@wiscsnuffer You are absolutely right,we use the same tin manufacturer and these things happen sometimes.
@wiscsnuffer,lunecat yes you are rite as our tin printers/manufacturers is the same.some time it happens.We will inform the suppliers for take care in future.
Mine is also a 6 photo on the underside. Whats up with this? It seems like they must be packed in the same factory. Or maybe they just stamp sheets of metal w/ various labels, then punch them out as the different snuffs are packaged. One thing is certain, they donāt have anything resembling quality control in their production facilities. It sometimes makes me a little nervous about what may get dumped into batches of snuff. When Iāve looked at the snuff websites from India, they all say everything is produced under āthe strictest standardsā, but still I wonder if thats the truth. I rather doubt it, but I still enjoy the Himtaj. I just hope it isnāt fortified with pure mercury, arsenic or something lethal. Those scorpion logos with the words ātobacco killsā kind of make me worryā¦
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ā¦conātā¦ well, I really do enjoy all the Indian snuffs, and Iām sure my reactions are partly based on the fact that I live in the US, where everything is labeled and labeled and labeled until everything seems like it might be dangerous. I didnāt mean to sound ethnocentric. I just worry about that sort of stuff since a few years ago my cat died from eating canned cat food that had this chemical called melamine in it. I researched it and found that a certain Chinese supplier had added it to one of the components in several major brands of dog and cat food sold in the US. I just wanted to explain that Iām not pointing fingers at our Indian snuff makers. I just worry too muchā¦and I take a lot of snuff, and buy a lot of itā¦
The way I see it @mrmanos tobacco itself is probably more dangerous than any of the other ingredients in snuff.
The scorpion is there for those that are illiterate, the same also serves as to why there are a number of photos to identify the snuff. I fail to see how you can question the standards that a company has without any first hand knowledge by witnessing the process or even inquiring from the manufacturer of their tolerances and data for you to blatantly say that you doubt they maintain āthe strictest standardsā. In the US we donāt even have strict standards. Arsenic, pesticides, strychnine, molds and hosts of other toxins are perfectly acceptable in the food we produce and the animals we consume. I just think it is unfair to the snuff manufacturers from India, as indicated in the above posts, that their process and standards they claim to aspire to are lies, based off the theory of your paranoia.
@squid, while i admire your apparent disposition to jump in and āsave the dayā, you produced no evidence to back up these companies, so your post is largely useless, except for its inflammatory content. @mrmanos, i understand your concerns, and seeing the condition of the indian snuff tubs, and the condition of some american tubs (actually fubar is indian too isnt it?), it does worry me a little. that certificate does ease me a little, but not much since it is out of date, and anything could happen in 3 years. where did you get it @lunecat? id like to point out my concerns are not limited to indian companies. i continue to use snuff, but i do not want to just shut up and take it for granted. dont call a forumer out and shoot down their post without real reasoning.
Again with this anti-indian nonsense, some people just never learn 8-|
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I just canāt tell if itās because theyāre unwilling or incapable.
I am more-than-a-year user of Six Photo snuffs, so this is my own experience: the quality of the products is very stable. If I buy a new tin of Kailash (regardless of the size) I got the same colour, consistency, scent, nicotine level, etc. Everything is exactly the same every time. This can only be achieved by strict quality control, IMHO. The tins are such as they are. Cheap, simple packaging, thats all. Did you ever see a pack of Grimm&Triepel chewing tobacco? It is made in Germany, in the middle of Europe, where everything is under strict regulation - but the package is made of cheap cardboard and grease-proof paper, seems like something from 1950 
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Just popped the tops of the golden and the black .Tried the golden first very exotic the black is good but not as flavorful. They both get the shamans seal of approval 
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Indian snuffs have become some of my favorites. 6p Kailash and #66 have become daily snuffs for me. Iām looking forward to trying the Himtaj black and golden.
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@mrmanos I highly doubt 6 & 41 photo are pressing out their own tins. The quality issues are with the company stamping them out and not the snuffmakers. I actually thought it was more interesting than anything.
I wouldnāt take offence at what @mrmanos said. After all there are lots of cases of poisonous things coming out of the east, like those plastic beads that metabolized into GHB and put children into comas. I do think the fear is baseless here - for one thing snuff is pretty simple to make and shouldnāt even be near dangerous chemicals at any point during the production process - but thereās no need to hint at his being a racist. The fact that so many of the Indian snuff manufacturers post here only puts my mind even more at ease. Iād say one possible concern with European AND Indian snuffs is that the plants themselves could be grown in polluted soil. A lot of European snuff comes from Zimbabwe after all. But really I donāt worry about it.
