So, I’m in a local convenience store last night and I notice they have this huge display of Camel Snus. I asked the clerk about it and she told me they sell a lot of it. I tried some free samples in the past but didn’t care for it but apparently someone is using this stuff. It didn’t give me much nicotine and I also have a hang up about swallowing tobacco. I’m thinking it can’t possibly be healthy to do that. To be fair tho, I’ve never tried the ‘real’ snus, i.e Swedish stuff and the like.
I tend to swallow a bit just using snuff. I think its very small quantities in both though.
I don’t think there’s anyway around swallowing some degree of snuff. I keep a cup on hand and spit out my sinus drainage constantly. I just try to minimize it as much as possible. I do tend to take in rather large sniffs tho and some of the brands will drain more than others. As nasty as it may sound, some flavors actually leave a pleasant taste in the throat. Tho I digress, this has nothing to do with snus or dip.
Digress all you wish. The thread started with a very different topic. You’re the one who tried to bring it back to Camel. We’ve all digressed. Anyway, I spit out whenver I can too. I also know what you mean by the pleasant taste in the throat, especially among the American Sweet Snuffs. What bothers me, is that it didn’t used to be pleasant. Smoking which is unpleasant at first, beccomes very pleasant with repeated use. Snuff taking, both oral and nasal also go from being unpleasant to pleasant. Do you see the pattern? Is my throat getting coating with and absorbing nicotine regularly becoming addictive? When I dipped, I used to get an actual sort of itch of sorts in my lip when I hadn’t had one in awhile. I know I need to smoke when I get a sort of ache or itch in my lungs. I think in addition to the actual nicotine in the bloodstream, which is addictive, the actual place of entry seems to get addicted on its own. Anyway, in trying to prevent this (as I think the throat is much more dangerous place for this to be than anywhere else) I am practicing a method of force blowing air out my nose (along the sinus) whenever I feel the snuff working its way up there. If it gets too far, I give myself a big hankie blow, then wait a few minutes and take another pinch.
Xander, I can’t comment on smoking since I only do the occasional pipe and a very rare cigar now and then. I know that from snuffing a whole lot of the stuff goes down the old pipe. Try keeping a cup or bottle around when you snuff and get in the habit of hawking and spitting just after a pinch or two. You’ll find the container is quite full of brackisch fluid which would otherwise end up in your gut. I personally feel that snuff is the safest form of nicotine absorption but I shudder at the idea of ingesting that stff into my GI tract.
Since my wastebasket is usually full of used tisues, I usually just spit into it. I kept a spitting cup around the first week or so I snuffed. I had a few horribly messy accidents back in my dipping days, so I stopped keeping the cup around. If swallowed, I’d actually expect the GI tract to neutralize most of it. There’s so much acid and liquid down there I would think it would get both neutralized and diluted. Anyway, this should all be short term, as I expect to be able to keep it out of the throat entirely, before long.
I know that those full cups of dip juice can be messy. I knocked a full one off the counter at work one day. That stuff went everywhere. Yuck. I haven’t dipped in 3 days. Thankfully, the snuff is taking care of my nicotine needs.
i don’t see swallowing a little snuff as a big worry it seems to me that as safe as snuff seems to be that it shouldnt cause too much harm. After all it is only a plant and i eat those everyday
right on josh !
OK as posted before, I would update you when my free sample from getsnus.com arrived. It is here and it is in my mouth. General white portion, that is. The taste is not unpleasant. I am only now starting to feel a little buzz, and its been in about 10 minutes. Haven’t smoked or snuff for awhile in order to get the full experience. I’m having a hard time just letting it sit there. I’m trying to resist the urge to squeeze it with my lip. What is normal? Also I’m tending to burp a bit.
Pushing on the lip squeezing the portion is acceptable, I do it. Also swallowing tobacco juice can cause indigestion on some people especially on a empty stomach & those not use to it. You may find it better to occasionally take a sip of liquid while its in your lip till you get more use to it.
yeah, i have been drinking tea the whole time. The heat of the tea helps too.
I don’t know if this happens with snus, but back when I used to use dip I’d get heartburn and acid reflux every now and then. Might be something to watch for. Maybe keep some Tums on hand just in case.
A lot of that problem (not all) is caused by the actual spitting of saliva especially if your dipping a lot & spitting the whole time. Your stomach & throat need that saliva, it helps to keep stomach acid down. I would occasionally have the same problem on heavy dipping days especially if I went long periods without eating or drinking anything.
The acid reflux is the main reason I stopped dipping. It became chronic and unbearable.
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Trout, That makes sense about excessive spitting. Never considered that but now that I use snuff instead there’s no need to worry about it. I still spit when I get drainage but not nearly as much as I used to with dip or chew. I burned out quick on chew since it just didn’t seem to hold its flavor long enough and tore the heck out of my mouth.
I too quit dipping due to the terrible heartburn, I was getting it 3-4 times a day. Snus gives me a little heartburn occasionally, but nothing like what I got with the dip. I still dip and chew on occasion, especially when I’m hunting or fishing when snuffing isn’t practical, but 99% of my tobacco use now is snuff.
I’m trying the camel frost for the first time. in fact just got it today. I wasn’t a dipper before or bandit user and I don’t think this stuff will convert me. I’ll finish the tin and it’s back to just the nasal snuff for me.