I am a newbie in the snuff taking world.I use it almost daily,but in my country(romania) snuff seems to be in decline.It used to be that you could find multiple types of snuff on almost all online retailers and sometimes even at the local tabacco shop.In the last 3-4 months the local snuff stock began to decrease,and now you can find only 2 poschl types of snuff on 2-3 online retailers.How is the situation in your area?
Well, @StevenSpark, at least you have locally available snuff. Here in the North Eastern US, there is none. Back 8 or 9 years ago some of the local tobacco shops used to carry the little tap box tins of Silver Dollar (which I understand was Toque’s US export brand), which is how I got started. Now, one has to go mail order or know someone in the Southern US where American snuff is sold locally.
strange laws in the us.you can order snuff online(or any smokeless) from uk but not from local producers.have you ever met another snuff taker in person?
I have not, to my recollection ever met another snuff enthusiast in the wild. I will admit to having gotten a co-worker started with it, so I do know at least one other person who enjoys it. The vast majority of folks to whom I offer a bump (as etiquette dictates) immediately decline. My standard patter when asked WTH I’m putting up my nose is something to the effect of “this is nasal snuff, which is powdered tobacco. You will most likely hate it, but on the off chance you do like it, you will really, REALLY like it”. I remind my friend that I gave him this exact warning (repeatedly), when he tries to say I got him addicted.
In fact, Americans are not allowed to import snuff… But most orders slip through.
The domestic sales and cross-border distance sales of nasal and oral tobacco products are banned at my side (the wider Baltics - Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland. However, before July 01, 2021 LT and LV customs didn’t care about mailed parcels with smokeless tobacco products and anyone could order anything. In contrast, EE and FI customs were more scrupulous and being fined for illicit import there wasn’t unheard of.
Now that (after July 01, 2021) online ordering smokeless from outside the EU is not a thing for me anymore, I have fully switched to homemade snuff and snus. Whole leaf (yes, they ship within the EU!) and still relatively cheap additives-free rolling tobacco and cigars to the rescue! Snuff making 101, Old snuff recipes.
i find that most people like the idea that it doesn t have smoke but very few actually try it
i didn’t try to make my own but i will surely do in the future!
I think a part of it is also the “baggage” the act of insufflating brings with it. Those not in the know (which is 99.99% of folks, around here, anyway) invariably think cocaine is the only drug insufflated.
and it isn’t like they understand the method of administration.inhaling smoke into your lungs is very similar with injecting the drug directly into your veins<smoke has an almost instant absorbtion in the alveoli of the lungs,which goes directly into the blood from the lungs> but yeah,snuffing is viewed as more extreme by some.ok,snorting cocaine but how about smoking it?or injecting it,which is shockingly similar to inhaling into the lungs?i understand that smoked cocaine has a worse reputation in the US,right?why isn’t it the same with nicotine or tabaco in general
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Folks I wish people and especially snuff newbies on Reddit wouldn’t give a shit about how popular is snuff (which is not). Why the need to make snuff popular back again and “sAvE peOple frOm bad cigArettEs” ??
I think the last years with the new snuff youtubers “pushing” nasal snuff videos to people who didn’t knew about it (increasing awareness about nasal snuff on youtube) or newbies on reddit preaching about how everyone should snuff is the reason that one day the big companies and anti-tobacco laws will spot this old forgotten form of tobacco and ban it.
Also the mindset of a niewbie snuff taker “everyone needs to begin taking snuff its the best form of tobacco” is so wrong it reminds me of the stoner pot-head stereotypes that tell everyone they know to smoke weed because its the best lol. There isnt any “super product” really that anyone needs to try and just because it helps someone for a certain time doesnt mean you are missing something.
Nasal snuff is pure enjoyment, hobby, passion for many of us and lets let it be that. I never met a cigar smoker preaching others to start his hobby. We are a small but strong community! We dont need to be more popular.
Give a traditional tobacco product much attention on internet and soon enough you will get it ban, these days.
Personally I dont want everyone to know about snuff, I just want snuff to be available in the future and not banned by anti-tobacco waves in the next 10 years.
As long as people are making nasal snuff more popular, nasal snuff will one day get banned by the anti-tobacco laws etc.
Think about it mates. Food for thought.
Don’t get me wrong,we are on same page here.Snuff shouldn’t be too popular because big tabacco will ruin it sooner than the goverment,in my opinion.I too want to be available in the future but in my country it did the oposite,the variety shrank hard.
If you want snuff to survive,you have to at least bring some awareness because most people don’t even know it exists.Nasal snuff has some big pros compared with other forms of tabacco and it can help some people.
Think about it .If your country/region ,nasal snuff would have the popularity it has in uk/germany(about 1% of general population),the selection will increase without intervention from big tabacoo/goverment.
Or we start making homemade snuff,which isn’t a bad idea at all!
nasal snuff isnt a magical theraputical thing nor is it healthy or for everyone. We should protect our hobby in this small strong community.
Increasing awareness of old traditional tobacco products like snuff can only lead its extinction, in this time of era that we live in. They will replace it maybe with some fake tobacco nicotine snuffs or wipe it totally off the market sooner or later if it will become popular.
Like do you believe that if it was more popular would anyone praise it? of course not mate, most people will focus on the side effects and will treat it like cigarettes.
I am talking about the bigger picture here.
Think about it… I think of snuff as cigars… its not for everyone and it shouldnt be. The less the better.
That’s a good point regarding the camparison with cigars.I will add pipes to that.
Nicotine is also facing an increase in what it seems to be “utilitarian”,people who use it more like coffeine,for a boost in focus.Andrew Huberman made a great podcast about it’s uses.It isn’t magical,but can be used therapeutically/utilitarian,not just for the sake of being addicted like it is with cigs.
People will not treat it like cigs.You dont inhale smoke into your lungs,no second or third hand smoke,no 6000 additional substances that come with nic/other alkaloids.But maybe you’re right,it doesn’t have to be mainstream.
Its just my opinion mate!
I just think its stupid to be overhyped about anything.
To each their own. Who am I to say to people to use snuff instead of cigarettes? Am I 100% sure about the minimal side effects? No . So i will never promote snuff to anyone as I will not promote cigarettes or any kind of habit to anyone.
I can only advise others to cut cigarettes not to add a new addiction to their life.
You know that the person is a real goofball if he pushes to other people everything new that he discovers. Like you just discovered snuff for yourself and without seeing how it affects you short and long-term you advise others to use it?? Thats hellish. Its like the pot-head stereotype that keeps telling you everyday to smoke some weed because for them is “the best thing” lol. You cant help anyone with something that you havent tested for yourself for real. Thats so irresponsible. And especially its is wrong to advice people to jump on a new addiction.
Also, snuff is classy and with all that culture and history behind it that I would hate if it ever (which will not happen) get popular/ mainstream. It is for those who know.
Thats my point of view.
How theraputical or utilitarian is something (herbs etc) is completely subjective.
hey man i am a newb but not that new.Been using snuff for several months now.I said what i said because i was a smoker for 2 years befor(cigs,inhaled into the lungs).You can’t compare those two.The addiction when inhaling into the lungs is very similiar to injecting into the veins,and that’s not coming from me,my own father is a doctor and i heard it from other profesionals in this field.Whould i recommend snuff to anyone ?no.Are you a smoker?get off cigs.Do you want nicotine for it’s uses with a much less dangerous addiction if you do it every day?Snuff.Pipes or cigars once in a while.Maybe vapes,if you don’t inhale into your lungs.
You are a moderate man,it seems.A pot smoker once preached to you something,(eat the weed,don’t smoke it)i understand(it once happend to me with a vegan).
Snuff is a great way to use nic/tabacco and should not be viewed the same as cigs.you know,we have some evidence for the used of nic,it’s not subjective,look it up.
yeah exactly dont be that vegan guy trying to push their habbits to others lol.
I was not referring to you mate. I get your point of view.
I know about the researches mate I am scientist too.
But mate nicotine alone doees so much bad to the brain and the heart vessels in the long term. So I cant advise anyone to get into it.
“Do you want nicotine for it’s uses with a much less dangerous addiction if you do it every day?Snuff.Pipes or cigars once in a while.”
I disagree because of nicotine’s bad well known effects on heart vessels and brain. Also pipes and cigars arent that safe too. Einstein died from blood vessel burst near his heart from pipe smoking.
I would advise that person who wants nicotine for it’s uses with a much less dangerous addiction to stop dreaming and get grounded and to cut nicotine down. There isnt any magic in nicotine to begin with. It can only make you focus a bit or relax a bit. Thats all. Not worth it.
Seriously, choosing what tobacco/ nicotine product is the “best” is literally like choosing the knife with which you are gonna stab yourself.
There are differences between each knife but all are gonna damage you.
but we can agree that inhaling condensate with nic into one’s lungs is much worse than the other knifes,right?:))
great conversation mate,i really liked it.I am sorry if i made some preachy statements.i myself enjoy snuff much more after a period of abstinence (it never felt like cig addiction).It seems to almost eveyone views nic usage as an addiction,when it can be used in a productive manner.take it or leave it.
yes mate exactly I agree. Snuff at least is not that big of a knife like cigarettes. But I like the knife and stabbing analogy because after all nicotine has many bad side effects.
it seems.i treat snuff and coffeine the same.do they have benefits?yes.but if you use them eveyday:
1.tolerance will decrease the benefits and increase the bad side effects
2.the quality of life will decrease over time
soo it’s best for them not to become a regular thing,maybe 2-3 times a week,1-2 week per month?