It may be the perfect snuff (at least for me). Doesn’t clog the nose, easy to store in a snuffbox (dry), great nicotine buzz, and who doesn’t like the smell of toast? Can’t be beat!

I concur, it is easy to go through a 50 gram tin F&T HDT in a month. Even with rotation! It is as good as WoS Irish high toast #22

Glad I have a tin of WoS #22 on the way, then. I forgot how much I liked fresh HDT. #22 should be a pleasure as well.

That’s the one I keep forgetting to put on my orders sadly. I get all excited put a few of sws on my orders and, forget the hdt.

I’d say it’s worth an order by itself! Of course, I’m not the one paying for your shipping I guess it isn’t quite the perfect snuff - it tends to get into my keyboard.

@lunecat true, dry snuffs can be an irritant/unpleasant to some. But what’s so great about them, huh?

Never far away, never goes out of style, nice classical feel, pretty cheap, good flavor, unobtrusive, strong enough, sufficiently complex to keep you interested. I trust a snuff taker who likes HDT, it serves as a character reference.

I don’t like it. I love it. To me, SG Irish D Light, and WoW #22 aren’t actually very close to F&T HDT. They are very similar to each other, yes, but are sort of tired, dusty versions of HDT.

Shipping costs have never upset me. My last shipping cost was under $10. $10 to get it over a damn ocean sounds pretty reasonable. Buying Snus for $30+ for shipping alone upsets me a little though. Not that I would ever challenge Moe Unz.

If I do, he may take away my Onyx snuff again.

HDT, love it. Got some recently for the first time and will most definitely order more.

To play devil’s advocate, I must say I don’t like the BBQ smell of Wilsons No. 22 or Toque Natural Toast. It reminds me a little of scented potato chips. Is this “meatiness” less pronounced in HDT?

Based on the communities fantastic reviews on HDT, that’ll definitely be in my next order! These Toques were my first fine dry snuffs and I too have thoroughly enjoyed them. Took a little bit of altering my technique, but within the first day and the 10 tins of toque sampled I had easily adjusted! Looking forward to trying it for definite!

Going against the grain, I’m not a big fan of HDTs. I don’t mind them, and do occasionally crank it out, I just prefer something in between, though coarse snuffs like Thor’s Hammer feature regularly in my rotation. I’ve come to love 41P WE, and a few other fine grinds, just not a lover of HDTs. I guess that speaks to my character eh @JakartaBoy‌ Maybe I just haven’t tried the right one yet, which may be F&T. Each to their own though

I don’t care for ANY of the toasts.

I do not like F&T HDT, I love it !!!

F&T HDT is the snuff of the Gods. Second only to Viking Dark in my current Pantheon of Snuff.

What’s the weird Wilsons toast? I think it’s No. 20 Very underrated snuff. Super earthy, not like any other toast, not very toasty at all really just dryish fineish and plain but a really great tobacco blend.

I believe HDT is a staple not just among toasts, but snuff itself. I discovered it early on in my time as a snuffer. I was told to stay away from toasts, but it was the first one I really tried. I have no regrets. And the nicotine? It really speaks for itself.

F&T HDT was my first love

Only experience with Toast made me toss it away. Not for me.

I prefer SG Irish D Light to HDT or IHT, and I used to be able to take them ok, but now snuff has opened my airways unless I’m careful they all make me cough!

Wouldn’t say I’d enthuse about HDT but when it slips out of my rotation I find myself wishing I had it around.

I’ve probably done 3 grams in less than 24 hours. For me that’s huge.

@Jari_T I agree with you, partially at least. HDT has that unique I don’t know what that makes it stand out. Some non-snuffy friends who like menthol snuffs for the refreshment said of HDT that it was “like taking a nostril full of sawdust”, and I couldn’t understand them. However, when I tried Irish D Light, the woody character stood out more prominently. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a good occasional snuff, but it’s not the same as HDT, which I think is currently the best snuff on the Wilsons’ roster. @Idbowman I understand you very well: there’s no plain snuff like these two.

