@JakartaBoy I take your points. I will see what if anything we can do to modify the way reviews are done and let you know if we succeed.
Thanks guys.
@Abraxas, Nigel, Like so many of us here, I tout your snuff at every opportunity.
I don’t really like the idea of having reviews merged with an online vendor. It just strikes me that there is too much room for abuse by the vendor, no offense intended to vendors. There is nothing to stop the vendor from only selecting positive reviews in order to boost sales. Why would a vendor ever want to have a negative review on a product they are trying to sell? Despite what I just said, I salute Mr Snuff for their reviews and actually having product specifications. I could ramble on, but it wouldn’t add to the discussion.
@JakartaBoy I take your points. I will see what if anything we can do to modify the way reviews are done and let you know if we succeed.
@MrSnuff, I was thinking about it, it wouldn’t be that hard. You could more or less leave the website as it is, but have a “review index page” with brands, names, alphabetical order. So, one website, but two entry points. For the people who think of MrSnuff mainly as a retailer, they’d go in the same front page as usual. For the people who thought of it more as a review site, they’d go in from the index page. I guess I could register two names, one for purchasing and the other for reviewing, and log in accordingly. But you’d probably need to have two different email addresses (that’s okay, I’ve got lots!). All just about making it easy for people to leave reviews without shopping, if they don’t want to. If it became the premier snuff review site, though, you’d probably get a lot of people who began by thinking they just wanted to read the reviews becoming customers when they realized that the product was just a few clicks away.
@DilligafB you are right to be skeptical but the ONLY reviews we remove are abusive one liners that are not actually reviews. Any review, and by that I mean a considered opinion, whether positive or negative go live. I have no interest in trying to pretend all snuffs are wonderful since as we can see on this forum opinions are completely varied. The more reviews we have the better. Having just one review of a product is almost as bad as having none. You can only really make a judgement when 4 or more people contribute. Then you can get a balance of sorts. If they are all negative then clearly it is either not good or very much niche. That is good for everybody to know including us. There is no point selling a snuff that nobody likes. It just takes up shelf space and costs us money for no good reason. Given the above philosophy I think the ideal place to have reviews is the same place you buy the product. That way you are not switching back and forth between websites.
I don’t understand why extensive reviews couldn’t be hosted on Snuffhouse.org
Whatever the powers that be decide upon, I am very happy that the database of snuffreviews.com will not be lost. Please do all that you can to preserve it for us. It has been a valuable reference for me and I would hate to see it go. Thank you. I hope it all works out soon.
I don’t have the slightest doubt that if the Mr Snuff site was used as the place for reviews that they would be dealt with with integrity. I do doubt the capacity to manage any great number of them though - it’s not what the site is made for. It seems ludicrous to me that the major body of reviews for our hobby should be on a retailers site, period - with no offense to anyone at Mr Snuff intended. If it’s a question of moderating a new section then there are any number of members that could do it if the current mods are not available. Snuffhouse is now the only major site online devoted to snuff - it always will and always does outlast the others. The reviews should be here.
FWIW, a couple of months ago I vacuumed a local copy of the whole (snuffreviews.com) site. For two reasons, really. The site was always down when I personally needed it, and of course more importantly, that the reviews wouldn’t be lost. I know that there’s always the waybackmachine, but still.
@MrSnuff Glad to hear it! I’d be happy to post reviews as I try snuffs but only if I can easily do it under a pseudonym. Even with a fairly common name like mine I am not interested and plastering it across a snuff site, no offense. I look forward to buying more snuff from you!
Take a look at Tobacco Reviews. Chuck has done a wonderful job formatting the site, making it comprehensive and user friendly. I’m on there daily. A similar site for snuff would be welcome. http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/
So… Are we going to ever have access to the snuffreviews database again, in any form? Or is it lost to us now and irretrievable? I am getting a bit concerned…
@lunecat We’d have to contact the owner, and I’m in no position to do so, to find out if he’s agreeable. Good idea though. Perhaps the ownership here can make the first move?
speaking of reviews, I’ve tried several times to search for a snuff on mrsnuff in the reviews section without success. Is it possible or am I missing something? Using the search box just delivers the product page.
We need to get the data from snuffreviews.com back online. Many of us put a lot of time into getting reviews on there and it is really not appropriate if the site owner doesn’t want to keep the site going not to at least make backups available.
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