ettan los packs well and delivers nice nicotine and flavor, and the beauty of snus of course is no spitting … anyway, ettan los is natural, wonderful tobacco with chocolate untertones … i am in the minority on Oden’s, though, i found it to be way too peppery and didn’t find the tobacco to rise past it. Good for 22mg of nicotine, no burn … but just not my speed, flavor-wise. I am looking forward to trying Extreme Kanel, though, No. 59 … i think the cinnamon will do that snus some good.
I’m for snus because it’s so discrete. As you say, no spit. I’m becoming quite confident at snuffing nasal snuff in coffee shops and so on. However, I’m not sure that this is a good thing. The more people who see me openly using nasal snuff, the more people, in my view, will be tempted to tell me that it is a wicked thing to do, for one reason or another. I have just taken another pinch of the straight cope. Definately need my tea with this one. The flavour settles down after a while, but I think it must be snus for me. Twist is lovely but I can see that people who are used to this level of adulteration in their tobacco would find that unbelievably plain. Cope does pack a punch. Re Oden’s I find that just one puff of my pipe with this in my mouth is an immediate overdose.
Cope has 24mg Nic and Odens extreme has 22mg. so the dose is close. edm
P-- As a long-time, former, Cope user, I second (or 3rd or 4th?) the comments here. When I needed a new tin, but regular Cope was unavailable I would unhappily settle for the long-cut. A different animal. Also–after a while I found that I wasn’t spitting with regular Cope. Hell, I began using it as an alternative to leaf so I could do it with class in class.
@petersuki: No problem. Just let me know when you are ready. I haven’t really used dip in like 10 or 15 years, and in those days there were not so many flavors. Regular Copenhagen was what I used most of the time. It does have a bit of geranium in it, but its mostly plain. They didn’t have “straight” in those days. Technically it was the first thing I actually tried to snuff, as in nasally. That was rather a painful experience.
Xander, thanks, - now snuffing this stuff WOULD be a handful. Still you’ve placed the idea in my head… Least-Weasel. You know a heck of a lot more than I do about this stuff. I don’t take that huge face boggling pinch. I take a snus portion amount, stick it in the lower side of my gob and use a gallons of tea and no spit. Seems to work OK.
No, not the stuff you have. The traditional Copenhagen (fine cut) is actually much finer and could actually be used nasally. It might even be a finer cut than Taxi or Ntsu, though I’ve never seen them side by side.
Sounds like you might conduct an experiment to see whether, with the experience you now have, trad Cope is a viable nasal snuff. I tried dipping Rooster, I think I lacked a stick or something - now that WAS a disaster. I’ll get back to you when I’ve checked out plugs and twists in the US. I am reasonably confident that I don’t want anything that’s been anywhere near molasses or sugar. I might be open for a deal with some one in the UK who wants to try his/her tobacco with sugar, molasses and liquorice (and perhaps other unamed agents) and doesn’t want to wait six weeks to get their hands on it.
If you don’t want sugar in your tobacco, you will want to avoid most of the U.S. plugs, as they are heavily sauced with molasses to the point of stickiness. If there is a natural plug out there, I have never encountered it.
There are some unflavored twists though, Cottonboll being one example.
Tybalt Thanks for the advice. You’ve saved time and money. I’ll look into Cottonboll straight away. Generally I’m always on the look out for the stuff that has not had a lot of processing.
You might want to check out lilbrown.com. They have one of the better online inventories american smokeless products, and they ship internationally.
Oh, one additional thought: most American looseleaf chewing tobaccos are heavily sweetened, but there are a couple that are plain. The ones that I am aware of are Mail Pouch and Havanna Blossom, although there may be others. The well known ones such as Redman and Beechnut have a lot of sugar.
I think sweetening is unecessary, but then I don’t put sugar into tea or coffee. I found a 32 dollar bag of Cotton Boll but have been unable to find any review. I wonder how it compares with Kendall Twists. These are the last remaining twists in the UK as far as I know. There is no serious noticeable attempt to sweeten the ones which I have tried though I have avoided things like apple and other flavours. I like the dark unpromising taste of natural tobacco. It occurs to me that a person who used a lot of Cope Straight would be consuming a huge amount of sugar whatever else. The effect on teeth and gums would be a double whammy. If as you say sweetening is almost universal then I can rule all these out without any further bother.
We’ve got several contacts in the American moist snuff industry, and believe me when I say that there’s not one brand of dip (aside from the Swedish Match/Pinkerton brands) that doesn’t use a quantity of sugar in their recipe, although it’s nowhere near as much as chewing tobacco. All of the Copenhagen flavors have hickory and molasses in the mix, and even the Swedish Match brands use artificial sweeteners. Americans simply do not go for tobacco that isn’t sweetened to some degree. So while there’s no such thing as “plain tobacco-flavored moist snuff” on the American market, you can always go Swedish and order some Ettan or Göteborgs Prima Fint. Those two brands are the purest products I can think of in that they consist of nothing but tobacco, water and salt. However, if you want to try 100% pure, flavorless snuff that doesn’t even contain salt, I can give you some snus next time I make a batch and just leave out the flavoring. It tastes like dirt and kicks like a mule on PCP. Mick and I had some in Sweden that came straight from the oven and it was so strong in nicotine that I almost puked off of a dime-sized kernel 
Interesting stuff Snuffpub. Hickory, yes, some flavour like that with the molasses and the sugar. These are not tastes I’m used to. You know, I’ve almost decided that I’ll just stick to Odens for the kick and a bit of twist for the flavour and regular boost of nick. Apparently it doesn’t get better than that, - though I might try the Ettan. Your snuff experiments sound interesting too. PM me when you are brewing!
Cotton Boll twist is air cured green river burley (I believe I read this somewhere but not sure where). It is pure tobacco taste, and it has none of the dark fired or sugar taste. It has a strong natural tobacco taste.
Sounds like the one I must have to try. Thanks. I think everything else I can disregard then. Thanks all for your info.
I’d be happy to send you a twist or two. I bought 12 of them from lil browns a few months ago. You can PM me your address.
My own experience was that once you go to traditional Copenhagen (fine cut), there is no turning back. Took me 20yrs to convert to snuff, a choice Im happy with. You will like the Cope-fine cut. Its made to be liked 
… and much less sugar too!