Philip, thank you for passing along the wine bottle idea: genius that is! Dark glass, airtight seal, and just a touch eccentric, for this day and age anyhow. Whenever I read of the prodigious consumption of snuff by the ancients my mind boggles: seven pounds a month!!! How is it possible? At least I can imagine what colour Napoleon’s vest was, or the front of it at least.
Its not possible. That myth was busted about 6 months ago with another historical article. An eyewitness said that Napoleon usually just smelled the snuff and then let it drop to the ground. Someone will hopefully remember where it is hidden in the snuffhouse archives and bump the thread which lists the source.
And as head of state, I would guess that quite a bit was given away - it was after all the pre-eminent form of tobacco use and doubtless favoured generals and the like were given it. Queen Victoria is on record - a few decades later - of giving snuff as gifts to visiting statesmen so it was clearly the done thing.
@Xander: I believe that you are thinking of this thread: [url]http://snuffhouse.org/discussion/1002/[/url]
I have a question (and I don’t want to hear about napoleon or anybody requiring roman numerals after there names, I mean people here or at least anyone you have personally known) has anyone here actually ever so far really used up any one 2 lb tub of snuff? how about a 250g tub? or even 100g or a 50g tub? how many here have actually even used up a whole 1.15 oz American Scotch (or what ever that slightly smaller but close F&T HDT can size is) just by sniffing it (not oral dipping gobs from a lid, tasting it etc are allowed but I mean really by just sniffing it)? and if you have used up even one, or more than one, then how many of these have you used up? Seriously.
Well, of course. I’ve gone through many 1lb tubs (I don’t think 2lb tubs exist) and I’m sure there are several others who will have done so too. PhilipS for instance recently said that he goes through four and a half pound tubs in eight months.
Fred Stoker’s smallest quantity for sale is 2 pounds. They also offer a 4 pound (though it may just be two 2 pound tubs). If they had any clue that their snuff is being used nasally, they might sell it in smaller units.
Hmm, at 5 grams / day, I could consume a pound of snuff in 90 days.
All the time. I buy snuff in half pound tubs from WoS, use it all up, buy another. I never noted how long it takes, but probably something like Xander - or a touch longer given that I will be using other types as well. I remember thinking it would be impossible to use one of those little top mill tins because the pinches I took were so imute when I started and the level just never seemingly went down. I could without any trouble at all empty one of those in a day now.
I use about 25gto 30g a month because I use several other forms of tobacco, but that means I use about 350 grams a year. 450g is a pound, so yes many people use pounds.
this (what everyone is saying) is very helpful actually… including the ‘450g is a pound’ information (I was wondering, that puts it in more perspective)… and… I’m not nearly as ready for “Tobaccogedden” as I thought I was…
I think I’m ready for “Tobaccogedden” even if we aren’t threatened by those sorts of laws in the EU. At least not yet.
I’ve always figured that if society crashes (not just tobaccogedden but arrmogedden) my lack of nicotine combined with everything else would definatly put into a feral head space. Which would probably help my survival. I’am not kidding at all when I say the following when people talk about geddens my first thought is what will I do for tobacco???
@ermtony I wonder if you might be effected… what if you want American-made tobacco, but America is no longer allowed to send any out? are the days of Brits (etc) sniffing Rooster (etc) also in danger from this too?
@bob you know I’ve been doing very very good at not falling into 'stress-induced smoking as a result of this or that personal catastrophe ’ (the thing that has tripped me up usually was about every week or two, but lately I’ve had a few weeks and even a few personal catastrophes and I’m STILL not smoking, even wearing off the snus)… but I think the world ending, a bright light and a lot of rubble etc… well that might be the stressor that does me in, and makes me smoke, at least one… (THEN I hope I’d go back to what I HOPE by or before then will be a sizable stash of snuff!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3CmXGKXOmk
Quite possibly we may be unable to buy American snuffs any more, but I much as I enjoy them I think I can live with that if it happens. BTW, I’m sure it’s still an option for you lot to reaffirm your allegiance to the crown and then all the bollocks will probably just vanish!
I admit a few years back used to fly the British flag on the fourth of July just to annoy people (and because I a huge Beatles fan and as a result sorta love all things British). I would not mind (especially with the way things are going) becoming part of Britain again (but as long as law abiding people can carry guns, I don’t have one but I am coming to understand much better in these later years why that’s very important that we be able to) I also think you guys get taxed to death too over there but it seems at least you guys are using it more wisely than we are and maybe just aren’t so… nutty as we’re getting to be here.
@ Walrus1985, snuffster, et al Anyone who argues that Wilson’s 450 gram containers are airtight and will keep snuff fresh indefinitely has never seen one, at least the ones they use nowadays. The look nothing like they do in the pictures. They are large, thin plastic containers with flip tops on them, unlike the much more robust 260 gram containers. All the bulk snuff I bought in the large containers will have to be transferred to something else suitable for long term storage, and airtight storage containers aren’t cheap. Not good.
ermtony@ I can drive 3 miles to my local grocery store and they have 11 varieties of American scotch snuff in the 5+ oz containers for under $14 dollars each. Granted no Rooster, or Levi, but If I can buy it, I can ship it. Rest assured that our fellow ISTA members will always have access to American scotches, just a whisper away actually. No worries.
@Ermtony: LOL, no thanks. As much respect as I have for your country, I love my own too much. I personally, as a son of veterans, would NEVER fly any other flag. If I were to do that I might as well spit on my heritage.