in those terms. One of my favorite things about this forum is the fact that people from all over the world get together (despite their differences) and have intelligent conversations about snuff and other things. When I first became a moderator, I told Alex I was only interested in deleting comments from the obvious trolls and personal attacks. So far it seems to be working for me. I don’t think i have ability to be the morality police to people from all over the world, with many different views and ways of life. Personally I didn’t see anything wrong with the knives thread. If we closed every thread because one person didn’t approve, the forum would cease to exist. I could see making a rule where NO politics are discussed, period. If that was decided by Alex, it could be posted and we could just delete comments and close threads immediately, instead of waiting for them to turn ugly. Anyway, good news!! I haven’t smoked since Tuesday. For those that don’t remember, I started back after quiting for over a year. Funny, I don’t really even miss it!! Cheers!! : ) Mark

I was wrong to make that comment and apologise If I caused offence, period. A plain stupid thing to say. All I can say in defence is we all say (or type) stupid things every once in a while and it was not meant in any deep way - just a dumb throwaway comment. Also, I don’t mean to be intolerant and I take on board your points Mark - moral policing is mine field best left to those who don’t ever say or do anything wrong! Which aint me… I really like the no politics idea which would probably be morev effective than anything else Well done on the smoking.

No worries, no offense taken! I just hate to see any group of people stereotyped for the actions of a few.

No politics. First rule for the upcoming version of Snuffhouse. Good idea!

Thanks Mark, and of course you are right about stereotyping. Excellent Alex, I think that will solve untold problems.

To be able to sticky / un-sticky would be helpful.

Hi guys! I’m definitely not approving the new requests that are just a series of links. I don’t know what’s up with that.

That’s a spam bot. Declined.

I declined 4 last night, they all seemed to be linked to drugs. There would be a medicine name and then a bunch of what looked like programming language in place of the answer to the joining question - I assume these are automaticaly generated by commercial concerns? It seems like we are the only three mods left, Alex do you think we should get more or just leave it as it is? Ther new snuffhouse sounds intriguing, what are the changes likely to be?

Keep a look out for Afterburner - seems like a borderline troll/idiot.

Afterburner seems to be a nice guy, yes. The major change is a new software version which brings: - a hosted version (which costs a little, but I don’t have to deal with servers etc. anymore) - advanced role setting (which lets my give the moderators all rights I want to) - internal message system (a real one, not whispers) - uploading pictures is much easier and many more. I guess it will take one or two more month before we can switch to the new system.

Ok Alex, thanks.

Joke thread cancelled after complaints. Please see the post from the guy who put the racist joke on there - I STRONGLY suggest he is banned, given that he said he didn’t care if he offended anyone. Alex, I think you need to put asticky on the front page listing the stuff that will get you banned. Well, I think thats about me done with moderation - I just don’t have the heart anymore.

Banned the user and deleted the post. Thanks for the hint. Nigel, I appreciate you being honest.

Thanks Alex Obviously I want to keep my membership so I have no problem if you want to keep me nominally on the mod list in case you ever need a hand, but I am looking in on a much more occasional basis these days.

I am currently testing the migration to the new forum. Looks very good so far.

Cool, I can’t wait to see it. I haven’t been able to get on a couple times, I guessed that could be why.

That was an outage which was not connected to the migration. But the data is now safely spread about two systems.

Just banned Mateo for insulting members.

I think we need a couple new mods, Alex.

Mark, good hint. Maybe I could make an announcement and we could choose 2 or 3 more after we reviewed them? Would this be a good way from your point of view?

Haha, not really a hint!! Yeah, that sounds good. Feel free to run the volunteers by me, since I read every thread every day I may be more familiar with the “players.” Someone in a different time zone (EST) than me I think…

@ Alex, after a cool down, and into self exile I’ll come back if you want me? I must admit I did some lurking and that guy Mateo wanted stopping. My regards, John

Sure we want you. Welcome back!

OK, Thanks Alex, I’m back. I’ll help out in keeping Trolls like Mateo out. Hello again fellow mod’s. John

Hey John… Nice to have some help!!

Thanks Mark, Keep your eye on Bill! I have a feeling it is Mateo too.

I don’t think there’s any question, his “Bill” profile here and"Mateo’s" youtube profile are almost the same.

But no new trouble so far with bill?

He just messin around now, pretending to be a newbie, starting threads and asking a lot of questions. No problems for now.

cstokes4 aksed to become a mod. What do you think?

And he mentiones Xander would make a great mod.

Yes cstokes4 and Xander I think can do the job, but remember cstokes can be a little over the top when new members don’t do a search for answers to questions already asked. What do Mark, and the other think.

Just banned Bill.

Poor Bill, LOL! I notice Bill came on with a yahoo.com mail address, and Mateo was gmail.com. I know anyone can get a web based email quickly, and are anonymous. Some forums insist on joining with their ISP’s email account. This makes is far easy to track. Anyway we better look out for him getting on here again, with another name, or maybe he will be tired!

I don’t even have a ISP email address! Just gmail and juno. I was thinking the same thing about cstokes, he really blasts newbies on occasion. I think Xander would be good. I"m pretty sure they both live in my time zone. Wouldn’t be bad to find someone in a different part of the world, I think.

Xander is awake at night it seems.

Yes I think cstokes does live in your time zone, Xander is in Wilmington Delaware this I would think is in the same zone. Alex is +1hr off me in the UK, your -5 so someone on the west US seaboard -8hr would be fine. Troutstroker comes to mind, but he’s not around very often now.

Good point Alex. I think when someone comes up volunteering, then we might get another snuffbox, lol!

Alex makes a good point. I get up very early in the morning, like 5 or 6 am and go to bed very early.

New applicant… I’m not approving anyone for a while!!

I think Xander would do the job, and favour him over cstokes for reasons I and you Mark have noted. Quot:- "New applicant… I’m not approving anyone for a while!! " bellsouth.net, that’s in your world, I think Mark. No I too will leave this for Alex.

Yeah I noticed the bellsouth.net email… does seem more “legit.” If not for the Bill / Mateo thing I wouldn’t hesitate.

I approved him. His IP looks save. Mateo and Bill shared the exact same IP. This was one person.

Any way for us mods to check IP addresses? I’m scared to approve anyone now! I approved Mateo and Whistlerr, I’m doubting my judgement!!

