@Roderick Quick question, (from my wife actually. Shes British and knows more about this than my American self), My wife wants to know what contacting UKIP would accomplish as they are just a political party.
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This is dreadful news! I am currently unable to place any orders with MrSnuff due to financial constraints, but I cannot tell you how relieved I am that I have some bulk stored away. I fear we are likely too few in number to effect meaningful change with our dark overlords. Thank you for updating us on all this Dave. I hope that there will eventually be a âreawakeningâ once we finally manage to sack the bastards in Brussels.
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The original post is dated 11th November, is this 2016 or an old post?
Can someone tell me what are the proposed changes, as this is the first that I have heard of anything so drastic as discontinuing so many products?
I know that my tins of F&T and S.G. have no weights, volumes or lists of ingredients or âE numbersâ printed on them .Â
Could this be the problem.  If it is, when do we stop. I canât remember the last time I bought a bag of fish and chips with the weight, volume of gravy, E numbers in the mushy peas and UK Government Health Warning telling you    Fatty Foods kill stamped on the chip wrappers.
Can anyone tell me what is happening please ?
Morlaix & Grand Cairo are gone? That sucks.
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I fully understand the problem now.
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Eu destroy tradition
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For all our UK members, here is the letter that I will be sending to my MP and MEP later today. Please feel free to plagiarise this, or use it as a template for your own correspondence to your local representatives⌠âI wish to bring to your attention a situation I have become aware of regarding the EU Tobacco Products Directive. It seems this Directive in itâs current form is all set to destroy the UK snuff industry. Nasal snuff seems antiquated to many, and indeed is the oldest form of consuming tobacco, but it is also the least harmful. As far as I am aware, there have been no fatalities attributed to snuff in itâs 400+ year history. Many people are moving to ecigarettes for harm reduction and support in quitting smoking, but I managed to quit earlier this year with the help of snuff. I had tried by using ecigs and failed. Snuff was a huge support for me to break my addiction, and is still part of keeping me off cigarettes. Speaking to other snuff users, it is clear that I am not alone, and others too have moved from the unknown health aspects of vape, to the more certain harm reduction of snuff. Snuff is mainly produced by SMEs, from the worlds oldest working snuff mill in Sheffield (established 1737), and the old Gawith mills in Kendal, to the newer companies like McCrystals in the Midlands and Toque in Berwick. There are other brands and artisan makers too, all striving for high quality product, keeping the old industry alive, and providing an alternative to smoking since the first British smoking ban in the House of Commons in 1693. The EUâs TPD looks set to destroy this. After talking to manufacturers, it seems that the registration costs for these products, which are based around Big Tobacco operating systems, could be upwards of 10x the entire turnover of these small businesses. Even if they cut their wide range of harm reduction products down to a bare minimum, there is only a very slim chance that the industry could survive. This would not just be a disaster for the businesses themselves, but for all the âforgottenâ snuff users who enjoy their products. Remember, the snuff users are forgotten, because weâre NOT getting ill with cancers, emphysema, and a whole range of other smoking related illnesses. One Dutch snuff mill has already hung up their overalls, and closed the doors. We need your intervention to prevent all the UK mills following suit. We must preserve this industry, not just for those who profit, or all the employees who are set to lose their jobs, but for all those whose health is greatly improved by this important alternative to combustible tobacco products. We need this quickly too. It had been generally understood that snuff was not going to be one of the products affected, but this not looks like it is not the case. Please respond immediately in whatever way is appropriate, to protect these businesses, and to protect us users from falling back into the clutches of more harmful products.â
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For reference this letter will be going to: Sarah Champion MP Mike Hookem MEP Richard Corbett MEP Amjad Bashir MEP Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate MEP Linda McAvan MEP Jane Collins MEP
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Can someone clarify the timescale for me? Is this new regulation coming into effect on 19th November the âdeadlyâ one? i.e. no snuff from then on? If not then what is the status of the âtowards the banâ legislation?
Simply put - how much time is there to prepare for the worst?
Anyway my friend here already wrote to our MEPs here in CZ and I about to right nowâŚ
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@50ft_trad thank you for the template, we need to find out which law that will destroy some of these snuff companyâs so we can reference it in the letter. Also it just occurred to me they use a Snuff box in the house of lords so I guess if this law passes they wont get any snuff either.
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@Roderick Oops, too late. Letter has already been sent to all parties. @Aamon Reference the European Union Tobacco Products Directive
I will obviously keep you all aware of any replies I receive. I would encourage others to share their replies too - we may be able to get like minded individuals talking to each other, and this will have more chance of impact if there is cross parliamentary support and understanding
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Just roll snuff in cigarette tubes and seal both ends. package them to look like cigarette. Blend No.1, No.2, No.3, and so forth.
 Ok sell snuff as insecticide. Â
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@basement_shaman that would incur all the same costs, PLUS all the additional exceedingly high duties which are incurred by not being snuff.
This is from Bernards website: Dear customers and snuff lovers, Due to the new German regulations based on EU regulations (TPD2) we are forced to make the necessary adjustments to all our snuff packings. The new rules are concerning the warning labels and the look of the snuff labels. That is why we will change the labels after having sold of all the snuffs that we have on stock. The snuffs will only change their appearance and some of them will also have to change their name, but the recipes, traditional production and the quality will be kept on the same high level you all know. The German resellers are allowed to sell the established products until the 20th of May 2017. Thank you very much for your understanding, kind regards, Bernard Schnupftabak GmbH
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What the fuckin bullshit are those brickheaded politicians up to now?!? Can we not enjoy anything in this world anymore?! Will I have to pay a fee to pet a dog? Will my piss be measured and taxed? Are we even allowed to breathe anymore?! Sorry, I must stop here, the politicians just wanted to tax me per word.
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Looks like thereâs going to be an upsurge of interest in home production. Even if some brands and products remain available in the short term, youâd have to be a raging optimist not to be worried that any remaining loopholes will soon be closed. Iâd really like it if @mrsnuff and other suppliers started selling equipment specifically intended to produce snuff from leaf.
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I am very happy for Bernard , nothing change for him and I think the same for Poschl
Will any of this hinder orders directly from Toque being shipped to USA?
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