not me I’am glad I’am addicted to nicotine. Like I said certain people are more prone to nicotine addiction, they’re the same people nicotine helps the most. I’am already a scatter brained person who’s mind moves a little to fast to follow, nicotine helps with that. I imagine most of us have some similar factor in our biologies. Think about this it explain your friends that only use nicotine when drinking. That the one time it helps them, ever notice they act like they’re addicted when drunk. Just some food for thought. To me being addicted to nicotine isn’t a sad thing, it’s part of my make up and nature. I feel to be upset about it would be like a man with one leg wishing he never tried a prothesis, cause he can’t get on without it.
nicotine also good for digestive system. I know some people who go to WC after a few breath from their cigarettes SupremeCOJP maybe you are right. My father has smoked since my babyhood and i remember i took a breath from his cigarette when i was 4 years old but i officially start smoking when i was 17.
@snuffbrant I am glad that you posted it the way you did. Those of us that are addicted can convince ourselves of anything that we want but I don’t think that I would feel good if someone read this thread and thought “Gee, I can do snuff and not have an addiction from it” There is no age verification on this site and guests frequent it often As for nicotine itself, it has been used in many forms to be helpful but I have never heard of long term exposure as non-addicting. Just my side of the road
@bob but I wonder what you would have been if you never started. What you might have done to release the energy or what hyper thinking could achieve. The world will never know. I am like you in the respect that once hooked, I understand the need and wish to go on feeding it but thanks to this forum, without cigarettes
@MattheFox - bob is funny, i attributed his comment to his sunny side up perspective … but your point made about not knowing if he had never tried it is what i thought as well. but yeah, now that we are hooked, there are many ways we can turn the negative into a positive and rationalize the addiction.
@bob is cool
probably not as awesome that’s for sure
No, I went into smoking knowing full well the dangers, risks and consequences. I expected addiction and even looked forward to it. I was actually surprised when it didn’t happen right away, and more surprised when it took years to settle in. In fact when I first started smoking kept thinking “what’s the big deal with this, I don’t seem to be getting anything out of it.” I began taking snuff not to escape from smoking, but simply out of curiosity. When I saw that it could replace smoking with a modicum of effort from myself, my rational sense kicked in and convinced me that I should do so for the health benefits. I still love the addiction, because its what allows me to enjoy it. No feathers ruffled, just a different outlook.
@snuffbrant addiction per se, doesn’t scare me and I don’t think it is necessarily a bad thing. It depends what I’m addicted to and the negative effects its having on my body that matter. I’m an ex cocaine addict and that addiction scared the hell out of me and cost my health dearly. I’m also an alcoholic and that scares me too. However I’m really proud of myself for giving up smoking and consider the potential harmful effects of snuff and snus to be worth the enjoyment I get from them and am not scared by these addictions. I’m also addicted to curry. Another addiction I don’t mind at all as its not really doing me any harm. I’m also addicted, psychologically, to cannabis and again am perfectly happy with that because I believe the risk to health does not outweigh the pleasure. My point is addiction is not necessarily harmful or in some cases the risk from an addiction is low enough for me not to worry about it. I’m still fighting my alcoholism. Managed five months last year off the booze but I’m drinking again at the moment. I’m going to try and get back on the wagon very soon though because the health dangers of alcohol are very real and potentially very serious. You only live once. I want to enjoy my life but not needlessly put myself in harms way so some addictions I will fight and others I am totally happy with. Snuff is one ‘addiction’ that I don’t lose any sleep over. I love it and see it as relatively safe and have no desire to get smokeless nicotine out of my life. If I could press a button and turn off my nicotine addiction, I would not do it.
@SnuffySnuff I wish you all the goodwill on fighting your addictions and winning
Thank you.
i “sort of” get your position @SnuffySnuff … still cloudy to me, but no matter. I wish you all the best in your battle(s). I do have to comment on being “addicted” to curry … funny. but … really … not an addiction. that is love - and i would debate any physical or psychological withdrawal symptoms from curry. you are well aware of your addictions … and they are tough indeed. in the end, yeah, being addicted to nicotine over cocaine or alcohol is a very rational trade-off. i’d take that. … reminder, this is not a referendum on snuff(or nicotine for that matter), i love snuff, i am grateful snuff and snus are reasonable forms of getting my nic-fix… it is more a commentary on how the thread began, i.e. one is not addicted … and is curious whether he/she will become addicted to nicotine. and for my money, i wish i wasn’t addicted to cigs/nicotine. i am not giving up snuff or snus, now that i have found myself in this predicament, but … if i never would have had to rely on them in the first place, would i have been happy? … to this i answer emphatically, hell yes!
