Short on facts; Long on Hype

Here’s an article to make your blood boil. Came out today.Shoddy ReportingMy favorite line: “The threshold of lung cancer from smoking is several years — however, if snuff is, indeed, attracting a younger audience, then elementary school students inhaling the component now could be diagnosed with cancer in their early 20s or 30s, he said.” An I also like: “These inhalants could lead to other cancers, most notably of the nose and lungs and even bladder, he said.” Naturally zero evidence is cited. Unreal.

Typical “breaking” news BS

_Apart from flavors, dry snuff also comes in a range of textures and moisture levels, from very fine to coarse, and from toast (very dry) to very moist. Often drier snuffs are ground finer. The aromas/flavors are appealing, ranging from fruity favorites like raspberry, cherry and blueberry to drinks like brandy maple, whiskey and honey, bourbon, cola champagne and wine and cheese to the unusual like violet and sandalwood. The snuff comes in unique and easy to conceal tins and containers, such as glass and plastic vials and wooden boxes. The product reportedly provides an energy boost as some contain guarana, an herb, and glucose, as well as mints like spearmint and peppermint._Looks like they have been doing some looking around. Perhaps we should all contact the hack reporter that reported this crap and let them know how we feel?

Avantgarde aromas and names??? LOL! Giving the term nonsense a new meaning. Should have checked what avantgarde really is, besides a cool, but unfitting term. “There is danger for long-term use,” said Newmark. “If you become hooked, it can be difficult to stop.” Hmmm, ok, that´s a fair point. But I´d say the same thing about my coffee consumption. She´s saving that for another high class report, I´d bet. “Nicotine is a poison,” said Newmark. But it´s the dosage that makes the poison. If I have the choice between using snuff and drinking a nice glass of wine once in a while on the one side and dancing with the reporter, Mr. Newmark and their fellow elves around the trees… not a tough decision.

is this a verbatim, un-cited quote? “The most popular use of snuff is to take just a pinch between your thumb and forefinger and sniff it lightly into the nose. This provides a pleasant aroma, lasting 15 to 20 minutes, as well as a noticeable nicotine lift.” That seems so familiar to me, like I’ve read that on a snuff website or around here, or something…

I just sent her a nice little email. If she responds, I’ll post it here.

suck my balls bitch. sorry, i just had to say that. Especially that anything tasty is appealing for children. Duh.

Absurd. I had a feeling word would come around, especially with the “if it has any flavor in it, it is clearly marketed to our youth” BS. Bah. We can expect to see more articles like this in the future.

I would wonder if she’s reading this forum, maybe she even has an account.

Here is the email I sent. Sorry Mr. Snuff, I stole the thread topic!Mrs. Kaikowski, I am writing you to correct some misinformation from your most recent article. While you may think that “flavors” of nasal snuff are targeted to a young audience, this is not the case. A snuff company in England constantly ask it’s consumers what types of snuff they would like to see. So when a Blueberry snuff hits the market, it is because the consumer base requested it, not because the snuff company is some drug pusher as you portrayed them to be. Your article seems to be nothing more than another anti-tobacco push hidden under the cover of “save the children”. If you would dig a bit deeper, you would find that there has been extensive research done on the use of nasal snuff and health. In fact the British government reduced the warning labels on snuff products after research concluded that snuff poses little to no risk to the user. You would also find that there has been no cases of nasal cancers, none. “Whereas the old snuff, popular in the 1970s and 1980s in round paper containers or bags under the name Copenhagen or Skoal, was chewed and spit out, today’s snuff comes in fancy containers with equally avant-garde aromas and names. And unlike its predecessor, this snuff isn’t pinched into one’s gums or chewed, it’s inhaled through the nostrils.” Also, just so there is no confusion, nasal snuff has been around since Christopher Columbus returned from the new world. This other “snuff” that you speak of is named snuff only because it is a cut tobacco product. Nasal snuff and Dipping snuff have no relation. Your article seems to be long on hype but short on facts, and that is being generous. The job of the media is to inform, not misinform or incite sensationalism. Regards, Chris

Brilliant letter. On the other hand, Roderick can now no longer blame those darn kids for coming up with the Cheese & Bacon flavour…

Well done, my friend!!

I doubt she will respond. She’s just a sheep.

