That little episode wasn’t about restricting the supply of bananas, but about protecting the interests of the United Fruit Company. Couldn’t have all those pesky farmers getting too high a price for their crop. That might’ve cut into somebody’s stock dividends.
Now I am hearing the Pact act was passed and just waiting for Mao to sign it.
Yes, S.1147 passed the Senate with unanimous consent – meaning that no senator objected – on March 11. [url]http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-1147[/url] I’m a bit surprised that this was rammed through so suddenly this week, but I suppose that I shouldn’t be.
I’d imagine as a group US Senators and Congressional Reps tend to favor cigars over cigarettes for themselves…I don’t think we need to look further than that for a reason they would be exempt under PACT.
I really don’t believe children are buying their cigs online, and I don’t believe online tobacco vendors are financing terrorists. I do believe it’s a conspiracy to create more crime, more unemployment, and more people to smoke.
I wonder how many customs and post offices etc are going to take this seriously or just how they plan to enforce this if cigars are allowed its not even like they can have ‘tobacco sniffing dogs’ and I wonder what the fine or penalty would be if someone is actually caught at having tobacco products delivered. in the meantime, I think maybe MrSnuff, Roderick and NicotineRush maybe better seriously consider adding the Stoker’s method of paper catalog and telephone access to their methods just in case websites are forced to come down.
Now all those poor little kids and terrorists (especially l’il kid terrorists) are going to have to make do with cigars.
exactly. I mean it’s illegal to copy music off the internet too. I say if it does pass lets focus on giving cancer too the people that voted for it. It probably won’t do anything but if it did we could certainly become the biggest pressure group ever. If you don’t subsidise snuff will give you all rashes. One thing this reminds me of is when I was a kid I never knew why cowardice was considered such a negative trait now that I’am older I really see cowardice as one of the big evil traits in humanity.
@bob they’ll just add us (and anyone experiencing nicotine withdrawals) to the terrorist groups list… didn’t you know that half of everybody (including US service veterans and soccer moms with political bumper stickers) are already on the terrorist lists? its almost to where if you haven’t been labeled a terrorist lately, you’re doing something wrong.
I’ve wondered if they think I’am a terrorist? Though I would never do anything to reduce sales of albums by the “Coup”. Why are people so insane? Seriously sometimes it’s hard for me to get worked up about this insane asylum called a planet we live on. Other times its really easy for me to get worked up. Though here is one I’am wondering why do people contiunaly think they can actualy control things on a real level??? If nothing has in billions of years why would someone be able to now??? Excluding God (I’am thinking libertine style God kind of a fill in the blank with divine head honcho of choice) of course.
cstokes wrote: "I am sure that you will continue to ship to the states, Roderick, but I doubt the few other shops would do the same. Perhaps you could start selling other brands? It might sound stupid, but it would give you even more business. " Roderick that is a brilliant idea and I second it. I would add one more thing. Start selling e-gift cards (like Amazon). Thus I would go to your site and make my selection. Then I would get the total from my basket (including shipping). Next I purchase a e gift card for the ammount. Await the code to arrive via email. Then place my order using the code. This will head off the credit card companies and credit card processing companies who wish to stop tobacco transactions. No tobacco was sold via credit card. You might even develop that line of snus boxes you were talking about so that (with your hats and shirts and boxes) you can be listed as a gift shop.
Though if they did invade I’d sign up then defect immediatly. I’ll just need some secrets first. (just planning for as many out comes as I can.)
So if what you say is true then the cigar excemption must be to make it easier for congressionaly cuban sessions.
Roderick wrote “It’s pretty unlikely that the USA will invade the UK over a bit of snuff.” I dunno R, you make some pretty good snuff :>) Also I am going to copy your comment over to snuson. I think it is very important and worth hearing. I will of course give full credit to Roderick, Snuffhouse, and will also provide a link to this thread.
I promise I’ll not interfere with the magic snuff making elves. At least I’ll get to try my immitation of the queen at home on a real native.
Here is the link to my post over at snuson http://www.snuson.com/viewtopic.php?p=139043#139043
What is truly ludicrous about PACT is that, in the end, cigarettes will simply be reconfigured and reclassified as “little cigars” (most already have been) and it will be business as usual for the cigarette vendors. The “cigar” definition as worded in the PACT Act is a joke. The cigar exception ensures that a simple semantic shift doesn’t affect online “cigarette” sales. So then what remains? Really, only those few people who buy and sell pipe tobacco, nasal snuff and real Swedish snus are the ones who are going to suffer from this. Just how much tax can possibly be accrued from mail order pipe tobacco, Swedish snus and nasal snuff? (I can’t imagine that chewing tobacco and moist snuff users constitute a significant mail order demographic. That stuff is readily available at every gas station and convenience store on every street throughout the country.) I’d be surprised if the total combined snus and nasal snuff user base in the entire US is more than several thousand people. Pipe tobacco is itself a rather esoteric and specialized area in this day and age. It doesn’t take much to realize that PACT would cost more to “enforce” than the tax revenue it is supposed to bring in.
Makes me want to roll over and die. I don’t even have the energy to bitch.
Story of humanity. I bet the only advantage that way in tribal societies is your problem leaders were only a stones throw away.
yep, even us for circumventing both the pharamcutical AND the US tobacco industry oh AND health insurance for having found a cheaper safer (for everyone not just us but people around us no second hand smoke no fire hazards), alternative to smoking cigarettes probably renters and house and car and life insurance and everybody else is mad at us too since they can’t charge you extra smokers fees now. We’re terrorists alright.