I agree the curry thing is more love than addiction. But I eat curry nearly every day. I couldn’t imagine life without it and it would cause me mental anguish if I had to go without it, so in a sense it is a kind of addiction. Not unlike chocolate addiction or coco-cola addiction. Just because it’s a food/drink doesn’t mean you can’t be psychologically addicted to it, iykwim.
I have a little different take on the benefits of nicotine than what I’ve seen expressed here: For me it is beneficial. I was born with ADHD and took Ritalin until I was twelve, and as much as I hated that stuff, it did improve my concentration. Well, when I was pulled off the Ritalin, my life fell apart; I didn’t do well in school, and I was so unpleasant it was no fun to be around me. Nicotine made all the difference in the world; it not only improved my concentration, but made me much less moody. In a word, nicotine allows me to be functional. As far as “addiction” goes, I must admit I miss the stuff when I’ve tried to quit, but it’s nothing I can’t handle. What I can’t handle is feeling just like I did when I was twelve, which is exactly what happens. For me, tobacco is an unmitigated blessing. I’m guessing I’ve found the reason some Indian tribes considered the stuff a gift from the gods.
Dunnyveg for me it’s a blessing for my bi-polarness. Doesn’t stop it but keeps it out of the stupid range.
@bob I hear you there. I’m saddled just about every label they can throw at me, and the problem is the nic really does help. The amount of people with psychiatric issues that use nicotine is staggering. It’s a self-administered anxiety drug that you can use while operating heavy machinery. Some of the prescription stuff is a nightmare. Nic withdrawal is nothing compared to the brain shivers from SSRI/SNRI changes in my opinion. I just have a choice about smoking. I guess I shouldn’t be so down about the addiction part. Everyone thinks it’s ok that I’m ‘hooked’ on 7 different prescribed drugs, but since it’s under doctor’s supervision it’s ok. Smoking isn’t ok because it wangs my lungs, but one of my meds can cause brain shrinkage which is somehow better for me. Health risk vs side-effect I guess. If I didn’t work for a place that does heavy drug testing (and I love my job more than I ever thought possible) I would abuse just about everything I could get my hands on. The only good news is that all of my drugs enhance the effects of alcohol, so one shot of bourbon and I have to be helped to the bedroom. Hahahaha
i am in the same camp as you all - diagnosed with bipolar 2 and depression - and yes, nicotine has helped. as my son is ADD/ADHD, i can see where i could be as well - hence my heavy nicotine dependence. and yeah, i feel gratitude towards tobacco and nicotine, better living through chemistry … and this is where addiction, brain chemistry, genetics, etc. come into play … this is why some get addicted and feel great and why others don’t really need it in the same way.
So far I’m pleased with the physical effects. It makes me less likely to overeat, and I find I’ve been sleeping better, probably because it raises my energy during the day. Eating too much and not getting enough sleep are major health concerns, while snuff and everything in it does not appear to be one. Also the protective effect of nicotine against Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s are all but confirmed, and I’d rather have nicotine addiction than either of those. Scientifically I’m convinced that humans have evolved to benefit from small amounts of nicotine, as well as salicylate. Early humans were always chewing bark and leaves, something modern man no longer does. The salicylate (found in bark) is used in many important processes in the body, and the proven benefits of a daily aspirin seem hard to beat. And many tropical leaves contain nicotine. Salicylate may possibly be reclassified as a vitamin, and when you guys say “Vitamin N” you might not be joking! The only question- what is the ideal dose? I suspect we’re getting a bit less nicotine than a smoker does, unless we’re snuffing non-stop.
Who doesn’t still chew leaves and bark?
Don’t just think about nicotine… How much time do you spend on this board? How often do you peruse Mr. Snuff’s site? How much snuff do you have in the house? There’s more than one type of snuff addiction!