Ot ..hi all hope ur all well & e cigs

E-cigs are as valid a way to quit smoking as snus or snuff. Many people who have failed to give up via the patch and gum method have succeeded with e-cigs. I like to use mine when I need a change from snus. I have emphysema and find that it doesn’t affect my breathing. Sure, they can be fiddly but the technology is new and still developing. As for the e-liquid, well that’s a case of being sensible and adult enough to store it properly so it can’t harm anyone. E-cigs are safer than regular smokes as you’re not getting any of the crap that you’d usually find in tobacco smoke and there is no chance of harming anyone through second hand smoke. It’s all good.

The thing that kills me with e-cigs is that is quite expensive for something you have no idea how much you’ll use or enjoy. Still cheaper then the patch.

The key is bulk buying and maintenance. Buying multi packs of carts, batteries and atomisers make it cheaper. Proper maintenance will extend the useful life of the components. Buying liquid in larger quantities will also make it cheaper.

Dave I find your numbers 100% off based and the same scare tactics that have been pushed at us for years. I know for a fact when unless I am a freaking zombie, I mistook my saline spray and grabbed my 36mg nic juice and blasted my nose with it. BURNT like a bitch on fire but hey so does rooster. I think we have got to this point because of the just because you can pump them out does not mean you are a good parent. Live and let live and those who do stupid crap and die well they deserved the Darwin award.

That being said, 36mg strength e-juice is usually used for diluting down. Some do vape it but it’s unadvisable. After a bit of experimentation I found that 11mg e-juice suits my purposes. It’s all down to personal tastes at the end of the day. If you’re vaping that kind of strength e-juice then no wonder your chest hurts.

I have vaped straight maoi loaded 48 and 36 no issues. No chest pains.

Well, you must have the constitution of an ox. That type of strength isn’t generally recommended.

Mate I smoked up to 3 packs a day of luckys or cheterfields at one point. So ox like abilities aside I toot rooster and eat the bee, snus the all father es kanel los, and smoke a RYO filterless. I drink my coffee black with 2 added shots, a double dram of Isley scotch, my gin and tonics no ice.

Interesting to see different views !!! Can I just ask why bleech and meds have child proof tops ?? They are their not because they think we are stupid or let our kids play with them their on their just in case as accidents do happen ! And as for my numbers they are not as off as u think but again it’s interesting to read everyones thoughts .!!! Ah this Darwin award what is it ??

The LD50 of nicotine is 50 mg/kg for rats and 3 mg/kg for mice. 0.5-1.0 mg/kg can be a lethal dosage for adult humans.[2][3] Nicotine therefore has a high toxicity in comparison to many other alkaloids such as cocaine, which in mice has an LD50 of 95.1 mg/kg. It is impossible however to overdose on nicotine through smoking alone (though a person can overdose on nicotine through a combination of nicotine patches, nicotine gum, and/or tobacco smoking at the same time.) [4] [5] Spilling an extremely high concentration of nicotine onto the skin can result in intoxication or even death since nicotine readily passes into the bloodstream from dermal contact.[6] ↑ Jump Back A Section

E-juice comes with child proof tops. CHIP compliant ones.

Yep some do But the point I was making was that none of the products are tested and are china certified not uk or USA certified as far as I have learned china will print what u want them to print …say u call them up hold a meeting to make nicotine carts say 500 then u say I want them at a low 6 dose then u ask the question about cosh or u explain it needs to be pure nicotine certified and tested I gustentee a it won’t be tested and b it will prob contain other stuff and was prob made in someones bedroom but they will still give u documents to say it’s all been made under strict conditions and tested …are the USA not banning food import from china for the same thing ?? Intellicig are the only maker of ecigs that make their own nicotine in a lab on machester uni and their batterys an atomisors still come from china so i bet Intellicig will prob last the longest but in my own opinion it’s a make ur money quick and run business befor it’s to late ! Others will disagree with me here but everyone has a right to their own opinion right or wrong

Dave this juice is not sweet tasting and kids will get into almost anything. I know I had some wild rides growing up. I understand where you are coming from but do not understand the alarmist anti stance. Yes Intellicig produces amazing juices. yes our beloved vitiman n is toxic,but honestly so are a bunch of other things we use. I could see a child oding on a tin of nummy scented snuff that smells oh like peppermint vs. drinking a bottle. No if a kidlet drank a 1ml bottle of 50mg nic juice the death would be in less than an hour…hell if an adult could choke down 50mg nice juice the death would be in minutes a most vile horrible farty and painful death.

Hey buddy i don’t have an anti stance or alarmist stance just discussing it and interested in everyones views realy I myself won’t use them and was just interested on everyones thoughts on them don’t get me wrong if they help people quit great I’m. Just worried about the safty of them buddy , I Also see ur point !

Thing is, and I don’t know if it’s just my paranoia but you have the PACT debacle in the US, an attack on e-cigs in the UK following an outright ban on smoking in pubs etc. Lord knows how many other countries, states and territories doing similar things. What’s going on? Is there a bigger picture here? Is there a concerted effort to wipe out recreational nicotine use?

Most probably!

rmidnightmosesuk hmmmm you may have something their … its interesting or is that what they want us to think ? will it increase sales if a panic starts ?? thats a sure fire way for the goverment to make a quick buck on tax …

Okay… so my next question would be, co-ordinated by whom and for what reason? Corporations? Secret world government? GAOTU? Aliens!!!

Conspiracy theorys about this kinda thing would be interesting to work out , who , why , what , how … all thoughts on this would make an interesting read for all !!!

i still wonder about this … Obama is a citizen of Indonesia, or that because he had dual citizenship at birth (British and American), he is not a natural born citizen of the United States, which is a requirement to be President of the United States under Article Two of the United States Constitution. so if this is the case he can sign what he wants it will be worth nothing lol which is the right one ?