Thanks for the input everyone. I anticipate a lengthy learning process due to the fact: I have never dipped or chewed. I may have trouble (a lot of trouble) learning to deal with something in my oral cavity. I ordered a pris thingy maybe it will help me not to have tobacco fallout. I went back and read the reviews on Landströms and Gellivare on Northener site. Advertising can be misleading (I forgot that). Thanks Ed