I’ll note that for the update. Good idea!

Another yahoo email, I’m not touching it!!!

Seems to be ok. Approved him.

Itsuke just apologised for showing Mateo/Bill this forum, but made clear, that he is not a friend of her at all.

Ya Itsuke is ok, she was unfortunate to get involved with that idiot. Just approved "Jambam 789 he/she is :- @aircomlimited.com

Mateo has started a personal witch hunt. Nice. http://thehouseofsnuff.yolasite.com/discussions.php

LOL! well he’s leaving us alone… Nice find!

Just had alook at it - one of those typical, unpleasant, sniping sites. However it should suit some of the people here down to the ground so hopefully they can all be unpleasant there rather than here.

I found it as someone tried to register with that domain. I rejected him, of course.

I saw that applicant too and left it alone.

Very frightening Mateo’s avatar has a striking resemblance to a strange-one, who comes in out pub!

I think Bill/Mateo has added a third personality, Walt.

That was me who approved him. His IP is slightly different. His comments look like him, yes. Let’s see what’s coming.

OK. I told him that we know each other and welcomed him back as long as he complies to our rules. I also readjusted the spam protection to prevent to many comments in a short time span.

Using a different computer on his same ISP?

Hopefully using a different attitude.

Hope so, lets see.

I’m watching him like a hawk…

I think thats a very big mistake, he gets his fun by being the way he is (or just plain needs to) He will start again. One of the techniques - if you can call it that - of being a troll is apparently calming down or stopping the troll behaviour. They get that much more of a kick by starting it off again; remember Hydrahead? Coming back with a different name doesn’t equate to being different. It depends how you want the site to go but there must be genuine new members that are put off when they see all this and there are certainly old members that don’t come around as much. If its the same guy just ban him and save everyone from the inevitable annoyance that is to come. There is such a thing as being too tolerant…

I don’t like that now he’s pretending to be a newb, basically he’s mocking us and he thinks were a bunch of idiots. Everyone seems to know and is just playing along.

I have just closed the time travel thing, he’s posting massive cut and paste jobs (and by Alex’s rules rambling stuff goes). Ive emailed Alex and asked him to ban him again. Ill come out of retirment for a couple of days and look in once in a while.

Thanks for the help, todays my only day off all week and I’m heading to the beach soon. I was gonna make a comment about Mateo / Bill / Walt being Whistlerr re-incarnated! I decided against it, no sense in baiting the troll…

You are right, he just needs ignoring and banning again.

I banned Walt for posting the same stuff over and over again. He posted his picture the fourth time after promissing me not to do. Watch the new applicant. He has a nearly identical IP. I’m not letting him in yet.

Good job Alex:) How about not approving anyone at all for a while? This complete oddball gets his jollies by just being a plain and simple nuisance. His next trick will be getting in via a new account from an internet cafe or something.

Just signed in I could see no new applicant has he been let in or is he out?

Not Walt, or whoever again!

I declined them,thought it was he. I seem to be out of mod retirement; ah well, we make a good team:)

Ok, nice to see you back Nigel. When I sign in and if I find a new applicant, I always look to see if there is any messages on this thread. He’ll try to get back for sure!

New Applicant:- Hayden1967. I think he is OK, but I’m leaving it for Alex to check his IP address.

Declined to Mateos (IPs match exactly) and approved David69 (totally different IP).

Yes, he doesn’t give up does he. I think for the time being us mods should leave the approving/declining to you Alex.

Good idea, all new applicants up to Alex. Also, if by any chance he gets through I really think he should be banned straight away even if he hasn’t done anything. He has to be regarded as someone whose sole intention is to try and ruin things - don’t forget he seems to have a thing about outsmarting people - this is one guy who shouldn’t get any further chances. I think the time has come for some kind of publicised policy - a sticky - that sets out a few basic rules. I think we should try and get a feeling going of not responding to trolls and flagging them up to Alex. Its been said before but it needs to be up there for all to see. I would also hope that in the new version of the site we can be given the capacity to close someone down in the short term. A ban should always be Alex’s decision but we could be much more effective if we could take initial action more than just deleting a post. This site really can be saved if we can just have a couple of changes.

Alright. I will deal with new applicants for a while exclusively. A sticky doesn’t prevent trolls from joining. It’s like a sign “Don’t let your dog do poo-poo here”. People who don’t care, don’t care about signs either. With the new version of Snuffhouse.org, there will be a pause button for mods. This means you can pause any user (like a temporary ban). This will enable you to stops trolls right away. Guys, thanks for your help!

That will help us a lot. With regards a rules sticky, the real point of signs is not that they deter people its that they don’t have any defence when they are dealt with - ie, don’t complain the rules are clearly printed. Just a thought, but with that pause button we should be a lot more effective.

Declined one more Mateo. I will check if the IP lookup is possible for mods, too.

What do we look for, I am not quite as IT literate as you! I think Mateos next step will be to use another account from an internet cafe of something - would that work?

Nigel go here:- Your IP address You will get the idea of this site. edit: and HERE This one even gives your location. If he used an other computer then he IP would be slightly different. And total different from a Internet Cafe, But he’d have to keep moving location, or we would soon spot the similar addresses.

Thanks John. So if he, say, lived in Chicago would Chicago users have a broadly similar IP that we could spot? I’m sure - like most children that are ignored - he will give up long before he starts moving from location to location.

One thing. We should never say that we can look up IPs. It’s like a secret weapon which we use to identify double accounts. In general it is known that the IP can be tracked, of course. But we should not ecourage trolls to change IPs.

That very true Alex, and worth keeping in mind. @ Nigel Quote “So if he, say, lived in Chicago would Chicago users have a broadly similar IP that we could spot?” No! I have three computers and if I connect with my local ISP which is karoo on each computer all four sets of numbers are different. so the IP number will not give you the city. You can bookmark that site I gave you and paste IP addresses in there, to find computers locations. BUT use it as a guide. I’m in Hull, as you know, but sometimes my IP address tells me I’m in Leicester for some reason. AOL IP’s change all the time. Also if I go out in the garden and use my laptop on a my mobile phone company’s dongle, then I’m in Manchester, or sometimes in London!

I think if anyone still uses dial-up, the ip address changes every time you log in.

You can have static or dynamic IPs. But the provider stays the same and the area is rougly identical. It helps but is not bullet proof.