F&T HDT. My first toast, and it damn near killed me the first time. Once I figured it out; short, shallow, sharp sniffs after a deep breath…heaven. Once I got the hang of getting it in just far enough, and no further, the sneezing, coughing and other shenanigans stopped. With a few tins under my belt I found that really large spoonfuls, sniffed in a shallow, gentle manner worked best. Counterintuitive I know, but it worked, and still works, for me at least. I’ve been out for a few weeks, but check the mailbox daily waiting for my order.

I find nothing special about it. Sorry, it kind of reminds me of how bland most food is with out garlic and cayenne. Yep, I just did some. You can curse me out if you want, but it feels like WE garret Scotch. Except, pleasant. Don’t get me wrong I don’t dislike it, I gave the Garret away, but I probably wont buy it again. However, I mostly use moist, coarse snuff in general. I only use dry snuff if my face gets clogged or for runny noses.

@coreymillia‌, I’ve never tried the Garret. But there is certainly some kind of relationship between Swisher Square and HDT, like cousins. But I think Swisher is great! So for me, that’s a GOOD thing.

I recently sampled GH Irish D, and to me it resembles strongly to a sweet scotch I´ve tried before (possibly Devoe´s Eagle mills without edulcorants). So similar I´d say they both are the same if I were blinded…

I really enjoy toasts but for me HDT is not the grail. Now I like it well enough but there are quite a few others that I like more. SG, Wilson’s, Toque, SWS, and OM all have at least one in each respectives lineup that I prefer to HDT. If it were the only toast available I would use it regularly but that is not the case.

I feel this is a bit like swearing in church, but the last couple of tins with HDT has left me more than a bit underwhelmed; the buttery nutiness aroma has been lacking in all of them. Got a 50g tin in the mail yesterday and got dissapointed once again. Anyone else having this experience?

@havregryn Yes I did, but I had been using Dholakia White for 5 or 6 days. I believe that was the cause . I was desensitized to normal snuff. Now I try to practice a spirit or rotation; it is easy to get caught up with favorite snuffs. When I do revisit old favorites, I experience more enjoyment than remembered.

@havregryn Me: the last two tins I purchased seamed not to be the same exact snuff I’ve discovered and loved so well. However, after thorough airing and about two months of rest from it, I found I’m in love again… but I believe it DEFINITELY has some very different characteristics, and it’s still not as buttery/scorched as I remember my first tin to be. Batch differences I supposed, probably caused by something that falls out of Wilson’s control, mixed with the evolution of my nose and the exposition to other snuffs, as @basement_shaman has pointed out.

but I believe it DEFINITELY has some very different characteristics, and it’s still not as buttery/scorched as I remember my first tin to be. Batch differences I supposed, probably caused by something that falls out of Wilson’s control, mixed with the evolution of my nose and the exposition to other snuffs, as @basement_shaman has pointed out.

Yes, this is exactly what I get as well, something happened and it’s not what it used to be. But it’s still great toast, it might just be that it’s just not toasted as much as it was in previous batches?

@havregryn That’s what I initially thought, because I found the presence of ammonia on the newer tins somewhat strange having account of the toasting process and dryness level… but I initially discarded such option because having known just a couple of batches I can’t really compare: perhaps the other had been sitting on a storage room for ages and its flavor developed, perhaps the next tobacco crop was of a different quality or matured at a slightly different time of the year, or perhaps, as I said, my nose has changed on presence of the regular use of other snuffs (notably, Viking Dark, with similar tobacco fragrance notes yet a significantly smokier character). I just don’t know what to think, specially not being alone on these thoughts, but I’ve just had a pinch of this “new” HDT and it felt quite well.

Yes it is very good. Btw; my latest tin also got ammonia, something I’ve never had in HDT before.

For a while my local tobacconist had some elderly bulk HDT on hand, and it was very buttery in character, the HDT I have ordered seems much less so, thus I bought a can that has been opened & aired but then put away in hopes it will has “developed”. Not sure how long to wait 2 years? 5? I don’t think I could wait later than that.

