Hey guys, i just wanted to share this with you. I found a guys site about addiction to snuff. And he’s talking about oral cancer after quitting snuff, diseases and stuff that i’ve never heard of that happens in snuff usage. But i’ve come to a conclusion that this guy doesn’t know what snuff is, he’s talking about “DIPPING” something. Snuff is snuffed, not dipped, maybe he doesn’t know what snuff is and how it’s different from snus. I don’t know. What’s your opinion? http://www.addictedtosnuff.com/ (btw i’ve only read the first blogs, not all of it)
From the way it sounds he is talking about moist snuff, which is taken oraly.
Dip, is also referred to as moist snuff, and there are people who actually do dip dry scotch snuffs. In the states it is a Southeastern thing. Ken
By the way, WTF. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rZ9wAhEuf4
Reminds me of the last time I went to a doctor. He told me that oral cancer wasn’t really the big concern with oral snuff use. He basicly said they aren’t even sure if really has that much of an effect on oral cancer (it seems it’s one of the less understood cancers) but that what I should worry about with dipping is pancreatic cancer which according to him was the most common form of cancer to get from dipping. One of the things that people don’t understand is that a number of people get mouth cancer from lots of diffrent things including infections most commonly aquired from preforming oral sex. Oh I think that dude in the video lives in my town. Either that or his doppelganger.
The phoneme in snuff is the same as in snort, snore, sniff, sneeze etc, which suggests that snuff is taken via the nose and not the mouth. If the substance is taken orally then it is either not snuff or is snuff but is taken the wrong way. Either the product or the user is at fault. That, for what it is worth, is my opinion.
In my little corner of the world, if you use the word ‘snuff’ anybody would think you’re referring to Copenhagen or the like. I doubt if you could find two people besides me who have ever heard of nasal snuff.
Yup, in Alberta, Canada (where I was born and raised, but don’t live anymore) many people call chewing tobacco “snuff” as well. Of course, it is also called “chew” which at least makes sense. For some reason, chewing tobacco has become quite popular in Alberta the last few years. I think the “snuff” misnomer comes from the fact that some of the American chewing tobacco manufacturers label their tins as “snuff.” In the store, both Copenhagen and Skoal have “snuff” on the tin. And most people under 40 I have spoken with have never even heard or imagined that you could or would sniff tobacco, as opposed to burning it or chewing on it. Several smokers have responded to my saying I was trying to quit smoking using nasal snuff with “but isn’t it dangerous to sniff tobacco into your nose?” Yeah, lighting it on fire and inhaling it is really safe, but some plant dust in your nose is “dangerous.” Sigh. As for oral cancer from chewing tobacco, the risk is really very low, based on the data gathered by Brad Radu. It is lower than the risk of oral cancer from smoking…although I just don’t like the chewing and spitting aspects of “chew/chaw”.
In common parlance, I’ve never heard anyone refer to Copenhagen, Skoal, etc as “snuff” even though it calls itself as such on the label. Everyone I ever talked to usually refers to it as “dip” (although that’s not truly an accurate name either). I’ve only seen it reffered to as snuff in news articles or medical reports. We need to start a campaign to take back the name “snuff”.
People here call cope snuff. And often times think that is what I’am talking about when I say snuff. I still consider it snuff to be honest. Just not the good kinda of snuff.
@bob: “what I should worry about with dipping is pancreatic cancer which according to him was the most common form of cancer to get from dipping” That would chime with the Swedish government’s research into snus usage, which showed an increase in the likelihood of pancreatic cancer but no evidence of an increased risk of oral cancers.
My understanding is the term “snuff” refers more to the cutting, like a generic term of finely chopped tobacco, regardless if one sniffs or dips it.
The evolution is such, in the american south east people took to dipping nasal snuff, it was typically women who did this. Seeing this the tobacco companies began to make what they called moist snuff, which was more suited to “dipping”. Basically a compromise between chewing tobacco and dry snuff. However the snuff name has stayed a bit, although most I know refer to it as dip, but I am originally from NJ not the southeast where I live now. As for Phoneme Phenomenon… well I put it like this, in the words of Steven Wright, “Why do we drive on the parkway and park on the driveway?” Ken