Chewing Tobacco and Moist Snuff

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This post is more for the non-US members.

I have found a source of US chewing tobacco and moist snuff. I would like to solicit opinions as to which you would like to try. I will pick only 10 to experiment with (ie the vagaries of getting it to the UK), so whichever comes out tops…

Also consider the price. I will break it down on a per pouch basis, though obviously I would be sending over several hundred tins/pouches. 

Here is how it works: I send it over a $4 a pouch plus $1 shipping. HMRC will Add these two numbers together before they start. So, $5. Call it GBP3. Excise applies at GBP79 per Kg. A 3oz pouch is for the sake of argument 75g. Add GBP5.92. Subtotal: GBP8.92. Now add customs duty at 40.6%; new total GBP12.52. Now add to that VAT. New total GBP15.05. That’s cost remember. So now add on 20% profit: GBP18.06. 

The question is, would any body be willing to pay GBP18.06 for 75g of tobacco?

I find it incredible that on a GBP3 bag of baccy you have to pay the government GBP12. But it is what it is.

Here are your options for Chewing Tobbaco. I will post the Moist Snuff later:

Apple Jack Chewing Tobacco  

] Apple Sun Thin Chewing Tobacco  

 Beech-Nut® Wintergreen Loose Leaf 3 Oz Pouch  

 Beech-Nut® Original  

 Bloodhound Thick  

 Black Maria 2lb Chew  

 Bowie Chewing Tobacco  

 Bull Of The Woods 2.1 Oz Brick  

 Cannon Ball Chewing Tobacco  

 Chattanooga Chewing Tobacco Durango® Loose Leaf 3 Oz Pouch  

 Granger Select Chewing Tobacco  

 H.B Scott Chewing Tobacco  

 J.D Blend Chewing Tobacco 

Lancaster Chewing Tobacco

 Levi Garrate Chewing Tobacco 

Levi Garrate Plug  Morgan Chewing Tobacco  

 Peachy Chewing Tobacco  

 Red Man Chewing Tobacco  

 Red Man Plug  

 Red Man Select Chewing Tobacco  

 Red Man Gold Chewing Tobacco  

 Red Man Silver Chewing Tobacco  

 Southern Pride Chewing Tobacco  

 Stoker’s Butternut Chewing Tobacco  

 Starr Chewing Tobacco 3 Oz  

 Starr Peach Chewing 3 Oz Tobacco  

 Sun Cured #2 Chewing Tobacco  

 Tennessee Chew® Loose Leaf Original 16 Oz.Pouch 

 Tennessee Chew® Loose Leaf Original 8 Oz. Pouch 

 Trophy® 2 Pouch Loose Leaf 3 Oz Pouch  

 Taylor Pride Chewing Tobacco 

Taylor Pride Plug 

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I suspect the price might render this unworkable. I chew and would buy the occasional packet - probably about as often as I get someone in the US to send me one right now, which is a couple of times a year on average. I just wonder, in the current climate, whether you would get any return. I think this is a great idea - which is what we expect of you - but I don’t see it flying off the shelves.

Would a better option not be to invest in some British chewing tobacco? It clearly works for Snuffstore and, whilst still expensive, I would think you would get the stock for far less. And, we do have fantastic home grown chewing tobacco.

Either way, you can put me down for a couple of packs. But there lies the rub - a couple.

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I am just one customer and not a business man so take this for what its worth, but to add to what @snuffster said, and I am in the US, I’ve always wanted to try some British chewing tobacco. Although I do not use oral tobacco very often, I would still like to try some of the British stuff for curiosities sake. I do plan on making a large snuff purchase around christmas and if you had some , say Oliver Twist, I’d throw a tin in the cart. I also plan on throwing a can of makla, Poschls chema, and maybe a “twist” from gawith hoggarth or sammy gawith.

The fact that snuffstore.co.uk carried the Oliver Twist made me consider them for my next tobacco purchase but since snuff is my mainstay and MrSnuff has a superior assortment (along with some different oral tobaccos i’ve never tried but want to, ie makla, poschls oral tobacco,and the indian ones) I will be ordering from you.

I’m not sure what the laws are but if you carried something like a General Snus, you’d probably be able to sell some of that too.

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@jbruckus - The Gawith twist is about it, for British, the Malka, Oliver Twist, Chema, whole different animal. These chews mentioned by Dave are the only products I can buy locally, and dirt cheap, so it figures I have no interest in them, although the Stokers was worthy. Just too many health risks associated with constant use.

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I don’t mean to hijack, but I wouldn’t mind seeing some Oliver Twist in the lineup.

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@Whalen , I’ve never had a “twist” tobacco, so I wanted to try some. I know i’ve seen a few other brands of English oral tobacco on other sites, aside from the Oliver, Hoggarth, and Sam Gawith. I’ve tried just about all those American chews though, they really aren’t my thing anymore. Most are very sweet. I agree with you about the health risks. I realize the maklas, poschls chema, and the indian ones are different than british twists and american chew, which is why I’d like to try it ,if only once, out of curiosity. Used to love some fresh los snus too but is too pricey these days.

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I think Oliver Twist is a Danish product. Often you can find it in the US at cigar and pipe shops. Expensive for what you are getting.

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There are some nice one in this list, that is for sure. I second on the health risks on constant use, thus i try not to use too much of it these days and it´s fucking expensive anyway since i am in Germany. The Cannon Ball and the Black Maria are both maybe the best plugs i ever had, had just to add this. :wink:

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I would love to have a retailer that sells american chewing tobacco marked as “nasal snuff” on the declaration form. For some reason SNUS or ORAL TOBACCO do get raped by the canadian customs but so far Nasal snuff goes right through! Depending on the price I would become an occasional at worst, or a regular at best, customer.

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I think his major concern is the price, would you buy it at £18 (or $30 give or take)??

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I’d probably give the Redman and Beech-Nut a go, if I have the money to spare.

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Under $4 a pouch most days here.

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Grimm Triepel Kruse, Chewing strips, turning up at My Smoking Shop.  Anyone tried it? 

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@petersuki I had a bunch of them last year. Seems to me like way bigger and rougher version of Oliver Twist. It´s a traditional german chewing tobacco made by the sole remaining producer here.

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Thanks.  I might give some a go…

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Would love to buy Swedish snus from a middleman which i would use as chewing tobacco - made clear  of its change of useage as chewing tobacco by having labels stuck on it saying ‘for chewing only’ by the retailer…

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Thanks for the input.

I will get some Oliver Twist for sure. It has been on my list for ages.

@Snuffster: I carry every British Chew I can find. I there are 40 different Twists. Maybe it is confusing having them under the Twist category rather than chewing tobacco. Or are you referring to something else?

Dave

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The UK chew is all fire-cured isn’t it so more TSNAs?

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Wow Mr Snuff - quite a proposition.

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David - just me not knowing whats on your site:)