Just bought some Neftobak in the 45g horn shaped cannister from, Jayems, 125 Victoria Street, Victoria Street, London SW1E 6RD 020 7828 1472. The tobacconist said that if people wanted to call him he could arrange mail order but shipping to the U.K only. A bit pricey mind at £6.99. I have only had a brief time with this snuff but on first impressions it has an odd sweet and salty taste/smell, that reminds me of Turkish sumac and I am told you can add some water to it and make a sterk los snus. I will experiment over the weekend. Has anyone any experience of using this stuff either as nasal snuff or snus?

Not that expensive when you realise that 10g of WoS is around £1.50. Victoria Street is just a tube ride from me (never visited the shop though). Look forward to hearing what it is like.

Could you post a picture of the container?

Good find, khalid!

This Neftobak sounded interesting so I did a search and came up with this photo Maybe Mr Snuff can look into stocking this Link to more info

Very cool. Yes, Dave please look into it!

I think I would also purchase it. Is this that Icelandic snuff/snus? Stefan

We were just discussing this towards the end of this other thread a few weeks ago: Horn SnuffboxesIts rather curious that this has turned up in a London brick & mortar shop.

I’d mistake the containers for either shoe polish or oil painting supplies if I wasn’t told what they were. So, is it Snuff. Snus or both?

According to what I read (can’t remember where), is that snus was outlawed in Iceland not long back, so since they can’t import it, they took to making their own, but dry so it can be used as nasal snuff. It is ostensibly nasal snuff, that’s what neftobak translates to. However, its more commonly self mixed with water to make Swedish style snus. Nasal use of snuff has a tradition in Iceland that seems to have died out in favor of snus. This product seems to be both attempting to revive that tradtion, and also circumventing the ban on snus. Rather clever actually. To use the plastic horn in the traditional Icelandic fashion, you insert the tip in your nostril, and then tip your head back allowing the snuff to pour in.

Seems like you could waste a lot of snuff that way. I could only imagine how much snuff could be dumped in the nose that way; then, how much would pour right back out of your nose when returning your head to it’s normal position.

True. I would pinch my nose closed until it moistend up and got sticky. I do that with heavy snuffs already, otherwise they drop right out.

You could always fill up then pop in some nose plugs. I bet you could get about a gram in each nostril and then you would be good to go for the day. No snuff box can match that.

I bet that would be a rush.

@cstokes4 Ahh! Thanks for clearing up the mystery for me. The idea of pouring Snuff into the nose is intriguing, but I wonder how many people walk away from the experience looking like Marty Feldman afterward.

If anyone would be interested in getting a tin of this for me, I’d be rather interested in trying it. Of course, it’ll have to wait for ~2 weeks with bills coming up Filek and I have both been trying to get some of this since early summer. khalid: Does the store near you sell in any quantities greater that 45g, like that 250g tub I’ve seen pics of?

O.K, Neftobak appears to be made by ATVR .The State Alcohol and Tobacco Company of Iceland (ÁTVR) is a monopoly in sales of alcohol in Iceland. ÁTVR runs 48 liquor-shops in Iceland. ÁTVR’s head office in Reykjavík Street address: Studlahals 2 Postal address: ATVR, Studlahals 2, 110 Reykjavik E-mail: atvr@atvr.is Telephone: +354 560 7700 Fax: +354 560 7757 CEO: Ívar J. Arndal (atvr@atvr.is) For those of you in the U.S who wanted to get a hold of some…new job and new baby mean that it will be six weeks before I am in central London again. Maybe another London based snuffhouser will be able to sort you out more speedily. Sorry for this, I would normally be happy to oblige. Jayems only hold stock of the 45g cannisters. I have mixed some of the tobacco into los snus and am pleasantly suprised, it is not as strong as legend would have it but equal in strength to a normal Swedish Match product. There must be some added ingredient to make more of the nicotine available. It bakes well and has a flavour that is peaty and smokey like an islay single malt. Really pleasant. I hope someone can find a way to make this available by mail order.

