@Justin LMAO. Jockey Club. Perhaps that will be the cure for Ebola. Sounds like SP No. 1 is a key to longevity. I went through a few years when I did that, Tom Buck and a few others almost exclusively. HDT made an appearance every few hours, but… Might have to go back and try it again. It seems to have some benefits.
When I first heard about snuff back in the 60’s it was presented as a sort of ‘foppish’ habit by certain European Gentlemen. I knew little at the time but certainly wanted to give it a try. after all if it was good enough for them then why not me. Roll forward a bit and I had my first go with Packard’s Club and was smitten by the low price point and the instant rush. I was going about singing the praises when the inevitable happens, you know, its like Niagara Falls from my nose. Here I am singing the praises and trying to get my friends to give it a whirl when the brown nose drip begins. So through my mind goes the thought about those certain European Gentlemen - so this is what the upper crust like. Well works for me…
When I first heard about snuff back in the 60’s it was presented as a sort of ‘foppish’ habit by certain European Gentlemen. I knew little at the time but certainly wanted to give it a try. after all if it was good enough for them then why not me. Roll forward a bit and I had my first go with Packard’s Club and was smitten by the low price point and the instant rush. I was going about singing the praises when the inevitable happens, you know, its like Niagara Falls from my nose. Here I am singing the praises and trying to get my friends to give it a whirl when the brown nose drip begins. So through my mind goes the thought about those certain European Gentlemen - so this is what the upper crust like. Well works for me…
@chefdaniel I was born in 1971, so you’ve been doing this for pretty much as long as I’ve been alive… One gentleman I know who is well into his 70s can probably beat you - I suspect he has passed the 50 year mark on a diet of SP No.1. I think you’re right about the colds. They were absolute hell when I smoked, but since I have gone back to snuff they have diminished in both frequency and severity. I reckon it’s the perfume in my Jockey Club. Those cold germs just can’t cope with it!
I was born in the early 90s so imagine how I feel lol. Specifically 1994. I’m probably the youngest here by the sound of things
I have bought into the elitist bullshit when it comes to beer, whisk(e)y, and cigars, however, never when came/comes to snuff. I’m a microbrew prick, yet I love my Toque and (gasp) even kind of like sliver dollar. I do want to try SWS etc. , however, toque quit and vanilla will always be favorites of mine. Like the snuffs you like and relinquish your fear of judgement. Damn, now I have the urge to place another order with toque.
I love having my own little collection of snuff that I know for a fact will be untouched. I don’t think it’s an elitist thing; however, I do enjoy the exclusivity that it sort of portrays. Also @Cigshurtmylungs '95 here lol.
I love having my own little collection of snuff that I know for a fact will be untouched. I don’t think it’s an elitist thing; however, I do enjoy the exclusivity that it sort of portrays. Also @Cigshurtmylungs '95 here lol.
Damn you just had to show me up!
I have bought into the elitist bullshit when it comes to beer, whisk(e)y, and cigars, however, never when came/comes to snuff. I’m a microbrew prick, yet I love my Toque and (gasp) even kind of like sliver dollar. I do want to try SWS etc. , however, toque quit and vanilla will always be favorites of mine. Like the snuffs you like and relinquish your fear of judgement. Damn, now I have the urge to place another order with toque.
What do you mean by elitist @Peter77? If I were forced to use that kind of divisive language, I would say that I think Toque snuff is quite elitist due to its exceptionally high quality, along with some of the Dholakia snuffs as well (that includes some of their Temptation, Wow, and FUBAR offerings). And oh yeah, don’t forget Old Mill snuffs. @chefdaniel strives for the highest possible quality. What an elitist bastard he is becoming. :D/ How dare these snuff makers who have so much gall and arrogance that they seek to rise above their competition and produce the finest quality snuff possible. We should boycott all of them. Long live mediocrity! That’s what we need more of in life! Hell yeah! 
Let’s try to avoid “anti-elitist elitism.”
@fredh To the best of my knowledge my parents were married, but I could be wrong…I was born at a very early age and my memories have faded over time. A boycott of Old Mill will force me to dispose of my entire inventory. Right up my nose. A fate worse than, oh let’s see, winning the lottery, having Angelina Jolie along for a mustache ride, being remembered in Bill Gates’ last will and testament and/or a nice glass of single malt right before bed. =))
i still sing the praises of F&T it is the best IMHO
Low brow…Meh…Try drug store pipe tobacco ground up and left in a ziplock bag…Its all good, except after awhile, the casing in the tobacco starts to really mess with ya.
