Nobody seems to be talking about the regular snuff makers anymore. It’s all SWS, Abraxas and Old Mill (if that can be classed as artisan). I’m snuffing Wilson’s Lemon & Lime and it’s delicious, yet nobody is talking about it on here. I noticed Viking Spear uses EXACTLY the same scenting oil as Wilson’s Crumbs of Comfort but nobody talks about these manufacturers anymore. This site has lost its way. I know this won’t be a popular subject but where are the discussions of the major manufacturer’s new snuffs? People here are too focussed on artisan which means noone’s talking about major manufacturers. I even see people slagging off Wilson’s with no rebuttal. Its appalling. Happy snuffing!

I don’t see it that way, I discuss Toque, which happens to be one of my favorite brands, I only have discussed WoS and various others such as GH etc. I enjoy a selection of snuffs from quite a number of manufacturers. I also enjoy the “artisan” snuffs, of which Old mill is indeed a very good one, along with SWS, Abraxas etc. my point is, its a forum, a place to discuss YOUR snuff thoughts and passions, you can post about Wilsons Lemon and Lime, maybe write a small review and I am sure you will get many great comments. People are free to discuss which ever snuffs they wish… Personally I try as many different snuffs as I can , and post about those I enjoy… whatever the manufacturer of those may be, currently its Jocks Choice, not Artisan or expensive, but a dam fine snuff made by GH

I “slag off” brands like Wilson and Pöschl because I see flaws on them, MANY flaws (beginning with imperceptible tobacco base which repeats itself across many snuffs, going on with sneeziness, ending with batch variance). Wilson is still one of my main brands, specially the F&T line which I find far superior in quality to their regular line. My “attacks” are not (can’t be, actually) due to me being infatuated with any of the brands you mentioned: I’ve only tried Abraxas Dragün and, while I like it, it’s not one of my favorites. I don’t see any problem about people talking of these brands: I think it’s both due to a desire to help independent producers and the will to talk about new creations with the occasional input from the artist behind them. It has not been a problem to me when I liked to post about Indian or German snuffs that are currently my main thing, nobody has said to me “hey, shut up, those are industrial!”. If people decide not to join me in conversation, I won’t be so satisfied but it’s their decision, which I respect.

Well, a quick flick through the ‘Types of snuff’ should dispel the notion that no-one talks about anything but artisan snuff. Dholakia, Viking, Toque, Poschl. Try It! Discussions on all of them raging right now, as we speak.

I think it is great that we have a few artisan snuff makers and hope there will be many more in the future. It would be nice to see some more large makers too. Maybe GLP, MacBaren, or Mc Clellan’s may see a future in snuff and get into the game, the more the merrier.

Along with what @JakartaBoy‌ said, the “artisan” snuff makers have released some new snuffs(that are friggin awesome) and bound to spark some discussions on those alone. What I find “appalling” on these forums is the ever increasing hostility towards others opinions on snuff. I have said this before, but take a look at a top snuff post and a least favorite snuff post and notice the how many snuffs make both list. Forums trend, this month it’s the artisans, next we will be talking Toque all the time again, who knows. If you want to talk about other snuffs, than make a constructive post about one or revive an old post. Making a post bitching at what people want to talk about does nothing for this forum, talk of losing its way…

Fellows, I think the original post was tongue in cheek. Let’s talk about some snuff, shall we?

I agree with all of you. You’ve all made some valid points. It does get old hearing about Abraxas/SWS or Toque or whatever. Sometimes you want to talk about/read about your favorite snuff as opposed to the snuff du jour. But that’s the beauty of this forum. You can create your own topics, discuss what you want. A lot of the old snuff manufacturers have been around forever and thus talked about for just as long, the newer snuffs are newer and heralded because it brings new life to our hobby, even though they dare to charge their highway robbery prices. So feel free to get some topics going.

An interesting take on things from my usually quiet wife who just read the thread… "If there is a growing interest in Snuff these days, perhaps the traditional snuff producers who have sat on their laurels for all these years should sit up and take notice of the quality, freshness and batch variance being achieved by the smaller producers … I find it difficult to argue with her to be honest…

I agree on some many levels with your wife @Derek_007‌ While it is a shame that many of us have forgotten about the lesser likes of snuff manufacturers, perhaps they should take notice. While I haven’t forgotten about my favorites, I find it hard to sometimes desire them when I pick up a tin of Old Mill and go to town. I know they have to be booming with new ideas. If someone fresh to the production scene like @chefdaniel can produce snuff the way Zeus produces lightning bolts, why can’t the veterans come up with something fresh and exciting?

