The New International Snuff-Takers' Association

Gentlemen, we live in the free world. If people want to start an organization or group that includes some and excludes others, for whatever reason, it is their right to do so.

Gentlemen, we live in the free world.

Free world??? where is that?

Point taken. Thank you. Apparently, some folks right here on Snuffhouse live in a world where they can start an organization that includes some and excludes others. And others, like myself, think it’s great. Of course, when viewed in terms of metaphysics, a strong case can be made to show that freedom is an illusion, myth, or pipe dream. On the other hand, many of us enjoy a good degree of liberty (as opposed to freedom) in the political sense under certain governments, while many of us under other governments have very little liberty. And then again, some people under a particular government may have more liberty while others (for example, minorities) under the same government have almost no liberty. But freedom itself may not exist at all. In that sense, to be sure, there would be no such thing as a free world. I can see I need a few more bumps of snuff so that I can stop writing this drivel. 8-}

@fredhanna, if you aren’t careful, I’ll start quoting Jean-Paul Sartre at you.

@fredhanna, if you aren’t careful, I’ll start quoting Jean-Paul Sartre at you.

Yikes! Please don’t do that @JakartaBoy! Unless, of course, you think that we are “condemned to be free.” :wink:

My advice to you @fredhanna is get married: if you find a good wife you’ll be happy, if not, you’ll become a philosopher. - Socrates in both cases you can dreaming freedom for free - Nikolaos

Thank you @Nikolaos!

YOU! My friends, cannot join the organization that does not exist. But where two or more have got together there it is. The radicals that are free to be attracted can move closer with time being their freedom. With this time we can see the illusion. Otherwise what are we?

been dipping into the Bohica again @Juxtaposer? Free radicals, lol.

Well, I’m a three year member, and I’m also assistant manager at a large tobacconist where I’m pretty much the only snuff guy on staff. Could you use me?

@firemarth and anyone else interested, yes. Please send a PM to our membership coordinator and elected spokesman @basement_shaman

Point taken. Thank you. Apparently, some folks right here on Snuffhouse live in a world where they can start an organization that includes some and excludes others. And others, like myself, think it’s great. Of course, when viewed in terms of metaphysics, a strong case can be made to show that freedom is an illusion, myth, or pipe dream. On the other hand, many of us enjoy a good degree of liberty (as opposed to freedom) in the political sense under certain governments, while many of us under other governments have very little liberty. And then again, some people under a particular government may have more liberty while others (for example, minorities) under the same government have almost no liberty. But freedom itself may not exist at all. In that sense, to be sure, there would be no such thing as a free world. I can see I need a few more bumps of snuff so that I can stop writing this drivel. 8-}

You only have the “rights” (freedom) that you are willing to assert-- I assert mine. Fully. Philosophical bollocks –

Can I have a list of current members?

ssshhh, it’s seekret, if they told you they’d have to kill you, lol.

No secrets. Even naysayers are welcome. We need enthusiastic talented individuals to make this project work. Now more than ever. Please send your applications. Current roster: @Abraxas @basement_shaman @bigmick @bob @crullers @doctorbeat @ermtony @Harlequin @Jari_T @Johnny @Justin @Khalid @kidnapper @Koba22 @Kurtsnose @Lunecat @Miamimark @n9inchnails @puffpuff @Roderick @sixphoto @Theboggart @Thorgrimnr @Xander

Clearly I don’t understand the difference between ISTA and Snuffhouse. How do the aims of the two groups diverge sufficiently enough to justify excluding plain old snuff users? Why keep their discussions secret? Wouldn’t an open thread dedicated strictly to the aims of the group work just as well?

@Mouse when something dress up with privacy seems to be more attractive and protected from tepidity I don’t know what is the best weapon of ISTA, is privacy? but i know well that the best weapon of a Snuff community should be the weapon of openness. Secrecy once accepted becomes an addiction.

Private, yes. Secret, no. There is a difference. There is no privilege in being in the ISTA. Its work. The mission of the ISTA is as above. The mission of Snuffhouse is simply to converse with fellow snuff enthusiasts and share information. Most ISTA conversation so far has only revolved around bureaucratic topics, such as voting and organizing mission statements, purpose, direction,mottos, logos, etc. There is little talk of snuff or anything most would consider fun, and it would not be of interest to the general Snuffhouse community. If you are interested in the above topics, you are welcome to apply.

Man, as I look back, we all qualify as free radicals!

@number_seven Couldn’t agree more! I don’t know why people get all wrapped up in “commercialism”. Commerce is one of the most powerful and glorious features of human society. I am grateful that there are at least a few folks who are willing to accept my money and send me some snuff, as there are not many people who will. And besides, even when Dave might promote his snuff retail business on a snuff web forum, he is simply trying to do his job, as a snuff retailer, well. It is no more or less “corrupt” or “subversive” than you trying to do well at your job, whatever it may be.