Buy this with caution Because this smells like horseshit(not joking).But it is has quite a nicotine hit which is good.

Some of my favorite snuffs smell like horseshit. Can’t find it anywhere though. @MatadorMan: I’d happily trade you for something you like if you PM me.

Howdy Xander! That’s because you don’t live close to anybody who owns horses! I bet your post ends up in “Out of context!”

I am with @matadorman completely … nefto(Blek) … it is downright Animal Farm … @Xander, i promise, man, that stuff is NOT good — for sniffing or snusing … i tried it … “earthy” is one thing … horse dung is another. YMMV … BUT … as an edit … one can never tell what one will like, right? I was just seconding MatadorMan … if you do try it, let us know how it goes …

How could you possibly take that out of context? I really meant it.

I want to try it for a few reasons. Exotic, foreign, organic.

@Xander Well the problem is, that if I want some snuff sent here the police would get a hold of it and never give it to me.Because it’s illegal here in Iceland…

I’d freaking love to try some more horseshit snuff. Horseshit is one of my favorite flavors. I’m not joking either, and would try some for the same reasons as @cstokes4 and @Xander!

I prefer cow dung! ( not joking either).

Farm animal dung flavor in general is good.

@MatadorMan: I have a hard time beleiving that Neftobak is legal yet any other snuff is not. I can beleive that shops may not be able to sell them, but personal use is surely beyond the law. Surely you can import from an online store for personal use? Perhaps you may have to pay a duty, but I can’t believe it would be confiscated. We’ve has Icelandic members here before, and I don’t recall them having issues. Perhaps @Toque or @MrSnuff could shed some light on wether or not they’ve sent to Iceland before, or do so regularly.

@Xander: It really depends on how good Icelandic customs are. As I understand it, all online tobacco sales are illegal in Iceland, so there’s the possibility of being prosecuted for it if it’s caught. Depending on the fines I might give a it a go and see if I could slip a couple through. It’s worth noting that Swedish snus is not only illegal to buy or sell, but also possession and use is illegal in Iceland. I imagine it wouldn’t be too difficult to slip small orders through, but you never know how good customs is in another country. There’s a British guy doing a jail term in the Middle East because customs found .003g of pot on him as he went through the airport on his layover. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-512815/Briton-jailed-years-Dubai-customs-cannabis-weighing-grain-sugar-shoe.html Better watch out if Dubai starts licensing those scanners to other country’s customs. If they can detect .003g of cannabis fast enough that it doesn’t cause delays in a major international airport, I’m think USPS would be able to notice some of our 1kg+ snuff orders coming in.

Don’t put too much faith in what you read in the daily fail. Bad for the blood pressure.

@bish777 That was for real. It was all over the news when it happened, ridiculous and scary at the same time. I don’t partake in marijuana myself, but I hang about with plenty of people who do. I’ll be avoiding the UAE if I ever need to travel to Asia. Would a similar story from the Leftypendent persuade you? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/tv-executive-faces-jail-in-dubai-for-barely-visible-cannabis-speck-785595.html

I’ll wait to read it in the metro!

If you can’t decide which paper to read, read mine online: The HowdyDave International Review http://www.crayon.net/read.cgi?howdydave@msn.com My philosophy is that every paper has an angle – so if you read it from EVERY angle, you might get the straight dope. Who knows… maybe only the Huddersfield Examiner or Bangkok Post got it right!

