Has anyone tried mixing baking soda with snuff? I know you can do it with moist snuff to up the nicotine blast, but is this possible with snuff?

Why, just use more snuff, sniffing baking soda doesn’t sound appealing at all.

yes, and it nearly killed me. Do not attempt. Especially if you have any kind of heart condition.

Seriously? Was it strong? What exactly did it do?

Actually I mixed a bit of Bruton’s into a paste to make sort of a loose snus. I had done this a few times and liked it. Then one day I mixed a bit of baking soda into it to see if I could absorb a faster uptake of nicotine. I could not. I spit it out after about 2 minutes and with my heart racing and head swimming I had to lay down for an hour. I have never actually sniffed any baking soda. After my last experience I would not attempt it.

So perhaps it the backing soda in crack that gets you high and not the cocaine

uh oh, now you have me curious. I will write a full report on the matter!

you’ll be sorry. I hope you mail off those trades before you kill yourself.

Here is the Baking Soda+Bruton snuff review! I will record my experience, and write down exactly how everything happens for the knowledge of future snuffers! T-0:05 I have taken equal parts of baking soda and brutons. I mix them together thoroghly. It is now prepared and ready for nasal insufflation. Before I do I think I should explain my previous history with Brutons, and my nicotine tolerance. I use Brutons regularly everyday. I snuff it at least once an hour. If I have no other snuffs on me, I snuff it 4-5 times hourly. It gives me quite a buzz in the mornings. my usual “dose” is a hearty pinch in each nostril. 2 pinches in each before bed. T-0:00 The snuff is prepared and ready for snuffing. It is a cocoa color, and I can clearly see the baking soda crystals. I will now take a pinch and see what happens! T+0:00:10 WOW WOW WOW. My head is pulsing, my nose is numb, I can’t breathe. It is hard to type. My vision is doubling. I feel like I must hold my breath and breathe as little from my nose as possible. This is the biggest buzz I have ever had. I have a burning salty taste/smell in my nose, no doubt from the baking soda. T+0:02 My nose is running profusely. It is dripping down the front of my lip no doubt, from me not wanting to breathe through my nose. T+0:03 I am blowing this shit out. T+0:03:10 OWW it burns my upper lip, and the section below my nostrils! ARM & HAMMER to the face! In conclusion, DO NOT TRY THIS. It hurts very bad! The buzz was amazing but definitly not worth the pain and discomfort!

I’ll heed your advice. I had no intention of trying this concoction.

I tried to warn you… Now I’m laughing at you, not feeliing sorry or you. Some kids just have to learn the hard way, I guess.

Add another to the don’t try this at home list.

for all you taking notes at home, this is the difference between cocaine and crack. Freeing the base, as it were… Do not do this. You can die.

I have used 1 part per 25 of aluminum free baking soda with good results. What I really want to use is ash. Aloe ash or even tobacco ash, Right now I’m under the impression that stoved tobacco does well with the soda in it.

Sorry mrmaroon, but that was soooo funny! Xander DID try and warn you…

Salt should be more effective and plays a big part in snuff production. It effects the PH. We have a shop around here specialised on salt, with a huge range. I just don´t think it can be applied on finished snuff.

quote mrmaroon: “I can’t breathe. It is hard to type. My vision is doubling.” I’m like that with laughing so much.

It’s a wonder why people even bother with Cocaine with a buzz like that, Cheaper too. You must have absorber close to 100% of the Nicotine in that snuff. The Soda makes the PH more basic right, therefore it absorbs better/more efficently.

Yep, the NaHCO 3 turns the PH to the base end of the spectrum. Whew… 100% absorbsion does not sound pretty.

Maybe sufficient for the honorable mentions section, if not the award itself (glad you survived this, mate!)Darwin awards

What I didn’t get, is why would you use half and half? I’m not sure what the objective here is, but if I was going to experiment with adding baking soda to a snuff, I would add just a little bit, not half and half.

That doesn’t sound rite to get a strong buzz with half the nicotine and a basically inert substance like sodiom bicarbonate. most snuffs are nuetral and have a ph of 7 to 7.5 or so . I could be wrong but that’s like diluting the tobacco and raising the ph a little ,baking sodas ph is 8.2 . I think the buzz was from changing the ph in ur brain .u live and learn I guess.What I would have done was extract nicotine with a solvant , filter and dry and have pure nicotine to snort.nicotine crystaline powder! I’ll work on it .