This thread is taking a turn for the hilarious. “Anti-elitist elitism?” Is that the opposite of reverse snobbery, or is reverse snobbery an apposite term for your new concept? @fredh, to quote the Firesign Theatre, “we’re all bozos on this bus.” Let’s all agree that our addiction is freakishly odd to begin with, embrace our inherent weirdness, and not sweat the petty stuff. Or pet the sweaty stuff. I could honestly care less what any of you are sniffing. The fact that you are sniffing makes us compatriots.
I am definitely one of the bozos @Malatesta, but that doesn’t change anything that I said. What I said stands.
“Oh, hot dog! Groat cakes again. Heavy on the 30 weight, Mom.” Porgy Tirebiter Porgy and Mudhead in High School, 1956 Firesign Cinema Feature Production Company and Breakfast Emporium
I don’t disagree with anything you said, @fredh. What you said can certainly stand. I laugh at the terminology. I laugh at the fact that, ever since A Sophisticate Like Myself on the old a.s.p. boards, there has been a basic inability for partakers in tobacco to just sit back and let the other fellow like what he damned well likes. I like ancient Peterson’s, with british scented virginia flakes. Doesn’t matter to me that someone else bought a Bo Nordh and only smokes xxz tobacco. And @chefdaniel, “Hello, seeker!”
A.S.P. eh, @Malatesta? So are you going to tell me, “Snuff what you like; like what you snuff”? 
Just kidding. But that hackneyed and tired expression converted from the pipe world (as it is normally applied to pipe smoking) has been used quite enough. It is now a cliché. I am happy to know you like Petersons. They are great pipes and I respect you for it. OF COURSE we all want each other here on Snuffhouse to enjoy what they like. And 99% of the people here on Snuffhouse do not try to make converts to particular brands and I think I am being accurate when I say that I think the folks here would not react favorably if someone were to say that we “_ should _” like this or that snuff. In fact, in the past year I don’t remember anyone ever doing that. But we all express our opinions. One guy might condemn menthols and the next guy might glorify them. But in the end, it seems to me that we all are individuals and fiercely independent. I agree with you in saying that we should be tolerant of each othr. If a guy likes menthols, or florals, more power to him. Just as in the pipe world, if a guy likes aromatics, or latakia, more power to him, after all, in the big picture, we all like pipes or snuff as the case may be. Snuffhouse is not like the old ASP, which I was on back in the late 1990s which became so petty I had to leave. And it is not like SmokersForum which is popular now in the pipe world. People here can actually express their likes and dislikes , courteously and respectfully here without repercussions or comeuppances of the type you see from the moderators on Smokers Forums, where one is, for the most part, not allowed to say anything negative or disagree with the majority in any significant way. I should know, I have (that is, had) a long history fighting that kind of idiocy and lack of respect for freedom including SF. I have seen threads on Snuffhouse that would never fly on Smokers Forums the difference being that here the mods watch them closely and deal with them in a highly rational fashion, unlike SF. They have yet to make a decision that I did not think was wise, but that’s just me. I have found the people here on Snuffhouse to be intelligent and thoughtful. And if, for example, @jeffcraft1 wants to say that he thinks F&T is the best snuff out there. More power to him for expressing his viewpoint. I think it is great. After all, if a snuff time capsule were ever constructed for the future of humanity, we all know that F&T HDT, at the least, would be among those eternal classics. So yeah, I am hoping that we on Snuffhouse never get to the reverse snobbery or the reverse elitism that I have seen run rampant in other forums. That was behind my post that seemed to be amusing to you. If you think my language is laughable, I am happy I made somebody laugh. But to me, any kind of snobbery or elitism, reverse or otherwise, poisons the interchange of ideas. I have seen it happen in my pipe hobby and in my profession. I hope you agree.
I have bought into the elitist bullshit when it comes to beer, whisk(e)y, and cigars, however, never when came/comes to snuff. I’m a microbrew prick, yet I love my Toque and (gasp) even kind of like sliver dollar. I do want to try SWS etc. , however, toque quit and vanilla will always be favorites of mine. Like the snuffs you like and relinquish your fear of judgement. Damn, now I have the urge to place another order with toque.
