Like I said, the burn alone which was like a rash, pretty much deterred me from ever wanting to do that again. I’m just the kind of person who has to try everything once.
Oh no, says the old hippy…you did what. Baking soda with brutons(which I have yet to try…) reminds me of an old steppenwolf song. ‘snowblind friend’ I quote here, be patient please…( 'they say it was this morning, when you last saw your good freind. Lying on the pavement with a misery on his brain. Stoned upon some potion he found upon the wall, in some unholy bathroom, in some ungodly hall. He only had a dollar to live on til next monday. So I spent it on some happiness for his mind, You say you think he’s blind") Dudes and dudettes,please oh please DON"T do this kind of tomfoolery. Damn, now maybe it is true they use lime with coca leaves in peru for some reason or another…but I think we can always buy more snuff instead of trying to cause ourselves harm like this. I sure hope I am the one idiot who thought this one was on the level and someone is laughing their butts off at my stupidity instead of actually doing this. Again, I sure hope no one would ever do something like this…please oh please…
I think bigblue1 & mrmaroon have left the building!
I think that little episode was either made up or the 10 year old that wrote it had never tried nicotine before. Even if you liberate 100% of the nicotine in a pinch of snuff you still just have…a pinch of snuff. Bicarbonate can be used in the manufacture of snuff but adding it to the finsihed product does not turn it into a cocaine like substance. The post is very influenced by ones that you see on the drug site ‘Erowid’ - which I use sometimes for work purposes. I think the little chap just wanted some attention.
I don’t know, snuffster. Mr Maroon disappeared shortly after attempting this experiment. Pfaber with his SP100 tried the same thing not long back and also dropped off the radar after agreeing that it was not a good idea. Also I would point out that extracting nicotine in the same fashion as cocaine would end in a lethal dosage. Coca in its natural state, I have read, is not really any stronger than having a cigarette and cup of coffee at the same time. Coca is pretty tame if left in the leaves, in other words.
Im not saying you cant get enough nic to harm yourself from tobacco products - you can. Albert Speer carried a crushed up cigar at Nuremburg which he intended to steep overnight in water and then drink in order to off himself if things came on top. But adding some bicarb to a pinch of snuff wont do it, it doesnt work that way. I think what you have here is someone maybe not used to nicotine adding the extremely unpleasant effects of snorting bicarb to a stromg snuff that they are not used to. Freebasing is not as simple as adding bicarb. If it was that simple the dealers would be the happiest men on Earth.
Funny, sad, disturbing read! Darwin awards it is! Although in complete fairness Pieter and myself spent most of early last winter trying to free base more nic out of Rustica in our attempt to replicate the punch of the jewel! And we were not that successful! The bicarb overwhelms the snuff even in modest amounts, too much burn, now if we had just succeeded at developing a lethal amount of nicotine, with a modest burn, we would have considered it a roaring success!.. If I had wanted a lethal amount of nic and a nasty nose burn, plain unadulterated Brutuns would do! But turbo charged Brutons is a real bad idea. Balance in all things.
Probably way more trouble than its worth. Freebasing ‘other’ things is based on various stages of cooking with other ingredients to get a precipitate - I guess if you did succeed you would be looking at a product to add to exisiting snuff to enhance the strength? Better to make snuff from scratch and make sure you get the optimum strain, cure and maturation right. That said, even if you did make some monster would it be something you would want to use? Snuff is broadly the same strength across the board for a reason I suppose. Plain SP or HDT with a dash of Kamal does it for me!
I think a lot of folk confuse nose burn with nicotine strength. That is why people think Rooster is strong and Navy Plain is not. In reality Navy plain has more nicotine and more available nicotine than Rooster.
@Nachman, I agree 100%. Same with cigarettes. I smoked Texan plain for many years and thought it was the strongest ciggy available. But, it only TASTED strong. A mild cigarette like Rembrandt Van Rhijn is much stronger nicotine wise but it does not TASTE strong. Same with snuff. Bruton “tastes” much stronger than NTSU but the latter gives a much better buzz because the nic hit is higher. I’ve stopped adding bicarb to my home made snuffs because it does not really up the nic hit. And about 95% of the time, it brings back the freshly mowed grass smell/taste.
I was joking about the 2 guys who have not returned. I don’t really think they poisoned themselves. I just find it a funny coincidence.
Yeah, I knew you weren’t suggesting 911! But that said, who knows whatever else they got the taste for?
Nachman: Your right. Usually over looked is the fact that fine snuffs have more surface area to deliver the N and given that they are very fine they burn like hell - which would give an appearance of super strength. I can use any snuff in large quantities (NOT a boast: I have used tobacco heavy since I was a kid, Im just used to is all) and I can pretty much discern no real difference in any of them. Although I do conceed every nerve in my Schnoz has propbly left on migration to my feet or something.
Related note in case this gets searched. From what I’ve read bicarbonate of soda goes in nasal snuff at 2% by weight. –> T-0:05 I have taken equal parts of baking soda and brutons. Yeah, that might be a bit much.
I personally use slacked lime in my chewing tobacco quids that i make but never have mixed it in snuff. If i want major nicotine I just dip some Ntsu black or make a quid out of chewing tobacco leaves a few different Indian snuffs, American snuffs, Indian and American chewing tobacco, and some taxi red. Then i smear the slacked lime on a tobacco leaf like they do in India with paan and roll it up and chew that. It’s very tasty but i have a high tolerance to nicotine thru over use, so i don’t know if i can recommend it to others.
I have had much better results using Kosher salt. I put in my time, kept logs, and found out for myself. Kosher Salt and a little dab will do the trick.
and never, never, ever snort staight baking soda, lol. that brings back some bad memories. Brother had a baggie of white powder shorted a big old line, brother was rolling on the floor laughing, I was rolling on the floor in pain. He then told me it was baking soda. I could have killed him if I could have caught him. That was before I put away Childish things after I had my 1st child. Now the only thing that goes up my nose is snuff and my finger occastionaly (sp).
@mustangii that is funny! That reminds me of the Cheech and Chong movie where that woman snorts the ajax. LOL!!
yeap it is funny now, live and learn. Don’t snort anything unless you know for sure what it is, lol. edm