There could be crop year variances at work here. It’s agricultural, after all, and each year will have different characteristics. I haven’t a clue as to the WoS recipe, tobacco bill, toasting method, etc. I do know that the 2015 batches of Pure Virginia Toast, Butternut Toast and Limoncello will be different from the 2014 vintages. Not better, worse or whatever. Just different. Tobacco has much in common with the grapes used in making wine; lower yields equals more concentration, and weather has quite an impact. Heat, rain, humidity, sunshine, duration…there’s too many to mention. I’ve had local burley from the same plot of land over the last 15 years, and each is different. They plant every three years around here, giving the soil a chance to recover and time to plant “green manure”…usually clover, vetch, legumes and other crops that replenish nitrogen. Plowed under and composted in-place; much better than chemical fertilizers. That said, it’s all pretty damn good weed. The 2014 crop year of local burley is showing more sugar and less nicotine than the 2011 crop I’ve been working with. That old toasted burley found “lost” in a warehouse is freaking wonderful. It’s at least 7 years old, fully threshed, toasted lightly in a ceramic drum rotary kiln and smells like biscuits

I can’t take fine snuffs, and HDT for me is horrendous. Not only does it choke me irrespective of technique, but it also smell disgustingly sickly too. For me personally, HDT is the embodiment of everything a snuff should NOT be. We’re all different

Toque Natural Toast, to live for and appreciate as it ages! Toast and marmalade is a close 2nd.

HDT is probably my favorite toast, but I go through phases where I don’t use toasts much. If dry toasts are on one end of the scale and dark moist schmaltzers (sp?) are on the other, right this minute I’m leaning towards the moist ones. Eventually I’ll lean back towards the dry side, and be all about the HDT for a while. One of the things I’ve enjoyed about this forum over the years is that there has never been any of the “oh, you don’t like HDT? Run along, the grown-ups are talking” kind of attitude that so many of the older snuff forums had.

I myself change up the rotation come spring and summer time. More of the dark and similar snuff. Love toasts but seem to use those more in the colder months. May try some of the fruity ones I have for spring time.

I like the scent and nicotine of HDT but it gives my nose the runs big time and has an irritating nose feel.

I love HDT, but for some bizarre reason, it makes me hungry! I can’t take it at the moment because I’m trying to lose my beer gut

Just tried some today. It’s alright. My opinion may change I just got a package today in with it and, have been shoving the whole thing up my nose. It was a bad idea but, I can probably at least tell if I hate one.

New tin received, italic lettering on the top label, everything back to where it stood with my first tin, or almost: no more ammonia scent or grit, just buttery aroma and soft feeling. Batch variance was great with this one, and I have the two tins to compare. Such a fine produce, that changes character subjected to even the most subtle crop or process changes! Snuff should be up there with wine.

Dose the “NOT” mean “Need Offen Today” ?? That’s what I get from description of discussion!! “IMO”.

There are times when I wished everyone hated HDT. Then I wouldn’t have to worry about running out.

I know a few members here not like hdt: If NOT is short for Nuts Over Toasts 8-}

There are times when I wished everyone hated HDT. Then I wouldn’t have to worry about running out.

Haha. No, then they’d cease production. But don’t worry, I don’t think it’s going to happen today or tomorrow.

I LOVE HDT. BUT… I am fortunate to have been given a nearly 20 year old tin of HDT (or so I have been told) about which I started a thread some time ago. It is quite different and better, I must say. If you are interested here is the link to that thread… http://www.snuffhouse.org/discussion/8970/older-vs-new-high-dry-toast-dating-flavor-differences#latest

I am a recent initiate to HDT. My first impression when opening the tin: quick sniff of the lid; oh good gods this is buttery, bready, nutty amazingness; then a spoonful; then a coughing fit; then another careful spoonful taken from the back of the hand…aaaand now I can’t stop. It’s so beautiful. This is everything I expected snuff to be. This and OM Ecrous Brulee, that is. I think I could be happy with nothing but those two (and maybe McC’s O&G) forever and ever. Maybe.

There are some folk that don’t get along with fine dry snuff, there was a thread not so long ago on the subject. For me I buy HDT & IHT#22 in bulk. At Lunecat Towers HDT and Lundy Foot are never put back into the store box. I like them so much. About three months ago I bought 8X50g HDT as SnuffStore has a 1/3 discount offer. I wish I had bought double that amount now.