Icelandic tobacco laws are strict. Inline sales or mail shipments of any kind are illegal. Smokeless tobacco is illegal if it is meant to be consumed orally. The way they determine this is by moisture content. Most snus is 50-51% moisture by content. Anything with (I think) 40% or less moisture content is considered “dry” nasal snuff and it’s legal for purchase. Neftobak is as moist as you can legally purchase in Iceland and most people add water to the container, shake it up, and use it as snus. Very few people use it nasally. “Real” dry snuff is virtually unheard of in Iceland due to their strict import/export laws. Tobacco purchased in Iceland has to be manufactured in Iceland, and there’s just two manufacturers of smokeless tobacco. They only manufacture Neftobak and a brand of plug tobacco that is marketed as “smoking” tobacco but which most people use as a chewing tobacco. Though it’s pretty unlikely, Police in Iceland are allowed to arrest and fine you if you walk around with tobacco in your mouth. They can also arrest you for possessing pornography. And it’s a 6 month prison sentence if you sell a pornographic item, like a naked picture of Madonna. Hell, until recently it was illegal to own a dog in Iceland!

Ok, now officially removing Iceland from the list of places I would ever consider living…

@Xander:Well the snuff which is illegal is the fine-grain ones which “Íslenskt Neftóbak” is not.This is what I found about Snuff on the icelandic law wabsite:“Bannað er að flytja inn, framleiða og selja fínkornótt neftóbak og allt munntóbak”.Translation:It is prohibited to import, manufacture or sell fine-grained snuff and chewing tobacco at all.

Besides, Íslenskt Neftóbak has to have the right size of grains for it to be legal. So in Iceland we only have one brand of nasal tobacco…

Thank you for the information/clarification. However, in snuff (even true and proper nasal snuff) there are a wide variety of grains. The Indian white snuffs represent an extremely fine grain. The American Scotches and the Irish Toasts are the next two levels up. At the other end of the spectrum are the English rappees, German schmalzlers, and ultmately the South African gwayis. I myslef and most members here use a variety of types ranging from very fine to very course. I strongly suspect that Nefotóbak is not nearly as coarse as the most coarse of those I have mentioned. Therefore, by the letter of the law there must be some texture ofsnuff that can be imported. Of course that would require your customs inspectors to examine and measure the grains of any imported tins. Most laws that I have read, and I assume your legal system works this way, applies very specific language and this law may not apply to individual citizens, but only to businesses. Technically I do not “import” snuff when I buy it from overseas, which is how 95% of my snuff is purchaced. Anyway, I hope you can change the law, or find a way around it. You are missing out on one of the greatest pleasures known to humanity.

Just to throw in an update for those interested, a friendly fellow on SnusOn procured a 10g Toque tin filled with Neftóbak for me. Took a rather circuitous route, Iceland to NY via Seattle, but it got here. I’d place it around Makla Ifrikia in strength. In the nose, it reminds me of NTSU black or Babaton. In the mouth it has a taste of rather strong black coffee, quite bitter at first. Perhaps it would hold up better with a bit of water added to it, but I just took it as is, and loaded up two click’s worth in an Icetool, and it’s only just starting to run after 30 minutes. I’d certainly be interested in acquiring one of the larger drums, I believe they’re 250g. Could see myself using it fairly often, but it’s certainly not a taste everyone will love.

Cheers, Mr. S!

For those interested, word on the street is Iceland has just unveiled a new variety of neftóbak. It’s called Lundi. I haven’t heard of it tasting any different, the big difference apparently being that it’s moisture content is more stable. If I had to guess, they probably just added propylene glycol to it. If @mr.snuff can get his hands on some neftóbak, it’ll probably be the standard old version though. I’ve heard that Iceland originally produced enough for what they estimated would last 4 months, and it sold out completely in the first three weeks that the first run was available for retail.

I guess I’ll cancel my trip to Iceland then. Or postpone it until the supply stabilizes.

No need to cancel. You can still get the regular version, like in that picture above. Just might have to wait a little while if you want Lundi. Just make sure to pick up 5kg or so of the regular stuff, and you’ll be an even more popular trader.

One of my favourites. Thinking of it drives me bonkers - it’s virtually unavailable outside of Iceland.
Here’s the link to the thread with a beautiful photo of it:
http://snuffhouse.com/discussion/8244/snuff-in-iceland (scroll down to Jari_T post)

Amazing plain snuff for extra coarse grind lovers! And yes, it is strong.