Just declined an applicant coming via a proxy. I am pretty sure it was Mateo. EMail address and comment very similar.

I can’t believe Mateo applied for membership again with the same gmail address he started with!!

approved: hippiekid, hubertotto declined: NaTe19-74 and another Mateo I am declining applicants using proxies where we cannot see his real origin. This is the safest way to go before we have the ban button for mods (which is already implemented in the new version).

approved @snuffalufagus

I’m leaving well alone. I’m just not IT aware enough to be happy.

It’s simply copy and paste the shown IP into a check field. With version 2 mods will see the IP, too.

It might be an idea to watch Hippiekid - he just whispered the following to me: What’s a “troll”? just wondering so I don’t feel like an idiot if it’s brought up again, haha How close is the IP Alex?

I saw him when he applied and it looked suspicious to me! I wonder how he even knew you were a mod.

Have a look at the comments on the welcome page to put the exchange in context. All you cant see is my whisper back to him, but it essentially the same as the open comment I wrote. You will get the gist of what I was up to!!

The IP is fine. Let’s watch him, but I think he is okay. Please let me know if there are problems. Thanks!

In two days Hippiekid has only made 6 comments, can’t be our friend back again. But Watching. @ Mark “I wonder how he knew you are a mod”:- all he has to do is click on snuffster’s user-name and it takes him into Nigel’s account.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing about the lack of comments. I know about clicking on the username, but why?? I check peoples accounts all the time but it’s doubtful someone would check everyone to see who’s a mod. Anyway, reading the whole thread his whisper makes sense, whether or not he even knew if Snuffster was a mod. It’s almost funny (in a tragic way) I’m suspicious of everyone now!!

It was simply the pickup of my use of the word troll and the ‘ha ha’ at the end of his whisper. But you might have a point about paranoia!! Just ban him outright the first use of Latin! On vacation for a week, catch up when I get back…

Enjoy your “holiday” I’m off tomorrow, I plan on canoeing / fishing all day.

Yes enjoy your holiday Nigel, hope you posted that ‘Midnight’ b4-you go. I’m looking forward to tasting it.

And with you off tomorrow Mark, enjoy. I’ll make a point of saying around on here.

Thanks John, afraid the snuff will have to get posted when I get back - I just ran out of time with various jobs, see ya…

Typical London Copper! LOL! No problems Nigel, now have a good break from work.

Lol!!! First job when I get back! See ya mate…

Just Approved Snuffmillmouse Seems OK and not a Gmail or Yahoo account.

Just closed the Nr22 thread, watch Mikke.

Just approved a new member from Vietnam. We are really international here. Love it!

Vietnam, that could be interesting learning a little about snuff taking over there.

approved one user from Ohio (IP okay) declined one troll calling himself a troll (very funny) and one user (IP shows proxy server)

OK, back from holiday - things seem to have been relatively quiet…

Just closed a political rant.

Closed the walmart thread before it gets nasty.

Are we still leaving applicants up to you Alex?

I haven’t been approving anything.

I would like to go on like this for some more days, yes.

Fine by me, Im ignoring the one currently waiting. Have their been any more attempts from our friend?

Mcguyver75 and Chris74 ? Both seem a touch odd and putting massive posts on the welcome thread. Mcguyver does sound like Mateo when you read him and people are already making troll hints. Just thought Id flag that up…

He just called himsef a ‘head’ as well. I’d put a fiver on it now…

No Mateo. Except he moves some hundred miles from his home before logging in here.

@Snuff Head: I re-opened the Making Snuff thread. Did you close it on purpose? I do see no reason to do so. I’m curious.

Hi Alex, I just thought at the time it was covering the ground that has already been covered. A hasty decision on my part. I was out of order, sorry.

No problem. I was just interested. Thanks!

Maybe we should have some ground rules about duplicate threads and when and if to close them. The good thing about having guidelines is that they make the mods job easier. Like yesterday I closed something that was entitled ‘a political rant’. I knew when I saw it that I could and should shut it down. So maybe it wopuld be a good idea to re-visit the sticky about when to close a thread?

How about making Rodericks ‘How to behave on a forum’ a sticky?

Getting some queeries about Mcguyver74 and Chris75 (or whatever the hell they are called) Listening watch please gents.

If you have a special comment, could you please link it here? Thanks!

Xander asked me to tidy up the welcome thread as Mcguyver and Chris74 were using it as a discussion thread. I removed a few and asked Chris to get involved in the rest of the forum, the text below is a whisper from Xander: ''CommentAuthorXander to youCommentTime15 hours agoWhisper back delete Yeah, I think half of what he says is made up, and he seems to say things that don’t really need to be said. Also he says some of the exact same things in multiple threads. A lot of that is consistant with Mateo’s behavior. I’m pretty sure he is Mateo, as is macguyver. Thatjerk is questionable as are a few other of the new people. He says in the post above he’s never even tried snuff. A snuff forum is a pretty odd place to be (let alone make so many posts) if you’ve never even tried snuff. something about this guy, indeed… ‘’ I also detect a few things, but you say it not possible for the IP to Mateo’s so maybe we are juts beinmg jumpy??

Maybe he is just getting on othe people’s nerves. I will have an eye on him and talk to him as soon as he spams again.

Thanks Alex. Btw, when is version 2 coming out?

I too have been keeping an I on those two and I also agree with Xander Thatjerk appears dodgy. I’ll keep my eye out on the three of them also, and report here if they get out of hand.

Ive asked Xander - just to get another perspective and he’s always on the site - to give me the names of anyone he thinks is dodgy. Obvioulsy we don’t want to go overboard on this but might bea worthwhile objective.

