Me too, tom. I’m excited to try Sun Snuff.
I’m yet another Indophile. Have to admit that if I went to Rajasthan, probably most of my cash would go to buying Kurtas. (I’d save a little for Snuff.)
I used to wear a kurta and dhoti and kopan, with a chaddar, if I spelled that right. Along with tilak.
One thing I’ve always liked about those is the combination of comfort and style. Wearing T shirts in the middle of Summer is like asking to be tortured. Kurtas look nice for formal wear, with the correct trousers and jacket, or just by themselves as a casual thing with a pair of jeans. The Rajasthani ones have seriously bright colours/patterns. Probably why those are my favourites. They’ve made periodic comebacks in the West, since they were “discovered” by travellers on the Hippie trail. I can see them as a fashion statement and a World-view wrapped into one. Mostly I just like the comfort, look and versatility.
I had a kurta once. wonderfully piece of clothing (I didn’t even know that was what it was called). To be more subtle the ladies loved it.
In the 80’s I was in Jaipur with Sant Thakar Sing Ji. Was that cannabis growing on the sides of the roads?
@juxtaposer Green and pink just kind of go together.
@Juxtaposer Not cannabis, it’s mustard.
nah he’d recognize mustard. He spent a few years in betty ford getting the yellow demon off his back. j.k. of course.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm…mustard!
I’m expecting Graham Chapman to show up in a Constable’s uniform any minute now.
I wonder if mustard would be a good snuff flavor?
“SUN SNUFFS have been serving snuff users in India with high quality perfumed snuff formulated with unique blend of high quality tobacco, natural perfume oils ,saffron and other ingredients, for many decades. Our each snuff is a blend of more than 20 different top quality ingredients. Our admirers include many royal families in India and many high positioned officers of The East India Company in the past.” What year was your company created? The East India Company became defunct in 1858 so it must have been founded well before that date if EIC officials used Sun Snuff. “Take example of alcohol. If someone is taking alcohol, one can add ice to it to make it feel cold while drinking , but the ultimate effect of alcohol is to give heat to body.” Alcohol does not raise body temperature - it lowers it. It causes blood vessels to become dilated. Consequently more blood reaches the surface of the body where the warmth is conducted or radiated away from the body. "For example Rose is very cold, and if a person with cold body uses Rose dominated tobacco, problems like flu, headache, cough etc. can occur. " Where is the medical evidence to support this nonsense? “So to solve this problem our ancestors have blended ingredients in our snuffs in such a way that the ultimate effect is neutral on human body and thus can be used safely by any one of any constitution.” What chemical in your snuff prevents a nicotine ‘lift’. If the ultimate effect on the human system of taking Sun Snuff is always neutral then one may presumably consume vast amounts without any noticeable effect on blood pressure or other functions affected by nicotine. Established companies have no need to advertise on groups, but why do you have to try to link your snuff to an esoteric system of alternative medicine when it sounds so utterly pretentious? The snuff is probably good enough to be marketed without obfuscation and claims of ancient patrimony. Sorry, but such advertising puts me off.
@ PhilipS whatever you feel about ayurvedic medicine and it’s veracity doesn’t change how seriously it is taken by many in India. I guess what I’am saying is that although it seems like hogwash to you I have little doubt about the sincerity of it’s producers. Many people in India and actualy all over the world really believe in the quality of ayurvedic medicine too such an extent that all products from food and beverages and herbs (tobacco included) must be balanced to their constitution according to things like the hot and cold scale. I guess what I’am saying is that there a large and very significant consumer base that needs to know if a snuff is balanced hot or cold or neutrally balanced before they’ll even consider consuming it. Pesonaly I agree that the basic premise of hot and cold is mostly phooey (b.s.) and is probably from some very good base information but is overly simplified and far from entirely accurate. Though knowing what I do about the hot and cold philosophy I can say that these snuffs should be very interesting and pleasing to the nose. To sumarize I think the snuff maker isn’t trying to pull our leg and is sincere in their conviction, certainly a large percentage of their native customer is. I personaly don’t buy intot the hot and cold thing however I think that a snuff made to be ayurvedicly nutral will probably be very enjoyable and unique. So to someone who believes or is even just knowledgable about ayurveic medicine the discription of hot and cold is very informative about the qualities of these snuffs. Just my two cents.
Just as Acupuncture is acknowledged by western Doctors as effective, although they have no idea exactly how it works, the same can be said for Ayurveda. It’s not a particularly obscure or esoteric practice. The concepts of hot and cold in Ayurvedic medicine and quite a few other traditional Asian medical doctrines have been muddled by bad translations into English, making them difficult for many to grasp. Alcohol, for instance has a tendency to dehydrate the body, as well as dilate blood vessels, which is conveniently referred to as “warming”, due in large part to the lack of a suitable English equivalent. Ayurveda shares a similar philosophy to Homeopathic medicine, to give a frame of reference. One of India’s largest exports is medical practitioners. Many of them are trained in both western and eastern treatment philosophies. This is precisely why they are in such great demand.
As long as it’s a good snuff, I don’t care if they said it will grow hair.
As far as them “advertising on groups”. I think its ok, as we tolerate the presence of other snuff manufacturers and vendors here. I think its ok when they come on here to inform us about a new product or answer questions regarding an existing one. Its not like they are writing post after post saying “Buy Sun Snuffs” that would be more like advertising and less about informing. Also while it may be true that “established” companies don’t feel the need to come here, I for one would welcome them. Plus getting established in general, or getting established in the Western market, they need to inform us somehow.
I love hearing from manufactures and vendors and what not on here. Its nice to know that some actually are knowledgeable about their product/care a little about their customers…but that’s just me. …so long as they are not trying to force-feed us product, of course. Again, I’m very eager to get some Sun Snuff!
Why does the packaging for Sun Snuff contain the standard health warning for tobacco products? If the snuff was advertised as a non-tobacco mixture then claims that taking it always has no effect on the human system has a certain credibility. But tobacco! It’s rather like an alcoholic beverage being sold with the claim that the alcohol will not be absorbed so that the ultimate effect of consumption is neutral. Ayurveda might be a popular alternative medicine in India but there can’t be many who really believe that Sun Snuff nicotine has no effect on the human system. Yet this is the argument being made by a spokesperson for the product despite all the evidence to the contrary. To claim that - “our ancestors have blended ingredients in our snuffs in such a way that the ultimate effect is neutral on human body and thus can be used safely by any one of any constitution." - is disingenuous promotion to say the least, and in circumstances beyond a chat forum would contravene advertising standards. On a minor point - according to http://www.snuffstore.de/onlineshop/index.php/cat/c187\_Sun-Snuff.html Sun Snuffs was established in 1886. The East India Company was dissolved by the Government of India Act in 1858. It is therefore impossible that “high positioned officers of The East India Company” were admirers of Sun Snuffs as claimed by their spokesperson. I daresay that Sun Snuffs are very good products and reviews have been favourable. It’s just the erroneous claims in their advertising that - if the company wishes to make inroads into the European market - need addressing
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