A toast is made from tobacco that has been toasted or even burnt. SPs usually consist of plain tobacco with some bergamot, so #20 is probably unique in being a toasted SP.
- Samuel Gawith Irish D Light 2. FT HDT 3. Toque Toast & Marmalade 4. WoS IHT 22 5. Toque WH 6. Toque Bourbon 7. Samuel Gawith Irish D Original 8. Toque Lime Toast 9. GH Irish D 10. Toque Natual 200. WoS IHT 20 2-9 are damn near ties, with slight favoring, hence the numbering.
I’m slow at times cstokes Those that know me will readily attest to that! Why the 200 designation for the WoS IHT 20?
LOL Because I detest it.
@cstokes4, I have all of them and they are soooooo good. But my #1 is still F&T HDT.
They are all delicious. I just can’t get into #20.
@cstokes Thought that might be the deal… funny how preferences differ though. I gather you like the Grand Cairo a wee bit, (WoS or Frederick T ?) I certainly splurge on the WoS Grand Cairo myself. That we have that snuff in common but are at opposite poles with respect to the IDHT 20 reaffirms the wondrous diversities…
WoS IHT 20 is not a toast, it’s an SP
Ah, but it’s a toasted SP. It says toast on the tin.
@Pieter - that’s what I thought. I couldn’t detect a commonality between the IHT 20 and the few toasts that I have. So I wondered whether “toast” designated process or flavor.
Technically it is a toast.
I have also been looking for a good clear cut list of toasts (I really like toasts and scotches, scotches were easy enough to find and buy one of each, but not so much these) I have actually tried (and like) everything on cstokes list (except for the following): Samuel Gawith Irish D Light Samuel Gawith Irish D Original GH Irish D (never tried those yet, I’ll have to get and test those ones out) The WoS IHT#20 to me is exactly like McChrystal’s S’Nuff, and both have the telltale SP smell to it and I’m not a huge fan of SPs. S’Nuff and this one were both do-able, before I had tried many other snuffs to compare them against, including scotches and (other) toasts, all I had were the newbie quit smoking types and with that being all that I knew at the time, the S’Nuff had actually been my favorite, so I can figure this one also would have been, but now that I can get away from SPs I see overall I don’t care for them as much (Berwick Brown was even completely unusable by me). I’m definitely a scotch and toast type of person.
@cstokes4 - I know a lot of different tastes are represented here on the board, and I respect your dislike for IHDT #20, but then to love grand Cairo, remarkable, there must be something wrong with my tin of Cairo, I just sampled it while composing this. I find the similarities of the two quite close, one being toasted. That being said. it is almost an injustice that IHDT #20 and HDT #22 are similar in name, they inhabit vastly different worlds. But for me they are both an exceptional snuff, a must have in quantity in my collection, I have a new unopened can of Grand Cairo, I will air it out and continue my deliberations. Plain toasts are a rarefied world, would exclude any flavoring, I would think. But now that I think about it, the scotches have the wood smoke flavor. Hmm!
@Debbie, do not believe everything you read!! A toasted SP is neither a toast nor an SP. It’s a hybrid. I love hybrids (high Brits), I ride a GT ZUM hybrid bike.
Can’t let the GC air out, that ruins it. I think it’s the dry nature of IHT 22 that I don’t care for. And there is just something else there that doesn’t work for me. @whistlrr: Samuel Gawith Irish D Light is the original F&T HDT. SG used to supply FT for that blend.
Berwick Brown is not an SP. It’s Berwick Brown.
@cstokes4 - thanks for the tip, I will keep it closed! No airing unless too much ammonia. I do really enjoy how personal tastes and even slight nuances seem to develop over time. I have been tipping out 20 gram batches of IHDT #20 from a 200 gram tub, mine is perfectly moist, I do detect a real spicy element, I just love it, although I also just love SS, and many detest it, I think it should be tried by all, at least once.
@cstokes. Thanks, I have added those to my notepad file’s list of ‘things to try next’ On a slightly different note: what about the Molens/whatever brand snuffs’ “Latakia AP” and “Latakia 1860 AO”? I haven’t tried the AO myself just yet (tho I do have it sitting on my desk in another 5g smashbox to be tried a bit later after testing out the A/P more) but it is said anyway to be a plainer version of the A/P, which I am using this minute and is very pine (or to me evergreen/ fresh cut Christmas-tree everone’s mileage will vary) and definitely somewhere along the lines anyway, of ‘woody’ smokey scotch/toasts, there is an undeniable scotch or toast thing there as I see it So just where do people find/catatorise these Molens (etc) AP/AO fit on the scotch/toast scheme of things? Would they be on the toasts list?
I like SS. #20 does have some elements in common with Grand Cairo, the spiciness being one.
AP is a Pine scented snuff. AO is a latakia snuff with no other flavorings. They are two different recipes. Neither one is a toast, or anywhere near that spectrum. AP would be a scented snuff that is demi-gros to gros. AO 1860 would be a plain snuff that is demi-gros to gros. Both should be very moist when used.