Read this for what its worth, but out of interest this is Xanders view of the new members. ‘‘Macguyer75 of course. He’s dominated the place lately and is very new. I’m pretty sure this is Mateo in a new form. thatjerk: many posts very soon after joining 59 posts in 7 days. He also claims to live in my state, and whispered me about local things (which he could have looked up on the internet). However, he does seem sincere. Joshua2007: not sure. seems to ask odd questions and say obvious things. Low probabilty of trouble. London Jack: definatley not Mateo or a troll, but seems to say provocative things frequently. Just his personality I guess. (Personally he annoys the hell out of me, but I try not to let it bother me) Pgcd: Italian guy. Now planning to offer Italian snuff to members, but sometimes what seems too good to be true often is. I would hate for someone to take a bunch of members’ money and then disappear. I hope he is sincere, but not 100% confident. Khalid: also sort of new and has “convienently” discovered Icelandic snuff in London. Well, maybe he did, but he could be trying to scam people, like the Italian guy might be. (Mateo’s antics have gotten me suspicious of everyone I don’t know, so I coulf be really off base with these guys, That’s good troll work. They make you suspicous of non-trolls) Totalsnuff: nothing, just feels funny. Snuffrider: same, but asking lots of easy to find out the answers type questions lately. Or questions which I thought everyone who comes here woukd know aready. Is he just too lazy to use the search feature? I’ve gotten more worried about this guy in the last few days. User ShOwStOpp3r: too early to tell, but might be a Mateo alter-ego. Seems to try and push his luck a lot, and ask odd questions. ChrisS74: I have 90% certainty, feeling-wise, that this is a Mateo alter-ego. He has whispered me several times asking really dumb questions, and also claims to live near me (and has told me so). He’s cited a few local things, but he makes little mistakes and could have gotten local info off google maps or other internet sources. If I answer a question of his, he tries to lead me into an even dumber question. Its classic troll tactics. I also find it odd that he claims to have never even tried snuff, yet has made 21 comments in 3 days on a snuff forum. I’ve ignored his last whisper to me. graybeard19: This one could be a Mateo alter-ego too. Otherwise he’s just a goof-ball making long, hard to read, and mostly useless postings. Bishop: made some odd opening comments and interacted a lot at first. Has not been back in a few days. I only took my search back two days. Ok. that’s all that’s springing to mind, using the search feature here. I’ll add more if I find the time’’

Working hard on Snuffhouse V2. Should be here in some weeks.

Great news. Maybe we could stagger full membershio like other sites - only a ceratin amount of new posts per day for new members?

Just declined someone who was interested in kanna and other herbs, seemed like a junky type.

I could see him Nigel, I was leaving it to Alex to decide. Didn’t know what kanna was.

Well done. Thanks.

Glad I did the right thing, I took a chance that he just wasn’t here for the right reasons - certainly seemed to have nothing to do with snuff!

Odd, Wilsons of Sharrow and Ian from McCrystals both applied for accounts within about 15 minutes of each other. Both had proper email addresses with the domain at the end so I approved them. Should be interesting to see what they contribute.

Maybe Alex should take a look at those IPs? WoS already have an account here - they used it to launch the WoS website? I bow to your greater understanding of IT either way though.

I think they are both OK. Both applicants popped up as I opened this forum this morning, Mark got in just ahead of me. The addresses are genuine. If it is someone messing about, then Marks invite/welcome, will go to both Wilsons & McCrystal’s anyway. Nigel, your correct, Wilsons MD opened an account here. This could be the snuff miller! Anyway I bet Wilsons & McCrystal’s have been on the phone together. Hoping there’s no flame wars.

As long as the domains are ok, that’s fine. Thanks guys!

Good news. Well whatever reasons hopefully it will do the hobby some good being on here.

Theres an OT thread ‘bitch about anything’ Struck me a ‘need to talk’ thread might be good here. I know for a fact from previous experience (any one remember Big D?) that the occasional member has literally no one else. We also have people that can answer questions in a practical way - me as a cop for instance. I wouldn’t open this without approval, but if you are ok with it I’ll police it?

Must be following you today Nigel. Just read your post on there then find you here! Sounds a good idea. BUT, would people want to come on here giving sensitive info. Maybe just encourage the cracked pots. Give it ago, It could always be closed down if it does go pair shaped.

Theres lots of things could go wrong but I have the time to keep a good watch on it - it would either work or not but the click of a button to close down - I just sometimes get a feeling it could help. Trust me after 20 odd years in the job Im in Im not being a naieve do-gooder, just willing to take a punt?

Alex, ill give this a go but will monitor it. Any concerns from you?

Sure, give it a try.

Thanks

Ive closed the ‘matteo’ thread as it was turning into a pointless discussion - hope that was ok, one of us had sunk it but it was getting further posts. Self help thread opened, Ill close in a week if its a bad idea, Ive put the ground rules on there.

Alex, can you make ‘need to talk’ a sticky for a week, just to see if it works?

I would rather like to test it as a usual thread for a while?

No problem.

Denied Louisep for giving ‘sfpsfpsfpsfpsfpsfpsfp’ as the reason to join. Or it could have been an alien saying ‘yours is the only computer on Earth I can get into and a commet is on its way, get under the table’ But as nothing has happened it probably wasn’t.

Im going to let ‘need to talk’ quietly sink. Its there if anyone ever sees it.

Alex, can I ask that you ban afterburner without further ado, see the ‘bitchin’ thread.

Yeah, I was just about to say the same thing. Snuffster beat me to it! Roderick emailed me and suggested the same.

I don’t know if the term is familiar outside the UK but ‘puff’ is now regarded as pretty unpleasant and homophobic. I have my doubts about anyone like this who goes on about queen and country and has a picture of himself in a fighter on his account page. Probably been no closer to a war-plane than I have. Either way he’s a poisenous idiot. I wouldn’t be a member of anything he was thats for sure.

Yeah I got the “puff” reference, again, from the cruise ship days. I started to comment but stopped myself. I shouldn’t have commented at all, I couldn’t help myself.

Hopefully Alex will act immediately - I also think we should start listing people who are banned.

Done. Thanks for the hint.

Good call Alex, thanks for acting so quickly.

What do you think about having a ‘banned list’ type of thread? It would show that we do take prompt action when needed. A while ago the mods got some flak about not doing anything about trolls. A simple thread, that could be just brought to the top of the page when someone is offed? No big deal or sticky, but just a touch of re-assurance?

I think we need to see what the version 2 has to offer. Right now we cant really do much anyway…

Been busy over the weekend sorting my videos and mp3 files, and watching the F1 Jap. grand prix. But found this thread:-Banned

Im on that, woo-hoo! I never knew that list existed, thats my question answered.

Just aproved runjack. He’s been waiting a few hours, and had a sensible answer for wanting to join us.

Just closed the pact/wine thread - political argument starting up.

Possible troll with nicola37 - massive posts on snuff being harmful; usually when we get massive, long posts there is a troll behind them.

I was thinking maybe whistler was back.