The only issue I have with dry snuff is that it’s hard to get it to stick later in the day, it all seems to just fall back out of my nose, leading to a brown powdered shirt, keyboard, desk, you name it.

I don’t like HDT and will never again buy any of the toasts, neither will i buy any menthols…I will keep the tub of hedges for when i am a bit blocked…but never again will i touch a toast or a HDT.

Im  a bit of  a kiljoy, but for me good snuff is plain snuff with a good nicotine hit, a little moisture and a medium grind…I’m starting to think your regular JH Wilson No 1, or your WoS Best SP are the best …not too much scent and a nice basic snuff.

@havregryn I stopped loving it based on my perception that it got smokier and less nutty. I thought it used to smell quite similar to Irish No22 but with a hint of smokiness. There are batch variations in all snuffs, though- even the artisan ones.

what is funny is I have a cold right now. Started working custodial work at a daycare and of course got a pretty nasty cold and right now my toasts smell like someone up there described them, to have a kind of burnt plastic scent. Rest of the time they smell like pipe tobacco or cigars to me. Toasts are just one of my favorites. 

I’m now a convert…this HDT smells delicioius all of a sudden , and it packs a decent punch. Everything i want from a snuff. I now Love this stuff with a vengeance…

Haha

Great snuff, although the little tins tend to be overfilled and a lot spills any time I open, also not a snuff I can easily take in public as no matter what technique outside of breathing through my mouth for 20 minutes it will get to my throat and cause some coughing.  I tend to mix with the toque toasts to increase the overall particle weight which solves this, HDT + toque lime toast, almond toast, bourbon, sounds strange but is delicious.

 Not bad but by far not the greatest toast.  Both Irish no.22 and Irish D leave it far behind in my opinion.

@Captainblackboogers I’d second that but add Toque Natural Toast. Now the SWS and Old Mill toasts, that’s a separate subject IMHO. 

Actually, I am not crazy about them, just too fine and powdery. I think why I like most Toques so much is how they nail both the grind and moisture level which I know is not really pertinent to this thread as HDTs are supposed to be the way they are…l

I don’t hate it. I don’t love it either.

Tried HDT, suffered through a whole tin in hopes that at some point I’d get it. It unfortunately reminds me of electronics letting out their magic smoke. So far the only toast I like is Toque’s Lime Toast.

  I tried some out again yesterday. I could get into it. It’s sort of like a lighter and more delicate Irish 22, like 22s 

sweet and effeminate little brother, or, to put it another way, if irish 22 was a recipe made with milk, IHT would be

 the same recipe but with cream.

  I still like 22 better though. 

Despite snuffing for nearly 15yrs I’ve never actually tried HDT. My bad or good choice?

I think you should try it.

It’s ok, but I prefer coarse and moist. I understand liking toasts. They are not my cuppa, however.

  I’ve been giving it a good chance the last few days and i must say HDT is very nice, a creamy,delicate, moreish all day snuff.  It’s been my main since i decided to give it a chance and took a half full box of it to work the other day.

It’s easy to forget how good HDT is. I think it has slowly become my favourite toast. As you say, @Captainblackboogers, that delicate creaminess is unique in the toast category and, to my nose, takes it a notch above the rest. Especially when it’s really fresh… yum. Though Toque Natural Toast could almost replace it, if it had to. 

Well, I have a technique with all snuff that I have to follow because I have quite sensitive sinus issues and most snuff on its own will create a problem. High Dry Toast in not exception. For me I have a base Snuff as a mixer and that is Top Mill, I then add the deired snuff to the base snuff (approx 2 spoons of top mill to one of the desired snuff) and enjoy Top Mill with the snff. So for High Dry I mix it with top mill and do the same for Crumbs of Comfort. I then avoid the blocked nose caused by using a single type.

I really like the HDT as it is. The most impressive thing is its complexity. The aroma and scent differs in terms of weather and if it is moist out there or a more dry air.

It is not a perfect snuff, but it has such a wonderful base tobacco.

I almost think about getting a large tin. The last three 20 gram tins went through in half a year.