Again with this anti-indian nonsense, some people just never learn 8-|
As i said, im not talking about purely indian snuff, the only reason indians are mentioned here is because the conversation started because of an issue with an indian snuff tin. Lets not artificially turn this into a racism discussion, because it isnt. Thats what happened in the last thread i believe. If people have concerns about a product based on evidence and actual events, they should be able to air those concerns without fear of being attacked for it and accused of racism or being āincapableā.
I have been buying 6 Photo snuffs for a while now. In fact, 99% of my snuff consumption is 6 Photo Kailash. I have bought small tins and large tins, manufactured over a relatively broad time frame and I can tell you one thing now: The aroma, ātasteā, composition and quality have never changed. They have always been and I know will remain excellent. I am getting really bloody annoyed with people coming on this forum and saying that because a snuff is made in India, or Africa or somewhere that isnāt āWesternā, that it is somehow suspect. Bullshit. You have seen the 6 Photo ISO9001 cert. They are a legitimate, well run company with excellent procedures and quality control. What Iām trying to say is simply this; If you donāt trust Indian snuff in any way, donāt f**king buy it.
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Calm down everyone all @mrmanos said was [quote]well, I really do enjoy all the Indian snuffs, and Iām sure my reactions are partly based on the fact that I live in the US, where everything is labeled and labeled and labeled until everything seems like it might be dangerous. I didnāt mean to sound ethnocentric. I just worry about that sort of stuff since a few years ago my cat died from eating canned cat food that had this chemical called melamine in it. I researched it and found that a certain Chinese supplier had added it to one of the components in several major brands of dog and cat food sold in the US. I just wanted to explain that Iām not pointing fingers at our Indian snuff makers. I just worry too muchā¦and I take a lot of snuff, and buy a lot of itā¦[/quote] I donāt see anything racist about that. He saw that the tins were messed up and it got him to thinking there could be something wrong with the snuff too. I donāt think thereās anything to worry about with Indian snuff but thereās no need to be upset with him either.
@horus92 What I am saying is that if there was anything wrong, with the snuff or the tins, then 6 photo wouldnāt have been given a ISO9001 cert. @mrmanos says: āOr maybe they just stamp sheets of metal w/ various labels, then punch them out as the different snuffs are packagedā which is actually correct as the tins are made by the same company, but then follows it with: āOne thing is certain, they donāt have anything resembling quality control in their production facilities. It sometimes makes me a little nervous about what may get dumped into batches of snuffā. How can you say that? Why would he come to the correct conclusion, then come out with what is a racist, rediculous, libellous and completely unfounded statement! The companies mentioned quite obviously have very strict quality control and do not ādumpā anything into their snuff. I suggest @mrmanos you better play it safe and stay away from all tobacco products, just in case. And if you want to post defamatory remarks about a company, donāt do it infront of them and their customers.
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If someone has a problem with any company send em an email and fire away. To me it doesnāt matter what anybody says about a product. If I like it, I like it and if I donāt, I donāt. The sun supposedly causes cancer these days but I still go outside. To each their own and if someone is worried about a products quality, donāt use it. I for one love 6 photo snuffs and will continue to order them till I die. Whether that is tomorrow or another 30 years from now. Just my 2 cents. Soā¦nice weather were having aināt it?
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Hi Everyone! I thank you all for your love and support. Let me make a few things clear. 1st of all the problem was not with the 6 photo tins,but with the tins of 41 photo snuff. As I said earlier we both use the same tin manufacturer and such mistakes happen sometimes.Having said that we at 6 photo reject all such packing material and tins. A positive outcome from this discussion is that we have updated our website with the new ISO certificate which shall be valid for a period of three years.Please be assured that we take every possible measure to maintain the quality of our snuff and packing and do not add any hazardous chemical to enhance its flavor or potency.We still manufacture our snuff the traditional way with a recipe about 100 years old. On another note i do agree that the quality of some of the tins may not be up to the international standards but you must understand it in the context of the Indian market which is very price sensitive. Snuff in India is largely used by the tribals and villagers.Spending a large amount on the tins makes them costly and hence un-competitive. The good news is that we have introduced vacuum sealed tins for the western market and henceforth all our snuff shall be available with mister snuff in these 30 g vacuum sealed tins.
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