The djarum are the same brand. They had to change them a bit and rename them to cigars to avoid the flavored cigarette law several years back.
I see theyâre still for sale at Sheetz truck stops/gas stations here in the Pennsylvania area, though some places you have to ask for them as theyâre not on display. Sadly, they irritate my throat far too much to enjoy regularly, but Iâm sure Iâll try them again sooner or later. Itâs that wonderful smell!
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When I was in college, I introduced one of my friends to pipe smoking and he introduced me to Djarum Blacks. Â As a general lover of tobacco, I eventually developed a taste for them, though it took some time. Â Itâs unfortunate that the Fascists and the Communists that run the United States saw it necessary to team up and ban them. Â Thatâs bipartisanship for you. Â The Djarum cigarillos that replaced them are harsher due to the wrappers that they use, and if you order cigarettes ones from overseas, they are smaller in diameter and have less tobacco. Â One more reason why the PACT Act needs to be repealed.
i remember yrs ago a friend always had a red tin of Djarum. i remember they were a little fatter on one end than the other. when ya puffedâm, lil crackles or pops⌠
⌠i rememberâm well⌠havent had any or seen in a long long timeâŚi do enjoy clove and have some clove snuff. McChrystalâs Holiday snuff this past yr was called cinnamon and was a wonderful concoction with clove in it. i remember the note said it was put together by Ian McChrystal
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@ChairmanMow Djarum Blacks havenât been banned. At least not in Pennsylvania. The pack is smaller but otherwise I canât tell any difference. Sadly, it appears that the Djarum Splash line is gone. I liked that one most of all.
@Tobe the old ones were banned in the states due to pact that covered flavored cigarettes. I used to work at a tobacconist when the law became enacted. I compared the old ones to the new ones at that point in time since we had both in stock. There is a definite difference. As someone else stated you can get the original ones in the 20 pack overseas.
@Psicko What exactly was changed? The taste is still the same to me, and I smoked them regularly enough. Maybe thereâs some nuance Iâm missing⌠I donât know. Iâll take your word for it. I do know that the Splash line and others were discontinued for running afoul of the flavored cigarette regulations.
@tobe not sure what was changed. I havenât smoked them snice the change. If I recall the new ones donât have a filter and they are a bigger ring gauge. Those two could have accounted for the taste change. The new ones tasted more harsh. Changing the ring gauge Also probably messed with the taste as the ratio to filler to wrapper changed. Cigar companies make cigar blends for a specific ring gauge. Most companies make them for robusto sizes and whatever ring gauge is specific to that line of robustos. If you ever smoke the smallest ring gauge of a line and compare it to the biggest, there can be a noticeable difference, especially the when the difference is big like a 46 ring gauge compared to a 70 for example. There might be some more differences between the new and old, but not sure.