Baking soda makes the nicotine absorb rate go up… way up. You might want to hold off on the nicotine powder… it would be like taking poison, possibly deadly.

Yea nicotine is poisen but I would have to eat 15 grams of tobacco or equivelant in nicotine to begin to start dying depending on ur tolerance.I would only use about a gram of tobacco to screw arould with if even that much.

This interests me greatly. I doubt I will try it, but it just sounds amazing. I do have some baking soda sitting around though… ~Ken

Anything for the name of science!

I was catching a slight buzz when I cut my tobacco out of the field-pretty nice actually! There again, I’ve heard that’s something you must also be careful of, the absorption factor.

Ive tried getting my hands wet and spreading brutons on them, but it didn’t do anything to me. I wonder how long you need to keep it there?

I think that baking soda experiment messed you up more than we realized.

@Xander LOL !! When I was reading his experiment , I was picturing mrmaroon’s upper sinuses like a coffee percolator…very funny!!

You crazy guys!

I agree w/ toffeenose. Someone is going to kill themself.

the body is pretty bad at apsorbing nicotine from the leave. So adding something that makes it easier to absorb could be very dangerous. If anyone kills themselves with a stupid snuff experiement I’ll personaly kill them again becuase if that happens no matter how stupid you are being, guess what will happen? Thats right you’ll have given perfect fuel to jerk-offs to point out the dangers of this new tobacco product.

I’d like to point out I was only kidding about making some kind of extraction form of nicotine and I don’t suggest anyone fool with this stuff because it is highly poisonous and is deadly in high doses and such extractions and enhanced methods of administration should only be done with safer ,more enjoyable plants and substances

hey guys , what the hell is baking soda?

Here you go Ap

I just want to point out that not once during this “experiment” did I feel my life was threatened in any way. I also don’t feel I did any wrong by trying it, I am an adult. I think the posts about people killing and dying were more of a joke than anything.

@matsnuffs Thanks for the link buddy.

mrmaroon, nope. I wasn’t joking, although I WAS (probably rightly) assuming you wouldn’t go so far as to kill yourself. You definitely can kill yourself basing nicotine. For those of you who want to up the absorption rate, DMSO. It makes things absorb through your skin. A lot. But as mentioned above, don’t get carried away. We don’t want to add more fuel to the anti-tobacco fire.

@ap, My pleasure! I know that this was just an experiment, and I found the results fascinating, but I also agree that we probably shouldn’t be free basing our snuffs, for a variety of reasons! Oh my, what the anti-tobacco folks would say if they discovered snuffers doing this regularly!

Like I said, the burn alone which was like a rash, pretty much deterred me from ever wanting to do that again. I’m just the kind of person who has to try everything once.

Oh no, says the old hippy…you did what. Baking soda with brutons(which I have yet to try…) reminds me of an old steppenwolf song. ‘snowblind friend’ I quote here, be patient please…( 'they say it was this morning, when you last saw your good freind. Lying on the pavement with a misery on his brain. Stoned upon some potion he found upon the wall, in some unholy bathroom, in some ungodly hall. He only had a dollar to live on til next monday. So I spent it on some happiness for his mind, You say you think he’s blind") Dudes and dudettes,please oh please DON"T do this kind of tomfoolery. Damn, now maybe it is true they use lime with coca leaves in peru for some reason or another…but I think we can always buy more snuff instead of trying to cause ourselves harm like this. I sure hope I am the one idiot who thought this one was on the level and someone is laughing their butts off at my stupidity instead of actually doing this. Again, I sure hope no one would ever do something like this…please oh please…

I think bigblue1 & mrmaroon have left the building!

I think that little episode was either made up or the 10 year old that wrote it had never tried nicotine before. Even if you liberate 100% of the nicotine in a pinch of snuff you still just have…a pinch of snuff. Bicarbonate can be used in the manufacture of snuff but adding it to the finsihed product does not turn it into a cocaine like substance. The post is very influenced by ones that you see on the drug site ‘Erowid’ - which I use sometimes for work purposes. I think the little chap just wanted some attention.

I don’t know, snuffster. Mr Maroon disappeared shortly after attempting this experiment. Pfaber with his SP100 tried the same thing not long back and also dropped off the radar after agreeing that it was not a good idea. Also I would point out that extracting nicotine in the same fashion as cocaine would end in a lethal dosage. Coca in its natural state, I have read, is not really any stronger than having a cigarette and cup of coffee at the same time. Coca is pretty tame if left in the leaves, in other words.