I think its the least toasty toast ive had, by English snuff standards anyway. Id say Irish d is first in toast flavor, then Irish 22, which seems nuttier but not as smoky. Theyre all good, if thats what your into.

@Snuffalufagis have you tried the Sir Walter Scott’s Lundy Foot?

A great toast!

@tobaccobob I have! It’s very good, as well as 50/50 and st james parish (which I’m currently involved in a serious binge with). I found the Havana toast kinda lacking… Unfortunate. I’m anticipating an order with a tin of mull of oa and latakia for the first time as well. What got me hooked on toasts was honestly toque natural toast, which I have a large stock of lol! Its wonderful to say the least, I think it has a great balance of smokey, nutty, and buttery, and is very easy to take in large quantity, for me at least.

I’m mostly a fine toast person, and bought my first tin of HDT this year. It wasn’t my favorite but as I ran out of everything else I was left with the tin and nothing else. I got over myself and actually learned to like it. I’ve been able to take fine snuffs for a while now but can imagine people less acquainted with them having trouble with the learning curve.

@Snuffalufagis I havent tried the 50/50 yet.Is it very close to St.James Parish?

It is, but I get a bit of vinegar after a few minutes. I especially smell it on my fingers after a few pinches… I thoroughly enjoy it but my wife gets kinda weirded out when she can smell it on me lol

Thank you for your answer my friend!

Now,the wife’s disapproval is a sign that I’m going to like it very much!

Now it’s getting interesting! @Snuffalufagis, is 50/50 dry and fine like St. James, or moister and coarser? How’s the nicotine? I find St. James one of the strongest snuffs. I owe @tobaccobob for introducing me to this pleasure.

@volunge I really cant find a difference in nic, I’ve been a smoker for 17 years and really cant discern a buzz unless its first thing in the morning. However I dont seem to chain pinch with either. They are both fine and dry, with the 50/50 being a few shades darker brown.

@Snuffalufagis, thanks, sounds like they are similar in nic. I’m not chasing the buzz either, only fixing my regular cravings, but I’m fairly sensitive to nicotine fluctuation, especially when it comes to lower potency. Some snuffs simply don’t make it for me and even chain pinching doesn’t help. Havana toast is one of them, as well as Tears of Chios, Thrice Brewed, Latakia Blend and Roslein. Quality tobacco really shines there, all neat snuffs them, but lacking in nicotine.

@volunge I actually found thrice brewed to be very good for nic, what was the moisture and grind? Mine seemed dry for as course as it is. I really found havana toast lacking all around, I really dont enjoy it on any level.

@Snuffalufagis, I was treated with a generous sample of TB. It was dried out, but easily rehydrated. However, despite it being fortified with tobacco extract, I found it well below the expected medium-to-high potency. The thing is, TB recipe doesn’t mention any alkalizers, and it seems that re-creating this snuff, snuff maker followed recipe to the letter. A small deviance would be very welcome, though - I’m sure this snuff (and those other few mentioned in my previous post) would benefit from a tad higher pH… St. James and Lundy are great examples of high pH virtues.

Im going to differ here and admit that I really dont get on with HDT at all. That butter taste seems to build up toa cresendo and becomes overly powerfull. Add the fact that it is very fine and you have the recipe for a sneeze and taste sensation.

I think F&T HDT is unique but to say it’s the best toast would be a stretch.  It’s really not that powerful, at least compared to other toasts.  The texture is different, which makes it pleasant

Overall it’s good.  I think IHT #22 is a little bit better.  They serve their own purposes though

My favorite toast is Samuel Gawith Irish D.  It serves every purpose

I prefer Irish 22 a lot more than HDT.

I also can’t believe it when some people say that HDT and Irish 22 are the same. For me they very distinctively different.

For me Irish 22 has more burn off the bat and has a milder toasty and nutty aroma. I can easily take this all day with pleasure.

HDT takes a bit more time to give a weaker but long burn, but I find it has more of a leather and smoky aroma which leaves me with a sickly feeling. I struggle to take HDT after a few bumps as it leaves me with a this sickly feeling in my gut.

Samuel Gawith Irish D was a bit of a disappointment for me as it had a weak burn and a drab earthy scent which did nothing for me.