Indeed, she may have an interesting point , there is a whole new snuff market out there these days, younger people with cash in their pocket who will spend it in what is best for them, not what as “traditional” perhaps? it is a new world for snuff with the smoking ban , something I feel @Roderick‌ at Toque has really got a grasp of with Toques range of flavours

I have a question for my fellow members regarding this thread, if you would please. Does calling artisan snuffs a “scourge” amount to a kind trolling? According to the dictionary, trolling is defined as “a posting on the Internet intended to provoke an indignant or irritated response in the reader.” Surely, this thread could have been titled in a way more conducive to discussion rather than a kind of attack or condemnation, saying literally that “‘artisan’ snuffs are a scourge.” Does that seem needlessly provocative to you? Once again, according to the dictionary a scourge is defined as “someone or something that causes a great amount of trouble or suffering.” I think it is safe to say that Johnny or Nigel or Daniel, or Roderick, or their snuffs, have not caused any suffering or great amount of trouble. Is the thread title and opening post of this thread an example of trolling? Whether it is trolling or not, the responses to it are highly impressive and another indicator of the high quality of character of Snuffhouse members in that no one has taken the bait and responded with heat or anger. And by the way, I would be willing bet that all or nearly all of the current “non-artisan” snuffs (WoS, SG, GH etc.) started out as artisan snuffs somewhere in the “way back when…” Don’t know the latter for sure but it is just a bet.

The thread does not breach any of the rules of the forum. If it does then the mod team will take the appropriate action. Simply because someone may have another opinion does not mean it’s trolling. If it descends into name calling, and deliberate provoking for a reaction then we will take action. Members have responded in the manner that we would normally expect here, proof that this is still a happy, civilised forum where we can all chat about snuff without resorting to name calling.

I don’t see it that way, I discuss Toque, which happens to be one of my favorite brands, I only have discussed WoS and various others such as GH etc. I enjoy a selection of snuffs from quite a number of manufacturers. I also enjoy the “artisan” snuffs, of which Old mill is indeed a very good one, along with SWS, Abraxas etc. my point is, its a forum, a place to discuss YOUR snuff thoughts and passions, you can post about Wilsons Lemon and Lime, maybe write a small review and I am sure you will get many great comments. People are free to discuss which ever snuffs they wish… Personally I try as many different snuffs as I can , and post about those I enjoy… whatever the manufacturer of those may be, currently its Jocks Choice, not Artisan or expensive, but a dam fine snuff made by GH

All I see these days are newbies posting about a subject they know very little about and with airs and graces. Perhaps you weren’t a member 4 years ago, when truly knowledgablke people were posting. Back then, we were trying to break down the composition of Royal George. Nowadays, nobody talks about Royal George. I just think Wilson’s gets very little respect on here nowadays, which is wrong.

Well, a quick flick through the ‘Types of snuff’ should dispel the notion that no-one talks about anything but artisan snuff. Dholakia, Viking, Toque, Poschl. Try It! Discussions on all of them raging right now, as we speak.

The main snuff makers do get mentioned, of course. But not like they used to, where each and every snuff gets properly analysed. Try and find a good thread on Toque, Ginger, you can’t. Try and find in depth threads of any of the main manufacturers new snuffs. You can’t. Snuffhouse had changed, and not for the better. Its all bleeding artisan now, which I have zero interest in.

@SnuffySnuff‌ if you want to start a discussion on toque ginger, or the new WoS snuffs, then please start a thread on them. Write a review and post it up to get conversation going about them. There is nothing stopping you from doing that.

