Tranter Dr Johnson

Hey, you’re really expanding your horizons fast, petersuki. Taxi and Ntsu! Wow! Not gentleman’s snuffs by any means. Roughneck snuff, as Pieter Claassen would say. Anyway, yes I daresay they would quell any nicotine craving. The high moisture content and extremely course grind makes them easy just to pack your nose full. I’ve tried doing this with London Brown and other SG rappees but the South African brutes have a more potent kick.

Sorry Mark. Can’t get unhooked that easy. Still need the taste of smoke, sometimes even when I have a nose full of snuff. Xander The GH KendaL Brown - if it’s scented it must be only very very slightly, is very nice and more-ish. I like the texture and moisture. The Light D can be used as a condiment to heavier rougher snuffs. Amazingly ‘sweet’ on its own. Might be into buying an 8 oz tub of Tranters fairly soon. Dr Johnson? I bought a Zircote snuff box from snuff store, for small daily supplies. Expensive, for what it is, but attractive and functional.

Gawith Hoggarth have a scented and unscented Kendal Brown. The scented one says so on the label. I happen to like both. Samuel Gawith have actually 4 versions of KB: Plain, Scented, Original, and Special. Of these, I have not tried ‘Scented’ but of the other 3, I prefer ‘Original’. Smith’s have a very good KB as well. Its probably one of the above repackaged.

Must try the SG KB and perhaps the Smiths at some stage. Well I have good news and bad news. In that search for the niceest workaday medium brown (SP?) I have reached a pretty definite conclusion. Despite my best intentions my favourite of the 3 Tranters and the 3 Covents is… The Mature Crumbled. This is a bit of a bugger really. At £4.50 a tin it’s miles away the most expensive (over 7 bucks!). Some reviewers have described all sorts of subtleties. I find the richer tasting tobacco wins. I don’t have the physical equipment to analyse flavourings. It’s not highly citrusy, I get something very subtley scented after a while when the tobacco goes. Very distant rose? I have emailed Davy’s to enquire about larger containers. (Since I’m used to paying double for a 50 grm tin of SG flake which would last less than half as long I think I’ll be prepared to pay the premium for now.) Overpriced, perhaps, but good.

Interesting. Mature Crumbled is one I have not tried. Since all clues say that the Covent snuffs are made by Wilsons of Sharrow, I would suggest experimenting with their SPs for a less expensive comparable substitute. They have quite a few: Best SP, SP 100, SP 2, SS, SP Silver, Gold Label, Tom Buck/Queens Extra Strong

Have here a small tin of SP best. Much sharper, lighter. Not a thing wrong with it. The crumbled is darker, coarser, but silky smooth, deeper more chocolatey/tobaccoey. Would be interested in a ‘darker’ Sharrow though not so far as a heavy rappee style.

Sharrow’s darkest ones are not nearly as course as SG’s. They call one their black rappee, I think its Brunswick. Its only moderatley course compared to Samuel Gawith Black Rappee. Smells totally different too. Its scented something like an SP. Oddly, they call Grand Cairo their red rappee, and its not at all course. Anyway, Brunswick, Best Dark and Princes are the three coursest-moistest from WoS. I’m not sure which one would be close to Mature Crumbled. Maybe none of them. Where’s ermtony when I need him?

Not a million miles away :smiley:

The Mature Crumbled is indeed an excellent snuff but I haven’t found one that Wilson’s sell that comes close. The nearest is probably Gold Label with a bit of age on it, though it isn’t the same. The Tranter’s version is possibly closer than the Wilson’s.

In colour, texture and moistness it’s very similar to Hedges L260 (silky and moist?) base tobacco, though perhaps SLIGHLY coarser, and without that medication…

Aha! That’s even more interesting. All of this talk makes me want to try this one all the more. The Tranters’ too for that matter.

I’m new to this as you know and your input and that of ermtony ( and philipS) are appreciated. The Tranters and the Covent’s are close. Dr Johnson is not a million miles from Mature Crumbled. I appear to find the latter slightly more complex and satisfying. All these snuffs appear to ‘pinch’ similarly to the Hedges tobacco. I wonder if there’s any family connection? I see Hedges also use the so called Wilson style 25 grm tins.

Hedges is owned by Imperial Tobacco, same as J&H Wilson.

So it is reasonable to suppose that all these snuffs are made in Sharrow. I would be interested to know where the Hedges was/is made. Is there a connection with Wilson’s that pre-dates the Imperial Tobacco days, I wonder. I am not a fan of Imperial Tobacco. I think of two destinctive, unique and lovable British pipe tobaccos: Gold Block and Three Nuns. These are now horrible impersonations of their once true selves. No doubt their production was ‘rationalised’ to extract maximum profit from their once respected names. Changing the subject, I am not a fan of mint or menthol. Last night after snuffing heavily all day, I tried a sniff of Crumbs of Comfort (Wilson’s). It was amazingly nice

J&H Wilson broke off of Wilson’s of Sharrow long before Imperial bought the former. Any similarities in tin design must be coincidental. I don’t know where Imperial does their snuff grinding, but since they are an international company, it could be anywhere. Hedges was independent once too. I’m not up on the history of that one, but it was one of the first medicated snuffs. There is a lot of info out there written about them. Hedges had other snuffs too, at that time.

Ah well…so long as these snuffs remain available. As you can see from this thred, I’ve tried a lot of different snuffs in short order. I will be holding off buying more for a while. One that I am interested in from review would be SG SP No 1 High Mill. Have you any thoughts on this one?

Yes, that’s something I think you will like, judging by above. Its richer and a bit heavier than Sharrow’s SPs. It comes in scented and unscented versions. There is also SP Scotch from Samuel Gawith, which is richer and heavier still. The scenting in the ones I have tried relies more on the tobacco rather than the citrus tones, which are light. As always, avoid the tap boxes to get maximum freshness.

O dear, two more I would like to try. Still, must exercise some self restraint. I will probably need to try these before I buy anything in bulk. Do you happen to know if these are availble in larger tubs rather than the (very good) tins?

These two shops carry Samuel Gawith in bulk. Generally you have special order them, but the SPs being popular are apparantly in stock at My Smoking Shop in both drums and half-drums. http://www.mysmokingshop.co.uk/ http://www.snuff.me.uk/

McGahey’s may also have them, but I’ve never used this shop: http://www.the-tobacconist.co.uk/