Im not saying you cant get enough nic to harm yourself from tobacco products - you can. Albert Speer carried a crushed up cigar at Nuremburg which he intended to steep overnight in water and then drink in order to off himself if things came on top. But adding some bicarb to a pinch of snuff wont do it, it doesnt work that way. I think what you have here is someone maybe not used to nicotine adding the extremely unpleasant effects of snorting bicarb to a stromg snuff that they are not used to. Freebasing is not as simple as adding bicarb. If it was that simple the dealers would be the happiest men on Earth.

Funny, sad, disturbing read! Darwin awards it is! Although in complete fairness Pieter and myself spent most of early last winter trying to free base more nic out of Rustica in our attempt to replicate the punch of the jewel! And we were not that successful! The bicarb overwhelms the snuff even in modest amounts, too much burn, now if we had just succeeded at developing a lethal amount of nicotine, with a modest burn, we would have considered it a roaring success!.. If I had wanted a lethal amount of nic and a nasty nose burn, plain unadulterated Brutuns would do! But turbo charged Brutons is a real bad idea. Balance in all things.

Probably way more trouble than its worth. Freebasing ‘other’ things is based on various stages of cooking with other ingredients to get a precipitate - I guess if you did succeed you would be looking at a product to add to exisiting snuff to enhance the strength? Better to make snuff from scratch and make sure you get the optimum strain, cure and maturation right. That said, even if you did make some monster would it be something you would want to use? Snuff is broadly the same strength across the board for a reason I suppose. Plain SP or HDT with a dash of Kamal does it for me!

I think a lot of folk confuse nose burn with nicotine strength. That is why people think Rooster is strong and Navy Plain is not. In reality Navy plain has more nicotine and more available nicotine than Rooster.

@Nachman, I agree 100%. Same with cigarettes. I smoked Texan plain for many years and thought it was the strongest ciggy available. But, it only TASTED strong. A mild cigarette like Rembrandt Van Rhijn is much stronger nicotine wise but it does not TASTE strong. Same with snuff. Bruton “tastes” much stronger than NTSU but the latter gives a much better buzz because the nic hit is higher. I’ve stopped adding bicarb to my home made snuffs because it does not really up the nic hit. And about 95% of the time, it brings back the freshly mowed grass smell/taste.

I was joking about the 2 guys who have not returned. I don’t really think they poisoned themselves. I just find it a funny coincidence.

Yeah, I knew you weren’t suggesting 911! But that said, who knows whatever else they got the taste for?

Nachman: Your right. Usually over looked is the fact that fine snuffs have more surface area to deliver the N and given that they are very fine they burn like hell - which would give an appearance of super strength. I can use any snuff in large quantities (NOT a boast: I have used tobacco heavy since I was a kid, Im just used to is all) and I can pretty much discern no real difference in any of them. Although I do conceed every nerve in my Schnoz has propbly left on migration to my feet or something.

Related note in case this gets searched. From what I’ve read bicarbonate of soda goes in nasal snuff at 2% by weight. –> T-0:05 I have taken equal parts of baking soda and brutons. Yeah, that might be a bit much.

I personally use slacked lime in my chewing tobacco quids that i make but never have mixed it in snuff. If i want major nicotine I just dip some Ntsu black or make a quid out of chewing tobacco leaves a few different Indian snuffs, American snuffs, Indian and American chewing tobacco, and some taxi red. Then i smear the slacked lime on a tobacco leaf like they do in India with paan and roll it up and chew that. It’s very tasty but i have a high tolerance to nicotine thru over use, so i don’t know if i can recommend it to others.

I have had much better results using Kosher salt. I put in my time, kept logs, and found out for myself. Kosher Salt and a little dab will do the trick.

and never, never, ever snort staight baking soda, lol. that brings back some bad memories. Brother had a baggie of white powder shorted a big old line, brother was rolling on the floor laughing, I was rolling on the floor in pain. He then told me it was baking soda. I could have killed him if I could have caught him. That was before I put away Childish things after I had my 1st child. Now the only thing that goes up my nose is snuff and my finger occastionaly (sp).

@mustangii that is funny! That reminds me of the Cheech and Chong movie where that woman snorts the ajax. LOL!!

yeap it is funny now, live and learn. Don’t snort anything unless you know for sure what it is, lol. edm