Hi All hope ur all well , I have had a bad end and start to this year . Family passing away we also had to move living in swindon Wiltshire now so I can look after my dad , I’m setteled in my new house now and I’m trying to catch up on threads here lol ,oh to the guy who sent me the Spanish jewel can u inbox me so I can get ur snuff delived it has not left my snuf box draw lol it came to my address not urs but still sealed as new 
waitin for u and Roderick I hope ur well and to everyone else here good to see u all still snuffing away ! It’s good to be back here I tried the electronic cigs for a day or so my feeling is they will slowly be banned due to their being no controll or knowlage as to how much nicotine u are taking in per drag ? Also it’s to easy to get the liquid in ur mouth which made me dizzy and puke od I think but still I can see how they work just to many things can go wrong with them in my opinion ! What do u think about them ?
I’ve never used one, but from what I’ve read the attys burn out pretty regularly. That would make them a pain to me. There are too many more natural and convenient nicotine delivery systems like snuff, cigars, pipes and snus.(all of which I use)
Nice to see you back and I hope things continue to improve for you and the family. Thankfully its just snuff for me these days so not tried an e-cig, I don’t think I will either after what you say!
Hullo dave I’ve been using e-cigs for right at a year now. They are indeed fiddly things at best but I persevered at the outset and learned how to get the best performance I could from them. I still use one on a daily basis for fun. Now, if I had been introduced to either snuff or snus first, I probably would not have bothered with the e-cig. As it is, the e-cig put me on the road to going smokeless, bumpy for sure but on the road. Snus paved that road and snuff has added the perfect scenery!
Yes I think that all the ecig companys in my opinion have a limited time to make their money due to bans the FDA are on their case and I can’t see them passing any tests ! For non users ecigs contain a battery an atomisor and nicotine cart … The carts come in many strenths up to 36mg wow eh ! Now the the first problem with them is safty I mean 36mg Juce in a kids hands equLs death within 1hour an adult would need about 1 cart also to kill and death in an adult would happen within 4hours …many forums have posts from people worried about od on nicotine posts about breathing problems or reactions to vg or pg veg glycorine . I my reason for trying them was just curious u guess which has made me wonder if anyone here has used them and their thoughts on them … Is the uk nxt to ban them ? Maryland USA is banning them now …
I’ve definatly wondered about the saftey of them for sure. From what I understand is that Hookas also vaporize the nicotine. I’ve read studies on hooka vaping that indicate that the rates of ephaysma and other lung ailments are much lower in long time hooka smokers. However lung cancer and heart and ciculartory diseases seems higher. Like as if nicotine should not be aborbed through the longs.
Ive given up using the hookah. The thing that concerned me was that you literally breathe it in for all your worth. Now its exclusively snuff for me and the odd smoke is getting to be months apart, and then its down to some stupid trigger rather than actually wanting one, I just feel so much better without any smoke thanks to good ol snuff.
I’ll hit a hooka every once in a while. I have a few friends that own hookas (none of them smoke it often, usaly only when drinking a little bit too).
Snuffster, just to be clear, one does not have to take huge deep inhales from a hookah to get the effect of the nicotine. I have smoked from a hookah for a few years now (a couple times per week). You can get a good nicotine buzz from even short inhales.
E-cigs are under threat in the UK. The liquid may well be banned though the actual e-cigs won’t be. Something about trained chemists being the only people who should be allowed to handle the liquid nicotine. I think there maybe more going on with this ban than meets the eye. The smoking cessation industry is huge and e-cigarettes are gaining in popularity. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some big pharmaceutical companies moving behind the scenes to protect their interests. There are a few British on-line e-liquid suppliers and manufacturers in the UK which will be forced to close after June if things go wrong and many reformed smokers will be forced back to analogue cigarettes.
which seems far worse.
@davec32_"The carts come in many strenths up to 36mg wow eh ! Now the the first problem with them is safty I mean 36mg Juce in a kids hands equLs death within 1hour an adult would need about 1 cart also to kill and death in an adult would happen within 4hours "_Now that is some kind of a scary statement no doubt! Would you be able to provide a citation for those numbers? Thank you
I use a e-cig and have been for about 6 months now. I gave up on the small ones that look like a smoke and got myself a mod. It is pretty darn reliable, but for me snuff is what is really helping me quit smoking. I find myself using the e-cig less often, mostly when I am sitting home relaxing, but the snuff, I use that all day and have not had cravings for cigarettes since I started using snuff. As for the argument that liquid will kill the children, I can only say that there are a lot of things in the world that can kill children. Most prescription drugs, many over the counter drugs, things we clean our homes with, things we put into our car engines, sheesh children even fall into mop buckets and die, wading pools, bathtubs, they fall off swing sets, they run into the street and get hit by cars…if we ban or try and put strick control on everything to save the children we will all be walking around wrapped in bubble wrap. I raised two children in a home full of firearms, cigarettes, cigars, household cleaners, bug killer, rat poison and over the counter drugs and both survived. I just taught them what they could and could not touch and locked things away so they could not get at them. Pretty simple, would be nice if the world would just do this with their children and stop banning everything.
