Came to my mind that pine, blueberry etc. smell different in different parts of world, because of climate, soil, weather and so on. Usually closer to the poles means more intense scent/flavour.
well people just might want to think about the fact that a description of how this or that snuff smells like “a hint of a Mongolian Widgitry Tree bearing Widget Fruit” doesn’t mean a damned thing to somebody who’s never smelled a “mongolian Widgetry tree” – this isn’t College English 101 or a term paper for a Literary Major, nobody’s grading your writing skills here, we’re reading just trying to learn and detect and glean from all that … esoteric verbosity then if that’s what we have to weed through just to see what snuffs *we* might like. I bet I could come up with a few things most people here haven’t smelled… “This snuff is highly reminiscent of a Dynawrite with slight undertone hints of a fresh Dynavox V Max” (That’d certainly clear things up!) Sometimes I just want to know some basic things: is it menthol or not, does it have a strong smell or not and if it does, what is that smell and just how strong is it, its amazing how hard it is to even tell much of the time by some of this if somethings even a plain tobacco or not (I have started to look for certain reviewers and follow them around to see what they’ve tested and where they are going next and hoping they’ve tested stuff I might like, just because I’ve found somebody that makes at least a little sense when they go at it) @Allanh, are you trying to tell us you’ve gone out of your way to sniff pine wood at various latitudes all over the planet – AND that you can pick these out… of snuff (which doesn’t even actually have wood in it)?? Next somebody’s going to be telling us how a snuff smells exactly like the Dead Sea Scrolls… but only those found buried X number of layers down and those picked up by Mr N archeologist as opposed to Mr X archeologist…
@Nomad, thanks. I only just started (had to take a break, nose overload, was a good time to come back here (and buy some time letting off a rebuttal ranting here) while I wait for it clear up before I can start in reviewing again. My reviews really are going to be very subject to change especially on some things (for example I have a feeling that sooner or later I’m going to have to be able to smell something in maccoboy)
I was going to say something here. I changed my mind.
Taken from 2 above.“its amazing how hard it is to even tell much of the time by some of this if somethings even a plain tobacco or not (I have started to look for certain reviewers and follow them around to see what they’ve tested and where they are going next and hoping they’ve tested stuff I might like, just because I’ve found somebody that makes at least a little sense when they go at it)” Write more reviews then. The more the merrier. As far as the dead sea scrolls. That would probably be Rooster. They liked BarBQ a lot back then.
Dead Sea Scrolls snuff I think would be SG Irish D light. To me it has the most wonderful smell of old books. Or maybe just old bookshops.
About a week ago I finished reading “The Billionaire’s Vinegar”. Touching upon fraud in the wine world it relates to this post in various ways. Of course people can get a little carried away in waxing poetic; I can only say that so far I haven’t yet read a snuff review that I thought pretentious. I mean really, who in the larger world gives a fig about snuff? If one doesn’t attempt to relate the experience of snuffing to other common tastes, wouldn’t the reviews just be: this is a nice snuff. And this is another nice snuff…? Which isn’t too far off my grasp of most tobacco, I’m afraid! I’m very grateful to have this forum and snuffreviews to read the postings from good-natured and, in many cases, very knowledgeable amateurs. Another point the author brought out is that the talk of various scents and tastes is no mere eyewash; the aromatic compounds found in coffee, citrus, et al, can be found in wine, indeed other consumables. Not all compounds in all the things we taste, of course, but they are there. So while Mr.Tosches sounds hip and biting, and may be quite right in many cases, an open mind might have served him better. While many very highly placed authorities of the wine world were taken in by a wine forger (!), there were a few who sampled and knew immediately: “something is not right here!” Interesting post.
@whistlrr Yes, actually I have smelled same things around the world and there are differences. Pine scent is prevalent in some of Molinse de Kralingse snuffs. What is was after is that theoretically same scents have slightly different meanings to people according their backgrounds.
Oh, and I wanted to add that St. Clements still smells like nothing other than wet dog to me.
