Who is still on the trail of the holy grail of Spanish Jewel? Roderick are you going all out now? It’s the new year! Walen, you are doing great! As for the rest of you…who still has lots of jewel from their “Group Buy” with Pedro?
I only have a tiny bit left to use for comparison. I am perfectly satisfied using the Toque Rustica as a substitute.
I only have my little bottle from Poo-Diddy which I’m keeping to compare with Roderick’s product.
I bought a large amount of Whalen’s Spanish Folly after getting a sample from him a few weeks ago. The Spanish Folly has become my favorite snuff! It has that addictive locker room tang and a sweetness followed by a big hit of Nicotine. I want to take snuff after snuff of it…hope I don’t use it up too fast. Gotta preserve some, this is even more rare then the real Spanish Jewel. Can’t wait to try and buy his new batches of snuff! Way to go!
YES!!! Whalen did a fine job with the folly. Thanks so much bud.
I have been hydrating the Folly with VG. The snuff is even better now!
Time to reopen this thread! Any updates on the Spanish Folly or did Pedro come back?
Personally Roderick, I like the Spanish Gem the way it is 
. I think it is an excellent snuff, please don’t change it! 
. But on the news of Whalen, I am excited to try some, if it were ever possible! EDIT : JUST realized how old this topic was .
Bruce, Pedro popped in to say hello a few months ago, and then didn’t say much since. Perhaps he is lurking. However, I’m quite sure the source of Spanish Jewel has dried up.
I received a PM from Pedro a while back. He told me that he lost contact with the old man who made SJ. Its even possible that the old chap has passed away already because he is/was very old. I still have about enough SJ left to satify one nostril. But, I will keep it out of respect for this unknown maker of the finest snuff ever
Spanish Folly update? I could not duplicate the Jewel! Simple as that, but I really was very conflicted in the end. I just took two big pinches of the actual “Jewel”, and although it is pretty old, I have kept it happy. Just to get my thoughts in order here. I realized two things early on, My samples of Spanish Jewel smells like toe cheese/smelly feet! (two different batches). I could never figure out how to replicate that smell, and after a while I did not want too! I am not crazy about it. But, what the Jewel really has is a strong buzzy nicotine hit, and a pronounced afterglow. That I did pursue, and that is where things got strange. I used some of the finest leaf available, Rodericks leaf, and two different Mapacho batches from South America. I spent forever separating just the leaf from the stems, and grinding it up. I made a 500 gram batch. After giving up on making smelly feet, I made a lot of progress with a lovely scent from a Fine Spanish Brandy and Local dark honey. I fermented it for 10 weeks total, and it was lovely. But- Rustica has the requisite amount of Nicotine, yet it also has a drip. It goes hand in hand. No getting around it. Getting the ph right was the crux of the problem. I concentrated on getting the Jewels Kick. This was a real trip down the rabbit hole of discovery, and I ruined quite a bit by overdoing it. I was able to enhance the hit, but the burn was not far behind, and the very act of raising the ph has a counter effect of drying the snuff out. I never could bring myself to add a humectant to stabilize it. So, I made a tasty Rustica snuff with a pronounced burn, drip, and kick. I can see it would make a great blender. I learned a hell of a lot, and made plenty of mistakes. But the story does not end here, I still have say 125 g of the Folly. I will hydrate and make some available to try. It is my next step that has me reinvigorated. I have acquired a Kilo of the leaf that Odens Extreme is made from. It is a wonderful leaf, no burn, sweet like a Virginia, no drip, and Kicks like a mule! I believe it to be a rare Rustica Viginia hybrid, a Frankensnuff leaf. They won’t tell me which actually answers most of my questions! If you have had Odens Extreme Snus, then you know the wonderful taste, and kick, if not, you should!!! It has a nicotine delivery which, while strong, is longer term, not so spiky, and the taste just wont quit. The raw tobacco smells great, but raw and undeveloped. So I am giving this one a go. I spent months developing a plan for it, actually several, and I have the fermentation batch of 250g started, this one to be aged and scented. The second batch is underway and I plan to make a toast, I think it has the taste to be a good one. I will take a break and fill you guys in from here, later.
Thank you Roderick! You do realize you have actually forgotten more about making snuff than I have ever learned! I could water board you for hours! I mean that in the most complimentary way! Nobody that makes snuff coughs up anything easy! I have spent hundreds of hours searching for snuff making knowledge. I can find several methods online for making Meth, but snuff? No sir…!
And Roderick, all we were hoping for was for you to replicate the Nicotine kick! And we are still patiently waiting BTW! Although Parrots wondered off somewhere! Your Whiskey and Honey is one of, if not the best, snuffs in the world! Do me a favor, eat right and exercise! I am wishing you a long and happy life! Cheers!
the odens extreme is very good. Trying it right now. Waiting in a box for when I got home.
@Whalen I am a big fan of yours! If you have anything you have made you would sell some of, I am always a ready buyer!! Now, who has some real Jewel for me to try??
@bigbuyer - Give me some time I have quite a bit more Folly! I am working on the Extreme snuff, it is very spicy and powerful stuff. I am trying to PH balance it as little as possible because it kicks like a mule. Flavoring is up in the air, I was just thinking a toast at this time. I am still trying to evaluate it. I will send out samples for you all to try, I am making a 250 gram batch. It has been toasted once and is developing a flavor. It has a burn from the high nicotine, but it is a fantastic blender! And if someone wants to do a final grind by hand I would be up for sending some small samples now for feedback, I would want to keep to the USA right now to limit postage. PM me and be patient please, I just started my first job in three years after my heart surgery, and I am working 12 hour days, and I am kinda pooped, but if I just had to stick a stamp and postage on an envelope, no problem. The snuff is a course grind right now and I have not finalized the grind yet, but a few minutes of your time with a pestle and its yours to try.
Sounds great! I just received today a bag of Thuoc Lau from Roderick. I wonder what that will make…
Thuoc Lao is great with just a grinding!
I will have to grind it, this weekend.
Bruce LOL! If you’re anything like me- GGTS in one hand, and Snuff box in the other! Nic much? 
As long as I’m not smoking, I’m happy and so is my body.