Hello, From now you can pay in our webshop with Visa and Mastercard. And whats more we have produced our first half pound of the St. Omer No. 1 a traditionaly manufactured Karotten snuff. It took us nearly two years to get this far. That half pound is not for sale and the production of enough snuff for the market will take more time. In the mean time I will allow 10 individuals to sample this historical product. The first 10 who sent an email to info@snuifmolens.nl with their postal address will receive a 5 gram sample. Jaap Bes.

Email sent. Are u.s.a customers able to buy from your webshop?

^Exactly what he said

@snuffmiller A very kind offer - email sent.

Nice!

Great stuff Jaap, email sent!

Email Sent!

email sent! Exciting “snuff”

I’ve got 10 requests so all is given out. No more mails please. Jaap Bes.

Missed by 10 minutes! :(( :))

Rats!

ditto

Bummer, but thanks anyway. Keep in mind for future releases.

Thanks for being a part of our snuff community, Jaap, we are all enriched by the participation of manufacturers! Can you describe what St. Omer No. 1 a traditionaly manufactured Karotten snuff is?

St. Omer has been in the works as long as I have been here, perhaps longer. Jaap has talked about it for a long time. I think it has the ambergris, that was the subject one of our past discussions.

The samples are all in the hands of TNTpost depending where you are it can take up toll a fortnight @ Mouse: St. Omer No. 1 is a snuff prepared from Virgina leaves. The leaves are first sauced with a sauce containing: Potash, Sal ammoniac, Tamarind, Yeast, Wine lees, Sugar sirup, Brazilian Rose wood oil and Ambergris (This last one is replaced by oil from the laurel-leaf cistus, because it is practical impossible te get ambergris these days) the fermentation is stopped by adding kitchen salt. After the fermentation the leaves are weight in about 2 kg portions and rolled tightly in a linnen cloth a rope is then thightly pulled around it. after a few weeks the cloth and rope are replaced by a string and stored fore at least 6 month. After that the string is removed and the Karot is chopped fine in the mill and sieved. Jaap Bes.

Thanks for describing the snuff, Jaap! Out of curiosity I went to a web site in New Zealand that sells ambergris tinctures and was quite surprised by how expensive it is. I was wondering how you were going to keep the cost affordable. Now I am curious about laurel-leaf cistus oil… “Labdanum Cistus ladaniferus (Cistaceae) The leaves of the rockrose Cistus ladaniferus are covered by glandular hairs exuding an odoriferous resin called labdanum. It has a warm, sweet-resinous, woody-ambery odour. It is one of perfumery’s classic ingredients. C. ladaniferus is typical of the dry-land vegetation (‘maki’) of the Mediterranean countries. In Cyprus, for example, there are large brushwoods of C. ladaniferus. Goats and sheep in the hills get their fur sticky with labdanum. Formerly the shepherds collected this material from their animals and sold it to buyers at the sea-ports. In ancient Egypt, the false goat-hair beards of the pharaohs were impregnated with labdanum to surround these men with an impressive aura of distinction. The Cypriotes mixed labdanum with styrax and calmus oil, thereby creating an early masterpiece of perfumery. The Crusaders, when they conquered the island, became so enthusiastic about the fragrance that they brought the recipe to the rest of Europe. Known as the ‘Chypre’-theme, it is still employed in modern perfumery. Cyprus, Crete, the Esterel Mountains in southern France, Spain and Portugal are the main production sites of labdanum. Today the crude Labdanum gum-resin is obtained by treating the cut plants with hot alkaline water to catch all the surface waxes, resinous matter and oily parts from the plants. Steam distillation of the gum yields about 2 % of labdanum oil, which is extensively used in perfumery. It has a powerful, diffusive and very substantive odour with strong notes of incense and ambergris. The oil is an extremely complex mixture of mainly oxygenated terpenoid compounds C10-20. Weyerstahl et al. detected more than 300 constituents in a sample of commercial labdanum oil, 186 of which were identified. The main compound was ledene (9 %). Among the constituents having an ambery odour, alpha-ambrinol, ambrox and drimenone were identified [62]. By using GC with sniffing, Ramalho et al. found that 2,2,6-trimethyl-2-cyclohexenone was an important woody-smelling constituent of labdanum oil from Portugal [63].”

What is the web shop Http

http://www.snuifmolenswebshop.nl I guess

Oh too slow, looking forward to hearing peoples thoughts on this one though.

@Mouse: thanks for the addition on the laurel leaf cistus. This resin we can afford. @Rabello: thats the right address Jaap Bes.

Been a couple of years since I could buy from you direct. Beautiful snuffs.Look forward to giving my credit card a thrashing. Still got that nice postcard of the two windmills on my mantlepiece. Are you going to send them out again?

@snuffmiller. Hi Jaap The St Omer sample turned up today - pretty good post from you to the UK in only 2 days. The snuff is very moist so I have the bag open and airing it to dry it out a little. I could not resist taking a very small sample as soon as I opened the bag. The aroma is very subtle but certainly lasts. I will attempt a proper review once it has dried out a bit and I can give it a good stir to separate it properly and then take a decent sized pinch. Many thanks for the sample.

@London Jack: Every first order from somebody is sent out with a postcard. Jaap Bes.