@AllanH somehow I sorta saw that response coming… I’m not even going to ask what job it is that takes you all over the world sniffing pine wood at various latitude and longitudes (I’ll just figure you for some sort of well-to-do exotic logger type guy, mmkay?) @kyrios lol at least when you say that I know what you’re talking about (and SOME wet dogs, and if they’re not TOO awfully wet and not in too dire need of a bath first, aren’t all that bad – maybe you should do a review that go into a big discourse on exactly what breed of dog, were he was and just what made him wet, eg., “brown 8 year old and quite pissed off chihuahua who was just tossed in somebody’s pool”)
@Roderick: I’ve purchased close to 14 varieties of Toque from you including the St. Clements. Most recently about 50g worth of Berwick Brown and others (I LUV Berwick Brown). I have owned several dogs in my day so I am familiar with bathing and washing them. Every time I take a sniff of the Toque products I am amazed at how subtle, satisfying and refreshing (kick ass) they are but not once have I detected anything that reminded me of a “Wet Dog” or any other pet that I’ve owned. Just my $.02
clarification: I wasn’t trying to say that *I* smelled wet dog in the aforementioned snuff, I just found it funny to play with the just the ‘wet dog’ and I really don’t mind some certain and milder wet dog smells) just the concept and how it could be worked into one of these reviews was funny to me. and continuing with the topic: some birds when wet (such as parakeets) and some hamsters etc can be actually kind of good smelling, some of the bathing and area cleaning supplies that go with these animals can be very good smelling (Roderick, are you up for some “Hamster Cage Cleaning fluid” scented snuff?)
Wish I had a dog smelling like St Clements! I would let it sleep with me every night.
I had “wet dogs” in two snuffs in my collection (Toque St Clements and Toast & Marmalade), so I had them re-homed. Aromas in anything can only be compared to the real life experiences of the reviewer. Too much detail in a review may indicate a lack of, or too much knowledge. Keep it simple and say what the smell reminds YOU of. Don’t copy what someone else writes, or what you think it should smell like.
incidentally I actually HAVE smelled (sorta, he really was pissed and wasn’t about to let anybody else too close heh) a wet chihuahua who was in fact tossed in a swimming pool (it wasn’t me who did it, it was my uncle, his dog and pool – the dog was insanely faithful to my uncle anyway, the dog sat shivering right on my uncles lap, barking mad and all bulgy-eyed at the REST of the world while my uncle, who had a wicked sense of humor, chuckled and dried his little dog off)
@whistlrr: By all means we are on the same page, my comment was not directed at you or anyone in particular, I was just commenting on my personal experience with the Toque products I’ve purchased and used. I should interject more humor sometimes I think so as not to appear to serious. I expect the snuff experience is personal for every individual.
@NOmad no worries (I’m having a chuckle if I’m really honest about it just recalling that little bulgy-eyed dog just barking away at the world… those little dogs have such big eyes anyway, and any of them I have ever met seem to have no idea they’re so little, and get one really shook, which is very easy to do with those little dogs, especially if one belongs to a real wise-ass like my uncle lol, and its really something to see – can’t say I’ve ever smelled anything like that in a snuff can, just this discussion brought it to mind) or maybe they meant THIS Dog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHXb5XPfR9Q
@Roderick: No offense intended. It’s just that wet dog is a scent I absolutely detest for some reason or other. And this is from someone who likes the smell of funky cheeses and chitterlings (don’t ask). That said, your reputation for producing delightful snuff is well-earned. I have a few of them. Original has become my daily “go-to.” Wonderful stuff! @Whistlrr: “maybe you should do a review that go into a big discourse on exactly what breed of dog, were he was and just what made him wet, eg., “brown 8 year old and quite pissed off chihuahua who was just tossed in somebody’s pool”) :P” — Almost literally ROFLMAO! Priceless! Side note: I said earlier that Spanish Gem smelled like vanilla pudding to me. It seems that a few days of off and on exposure to the air has mellowed that somewhat. I’m still trying, and beginning to like, it. The “vanilla” I perceive has mellowed and is not as cloyingly sweet as before. I know that many have said they perceive “honey” but it’s coming off as vanilla-like to me. But I’m starting to perceive other things as well. …like this wonderful, smooth, “round” tobacco and something undefineable as yet. . almost “grassy” or hay-like. There are other things as well, but this is striking me as elusive. . .I almost think I’m about to identify something—then it’s gone. Very interesting! This may grow on me big time yet!
That Spanish Gem… that’s a real chameleon snuff if you asked me. At first I dind’t like it, was just another overgrown SP to me (and I have figured out I really don’t like SPs all that well), but now every time I try it its a different snuff (and now I actually tend to like it, most times anyway, it chances what it is to me so much this can change too) and it doesn’t smell like an SP to me at all most times lately. I can smell chocolate in there sometimes, other times I smell marshmallows, I’m not even sure right now what all I have smelled in there. I should maybe keep a Spanish Gem Smell Log or something because I just know that’s a weird one (in a good way) that its like the Mystery EveryChanging What’ll-It-Be-Today Chameleon Snuff.
Should’ve opened this thread sooner. lmao. Word, word, and word… but uh, I do watch Frasier once in a while and like it. Try this one on. “off the coast of Paros, a delectable sweetness of a citrus entices one’s scent pleasures to take the plunge into the leather and wood as old as pews. And even as it invites a few odd stares, just ffwwp!-ffwwp! two pinches more.”