I am addicted on all counts!
I agree with the sentiment that it out weighs any negatives. And I’am with dogwalla about it being less problematic to the sideeffects of psychiatiric drugs.
I started smoking as a teen then switched to dipping in the USMC because we ran so much. Over the many many years that I have fought to quit, I realized that I am addicted and love nicotine. I think finding snuff and snus was the best thing that happened to me. After trying every prescription on the market known to man to quit smoking and dipping and all the relapses I finally realize that I will be using nicotine the rest of my life. And honestly I am happy and love it since I have found snuff. I know the main reasons I was so concerned with my love of nicotine was because of the health risks, especially being so into working out and fitness. With snuff I get my beloved nicotine plus so much more and I know that it doesn’t affect my health. Umm Yea Snuffer For Life!
I am 110 percent addicted.Not to snuff or dip or cigarettes[although I have immensely enjoyed each] but to nicotine.Cigs were my first true addiction,after 20 plus years they started to bother my breathing and stamina so I went to dip which after only a few years started to show signs of eating up my gums.Now Im on almost exclusively snuff.You know what? If tomorrow I woke up and for some reason all my snuff was gone and it was impossible to buy any more Id go rite back to dip,even knowing the consequences.if I woke up again and the same thing happened with dip Id go rite out and buy a carton of Marlboros also knowing the consequences full well no joke.My nicotine addiction is so intense Im lucky I can go 10/15 minutes after a snuff/dip/smoke without craving another.When I smoked I was in the 2 plus pack per day crowd.If I try to go even a few hours without a hit of nicotine my attitude turns to $hit and I cant concentrate…because my mind is so busy worrying when my next hit is coming. I have resigned myself to the fact that this is just a fact of life for me.There is absolutely nothing that is going to change it…I have tried it all.Now its more about risk managment than anything else for me.Dont get me wrong Im not trying to be a bummer either about this but the truth is…what a beautiful day it would be if I woke up with no addiction or craving for nicotine,and if that happened I would never touch a tobacco product again so long as I live as I would never want to start the viscious cycle over again.
Yeah I can get through work without snuff but I went to Washington the other day and left my snuff at home, 24 hours without a pinch and it took all my damn willpower to avoid bumming a cigarette or buying a pack, I was very much craving. I’m glad I was craving snuff and not cigarettes though, I just wanted a cigarette because I knew it’d tide me over. At the same time though, if I could push a magic button that would eliminate all craving for nicotine, I wouldn’t press it. I really do enjoy snuff. The scents and stimulation are worth the addiction for me. Tobacco is addictive for a reason: it’s extremely pleasurable.
if I could push a magic button that would eliminate all craving for nicotine, I wouldn’t press it. I really do enjoy snuff. The scents and stimulation are worth the addiction for me. Tobacco is addictive for a reason: it’s extremely pleasurable.
I agree 
I would be okay with giving up nicotine. I do not want to give up tobacco. If I could enjoy tobacco without the nicotine I likely would. I prefer lower nicotine pipe tobaccos, I try to limit my extra strong snus intake, but snuff for me is all about the same. I get a bigger hit with bigger pinches, but I don’t find any major difference in nic levels of all the snuffs I’ve tried. Although I do notice the lack of nicotine in my home grinds.
Many of us are using tobacco because it improves our ability to cope with life. I have high-functioning autism; nicotine is very definitely medicinal for me. With it I have enough ability to make plans and carry them out, without it I would be a basket case capable of little more than sitting under a tree contemplating my navel. Don’t ask me how I know this, lol.
I do find tobacco and particularly snuff to be the best treatment for anxiety in myself. I don’t normally get much anxiety but if things start going wrong then the anxiety ramps up for me pretty quickly. Tobacco has always been an instant cure for that kind of anxiety in me and allows me to relax even under pressure, without it my mind tends to worry about a problem ad infinitum.
I stopped smoking with snuff, but if I have to go without snuff I don’t get any of the withdrawal that I got with cigs. Leads me to believe there is a more complicated and malign addiction chemistry going on with smoked tobacco. Thank God I’m off the damned things now.
delivery method can certainily cause diffrent effects upon addiction. Injecting an opiate for instance does lead to addiction faster (just as bad when you get there, but the trips faster). So it’s very possible snuffing would have a diffrent withdraw patern.
I would almost say that the snuff ‘addiction’ is mostly psychological - when going without you are missing a pleasant experience, but not climbing the walls. I think it has more to do than simple speed of delivery or uptake into the bloodstream, there are hundreds of chemicals in cigarette smoke, probably a handful in a pinch of snuff?
I was reading a article about “Free Nicotine” in smokeless tobacco and wonder if it has something to do with the amount needed to form a withdraw feeling from snuff. It was determined by the product and some that had high nicotine levels only had a modest amount of free nicotine. Still learning about it
I read something about that earlier today. The chart said that Skoal STOMPED every other brand for bound nicotine, but only a small part of it was free nicotine, so Copenhagen has less bound nicotine, but it was actually quite a bit stronger. I found it fascinating.
Might be the same chart. Bruton had a higher nicotine level than Railroad Mills but a smaller free nicotine level I agree it is something that is interesting
Yep snuff and dip are the only reason I was able to get off opiates and Kukaine. Pretty gross things to mention on this board but its only the truth, and it’s a good one. Love you snuff, love you dip.
And I think it’s bruton that has higher free nicotine and less overall nicotine. Railroad mills has an idiotic ph of 6.35 (slightly acidic, what were they thinking?!) and bruton has a ph of around 8 As for dip the highest freebase nicotine you’ll find is copenhagen snuff and kodiak wintergreen. Of course these are the only ones I’ll spend money on! “Bound” nicotine is worthless trash!
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Thank goodness, I have never been addicted to smoking. From what I understand, American tobacco companies add all kinds of addictive chemicals to cigarettes and dip. When you try to quit, it is much more than breaking a mere addiction to nicotine. I got into snus because it was about as harmful as a cup of coffee, and I greatly enjoy tobacco. I tried stopping for a few days and that was definitely hard, but very doable. I went back on my merry snusing way. Until I got invisalign braces. Those have made snusing impossible for me, because the tobacco gets trapped under the braces and they turn brown, which then stays next to my teeth. I have since switched to snuff. Snuff is interesting, in that I take less snuff than I did snus, but never get any cravings. Stressful day at work, I could go through 14 snus portions, easy. I got the craving for more when it had been too long. Contrast this with snuff. I’ll have maybe six or seven bumps a day, but I never crave nicotine. It’s always because I enjoy the flavor, nothing else. My only question is how long this will continue…
I honestly find the internet as the catalyst for most of tobacco usage. I may log on to youtube and see a pipe review, then I need to have a pipe. Or see one of my pipes and get the craving for it. But I have gone days without it and sometimes dont really feel the need. It is something to do to keep my mind occupied. When I am out and about, working, or just doing something, I do not feel the constant craving for a pipe. Snuff is a little different for me considering I dont need to go outside, or deal with the smell (I am a big fan of Latakia) on me for a while afterwards. So the fact that it is discreet probably adds to the fact that I use it more often. I have some snuffs for enjoyment, and others to just get a jolt of the blessed Vitamin N. It calms me, but I dont think I have ever gotten the “stimulant” or concentration affects from it that some people talk of. I actually feel lethargic when it is a big dose, and have to pick myself up to get work done. I love the blessed tobacco leaf and do not wish it to leave my life. I am conscious of the affects on my body, but I try and regulate it. I have yet to feel personally any negative health affects from my tobacco usage. But that may change with time. Just my two cents…