I love those postcards, have one hanging up in my tobacco cabinet, my “baccynet”

I could not resist the temptation any longer so although I think it probably needs to dry a little more I took a decent sized pinch of the St Omer. It reminds of the aroma of a classic British pipe tobacco but I can’t remember precisely which one. I will have to sniff some of my pipe tobaccos later today, or tomorrow, and work out which one it is. Clearly the basic tobacco comes through quite strongly. It is dark and fairly coarse and moist. It has a slight but lingering and quite pleasant burn to it. After a while there are other flavours in the background that are starting to come through but I can’t quite identify them. I will definitely try this outdoors tomorrow and see how it is in the fresh air. I suspect that this snuff will be even better tomorrow when it has dried out further. I am getting much more from it now than I did with my very first pinch when it was clearly far too moist. But for now I would say that if you like the tobacco flavour at the forefront then you will like this snuff. I will try for a more rounded review tomorrow.

@snuffmiller Mine arrived yesterday, 2 days from Holland to the UK, very good! I opened the letter and was greeted by a wonderful scent, even my OH remarked on what a pleasent scent it was. Not tried any yet saving it for the weekend. Thanks again Jaap

Got mine today. Nice scent to it. Can’t wait to try it. Thanks Jaap!!!

Having been one of the lucky ten, I feel obliged to pass on my experience! This snuff is very course, very moist and beautifully dark, almost half way to being a schmaltzer. I let it dry out for about a day and a half before trying it, and it is incredible. The aroma is quite complex, but it reminds me of dried fruit that has been soaked in alcohol (as in when making a Christmas cake for example), mixed with, as @chris says, a fine pipe tobacco. In fact, it is not dissimiler to Bernard Brasil Doppelt Fermentiert in the general smell. The burn is not intense but relatively long lasting and actually quite pleasant. Overall I really enjoyed snuffing this. It is nothing like my usual SP staples, but having used it for a few days as an after dinner snuff I can safely say that when it does become available I will certainly be buying some…or a lot. Jaap (@snuffmiller), this snuff is a triumph and I congratulate you, and I recommend that everyone should give it a go when it is released.

Received mine today and as stated by others it is very moist. I am going to let it dry out a bit then give it a go.

I recieved mine as well today, and have gone ahead and given it a go in its current moist state. This really is a fantastic snuff - fairly coarse, moist and dark - the scent is rich and quite sensual - it reminds me of a number of dark dried fruits - sultanas, prunes, and dates with a rich leathery tobacco scent upfront. It’s almost like a gorgeous love child of Old Paris and molens gingerbread snuff, and yet there is much more at play here. It is subtle, complex, sensual and delightful. Jaap- you’ve outdone yourself!

I received my sample and have been letting it breathe in a wooden snuffbox for a bit. i’ve taken some pinches here and there, but I think it still needs to open up a bit.

My opinion but I think @koba22 nailed it. Not much I can add to these reviews as they are all spot on. The alcohol scent was stronger in the background yesterday but seems to fade a little as I don’t notice as much today but its still there. Very nice and will definitely be ordering it when it becomes available.

I have been absent from this forum for some time, and I can’t wait until this snuff is available for purchase. Thank you, Jaap, for making such fantastic and traditional snuffs!!

This snuff is fantastic. The scent reminds me of a plum brandy my grandpa use to make. A perfect winter snuff in my opinion. Thanks Jaap for the memories and a great snuff.

10 days in with this now and it seems to be maturing. With my first few pinches I really didn’t get the liqueur flavour that others have mentioned here. But I just took a large pinch and this time I definitely got that and yes there is a hint of plum in there although it fades quite quickly. After which I am left with the scent of fine pipe tobacco that lasts for some time but does not outstay its welcome. I have been ekeing the sample out, with just the occasional pinch, so that I can pick up any changes as it matures but even so my sample is now running low. Had it not been for wanting to give some feedback as it matured then I would have finished the sample off very quickly. I heartily recommend this to anyone that loves the aroma of good tobacco. I look forward to this snuff going into full production so that I can buy a decent supply of it.

Been taking this on and off all day, WOW! There is something there I cannot quite place but it has a sweet scent, but as chris says, a good pipe tobacco scent, it reminds me a bit of Dunhill Nightcap’s initial taste. I have to have more of this and cannot wait until it comes out!

@ all: Thank you for your opinions. The humidity is the reason it takes so long to prepare this snuff. The Karotten hold quite a lot of humidity. As we don’t wat to heat the snuff it takes quite a lot of stamping during dry weather to get rid of the exces of humidity. As for the alcohol it is possible that you noticed it as the sauce we use contains live yeast which produce alcohol. We go on stamping till it’s sufficiantly dry to sell. Jaap Bes.

I’ve been taking pinches of this one here and there out of a wooden snuffbox and it I find it more flavorsome each time I do. I have to admit when I first got it and sampled it I didn’t get much scent. It really needed to breathe and get some air but now I know Jaap has done it again and then some! It’s almost like it has a soft perfume along with the typical De Kraalingse spice. I don’t think I have much to add to what others have said but I might after a few days. Nonetheless I don’t think any words can adequately convey the depth and beauty of this one.

My sample just arrived, thanks! Very good Snuff with a very peculiar smell. I really liked it!

how long before there will be 100g tubs of this for sale?

^^some time, I’ve been waiting YEARS for that shit!

@cakeanddottle and n9inchnails: As you keep on hoping, we keep on trying! Jaap Bes.