Sure buddy il copy and paste some info proof on my figures above they are correct I know that much …I’m on my iPhone so can’t do it just yet look at toxic poison levels of nicotine (google it ) that’s a good place to see what I’m saying is right or just google how much nicotine will kill a child /adult in what tine but I think u will find my statment is bang on …,ok I see ur point re bringing up children in s house full of guns but ur ment to keep them locked away by law !! At the moment their is no law on ecigs or the liquid which makes them dangerous and unknown …Philip moris has been designing ecigs for some time now …question is why has Philip Morris not released them yet ??? It’s a good argument re tobacco and chemist not wanting ecigs due to loss of money and I’m sure the FDA are in someways payed of or swayed one way or another but the question still remains about their safty if a kid gets hold of cigs it’s not going to kill them same with snuff but ecigs it can …,again I know bleech is dangerous to kids but u don’t hold 25 mini bottled if it in the house ,car bedrooms do u plus bleech will taste yuk but vg is v v v sweet tasting kids would love it !!!
I have to agree, my daughter doesn’t even know where I keep my e-juice and even if she did, she would know not to touch daddie’s stuff. You have to be responsible at the end of the day. We live in a world that seems to want to take any sense of personal resposibility away from us, basically saying that we are too stupid or inept to look after ourselves.
… as most cigarette smokers know only too well. A smoker becomes accustomed to having a certain level of nicotine, the most addictive substance in tobacco products, present in their system. However, it is good to know that as irresistible as it may be, nicotine, unlike some of the 4000+ ingredients like tar and carbon monoxide present in tobacco cigarettes, is not known to be carcinogenic. This is why more and more people are turning to e-cigs as an alternative to cigarette smoking and a pleasurable way to enjoy their nicotine without all the harmful chemicals in tobacco. If you feel you have Nicotine Dependence Disease and would like some help and advice, please contact your GP or NHS Smokefree. In the meantime, please remember that… Nicotine is a toxic substance which, when taken in sufficient amounts, can be fatal. Nicotine in any form should not be used by children, people with high blood pressure, anyone with a heart condition or pregnant women. Just a small amount of nicotine could be enough to kill a child or family pet. For this reason, nicotine patches, gums , e liquid or any product that contains nicotine must never be left within their reach and should ideally be kept in a lockable box. Nicotine tolerance varies greatly from person to person, but a lethal dose of nicotine for adults is estimated to be between 30 and 60mg. For a child, a lethal dose is considered to be just 10mg of nicotine! E liquid, the ‘fuel’ for e-cigs, is available in small bottles with nicotine concentrations of 0mg (nicotine free), 11mg, 18mg, 24mg and 36mg or 1.1%, 1.8%, 2.4% and 3.6% respectively. Nicotine concentration may vary slightly depending on the manufacturer, e.g., available in 16mg rather than 18mg bottles. Cartridges pre-filled with liquid are usually available with nicotine content labelled zero (0%), low (1.1%), medium (1.4%) and high (1.8%). Nicotine content in e liquid is usually measured in mgs per ml. For example, 18mg e liquid would contain 18mg of nicotine per 1 ml of liquid. The exception to this is e liquid produced by manufacturer Johnson Creek which is measured in mg per 1.2ml. One average tobacco cigarette contains approximately 1.5mg of nicotine. Feel free to take a ‘wander’ around the e-cigs.co.uk store if you’d like to see our own range of e-cigs and e liquid with or without nicotine.
Toxicity is not an absolute. A substance may be beneficial, even essential, in low doses but fatal in high doses. Nicotine is one such. For the pedants: Nicotine is LD50 which means that 5% solution will kill half the people stupid enough to put it on their skin. Ref: 3 below Nicotine on the skin can kill True Current guidelines show that nicotine concentrations of 4% to 6% absorbed through the skin can be fatal and therefore toxic. Most commercial supplies of nicotine for human consumption are sold at no more than 3.6%. This compares with a strong cigarette having 2.4% and a low nicotine 0.1mg cigarette at 0.65%. Some suppliers of ecigs are selling a 5.4% and supplies in China can reach 8%. Il post proper sums for the 1hour and 4 for adults tomorrow the above are just copy and pastes
Basicaly a child drinks just 1 single small cart of eluquid has about 1 hour to live !!!
Good job Dave, glad to see you here again! I will be sticking with my snuff thank you very much, Those E cigs sound like a royal pain in the arse anyway. Snuff is simple in comparison. I tried a disposable e cig, darn thing made my chest hurt. I would rather Toque than smoke.
The law has nothing whatsoever to do with how I store my guns. I lock them away from children because I am not stupid…I do not require a law to have common sense. Common sense also tells me to store my nicotine juices in a safe place so that my dogs cannot get to them (children are all grown up). Perhaps those without common sense should just drink their nicotine juice and spare the rest of us from all the laws enacted to protect them from themselves.