Oh no not whistler! Just closed the Looking for Navy and Starr snuff (US Only) thread, as Cstokes said there is already a thread for trades.

This is a copy of a whisper from Bob: ‘‘I have to ask your opnion is it just me or is nikola full of it? I"am sure you noticed this but he didn’t describe nicotine withdraw but opiate withdraw almost like he cut and pasted it in. I’ve read a lot about nicotine withdraw and I get it about as bad as a person can. Severe malise fuzzy thinking yet no palor or sweating. I think he really is working for some company like an antitobacco group or a cigarette company. Now I won’t be suprised if I hear rumours that snuff withdraw is like herion withdraw and that it’s more sevre then other nicotine withdraws’’ Worth keeping in mind. Either way one to watch.

Just approved a few with sensible comments, declined the one who put ‘asdfa’ as reason for joining.

Closed inglorious basterds thread; Marks warning being ignored…

Should we close the “over dose” thread, before it gets out of hand?

Just closed it.

Nigel, I think a good call. My ISP was down most of the day, so only just come on-line.

I think so, cheers John.

Sleepwalker might become a little nasty I think I just deleted a comment to Pieter, something about “his head up is ass” or something like that on the how long after I smoke… thread

I wouldn’t be surprised if Sleepwalker was Afterburner with a different name. Might want to check the IP’s, Alex.

Im not touching the new one

@miamimark: Both Enghlishmen, but the IP says hundreds of kilometres away from each other. We’ll have an eye an him.

Sleep Walker got a little funny on his Thread “How long after smoking can i snuff?” Post #7

The comment I deleted was much worse. In the future I’ll copy / paste it it here before I delete it.

His comment (thanks for deleting): # Pieter Claassen That was a joke? what have you had a sense of humour transplant or something. You’re so far up your own backside just like michelle. maybe u could try putting some snus up there while you’re there.

Personally I think if a brand new member acts like that they should be banned straight off, I mean would any of us act like that on day one? Lets cut the future problems by being a bit stricter at the early stage. Its different if you have a long relationshhip with a group but if you come in like that I can only see it as being something thats going to be a problem. Or, give us the capacity to give a member an official warning; 3 strikes and your out?

Ive approved quite a few lately, all with sensible comments. Ones with things like random key-strokes like ‘qwer’ Ive left, just to keep you informed. Anything that looks odd - like the guy who wrote a page - Im still referring to Alex.

Ive advised nicola not to keep putting long posts on about the dangers of snuff; its basically coming across as troll like, she put a long post on when someone was asking for prayers, completely out of order. She’s in the wrong place or is just out to cause mischief.

Just closed “NTSU as a dip: ouch!” as I think it would just go like all the rest of the none snuffers threads.

Just opened up, and found a whisper from Mike B. about closing that thread. Here is what he said, and my reply whisper to him. Hope I did right in it’s closing. I think if it wasn’t closed then we would have had bullets from CStokes, LOL! Mike B. to you 6 hours ago regarding your closing of my NTSU post: one of the other commenters said that they hadn’t tried it with a fresh batch, so I did. my conclusion was that it shouldn’t be dipped when fresh because the ammonia burns. I’ve dipped it afer airing it out and it’s quite good. it may not be your cup of tea, but to close down the discussion seems odd, and the way you did it was unnecessarily rude. I’ve been an active member since joining a few months ago and have never been rude to anyone here. Snuff Head to Mike B. 2 minutes ago Hi Mike, thanks for the whisper. You know what, us mods can never please all, and we are not on a payroll, lol! We could also get it in the neck from Alex, the owner of SnuffStore. I think you will agree that having more then one thread running in parallel can get messy, or untidy. Since closing the thread I’ve inserted a link to the other on-going thread. and you can always complain by a whisper to Alex, if you think I, or any of us mods are out of order. He, if he thinks we have done wrong can always open a thread again. My regards, John

I agree with your action. We are nopt doing the job if we don’t act when we feel its right to. We can’t get paralysed with worry about offending people. In a similar vein I whispered nicola and asked him to stop putting long posts on about the dangers of tobacco. Its just out of place here and eventually will cause arguments. We do this thing on judgement and try to do our best. I think the three of us left that do any moderation work for the good of all and often have to put up with bullshit because of it. Good call John.

Just closed fishing for americans aftertelling them to leave the politics last night.

Ive just had a few long emails from nicola037. Seems we have a very unwell persom here, lots of paranoid ramblings. Im going to email Alex seperately.

I’ll be back online here in one or two days.

Don’t worry, we’re good, have a nice time whatever you are doing:)

Does our functionality change with the move? Any new buttons to press?

You gain more power to use it wisely. You can see IP addresses to check for trolls coming back and ban and un-ban users. This will enable you to stop trolls right away without waiting for me to take action.

Can we (mods) take a sneak peak if we promise to look but not touch? Is there a url that’s active right now?

Here we go again.

Woohooo!! Good move, now we can conference easily:)

Right, a few points, if you could kinldy explain. I, as a mod,I seem to be able to see everyones messages when I click on a user name. 2, the ‘announcement’ button - the old stickies; is it only mods than can dom that? 3. Why would I loose a post? I responded to one member yesterday and the post appeared and then went? I had to re-type it? 4. Every now and then the page will move around the screen - not impossible but a touch irritating. 5. Its much slower, can we have a quicker post time? Have you any idea how intriguibg this all is if you are not good at IT!! I do think I’m getting there but still feel like the dumb boy at the back of the class:( Also, livemydreams is operating a small business on the site; is that OK?

Hi fellow mods, like snuffstrer I’m pleased to see this thread opened again. Not been very active of late. I came a cropper on the ice the other week, nothing broken but feel very uncomfortable sat at the computer. Feel like I’ve been in the boxing ring with Mike Tyson!

Hope you feel better mate, Ive got flu, lifes just a haze at the moment

@Snuffster 1. You can see his wall comments. Those are not messages but public posts. Anybody can see them. 2. Only mods can announce, yes. 3. I have no idea. 4. I have no idea. 5. I have no idea. I will try something and we will see. 6. regarding livemydreams. As long as he is doing that in private, that’s okay for me. He should not act public, though.

Right, all cool. I’ve spent a very weird and hazy week with flu (every year at this time like clockwork) and still not great so haven’t been around much. Happy Xmas all and here’s to a great new year for everyone.