I have a question for my fellow members regarding this thread, if you would please. Does calling artisan snuffs a “scourge” amount to a kind trolling? According to the dictionary, trolling is defined as “a posting on the Internet intended to provoke an indignant or irritated response in the reader.” Surely, this thread could have been titled in a way more conducive to discussion rather than a kind of attack or condemnation, saying literally that “‘artisan’ snuffs are a scourge.” Does that seem needlessly provocative to you? Once again, according to the dictionary a scourge is defined as “someone or something that causes a great amount of trouble or suffering.” I think it is safe to say that Johnny or Nigel or Daniel, or Roderick, or their snuffs, have not caused any suffering or great amount of trouble. Is the thread title and opening post of this thread an example of trolling? Whether it is trolling or not, the responses to it are highly impressive and another indicator of the high quality of character of Snuffhouse members in that no one has taken the bait and responded with heat or anger. And by the way, I would be willing bet that all or nearly all of the current “non-artisan” snuffs (WoS, SG, GH etc.) started out as artisan snuffs somewhere in the “way back when…” Don’t know the latter for sure but it is just a bet.

I truly wish I were trolling rather than highlighting how the snuff scene had changed in just 4 years. Full of gobby newbies who know f*ck all. But being the newbie you are, having little knowledge, its easy for you to scream troll, rather than understand my point.

what a newb. J.K. it’s always been like that the snuff du jour for dicussing. First o.g. then spanish jewel then toque then indian then on and on it goes

and all my friends drink micro brew oh no

@SnuffySnuff‌ if you want to start a discussion on toque ginger, or the new WoS snuffs, then please start a thread on them. Write a review and post it up to get conversation going about them. There is nothing stopping you from doing that.

Hi skell, I could and have been tempted, but why bother? Nobody here is interested if it’s not artisan. If anyone wants to be pendantic, of course I don’t mean ‘nobody’ literally, I mean ‘nobody’ as in there’s very little interest in the main makers of snuff on here, and that is what has changed about snuffhouse.

Let me say this: Clearly, @SnuffySnuff, you’re not a fan of @chefdaniel just from looking at former posts between the two of you in an older topic. Your jabs at his product are a clear representation of that. You can mask it with civility, but myself, and Daniel are not blind to it. And now, you reduce yourself to name-calling. No matter how you defend it, your use of the word newbie is derogatory and unwarranted. So @fredh has not put in the same time or the same opinion as yourself; Is this not a forum where we all express ourselves differently thus resulting in various opinions? And not only have you defamed his character through the use of the word newbie, you insult his knowledge without truly knowing what he is about. Have you even gone back to read any of his other posts besides the one you quoted?

@SnuffySnuff‌ it will never change unless you do something about it. How do you know that people won’t discuss it unless you start a discussion? As @bob pointed out, it’s what’s popular now, it’s getting people talking. If you’re not interested in the current wave of artisan threads, don’t read them, reignite discussions on what you like. New snuffers will see that and discover the classics and then join the discussion, which will bring the older members back in to offer help.

Aaaaaaaactually I kinda agree with @SnuffySnuff‌ There are people here who would only ever talk about, sniff and buy artisan snuffs. Ive personally bashed wilsons tins, some scents and grind, but in the end a wos became a fav. Elitism, as was discussed in another thread is also present, but once again, the majority isnt like that at all, if it was all that bad, Id be outta here, but I stay cause people are friendly, the artisan snuffmakers are friendly, damn cool, and spend just as much time talking about various brands as their own, and some great manufacturers also use this site. like @Roderick hes the maker of Toque. @chefdaniel doesnt only promote his own snuff either, but will gladly share with you, so you can see what his snuffs are like, just as easily as he will discuss another type of snuff with you. I havent personally tried any of these artisan snuffs, but will prob order some whenever I get around to it, they may just be so awesome you NEED to mention them, like me and poschl… it has become my milestone for all snuffs, all must be compared to it. So while I see where youre coming from, I have to agree and disagree at the same time. The people who will only discuss artisan snuffs are so few its hardly noticeable.

@SnuffySnuff‌ if you want to start a discussion on toque ginger, or the new WoS snuffs, then please start a thread on them. Write a review and post it up to get conversation going about them. There is nothing stopping you from doing that.

Hi skell, I could and have been tempted, but why bother? Nobody here is interested if it’s not artisan. If anyone wants to be pendantic, of course I don’t mean ‘nobody’ literally, I mean ‘nobody’ as in there’s very little interest in the main makers of snuff on here, and that is what has changed about snuffhouse.

@SnuffySnuff‌ Dont mind me, but Id be very interested in reading about diff wos scents, Im currently using mainky wos myself, namely honey menthol and and extra menthol. I may not respond to the thread, but ill keep a mental note of what has been said, and who knows? I may just order whatever is discussed if it sounds good.

