Anyone exposing themselves to nicotine would be well advised to learn about it’s addictive nature, the symptoms of over dose and the various symptoms of withdrawal. Simply put, someone who is not accustomed to an elevated dosage will normally experience some over dose symptoms and generally speaking withdrawal symptoms are closely related to frequency of dosage multiplied by dosage levels. Of course these details become obvious and all very trivial after a certain amount of experience with nicotine has been gained. Let me just say… You have been warned.
Hmm, I’m not sure where I said I didn’t like the pipe or the snuff? I don’t care for the strong effects of nicotine, which is why I enjoy the pipe in moderation. As noted above, I enjoy the flavor and the relaxing moments too myself. Sometimes a good book or a pint of ale can be a welcome accompaniment. Sometimes I just sit outside and look up at the night sky and contemplate. If I start to feel I’m too a point where I’m not enjoying it, I exercise free will and simply stop. Quite honestly, I really don’t get a huge nicotine effect from the snuff. I like the scents more than anything and I like them quite a bit. However, I must say, I don’t know if I’ve ever been part of a thread like this. I’m on a site dedicated to the enjoyment of particular item and seem to be encountering a bit of resistance to my participation. I’ve been smoking a pipe for about a year now, took some time to research the risks involved, found I enjoyed the aspects noted above, weighed the pluses and minuses and figured the benefit I might derive from a few bowls on the weekend was certainly worth the slightly increased risks. Once again, I had this silly notion of moderation. What WAS I thinking?!?!?
I sure hope everyone gets on my case next regarding devil alcohol and the joys of the temperance movement!!!
Honestly, I’m not even sure I want to get out of bed tomorrow…think of what might happen. No, no, best for me just to shelter in place I suppose.
Ah nuts, yeah, you know what? I’ve been on this planet nearly four decades now, and, thinking this all through again, I think I’ll just go ahead and do what I want!
I’m off to enjoy my pipe…or AM I???
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@Brewshooter Just to be clear, in no way was I talking about risks. My last post was regarding the functioning of nicotine addiction and our awareness of it. For example in your case the reason for you not liking nicotine in my opinion, is that you are overdosing on it on the weekends. Honestly, I am trying to be helpful so that nicotine may not be a distraction and may even become part of the enjoyment for you and those who it may bother. Ultimately what my point would be is to embrace the addiction. My goal here is that we would elevate our understanding. Also please note that although you are the example on this topic, I have made an effort to be all inclusive in my statements in hopes that others might consider them. I think that some degree of knowledge on this subject would be helpful to beginners as well as those wishing to quit cigarettes.
Brewshooter, I think you’ll find the majority of us are behind you.
There are certain pleasurable acts that require moderation and others where it’s all about the pleasure and there are no bad consequence’s. You just have to know your limits, a difficult thing to explain to one who is easily addicted. This was explained to me by the head of addictions at a prominent Scottish Uni (incidentally an irregular snuff user). Some of us are lucky not to be easily addicted, I count myself as one of these types even though I had to use snuff to break a smoking addiction of 20 years. I found as a smoker I could go for long spells (weeks at a time) of not smoking but always went back and at some point even as heavy a smoker as 40 a day. Some of us can try everything in moderation and others simply can’t stop themselves.
@Brewshooter…I WISH I could be moderate in my use of items with addictive qualities. However I can not. As I indicated, when I decided to try snus I knew I was contemplating renewing my tobacco addiction. I am happy I did actually. If I was able to exercise moderation I would still have the occasional beer or bourbon.
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For me, I have to choose my addictions wisely.
You are one of the lucky ones that can use tobacco (an alcohol) without needing it! I am not, but as Justaposer said…I have embraced my addiction to tobacco. Quite happily!
Snuff and smoke on Brewshooter!
@Juxtaposer No worries, my response was meant to be a bit over the top. I understand your point. I really find that only certain high nicotine tobaccos really cause any problem, primarily Virginia heavy blends. 1792 Flake is a real killer, but I like how it tastes. So, I smoke it in small amounts. Most aromatics and English blends I can smoke a fairly large bowl, even one packed tight enough to smoke for an hour to an hour and a half and, while I might feel the effects of the nicotine, I’m certainly not nauseous or unable to stand or anything. My point was, as long as there’s sex and drugs, I can do without the rock and roll.
@Toque Yeah, I don’t know what it is, but the nicotine itself doesn’t seem to hold a huge appeal to me. I actually feel I would have a higher risk of addiction with the snuff. It doesn’t have the same effect as the pipe and seems much milder. I notice a bit of a lift which never seems to get unpleasant in the same way that too much pipe tobacco can. Like I said, I forgo the pipe during the week, but do use snuff. On weekends, it’s back to the pipe and I put the snuff aside for a few days, but don’t seem to have any problem just not doing either, at least for a few days. I’ve never really bothered to go longer. I suppose maybe I should test myself!
@Slide Well, you have managed to hit on my one weakness. I do like a drink. Since I’ve taken up brewing, it’s about 90% beer these days. It is, without a doubt, where I have to keep an eye on that evil serpent we call addiction. It tends to run in the family where alcohol is involved. When I was younger, I used to be much worse. It’s still something I need to stay on top of, but I do enjoy a good pint!