What do you mean by elitist @Peter77? If I were forced to use that kind of divisive language, I would say that I think Toque snuff is quite elitist due to its exceptionally high quality, along with some of the Dholakia snuffs as well (that includes some of their Temptation, Wow, and FUBAR offerings). And oh yeah, don’t forget Old Mill snuffs. @chefdaniel strives for the highest possible quality. What an elitist bastard he is becoming. :D/ How dare these snuff makers who have so much gall and arrogance that they seek to rise above their competition and produce the finest quality snuff possible. We should boycott all of them. Long live mediocrity! That’s what we need more of in life! Hell yeah!
<\blockquote> Let me explain by saying that comment was not directed towards snuff producers. As I stated I want to try some of the higher end snuffs. I never once stated that a particular blender as being elitist. What I was referring to is a mentality of snobbery. Quality can be found at any price range when it comes to snuff. I think I should have done a better job expounding upon my point of view, because it seems as if it could be easily misinterpreted. However, the main target in that comment was not quality, price tag, or even any snuff producers, but rather mentality that had corrupted other hobbies that I do not want tainting the snuff community.
I don’t participate elsewhere, @fredh, so I can’t comment on SF. Don’t think for a moment I was ever laughing at you. Language amuses me. Language used well is wit. When I see a well-crafted phrase, I smile, play with it, roll it around my tongue. There is humor in your terminology and I find it hard to believe it was completely unintentional–that turn of phrase was crafted. Anti-elitist elitism captures the absurdity of the viewpoint you are mocking. I salute that. I was also laughing at the potential for any snobbery/reverse snobbery anywhere in this form of tobacco use. Snuff is so overwhelmingly affordable compared to my Comoy or Charatan collecting days. I can get a months supply for roughly 40 dollars. If I went crazy on on the one-man operation snuff makers, I might spend 75. Compare it to the price of any vice. That would be a weeks worth of cigarettes at this point. Maybe two weeks of pipe tobacco. I guess I just don’t see the potential for the “Everyman” snuff vs the snuff of the gilded aristocrat. If my tastes differ from yours or anyone else’s, of course I might raise a eyebrow. Heck, I might think you’re crazy. (I’m looking at you, chili spice sniffers). I certainly wouldn’t say “snuff what you like and like what you snuff.” The phrase, is, as you say, hackneyed; however, I can say it matters not one whit to me what you happen to like. And I’ll read everyone’s posts with pleasure-I already am looking at snuffs I’d have never known existed before. I’m glad there are lone wolves experimenting on the fringes. I’m glad there are relatively large blending houses. Room enough for both.
Yeah, I kind of find it hard to believe there are a lot of elite snuff users any more. As in the distinguished gentlemen you read about. I have to agree with the whole price thing @Malatesta stated. I still see people complaining about prices a lot. Still I have yet to see a can of snuff that is very expensive in relation to other things, pretty much everything is more expensive. I am only referring to what I have read here, because in my 35 years of living, I have yet to meet another person that sniffs tobacco in real life. So, I don’t have a clue what kind of lives an average snuffer lives. I go out and party sometimes, and people get a kick out of it, I try to stay discreet, so people don’t assume i’m hoarding narcotics. But always look at me like im some sort of damn fool snorting tobacco. I’m not so sure I could ever consider snuffing serious in the modern world. Not many people will understand, besides someones grandma.
When I had my own little place, Truffles, in Mill Valley, CA I had the pleasure of living next door to one of my best customers: Senator SI Hayakawa. His given name was Samuel, but everyone called him “Don” for reasons that still baffle me. He had been President of San Francisco State until he got elected (as he said it “erected”). The man was a freaking genius, and his book, Language in Thought and Action is considered The Bible of Semantics. First published a hell of a long time ago, the second edition was even more thought provoking and useful in daily life. I have a worn out copy, autographed, that I still crack open from time to time. Having gone over this thread several times I am over joyed to see energetic, yet civil discussion of a not-so-controversial subject. It is nice to be among folks that share a common interest that feel free to ‘agree to disagree’ without being disagreeable & have thought provoking dialogue and still remain friends. This forum cannot be compared to any other on the interwebs. Snuffhouse, and its members, are truly amazing. And they all act like mature, grown up adults, not over indulged, self absorbed know-it-alls as you find populating other sites. This thread would have intrigued and amused him, and he’d likely kick my ass for starting it if he were still among us. “p.14 We live in a highly competitive society, each of us trying to outdo the other in wealth, in popularity or social prestige, in dress, in scholastic grades or golf scores… One is often tempted to say that conflict, rather than cooperation, is the great governing principle of human life.” http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Language\_in\_Thought\_and\_Action