First off, the “newbie don’t know shit” attitude can go right the fuck out the window right now. That absolutely is Not what this forum, as far as I have known, to ever be about. Many of us joined after lurking, or even first glance, because of the open-mind and willing to help atmosphere. Just because your favorite maker is not trending atm does not indicate the forums downfall. Those that actually read and follow the forum can see periods of one snuff maker/ type trending at any given time. Not all that long ago I remember the Indians being quite hot, and it wasn’t their first time on this forum. If you love a snuff so much that you want to talk about it, make a post or grab an old one. This is the one forum that the necro thread, if still relevant, has been accepted. If your favorite snuff does not get the attention you think it should, the maybe you are the only one who likes it, which is cool. Chances are that is not the case though if it is still in production, so fell free to discuss it. Not understanding the purpose of this forum(some understanding of the ToS) and shitty attitudes are what will fuck up this nice thing we have.

@SnuffySnuff‌, I can understand your point. Reading the forum while lurking taught me that even though I’d been doing this for a long time, I’d essentially never tried anything. Almost like a one brand smoker. Never branched out. Never tried anything out of my comfort zone. Always used the same two or three snuffs. So now I’m out of my comfort zone and I’m curious. I lurked for about a month, googling things. I learned things from PhilipS that were astounding. The man had tried originals of things I’d never heard of, like that there was a French snuff called Morlaix. You know, I’ve never even met another snuffer, so add that to the mix, too. I’m here to learn. I’m sure I don’t have a single question that hasn’t been asked before. Point me to the threads. Share your knowledge. I’m here to learn and I’m sure there are many others. Doesn’t seem quite fair to blame a fellow for not having the esoteric knowledge you have learned as long as he is willing to be taught. It might be wasted on me, it might not. But I’d at least like to hear it.

It is true that different snuff trend at different times. When I first started lurking, Toque was the number one topic. Then the Indians. @SnuffySnuff‌, to paraphrase Gandhi, be the change you want to see. Write interesting, in depth analysis of McChrystal Smokers Blend or whatever mass produced, proudly plebian snuff you prefer. Write well and interestingly, and the world will come beating a path to your door.

I am increasingly tempted to believe that the original post in this thread is nothing more than trolling. Nothing written in this thread has persuaded me to think otherwise. This entire thread appears to have been started not as a discussion but a thinly veiled attack masquerading as a genuine concern. Do I need to define “trolling” and “scourge” again? For the record, I started using various snuffs, Wilson’s among them, around 1980. That was 34 years ago. And it is true, I am not among the most knowledgeable or the most experienced of snuff users. However, the number of years on Snuffhouse is not indicative of one’s degree of knowledge or experience.

Can I ask a dumb question? Of course, that’s rhetorical, as I’m going to anyway. How many employees do the corporate houses have? I remember reading once that the folks at Sharrow will actually use the ol’ mortar and pestle to make their more rare orders. That doesn’t argue a massive operation. Likewise, I can’t imagine McChrystal’s to be a huge concern. And surely, in any instance, one man, or at most a small team, are involved in the creation and testing of new mixtures anywhere, even if the end result is a man emptying a five gallon bucket of flavoring into x pound of pulverized tobacco. Aren’t all blends the result of so-called “artisan” work? From what I’ve seen (admittedly very, very little), none of the little guys on the edge seem to think they’re real special snowflakes. They don’t claim to be the best. They don’t claim to be the true heirs to their forebears in the industry, they tinker because they like it, and their prices are probably high because they can’t take advantage of economies of scale. Perhaps the actual argument is one of semantics?

@fredh‌, hehe, yes. The little dig about Old Mill was quite entertaining, if a trifle obvious to count as really first rate trolling. @chefdaniel‌ wisely ignored it, depriving the poster of his fun. I guess he can still hope for other reactions from elsewhere.

I have observed a lot of the discussions here tend to be Seasonal, so trouble not, as the Northern hemisphere descends into what is predicted to be a long cold Fall and Winter there will probably a lot of threads involving schmalzlers, Touque Christmas Pudding, Wilson’s Orange Chocolate and the dreaded (except by maybe me) Winter Warmer as well as the ongoing debate over just which medicated snuff is the champ for opening clogged sinuses (for the record it’s WoS SM500).

