Vathek … i have read ample on the effects of nicotine regarding dopamine and seratonin on the brain … i will try to dig out the links i have, see if they pass the eyeball test for you … i, personally, think that the research joe dug up is valid … as i am my own case study on this … just my opinion, mind you … additionally, while simply conjecture, it would not come as a shock to find out, down the line, that the big tobacco companies have tweaked their cigarette blends to amplify any effect on the brain re:dopamine, with all the chemical combinations as yet unknown to the general public … 
sorry joe but your collegue is an idiot or snake oil salesmen. I’ll go with idiot because the other one makes him a bad person who should be punched in the head to reduce his seritonin levels. 50% is a specfic number that would idicate some really serious problems beyond depression. I mean the person would function anywhere near the level a depressed person can function on. Your collegue is full of shit and should be told to shut up. Also even if smokers have lower rates of seretonin love the complete lack of demonstrate any evidence of what the corralation actual is must be smoking. He must have spent years tracking peoples chemical levels before and after smoking. Maybe being studied so closely by a quack is what lowered their levels of seretonin 50% since he would need a baseline level to even figure out such a specfic number. Really any body who even barely understand lab procedure and how to use science could rip his little letter of lies apart in a few seconds. Joe I trust you but don’t listen to this guy he’s a lair or moron.
Vathek are you saying information needs basis to be usefull and not just made up? Wow that’s radical. Oh wait that is standard.
Thsnkyou bob and no offence taken and please take no offence to " you have strong opinions based on what you beleive which is fine …but their is no need to slate and dismiss other peoples opinions and beliefs like you did using the words u did just because you don’t like them or beleive them. It could go on and on me saying how is your comments based in fact vise versa etc etc I think my colleague is right but I won’t say your full of shit because I don’t agree with what u say !!!
The truth is the figures could be less or more as we have no idea what goes onto tobacco anymore and that’s the scary thing also what makes what my colleague says possible
This kind of thing irks me. Scientific speculation is quackery, there’s no two ways about it. Science is not a belief system, the beauty of science is that what you believe is immaterial- science provides facts. If that guy has a hypothesis, then he should perform an experiment, not write a paper of guesses. Serotonin levels are something that can be measured. Until he does that and proves his hypothesis, he’s a charlatan. I’m sorry, but there is a very sound basis to slate and dismiss someone’s opinions and beliefs if those opinions and beliefs are being peddled as scientific facts.
What in the way he did ? I disagree but then I guess I’m more polite in the way I dismiss or disagree on things … And yes their is scientific evidence to prove what my collegue says. This is going to turn into a mess so il make this my final comment . Everyone has different beliefs and we should all respect each other for having them …
“Scientific speculation is quackery, there’s no two ways about it. Science is not a belief system, the beauty of science is that what you believe is immaterial- science provides facts.” Bingo! We have a winner…
:oD is there a pirize? Anyhoo, let’s get back on to tips for the smoker trying to quit or reduce the amount they smoke by using snuff…
Good idea. On that note, I’m finding that snuff is quite the hobby these days. While I have lost that separation from what I’m doing when I step outside for a smoke, I find that I get it back with other things. Checking these boards, browsing Mr. Snuff, and reading reviews all provide a little break in my day, which was one of the biggest bonus of having to leave the building to smoke.
Yes, I did miss the break part. I worked a straight eleven hour shift with no breaks, and while I didn’t miss the nicotine, I sure missed standing outside and not having to think about work for five minutes. Smoking is a package deal, but the problem is not insurmountable. You just have to find a way around these things. I would have been a lot more frustrated if I couldn’t step outside for five minutes AND was craving nicotine!
I am happy to report about 7 or 8 weeks of no rollies. Sometimes I do get a very strong urge to inhale burning paper and tobacco smoke, it only lasts about a minute, and a nice big pinch of something strong kills it fast. I smoke a pipe too, but like it was mentioned, it is a totally different experience, no way to get that rush, like from a nice pinch of snuff. I have found even after smoking a bowl of my strongest leaf, or even a cigar, or an hour with a snus pouch, a good pinch will still deliver a rush. Interesting notes on serotonin. I wonder if that has anything to do with the three-day hump? You know, once you get to 3 days of no smoke, it’s “downhill” from there? I have found vigorous exercise helps very much, the burning in the throat from gasping for air actually feels good, and slakes the irrational thirst for burning fumes. It becomes addicting, but of all addictions, the desire to be gasping for air and the O2 high is one of the easiest addictions to break.
I gave up my addiction to exercise years ago. It freed up plenty of time for me to work on my stomach fat collection. It’s my most prized possession.
i just snuff crushed up chantix if i am craving a ciggie ( joking )
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1507093/pdf/bmjcred00678-0014.pdf Have you guys seen this study? It actually proves that snuffing gets as much nicotine into the system as smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes work better on a hit by hit basis but snuffing will get the concentration of nicotine in the blood system much higher. So if you are trying to quit smoking snuff is a perfect substitute for nicotine delivery.
I agree- apart from the buzz that is. Cigarettes (at least for me) seem to get nicotine into my system faster, but when I take snuff I can feel it build up more gradually. I found that rather than waiting to crave, it was better to go by my watch and take the snuff like medicine. That way, I was pretty much on a level the whole time, without the yoyoing effect of smoking. I know I keep banging on about it, but eleven hours without smoking is a huge deal for me, and I feel that if I can go that long, I could switch full time if I chose to. Funnily enough, when I worked yesterday I was able to step out for a quick smoke. Not only was I not champing at the bit to smoke, but I found that I couldn’t smoke the cigarette all the way. The snuff must have delivered a good smooth dose of nicotine. I wonder how much nicotine is absorbed long after snuffing when we inevitably swallow a small amount postnasally? That could account for the consistency of the nicotine level.
@cstokes4 Chris, just wanted to draw your attention to the medical report posted by @greencrow. I’m sure its been posted before, as it looks familar, but you probably want to make sure its in the FAQ articles archive.
The conclusion of that report says: In conclusion, the rapid absorption of nicotine from snuff confirms its potential as an acceptable substitute for smoking. Switching from cigarettes to snuff would substantially reduce the risk of lung cancer, bronchitis, emphysema, and possibly coronary heart disease as well, at the cost of a slight increase in the risk of cancer of the nasopharynx (or oral cavity in the case of wet snuff). Another advantage of snuff is that it does not contaminate the atmosphere for non-users.
Thanks for the heads up @Xander.
and remember kids (adults actualy) that a slight increase in a rare cancer is much better then a significant increase a common cancer is even safer then it sounds.