Sadly, I just found out that Jayems was closed down in 2015.

http://www.londonlive.co.uk/news/2015-02-03/london-tobacconist-closing-after-38-years

http://icelandreview.com/news/2015/06/03/smoking-down-snuff-and-snus-use

Above a link to Iceland and Snuff.

We have very few tobacco shops like this left in the UK.

Nice video, even if it is bad news.

Hello guys I read here about this snuff and I want to try it.I have a friend of mine who will go to iceland soon and I will ask her if she can get some. Do you know if there are some problems to get some of this snuff and take it abroad? I know Iceland has a particular legislation… Thank you

@schmalzlerfranzl, you should be more worried about Italy’s customs, although small amounts (a horn or two) should not be an issue. It’s the import of snuff and snus that is restricted in Iceland, not the outgoing goods. Just don’t try to declare it when back in Italy, keep it deep in the suitcase and choose “Nothing to declare” gates.

After all, neftobak is listed in Keflavik Airport Duty Free store (EUR 12.42 for 45 g horn), so they do sell it right there and should allow to bring it through the gates. http://www.dutyfree.is/en/products/tobacco/tobacco/snuff/neftobak-horn-45gr/221-2302 It is possible to pre-order it online for passengers and collect it in the airport later, while departuring (you need to order products one day in advance and no longer than two weeks in advance): http://www.dutyfree.is/en/dutyfree-express/

This is the most pocket-friendly way to procure neftobak. The price is much higher outside the airport. I had to pay EUR 20 for one horn to my buddy who brought it to me procured from a tobacconist somewhere in a city a few months back.

And just in case you won’t enjoy it, I’m ready for a trade!

P. S. Neftobak is available in 50 g plastic cans, too. It’s the same snuff. I advice to choose the horn, though, for it is absolutely airtight and simply the best snuff container ever made!

@volunge Thank you for explanations. Italy customs are not a problem, we can get in 250g of tobacco from non UE and 1kg from UE. I have already read eveything about this neftobak and I want at least 2 hornes although the price is quite high. But I absolutely want it. Ps where are you from?

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Ok finally I have my Neftobak My friend bought me 4 horns more or less 13 euros each I tryed some of this and well it is good but I expected more It is extra coarse like wood powder dark and quite moist The smell it is earthy leathery and in the end it reminds me the smell of an empty peated whisky bottle It is pretty hard to take because it is extra coarse and burn a bit nostrils and last few minutes in the nose I have to try it more

@schmalzlerfranzl, it might grow on you. Try “boxcar” method, big loads. This thing needs to be insufflated vigorously. Closing one nostril while snorting does the trick.

@volunge What is boxcar? If I take it too vigorously it will stick in my throat and is not a pleasure

@schmalzlerfranzl, I uploaded boxcar pictures in Boxcar thread (http://snuffhouse.com/discussion/10249/boxcar#latest).

@volunge Oh thank you now I understand I think it is not comfortable for me this way and with Neftobak it is risky

@volunge Tryed boxcar method it is fantastic thank ypu But Neftobak did not changed even A bit disappointed from this snuff

@schmalzlerfranzl, if you don’t enjoy it much as it is, there is a simple way to turn neftobak into irresistible snuff. Decant some into 10 g empty WoS tin (2/3 full). Put one tonka bean, close the lid, keep the bean in for one hour, giving a hearty shake every 15 minutes or so. Open the tin, take out the bean and save it for next batches.

https://www.amazon.it/La-Route-des-Epices-Tonka/dp/B01BK18EDW Or just ask for it in any spice shop.

I regret trying boxcar this late. It’s quite new method of snuff taking for me as well. Where have I been all these years?..

Dear @volunge With boxcar you opened me a new way to enjoy snuff Wow absolutely fantastic dont stick in my throat how it is possible The only thing it is I love rituality so I love to take pinches of my snuff and take it to my nose but boxcar is best now Perfect for larger pinches So do you think tonka bean will upgrade Neftobak?

