OT - Smoking banned in outdoor spaces NYC.

@NelsonPipeClub: Damn right modern society is stultified. Henry Miller once wrote that the modern American is pacifistic and cannibalistic, and he said that purt-near 80 years ago. I agree with Pollan as well, I like what he has to say. Both nibble at opposite ends of the same Graham cracker: in our haste to improve our lives we quit listening to our intuition and started following Advice from Experts, thus taking millions of years of Wise Nature’s instincts that we were born with and chucking them into the crapper. Eat when you want to (STOP WHEN YOU’RE NOT HUNGRY), drink til you’re happy, practice moderation in all manners of indulgence but by no means deny yourself the carnal pleasures that are an integral part of life in meatspace. One of the reasons I like it so much here on Snuffhouse; we’re all bound by a common love of an esoteric but wonderful habit and hobby…

^5 on that, Bru!

Wow! Nicely put James!!! F’in brilliant…that is one great philosophy to have, and I guess unknowingly I’ve been living it for years. I’ve just never seen it put into words…big ups bruv!!!

Very soon, Americans won’t be allowed to smoke even within the privacy of their homes.

Heh, well thank you…as Fred Sanford once said, “Yeh I manage to get off a good one now an’ agin.” But I find myself making the same pratfall much as anybody else. I’m a technical writer and therefore fiendishly left-brained; forever analyzing and dismantling situations, people, machines, etc. Seldom allow myself to be immersed in a moment, usually passed on drink or drugs because my mind wanted to be in control and my mind does NOT like to be upstaged. Only now, a little later in life, do I realize my mind can be a big pain in the ass and I’d like it to shut up, frankly. Sometime between the late Paleozoic Era and when I graduated from college, I was actually more creative and experienced more than one emotion a week…would like to head back in that direction before I turn into a complete robot.

instinct the only thing that’s been evolving for billions of years with you best interests in mind.

your not you best interests

Fact is, smoking stinks (the actual smell), everyone knows this. Secondhand smoke is not filtered, less of us understand this one. Fact is, burning anything is not good for the environment, cars included. The way I see it, snuff has no way to go but up. America will be a huge market for snuff. It’s not the tobacco, it’s the smell, it’s the pollution, it’s the nasty butts laying all over, it’s the fire hazard on the sides of the road and it’s the considerable expense our governments are paying for health related issues to smoking. If so many smokers hadn’t gotten lazy and disregarded everyone around them for their bad habit, it probably wouldn’t have become like it has. Anyway, I’m hoping to see a wide variety of imported snuffs at a local store someday, even if I have to start it.

Kelowna its illegal to smoke 3 meters from a door, at bus stops, in parks, in your car with anybody under 16, and a whole bunch of other ones. When i quit i really didnt care where people smoked around me.

Soviet Union didn’t have this problem either.

Well, no one will ever tell me what i can and can’t do, so if they were to try to take away something that i like doing, I won’t make it easy for them. Kinda like how I never pay parking tickets. motherless politician control freaks!

Damn Mark I thought your avatar was something you got off the internet…but that’s actually you!! :wink:

Yes, I am Gabby Hayes! I will be turning 126 years old in May. LOL! Would anyone like to buy some autographs?

yer durn tootin’…I’ll trade ya one urine filled neti pot for one…lol!!!

So how is this law enforced? How does it actualy work out. Cause that definatly matters. Hey hooked thank you so much for makeing such a fine point. I think they should drop the bar smokeing ban. I wonder is this the kind of smoking ban where someone would actualy have to complain or is it more like a parking ticket. How much does it cost how much are the police willing to enforce it? I bet it will be like public drunkeness in the town I live in. Certain times of the year it’s easy to get caught doing it. When the budgets fixed you’d have to drunkly fall on a cop to get charged with it.

As to the neo-Victorian/Fascist/Stalinist element in American politics and culture, yes, it has always been around. Examples abound for anyone with the least interest in history. Witness Louisiana governor (and perhaps the most colorful and crooked politician in US history) Huey Long’s oft-repeated and prophetic quote: “When Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag.”

It is still legal to smoke in bars, casinos and horsetracks around here, for now. Until the feds decide they know whats best for all the states. @PipenSnusnSnuff I would like to add to the qoute “and look like clinton/bush/obama” lol!! Hope that doesn’t hurt anyones feelings. On a serious note: We need to bring back the H.U.A.C.! I bet you we would see what these anti-tobacco (aka anti-American Culture) people are really linked to!

Good lord.

yeah…ok, but… uh, oh, nevermind. Good lord.

Bunch of Health Nazi’s! Before you know you need to wear a big S on your clothes, ( SMOKER ).