Buying from the US limits the possibilities that are offered. All (-1)the snuff that I’ve purchased do far are from name companies. and tend to like it that way.

Children, we must behave. Kindness is next to godliness. Or some such. The pangs of birth and evolution are painful. We must be patient, old timers and newbie’s alike. When I arrived on the scene it was WoS crumbs of comfort and now its Johnny-on-the spot SWS with the solid gold tins, nevertheless, it has its place in our sphere of enjoyment. The Old Mill IS divine and has opened my nose to the possibility of better things. Will I cast off my beloved SG KB or Bernards Virginie? Of course not. But we must go with the flow and grow. On a side note, I do believe the originator of the thread was being tongue in cheek. This troll whistling blowing, wheres-the-hallway-monitor stuff is ridiculous as is the arguing and f-bomb dropping. As someone said, you want to talk Toque start a, thread etc, etc. Moderator should close this thread…

We are an enthusiast site. Of course we are going to discuss the latest greatest snuff, be it an “artisan” or factory snuff. I doubt we are very much representative of the whole market. If we were there would be a lot less snuffs available, simply because we aren’t buying them. It’s a lot like pipe tobacco, on the forums, Virginia and Latakia blends get most of the attention, but in the wider market Aromatics carry the day. Ask the average snuffer on the street and I’ll bet they have never heard of Abraxas or SWS or OldMill or DK, or in a lot of cases, Toque. I’m glad we have individuals willing to take the time and effort to produce small quantities of snuff in flavors that the major manufacturers are unwilling to for reasons of cost or marketability. I’m glad those small snuffs are talked about. I can’t afford to buy most of them but I sure like hearing about them. Plus even Wilson’s, GH, SG all started making snuff in the back room of their tobacco shop, and grew. Maybe one day Abraxas will be one of the big boys. Or not. Either way I can be secure in my knowledge that I tried every snuff that interests me, no matter who made it.

Usually I’d put this in the “What’s in your mailbox” thread, but: Wooooo-hoo! My two jars of Abraxas Prince Regent arrived today!

@bigmick‌ well said, old boy.

From a newb: I like the entire spectrum . I have amassed a senseless variety of snuffs so far, from close to 30 tins of Wilsons’, to some dozen of so Toques, an equal share of Old Mill and a tine each from Sir Walter Scott and Abraxas. To me, it’s all good. Sure, the discussion seems to run “streaky” - I noticed that as I spent several nights reading through the treads in the back log, but, as someone who enjoys forums on other topics like home-brewing, spirit making, and lapidary, I can tell you that this phenomenon is common whenever folks seem to congregate around a shared interest. I like this joint. I like that there are old school cats who have been snuffing for as long as I have lived; that there is interest among younger generations, that we seem to have members from literally every corner of the world - yeah - it’s super cool to me. If I had an issue, it seems to have been taken care of whilst I was recently away, and the mods handled that like a boss it appears. Thanks to all - The HP

If someone fresh to the production scene like @chefdaniel can produce snuff the way Zeus produces lightning bolts…

@chefdaniel‌ I didn’t know your Cajun lineage sprung from the heritage of Greek Gods!!! Think it is time you make/name one of your creations Snufficus Maximus or the like! @Kentuckysnuff‌ Admittedly, I love your analogy!!! That true statement made me chuckle out loud. IMHO, be it traditional, artisan, or anything in between; I personally have found a wealth of knowledge and plenty of discussions on all fronts. The vast majority of my collection is traditional scotches, WoS, and SG. I have a few “artisans” which I adore. The vast majority forum members, in my opinion, have and continue to conduct themselves well and discuss ALL aspects of our splendid hobby. I personally welcome all discussions, as long as constructive, on old and new alike.

Well, a quick flick through the ‘Types of snuff’ should dispel the notion that no-one talks about anything but artisan snuff. Dholakia, Viking, Toque, Poschl. Try It! Discussions on all of them raging right now, as we speak.

Yep…and a week or two ago there were several threads running concurrently about Sam Gawith. @willc if GLP ever got into the snuff game, my savings account would dry up in about a week!

Well, a quick flick through the ‘Types of snuff’ should dispel the notion that no-one talks about anything but artisan snuff. Dholakia, Viking, Toque, Poschl. Try It! Discussions on all of them raging right now, as we speak.