Well, I decided to go on a diatribe here. I hope I’ve made her cry, and fear that one day her children might live near such an evil person as myself. Here’s my letter to her: Mrs. Kaikowski, I find your article to be quite silly, if I’m to be totally blunt. For one, there’s your claim that it’s being actively marketed towards tweens, teens, and college students. Perhaps with oral snuff, that might be the case, but I’ve yet to see a single add for nasal snuff anywhere other than on websites dedicated to them. It’s also not the easy to conceal habit you claim it to be. The majority of products that come in easily hidden tins have to be taken out and agitated (which produces quite the noise) in order to avoid spilling a great deal when you open it. Also, just because something has a flavour does not mean it’s marketed at kids. If this were the case, the government would do well to ban spiced rum and vanilla vodka. The reason snuff comes in a variety of scents is because the snuff manufacturers maintain contact with their clients, and we have in fact requested certain flavours be made. Also, many of the flavours are traditional blends that have been around since the 1800s in one form or another. It’s also not terribly easy conceal. Tell me if you were a teacher you would fail to notice that one particular student took out a circular, metal tin in class everyday, held his finger to his nose, sneezed, and had to blow his nose. And when he does blow it, you can see through the tissue that snuff has turned his mucous brown to black. I will concede that their could be more done to verify age online, but to that I must add something. Do you know why snuff is sold online for the most part? It’s because it accounts for less than 1% of all tobacco sales. There’s no reason for retail outfits to stock snuff, as it simply isn’t profitable for them. It’s time for people to quit playing the “save the children” card, and for parents to take up some personal responsibility. Talk with your children, make sure they know what’s okay to do online and what isn’t, and when they do something you told them not to, punish them in a meaningful way. As for it being marketed towards kids as safer then cigarettes, I say bugger the children. If the little monsters can’t comprehend that something with “This tobacco product can damage your health and is addictive.” across a third of the package, I hope natural selections sorts them out. When adults can no longer make reasonable, informed decisions about what they chose to use in their free time, so long as it’s legal, lest the idiotic sprogs the American people are raising today injure themselves, the human race is condemned to servile stupidity, and hopefully a fast end. Sincerely, Morgan By the way, took out my last name, with this being the interwebs and all.

Great letter!

I really think we should give credit to the author she got one thing right, she included Newmark’s (I know he is a doctor but labeling him one would certainly do damage to this profession) wonderful incite about the nature of nicotine, its a POISON. Of Course it is…if you are an INSECT. @miamimark That’s what I was thinking too. Anybody ever see thank you for smoking this chick really reminds me of “Heather Holloway” from that movie. The other amazing thing about this article is that I was under the impression that there were editors in newspapers (i am assuming this is an online version of a newspaper or at least something similar) what editor let this nonsense about all these cancers, seems I cannot find a single case other than some idiot who put the stuff in his ears. So I would love to have a word with her sources. I am really bloody infuriated by this article the information is guesses from anti-tobacco fiends and information about dip, calling a witch-hunt out tobacco, rather than protecting today’s youth. I really wonder if the author believes what she is writing if so I think we might be dealing with the MOST naive person on earth.

Other funny thing is I just thought of, If this is infact marketed to youg teens, I believe that maby 3-4 of us are in our teens I am 19 and I dont really think Maccoboy, Standard, A/P, and Princes Special are all that teen candy coloured wonderful. Just a thought The most flavored snuff I think I have is Gin And Tonic and that doesnt really sound like strawberry cigarettes to me.

Just another anti-tobacco nazi! I need to snort my snuff tin to calm down. Aimed to the younger audience? Now this is a total bullshit. There is legal age for tobacco products. Just stop selling it to youger people. Whats their problem with tastes? Even they ban them, everyone of us can flavour his/her snuff. I just want to point out that cocaine, amfetamines and maybe more drugs, sniffed mainly by young people have no tastes. Just nasty chemical taste. But teenagers keep doing it. So it is obvious that the Taste is not their problem.

That is the biggest load of crap I have read in a long time. She obviously didn’t use evidence or facts to back up her ridiculous claims, but why let the truth get in the way of a good story. I’m really bloody angry now. I’m having a pinch of camphor and mild to calm down. Hopefully I won’t get bladder(!) cancer. Stupid bloody hack! Stefan

It seems this kind of bs is spinning through german languaged newspapers, too, for quite some time, what I´ve seen now. Sometimes snus is thrown in as well, sometimes not. I think the increasing financial pressure on newspapers plays a big part. They´re losing alot of readers and that way the ad prices crashed. Many newspapers fail to keep up the high standard of journalism of past times. Checking facts takes quite some time and it costs. That´s of course no excuse for that crappy article. If she´d learned her job propperly, she at least should know the meaning of avantgarde, before throwing it in to seem clever. I think, reading her bs caused more damage to my health, than taking snuff could ever do. :wink: