Preservative for snuff

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After few days naswar spoil see https://ibb.co/41gGXbF https://ibb.co/FhRbGxg https://ibb.co/6YbXMVK

I’m far from being an expert, but I would say that colour is ok. Those white flakes look like sklaked lime or alkaline salts from ash (probably both). If it’s actually mold, I would suspect that it’s guar gum to blame. Maybe it’s contaminated, or simply makes a good medium for fungi (mold) growth. Tobacco alone, mixed in right proportions with strong alkalis (slaked lime and ashes) and water, should not be susceptible to mold, when pH is 10 or higher (up to 11).

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White flakes is paper, it is not mold. I wrote the date of munufacter of snuff on paper in place in snuff for checking that how many days snuff remain fresh. Thats paper

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Volunge how to check the PH?

Most affordable and the easiest way to check the pH level is to use litmus papers for base test.

Use those covering full base range from pH 7 to 14. Check your local suppliers. Litmus papers are relatively cheap.

You need to dissolve 1 gram of product in 10 millilitres of distilled water and inser litmus paper at least two times - after one minute and after ten minutes. Calculate the average then.

Or you can use digital pH meter in the same manner for more accurate measuring, but these devices are pricey. The cheapest ones which are sold for 10 euros are not suitable, they are very unreliable.

Measuring the pH is easy.

But in all fairness, best indicator is the lip and gums of naswar user. If you use good quality naswar yourself, you will feel if pH is too high. Too high pH is PAINFUL. The pain continues even after removing naswar from your lip. Your mucous ā€œpeels offā€, too… Using too alkaline naswar, you litterally end up with a chemical burn and an open wound (raw flesh) in your lip/gums.

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If mold is not an issue, I don’t understand what’s wrong with it.

Ammonia should air out with time, at least most part of it, if that is your concern.

Like I said, colour looks normal. Compare: https://www.facebook.com/Mardannaswar/ Also, run google search for naswar images. Colour gamut is pretty wide, all possible tones of khaki.

Also, worth trying making a small batch without guar gum, and the batch with reduced content of guar gum. And the one without slaked lime, only with ashes (consider using larger amount of it, that is, up to 30% ash; one with guar gum and one without guar gum).

And adding 0.5% ammonium chloride.

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Ok

Vegetable Glycerin works well but it’s very sweet. It’s a food grade product. I always add it to snus, and sometimes add it to dark coarse snuff for the nose.

mrmanos our snuff is oral. We try glycerin but it does not keep the snuff preserved for long time.

@Amjaf, just checked, the amount of propylene glycol and glycerine in most popular Swedish snus (General and Ettan) is 3.3% and 2.9%, respectively. In other snus (sweeter brand) its 3.4% and 3.6%. These ingredients are specified as humectants, but they have preserving properties as well.

Note, a combo of both are used. Wouldn’t hurt trying (together with ammonium chloride and without it). Also, if you will try adding propylene glycol and glycerine, make a small batch without guar gum. Propylene glycol and glycerine makes the texture of oral tobacco more plastic, you might find it good enough without guar gum. If you want to keep guar gum in the recipe, try using 50% less than usually.

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All the things u guys mentioned tried but the result is not good. Problem still exist.

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It may be wise to do a research in your native language. From what I’ve seen on Youtube, many guys are making naswar at home, it looks like a very simple procedure - mixing rustica flour with lime and water, or rustica flour with ash and water.

Cause of problems might be:

wrong type of tobacco (or the right, but contaminated or insufficiently cured one);
wrong ashes (the composition of ash of different species differs);
wrong ratio of essential ingredients in the formula;
wrong type of binder / contaminated binder / wrong amount of binder;
contaminated or insufficiently pure ingredients (low purity, technical grade);
the addition of preservative (I am sure you do not need any other preservative for this kind of tobacco, except alkalizers or pH regulator ammonium chloride);
contaminated containers;
wrong temperature inside the factory or storage section / warehouse (too warm).

If it’s all right and correct, then it might be down to the faulty manufacturing process. Ingredients can be added in different sequence. Dry tobacco powder is mixed with dry ash and dry slaked lime, and water is added subsequently.Ā  Or moistened tobacco can be mixed with the mix of dry ashes and slaked lime. Or dry tobacco can be mixed with moistened mix of ash and slaked lime. There might be essential difference. Preservatives (if only they indeed are necessary) probably should be added in the final step, when naswar is matured. Binders probably should be added to the matured product, too, maybe in the same step with preservatives (if only they indeed are necessary).

Also, you can take a glance at patents. For instance: https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2443131C1/en

Watch Youtube videos about making naswar. Talk with the guys who created / uploaded these videos in the comments; discuss with other commenters there.

Visit your state’s technical library, there should be a books about tobacco production, covering the manufacture of naswar. Maybe this book could be of some help, if you find it affordable (I haven’t read it and I’m not sure if it includes any reliable / tested formulas): https://www.amazon.in/TECHNOLOGY-CIGARETTE-MANUFACTURING-PROCESSES-FORMULATIONS/dp/9380772947

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I m really disapointed that no one have any solution how to preserve moist snuff.

Pls mentioned the best one. Which work probably

I still suspect there’s something wrong with ingredients, or just one of them. I would make a small batch following your original formula, but without guar gum. I understand that the texture of product without guar would be inferior, but you could check if the problem disappears, when you omit the guar. If there’s no problem with guar-free batch, you can use different thickening agent to get the right plasticity - there are many alternatives.

Also, simultaneosly you could make a small control batch according to German formula, which does not call for preservatives:

Tobacco 50.3%
Water 42.3%
Slaked lime 4.8%
Salt 2.2%
Ammonium chloride 0.4%.

Again, it does not contain neither guar gum, nor any other thickener, and probably would not meet the expectations of your customers, but making such batch would let you know if there’s a problem with your ingredients (I mean chemical impurities or microbial/fungal contamination). If the batch made following German formula doesn’t spoil, it would point that the problem is the guar or the tobacco/water ratio in your formula.

German (and Belgian) products are sold in small metal tins. They never spoil, only loose part of the moisture with time (and turn weaker).

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I will try this formula then get back to u

German recipe you suggested is very sharp for mouth volunge. Its totally burnt the lip. Also its required some stronge thickening agent.

But did it spoil?

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