We are losing Nicotinerush as an advertising partner due to the laws and a breakdown in Tom’s sales. We are losing Toque as an advertising partner. Roderick believes that he will sell enough without advertising here (which might well be true).

I can understand the Nicotinerush thing; clearly he’s been back to the wall for a while now. What I don’t get is that the whole PACT saga seems not to have effected Mr Snuff? Maybe Tom made some decisions too quickly. Almost identical businesses. It does seem strange for Roderick to go though; this is the only advertising he can do and he’s pulling out? Very odd. Does this have any implications for the site staying online?

Just poking around the site and came across whistlrrs account, where she didn’t appear to be banned. I clicked the ‘ban user’ tab - OK? @Alex

@snuffster The site will stay online even with two advertisers. Roderick will see how it develops and might come back quickly. Regarding whistlrr, that’s fine. Probably she was banned but not shown as banned due to the migration. Now she definitely is.

cheers Alex

why am I always shown 2 in my inbox when there’s nothing there?

@snuffster Are there old messages you did not read?

No, the field is empty as well if I click into it. Not a problem, just wondered why.

Looks like a migration bug or so. Might go away some time.

Ive just warned Micheltn about being abusive - he called one of the members a wanker. This is the third time Ive had words with him and I have told him next time will be a banning.

How do you delete a comment? Seems we can only edit them now.

@Snuffster You are right. Now you can delete discussions and comments.

This new version has been a hard slog!!

Aaam IIII Alooooooooone in heeerrrrreeee??? I thinks its me and you now Alex

Haha, I’m always here!!! I just don’t post unless I have something to say! : )

Hey Mark, nice to see ya. the opposite of me!

I’m about but still in pain after my slip on the ice!

Well, I hope you get well very quickly John, nice to see that avatar come up! Today is my last official day as a cop; retired as from tomorrow. Ive taken it early due to my bad back which is very bad at the moment, so I empathise about the pain. Still; we have snuff!!

Well Nigel, I retired at the very end of 1999. Well I was made redundant, so retired early. I don’t look back to work as I find plenty of my own to do. I’m sure it will be the same with you. Happy days, and a long retirement.

Thanks John No, I don’t look back, Ive got a future to live in not in a past chapter, long life to us oldies then!

I reopened the bad trader alert discussion. I told him to open it. Thanks anyway, Nigel.

No problem, I just closed it because both are still current members and could see a war developing, which is why as the thread has been around for long enough to be seen I thought they should deal between themselves rather than a public trial.

Do you think we should get another couple of mods? I don’t have the time to be here much and that looks the same for everyone else?

I already had to in the line. I will contact them, yes.

xander and Cstokes?

I still haven’t seen one new application since the switch to the new site…

@snuffster Right @miamimark An issue they are working on. I approved around 40 new members since the switch.

@alex @miamimark @snuffhead - it seems mateo/walt is back??

Who?

and where?

Yes where, I’ll keep my eye out.

He’s on ‘the burn’ - might just be an old post re-surfacing. @miamimark - a troll banned last year.

Yeah, I remember who Mateo / Walt was. I found a bunch of “evidence” linking the two screen names. I meant, what is his new screen name?

I’ve seen Walt pop up, but they are old threads that Pieter has been bumping up.

I’ve just noticed they were all old threads. I’ve just noticed there are quite a few requests for the trade thread to be made a stciky so I’ve made a new thread.

Fine!

Thanks, it seemed harmless to do without consulting first:)

What happend to snuffster’s account picture? Could it be to large Nigel?

I’ve absolutely no idea how I did that, I am the sort of blundering IT iliterate who does everything by mistake - a kind of IT Mr McGoo, as it were.

If you have problems reducing it, send it to me. snuff_head@yahoo.co.uk I’ll do it and send it back.

That’s a known bug (error) which will be fixed with an upcoming update of this platform. This means it will not occur in the future anymore.

Thanks Alex Picture now deleted. Will this fixed bug stop members posting way to large pictures like FischTix did on this thread? > http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/4698/pictures-of-your-snuff-collection/#Item\\_19 I See it’s now been re sized.

Wow. I hope this will be fixed two, yes.

Alex, FisschTix picture again. His pic is almost as big as a street advert. Then after my post on this thread I went back and it fitted the screen, and at the bottom said:- “Re Sized to fit” then later I take a look and it was big again. So there must be sum bug with this auto re sizing tool, or what it’s called.

I think there are bugs all over the place with this, I get duplicate posts, no posts all kinds, I just ignore it now. John, sorry but I don’t know what you mean by ‘send it to me’, I really am just at the sending email level with a less than zero interest in things IT!

Nigel, You can email me your picture and I’ll re-size it and send you it back. Then you can chainge it for the large one in your profile.

@ Alex, another large image that bleeds over the supporter shops. See what I wrote on ddavelarson’s “Snuff Spoon Give Away” thread. Maybe you well make a sticky asking members to resize? Edit: It’s now back way to large again!

John, I wouldn’t know how to change it, I don’t know what I clicked on to make it that big in the first place. It doesn’t bother me so unless it causes any technical problems Ill just leave as is, thanks mate.

Hi Nigel, fine. no bother. Alex will deal with this bug, I’m sure. It’s just that the large files use a lot of bandwidth. The auto re-seizer does not always perform, and then posters who post large images over 950 pixels wide bleed over.

To change subject, do mods still authorise new members? I’ve not seen any popping up anywhere since we changed over? Doesn’t bother me either way, just curious.

This is still to be implemented. I approve about 2 every day and decline 1.

By the way, what does the permalink function do?

I’m pretty sure it will link to a specific comment, as opposed to just a thread.

Exactly. You are able to link a comment from another discussion or even website.

How?

Right click at Permalink and copy the link. Paste that link anywhere you want and the reader can find the linked comment.

on another theme, there is a donate to snuff house button now - it might be an idea to post some information on this.

To Xander (Alex) & Chris, when he’s fit, LOL! Welcome aboard.