I have tried it, mate. I could praise tonka all night long, it’s magical!

If you have any toast, try it from boxcar. Caution, it triples the effect.

@volunge Ok I will try you planted a seed in my brain probably a tonka bean Are you talking about nicotine effects?

@schmalzlerfranzl Toasts hit me three times harder, taken by boxcar. When pinching, I need three large pinches per each nostril. Boxcar reduces my needs to a single load per nostril. Better dispersion results in faster nicotine uptake and sharper burn.

One more thing came into my mind regarding neftobak. If bergamot aroma is still present in your Calabrian snuffbox, you can pour some neffo there. It takes up scents really good. I have succesfully rehydrated and scented some dried out nef, pouring it on the inner side of fresh orange peels. Orange scent was subtle, just a refreshing hint.

@volunge Boxcar is fantastic Now I use only boxcar to take snuff Neftobak is very disappointing for me What a pity

I first tought that i would give it a try since it would be possible to get it here:

https://www.icelandic-products.info/shop/neftobak/

but to be honest, this price puts me off. 

@msx, that price is sick. Better get yourself some Burley from eurotabak.de and make coarse (tea strainer grade) moist (35% moisture) moderately alkalized (4% potash) and lightly salted (4% salt) snuff. Keep it warm (up to 45 C) for 3-5 days. It will be akin to neftobak.

@volunge thank you very much for this nice recipe. i will make sure to try that out. it is some fortunate that i was thinking about getting into this part of our hobby as well… making my own for the fun of it.

I wanna try this on my own as well… just need to get my paws on some Burley

@Humppa i think i will just order some from eurotabak.de - seems like a good source btw: Gruss aus dem Saarland

@msx yes, I know store and almost ordered there. But I still have some Virginia around that I have to use first before I wanna order new leaves.

Gruss aus Niederbayern!

Hey guys, im new here and not too wellnup on snuffs. Ive had a tin of beautiful German snuff, a pine scent. Over the years the odd tin of mentholated snuff in Ireland. I visited Iceland not long ago and picked up a 30g tin of neftobak in duty free. Its coarse and to my nose very plain. It has however grown on me. Ive noticed it seems to aggravate my throat somewhat. Ive ordered a couple tins from mr snuff and am patiently waiting for them to arrive here. Cheers.

@Kieran Wait what ? Did you ordered a couple of tins of Neftobak from Mr Snuff?
I though Neftobak can only be bought in Iceland…

No Allex, i got it in Iceland, at the duty free in Reykjavik airport.
Kieran

@Kieran I wish Neftobak was available outside Iceland (in normal and not sky-rocketed prices of course)

ALLex, where are you living?

@Kieran I live in Europe, why?

If you like ill send you on some. I got a 30g tin of it. Ill just have to get a proper tin to put it in. Its not a problem.

Wow @Kieran I am impressed by your generosity ! Thanks a lot even for your willingness to send me some mate!

But better keep the 30g tin for yourself and enjoy it - it isnt that huge of an amount.
Also I am the type of snufftaker that it would be like a “torture” for me to only have a little sample (even one 30g tin) of a snuff I know I love if I cant purchase and bulk up on it. Better without it haha.

Anyway thanks a lot for even offering to share some! You rock my friend! Keep your 30g tin for yourself that is some rare snuff!

Cheers

No problem ALLex, i take small amounts now and sniff it slowly. Its better this way. Take care.

It might grow on you. I thought the same, now i love it!

Khalid, I got a 50g tin at Reykavik duty free. At first I thought how could anybody take this, it seemed so coarse. However I can now say I love it more than any snuff I’ve tried. I wish I’d bought more of it. If I ever make it back to London I’ll try this shop you mentioned.

Kieran

Unfortunately, Jayems closed down in 2015.

Thanks to @ALLex for finding and sharing!