@willc if GLP ever got into the snuff game, my savings account would dry up in about a week!

@Idbowman It is curious you should mention that. I have been filling GLP’s ears with snuff talk for a while now, telling him of the various kinds of snuffs from the old traditional names to that of the individual snuff makers. He had only a passing acquaintance with the snuff world until recently.

For the non-pipe smokers among us, who or what is GLP?

GL Pease, an “artisan” pipe tobacco maker in the US. Their Chelsea morning and Lagonda tobaccos are Devine!!

(To be read with tongue in cheek, preferably your own): It’s ‘them’ and ‘us’ - that’s what it is, these artisan snuff sniffer snobs snootily sniffing so-called superior snuff while us working class types have to make do with Wilson & Gawith’s Asbestos Blend, ‘the finest quality a broom can sweep’. I tell you what, come the revolution you lot’ll be the first up against the Wallflower. --------------------------------------------- I enjoy reading about the high quality hand made snuffs available these days, and I think it can only be a good thing that they’re around as it means snuff isn’t dying out or stagnating, but the only ones I’ve tried are Abraxas Premium Batch, Dragun and St Casura, and two of those are about the same price as regular snuff anyway. It’s always a toss up between spending the money on one artisan snuff or almost three Samuel Gawith’s (one Black Coffee, plus two I might not’ve tried yet), and Sam keeps winning. :))

Been enjoying F&T HDT all day, toque whiskey and honey this evening, now off to bed with @chefdaniel‌ ,s Old mill pure Virginia toast . My conscious is clear :). Night all

Snuff what you like, like what you snuff. Snuff said!

Well, a quick flick through the ‘Types of snuff’ should dispel the notion that no-one talks about anything but artisan snuff. Dholakia, Viking, Toque, Poschl. Try It! Discussions on all of them raging right now, as we speak.

@willc if GLP ever got into the snuff game, my savings account would dry up in about a week!

@Idbowman It is curious you should mention that. I have been filling GLP’s ears with snuff talk for a while now, telling him of the various kinds of snuffs from the old traditional names to that of the individual snuff makers. He had only a passing acquaintance with the snuff world until recently.

@fredh His pipe blends are top notch, all the way around. I would have to imagine that the topping he uses in Haddo’s would make for a nice snuff. As to this thread: 1. The defamation of the “newb” is concerning - whether exaggerated for the sake of trollery or not. A larger market increases profitability to the producers (large or small), which increases the selection and availability to the users (new or old), and creates a larger community to share experiences, knowledge, and opinions. Without new blood, this - as with any - hobby would slowly go the way of the buffalo. “Newbs” should never be seen as anything but a sign of growth and an opportunity to further share our mutual interest. 2. Not worth repeating at length, but +1 to all comments in the ballpark of “there will always be a next big thing.” 3. As a snuffer, the topic title and OP are disappointing. The subsequent responses are wonderful.

I’m here I snuff what ever I like and, I don’t care if people feel like talking about fancy snuffs or, cheapies. Too me this is more of a place too let off a little steam and, maybe talk a little snuff.

I am guilty of raving over Artisan Snuff . I like where they are going. I live life daily and my time is limited; I use what I enjoy. But I have a larger than normal horde of snuffs. Not too many in bulk just a few of my favorites. And they all get into rotation. The few of Chef Deans Old Mill creations I tried are like nothing on the market; Definitely worthy of talking about. Snuffhouse will evolve constantly, most of the member when I joined are no longer here and I haven’t been here long. One thing stays constant we behave as gentlemen. I like 60 and 70 hard rock but I also enjoy the new hard rock bands. It is all good.

I have been on the internet since at least the mid-90s, and spent much of the past 20 years active in music forums of various kinds. I think if someone had posted complaining that forum members were talking only about new releases and had stopped daily obsessing about albums that had come out 5-10 years before, they’d have been taken, shall-we-say, not too seriously. Seems to me (as a newbie to this site, but not a newbie to tobacco), that snuffhouse is a home for connoisseurs and adventurers of sensory experience, open to experimentation and innovation in the realm of snuffs. Snuff is not stuck in any point in time, but a continuous, dynamic flow from the time Nicot brought snuff to Catherine de Medici right up to the present moment, and into the future. If we don’t take the past, present, and future of snuff seriously, it will soon just become a museum of the past, with this forum devolving into reminiscence. I love classic snuffs, but I’m also excited by what comes next. And the artisans are the vanguard of these possibilities.