Ok guys, to business. Xander and Chris, a big welcome, thanks for joining the team. You might find moderating is different from being a member and that sometimes there is no easy answer, whatever, you will have our full support at all times. Just to clarify, I have bought the site from Alex, I am not his ‘new administrator’. To business, I have no intention of making changes for changes sake. In my working life I saw a lot of ‘new’ people do that and I have always detested that kind of throwing your weight about approach. However, I do have my own ideas and ways of doing things but I’m a team player and would prefer change to come from discussion - not from everyone, because I’m not running a vast committee (nor a democracy, let’s be honest) but from the people that make the site work - you. And let me say right off, whilst I own the site, any mod here is part of a management team. My first point of business is to re-invigorate the management team. To begin with I would ask each of you to respond on this thread (which only you can see) with your views on a) what has been badly managed historically and b) what you regard as the solution, plus anything else you feel is important. Let me say straight off, that I am looking for a zero tolerance approach to certain things: abusive behaviour, trolls etc. I would expect people like Whistlrr to be banned after one warning, and some immediately (like the guy who made the lynching N*****s joke) Also, I will be making public that politics and religion threads get canned immediately. I need you to have the confidence to make those. Decisions straight off. I’ll keep it at that for the moment. Please use ONLY this thread to discuss site issues so none of us miss anything and it’s an ongoing log of activity. On a personal level, I am, as we Brits say, well up for this, and I only see the site getting better. I will be quick time learning site admin, but learn I will. John will be deputy admin. Sorry for the long post but we have things to do!!

Hi all. I really don’t see much negative to say about the past, I think this has always been a great forum, better than most. My personal view of my role is to block or ban the very obvious trolls, immediately. In the past I let political / religious threads go on until they got ugly. Since we will have a specific rule, I feel comfortable closing these threads immediately now. That’s about it! We have such a diverse group here, all ages and backgrounds. No matter what we do, we’ll never satisfy everyone. As long as we have a strong team and we back each other up, those that don’t like the rules, will just have to leave!

Thanks for the feedback Mark.

I can only echo Mark’s comments above. It’s about the best forum on the web and for the membership numbers the behaviour on the whole is excellent, with just a few notches from time to time.

Cheers John. My personal feeling is not much needs changing, I think we are all going to be singing from the same song sheet. Ive asked Alex to sign Xander and Chris up, I don’t think they can see this yet. When I get a proper computer next week I’ll be taking over the admin properly.

New Mayor Nigel, New Sheriff John and all Mod team members: Thank you for the welcome! I had to read through 20 pages and 952 comments to get to that, but I would say it was worth it, becuase it was kind of a crash course in “How to be a Moderator.” I think I understand that a lot better now, plus reliving all the behind the scenes discussion on Whistlrr, Mateo, etc is enlightening. Also I appreciate the confindence you have in me by inviting me to join this team. I promise to use good judgement and fairness in all Mod decisions. I know I have at times in the past gotten a bit hot-headed, but then, most of us do once in awhile. This is why moderators are best as a team rather than individuals. I would not say anything has been managed poorly in the past, but there is always room for improvement. If too much leeway was allowed, I can’t say. I think problematic members have been ultimately dealt with appropriately. Sometimes a word of warning is all that is needed. The site in general could use some tidying. One thing is how long members should be kept on the active roster when their accounts have not been activated in two or three years. Second is really old posts with little or no pertinant information. A lot can be learned about snuff by reading all the old postings (I know becuase I’ve read them all). However, a lot of time can be wasted too by reading out of date or simply irrelavant information. (I know becuase I’ve wasted a lot of time on this. Deleting can also save bandwidth. I would not mind browsing trhough old threads and then submitting them forward for removal approval. Third is reinvigorating the old FAQ tab. Alex had an excellent one started when the site was young, but it is not very up to date. One aspect of it was a very good list of snuffs, with links to threads discussing each one. I’d be happy to do the work on some of that as well. In fact I have done a lot for my personal records already. Thanks again to all. I’ll stay tuned for future developments.

Also, who deleted my avatar?

I’m exploring, but not yet using, Mod powers. It appears I have the ability to make Bart an ISTA member, or even to make him the Administrator. I also can ban Alex! However, I cannot change my own status. lol

Hi Alex(Xander), pleased your here. I’m sure you will do a good job as a mod. Having read through this thread, then you will have a good idea, as what’s going on. Your avatar. was it on a web hosting site? I wouldn’t think anyone would delete it personally, Mind you I find sometimes reading this site on a smart phone can sometimes go wrong. I did ban NicotineRush once, by accident and had to cry out the Alex to re-instate him. Thankfully he was very understanding when I held my hand up. Big welcome, From John in Hull, Yorkshire.

Alex I would stay put for a day, or so. This board should settle down when the ownership is completely transferred.

John, no the photo was uploaded by me directly to Snuffhouse. Its no big deal, I can always upload it again when I get around to it, or a different one perhaps!

Hi Xander and all. I will be exploring all the admin side of things when I get off this damned iPad and back on to a proper system by next week, I’m also getting some instruction from Alex so I’ll keep you in the loop. Ownership has been transferred, because of the purchase, but the system is static as John says. It was just bad luck that I bought the place the day my old pc crashed for good. Don’t worry, just a minor and irritating circumstance. The main thing for me is that I have the team I want in place.

One other thing, I don’t see much mileage in the ISTA thing. I think we should just let the thing drop. Unless anyone can convince me otherwise the party line will be that snuffhouse will not be the platform for this circular, going nowhere discussion.

It just makes me laugh every time it is brought up!

Your call, but I will miss it. I will still hold out hope for it in some form.

There’s nothing to miss apart from the occasional discussion surely? I’m open to ideas, assuming anyone has any that involves them doing more than talking, but I don’t intend to keep pointlessly making people members of a club that doesn’t exist. If anyone does come up with something feasible I will look at the proposal with an open mind. It would need to be run by someone committed though. For myself, I’m out in terms of involvement. Feel free to be the notional lead on this if you like.

Okay, I’m here. Sorry for the lack of access the past week.

And here are my answers: A) Too many steps for mods to jump through to solve an issue. B) I think we have the solution right now. A more robust moderation team with more abilities.

I edited a post by Fischtix for language in the Japan thread.