Having just a year under my belt with a return to snuff I can only offer nascent insight to the big picture- for me I have found favor in some of the established brands and will likely stick with those I like, while also venturing into some of the newer ones that may appeal to me.

Sir Walter Scotts snuff, and Old Mill snuff, are my two favorites and most used. Great stuff. Period.

I am a SG man, because of good price and good quality (of their plain snuffs anyway). Also, I am definitely a creature of habit. That being said, I love SWS and Abraxas (I’ve not yet had the pleasure of trying old mill but all of @chefdaniel‌’s snuffs also sound divine) as treats for myself, they are going above and beyond the old guard snuff mills. These artisans are bringing passion and care in crafting into the community. I look at it like craft beer. Our artisans are like small edgy micro breweries, pushing the envelope and making amazingly interesting snuff. The “big” snuff mills are like sierra nevada or deschutes, still artisans who make good snuff. The way I see it we should all count ourselves lucky that there really is no Anheiser-Busch/Inbev of snuff. There really is no company that makes a truely substandard product and says “deal with it”. Just my two cents, and they ain’t worth a penny.

I think snuffy might be pissed because he has loads of bulk and the new snuffs just keep coming.

Very interesting comments here. Like many of you, I find the artisan snuffs fantastic. But that said, I thoroughly enjoy the non artisan snuffs as well. I like what @Roderick has to say, and without repeating it verbatim he is spot on in my opinion. While I haven’t tried all the artisan snuffs by a long shot, the ones I have I enjoy, but only as one might enjoy a rare spirit or fine cigar. I still reach for my Toques, Gawiths, Indians of all types, and my most recent discoveries from Covent and Mc Chrystals. I’m not prone to raving about any type in particular, and as I am the only snuffer I know in my world, I enjoy reading what others think about the various types, brands, scents, histories, ect, of our common interest here in this forum. I don’t enjoy seeing members slamming newbies, or soapboxing about their particular views. Maybe I have been guilty of this on occasion, I suppose I have. I won’t apologize. I just enjoy the topic of snuff, its one of my personal delights and I hope to enjoy it for many years to come.

Seems as if the OP has abandoned his own thread along with the forum…

I’ve got a short list of snuffs that I will never be without, and they are all from the major players. As a matter of fact, I’ve got a nose full of O&G right now, but after one has been here for a few years, what more is left to say about it? If someone tries one if my old favorites for the first time and wants to talk about it, I’ll jump in with enthusiasm, but otherwise, I’ll spare you all my tired old opinion. There is always more to say about what ever is new and exciting, but I always go back to my O&G, and my Wild Duck, and my SM Blue, and…

Well said @Java. I am new to snuff and love discussing all things tobacco with others. I am still somewhat new to pipes at just over 4 yrs. but with 22 yrs of cigar smoking you have summarize my position. Do I have old favorites by the box, of course. I offer them as suggestions if asked by someone who I think might enjoy them but the new boutiques, like the stuff Ezra Zion is making is what exciting now. Such is the nature of forums.

I’m not really into ‘artisan’ snuffs, or beer, or food. There’s just something about the whole idea that puts me off. I’m not saying that the products aren’t good, it’s just the whole ‘artisan’ thing that makes me shudder. It seems like everything nowadays is ‘artisan’, or even ‘artisanal’, which strikes me as nothing more than a marketing buzzword. I remember seeing, when I still lived in England, a pub advertising ‘hand-cut style chips’. Not hand cut, just made on a machine in the style of a potato that has been sliced by hand. There’s a store in my town that just sells artsanal olive oil, and is only there because they are heavily subsidized by the town, which is trying to restyle itself as a fashionable retail district. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure hand-cut style chips and $60 bottles of olive oil are fine products, it’s just the aura of the whole thing that turns me off. I also have no doubt that the ‘micro-snuffs’ are excellent too, they certainly have received glowing praise from many highly experienced snuffers on this forum. I guess that when I snuff WoS or F&T, I feel like I am snuffing a couple of hundred years of history, and that’s a big part of the experience for me.