That’s my feelings entirely. In my view the mods were only partially empowered to do their job before. That will categorically not be the case now. There is no right to be a member and there are rules. If you get a trouble maker or someone who won’t respond to direction you simply ban them and make a note on this thread. And my position is that a banned person stays banned. I don’t go for this time out approach, there would have to be some pretty serious reason for me to overturn and let them back. If you do moderate someones language be sure you also speak to them by pm and spell out your reasons. Any arguments and it’s goodbye. Just do the role safe in the knowledge that I Support the mods 100%

Welcome Chris, As I said earlier, this board, at the moment needs very little moderating. But before I mainly came down to sort out the spammers. Remember the firm in China selling tatty stuff? Stuff, not snuff. I’m sure between us we can keep this site clean. Snuffster (Nigel), as asked me to help him out with some admin duties, I agreed and as I have IT certificates, but no Website knowledge I too am on a steep learning curve. Nigel, You have my mobile Number, I personally held back my land-line No. I need your phone numbers place in my land-line phones memory as I only answer to calls that I know. It’s more complicated then my mobile phone, will have to find the instruction book! Reason I get that many Glazing firms and can we help with removing you debts, (that I don’t have) etc. Anyway:- It’s 01482 341986 But don’t call it for a day, or so.

John, just got my new apple pc so will start exploring admin tomorrow. I’ve asked Alex to upgrade you too.

By the way, my mobile is lost at the moment, use email for the time being John or landline if urgent

Xander, if you are happy to start weeding, that’s fine. No need to get approval for ‘what’s the best snuff’ mundane stuff. If a thread contains useful or unique knowledge just leave. I am happy for a FAQ.

Commence weeding, aye aye, sir! I’ll probably start with the two year old what’s in your nose/mailbox, etc. Also all out of date trades, etc. I think even the current trade thread I might cut any posts over 60 days. That way it stays fresh. I’ll make a note for users to repost if their requests haven’t been fulfilled in 60 days. I’ll get on that tomorrow.

so, snuffster is the mayor, Snuff head is the sherriff, and now I’m the gardener. lol

Nigel, why did you ban Bradmajors? He hasn’t been on in awhile, but I got on with him pretty well.

I’ve banned two people, both insulted me in one way or the other and deeply pissed me off. I thought he was an obnoxious individual. Sorry if you liked him.

John, upgraded you to admin.

And I’m the bathroom attendant.

Nigel, I more than liked him. He was my friend, and I don’t give my friendship easily. I will speak in his defense. First, he has not been here in months and is not here to defend himself so its really not fair to do this to him. I have to think about this some more, but I don’t like it.

Thanks Nigel, got the Dashboard and just declined one aplicant >ImmadoSixtoox (mcgilmartibis@gmail.com) It’s an Estonian IP address. Reason for joining:- fake dolce gabbana handbags, louis vuitton multicolor bags, britney versace purse, miu miu handbag clearance, chanel outsourcings handbags. Piecemeal, this had an bumping on the women of London. It is clear that these sandals will never be worn at a VIP co-signatory and finally not in the street. The fad shows are being organized from once in a while to time close sundry organizations in diverse parts of the world. This is why there is a aware stab to pull down secure all materials and processes serve the principles of ethics. Mode is a time so accepted today that I establish no justification to spell out it to you. Discover up with something fashionable if you in actuality have a yen for to start the fad tendencies that may insert round looking for more than five minutes; signs of fake fendi spy bags, burberry patent leather purses, yves st laurent raspail handbag, valentino glam feathers tote, balenciaga part time handbag. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And that’s only an abridged version of it LOL!

Declined a Russian, writing in Russian. On about iPhones!

Xander, I’m sorry you feel that way. I don’t give my friendship easily either and tend to have a long memory when people piss me off. I didn’t think this would be an issue in all honesty. Ok, I’m faced with two choices, be inflexible or listen. I will listen. You have spoken up for him, i will respect that because I don’t want yes men here and I take you seriously. He will be reinstated.

John, good calls.

Cheers Nigel, Been a funny day, just declined another this time with a long speel about Sat Nav. This one has a New York IP Address!

Thanks, Nigel. I was going to write to you at length about it, but I guess I can save my keystrokes now. He did have a particular personality, and I found it refreshing. I suppose it could conflict with another’s peronality, but suffice it to say I’d hate to see anyone banned just for a misunderstanding or a personality conflict. Of course I’m not privy to anything said in whispers but in what was said in public I saw some minor conflict, but nothing that would warrant an expulsion. Again, thanks and hopefully he will feel welcome again and come back (and not piss you off, lol). I also aprreciate the trust this shows you have for me.

Can members edit their posts? I don’t want to tell one to do it if they can’t, then I will look a fool.

yes, I think so

Xander, no problem. Never a need for long letters or anything, just frank opinions and we will look at any issues together.

Roger that. Cheers, Nigel!

To keep you in the loop, I have written to midnightmoses who was a mod here and asked him if he wants to continue. I’ve taken the mod status off his account but said if he wants to get back to it he is welcome and just needs to drop me a line. He’s not logged on in two months and one thing I don’t want is a bunch of sleeping mods as it were - you need to be regularly here to know the issues and to be a mod (and miamimark, I know you are about a lot of the time)

John, Im going to start weeding inactive accounts over a year if you want to do a few in idle moments?

Good call Nigel, I was thinking of asking about that only yesterday. Yep, I’ll help out with that, starting tomorrow. I’m up to my eyes at the moment. Got the message, I’ll look into the Dashboard for you and see what I can come up with, but think that will be tomorrow too.

Yeah, I’m almost always here, I just don’t say much! I am curious tho, I seem to the only mod that doesn’t see the new applicants. Edit: Oops! I wrote this a couple hours ago but didn’t post it! I seem to do that a lot lately, not sure why…

I don’t see new applicants

I did’t until Nigel made me up to assistant admin. I’ve checked in my tools and this is what I find.

I figured it was a staus thing

Nigel, weeding inactive accounts over a year. I had a quick go, you get a pop up with 3 options:- 1. Keep user content 2. Erase user content 3. Delete user content It’s your call on the option. Me personally would go for option 2.

John, 2, as discussed. Re the new applicants, until the change to the new version all of us mods were able to deal. Now it seems as though its just the admins. I cant see how to change it so it may be part of the site architecture of this version. Im waiting on a proper handover from Alex still and I’ll address this as well.

2 it is. I’ve pulled about 40 weeds out and still havent got into the B’s this gardening is hard work LOL! Regards the new applicants, I remember Alex saying he couldn’t give mods the power, on this version of the board. I attached the screen shot as I felt Mark was feeling left out.

@ Xander I think you can stop weeding. I just found a way that Nigel, or I can do it, in one quick swoop.

Thanks John, feel free to go ahead with that.