Worrying study done on snuff.

http://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/pressroom/newsreleases/2009/august/new-study-expands-the-list-of-hazardous-chemicals-in-smokeless-tobacco.html

Would anybody care to shed some light on this…

Firstly, to them “snuff” equates to dip. Secondly, as a trained statistician, I can always find the right results to satisfy my client.

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No one ever said smoke was safe, this article refers to fire cured tobacco, which is cured in barns by smoking the tobacco leaves with smouldering fires.

People have been using snuff for hundreds of years, this study doesn’t make it any more or less harmful.

@snuffsahoy - It’s interesting to me that fire-cured smokeless tobacco, like Skoal or Copenhagen, creates the need to spit, whereas steam-pasteurized tobacco like Swedish snus does not.  The spitting seems like the body’s natural rejection of something that isn’t good for it.

Begs the question, are some of the types of snuff we use fire cured…

Even then, http://rodutobaccotruth.blogspot.com/ Spit tobacco actually has saliva production enhancers. But this article would make one afraid to eat BBQ too often too though wouldn’t it?

The spitting comes mainly from the high sugar content and the fact that you put dip in your lower lip near salvitory glands where as snus goes in the upper lip away from the salvitory glands.  And the main purpose of saliva is to dissolve simple sugars which dip is loaded with.

I agree @n9inchnails, snus in the lower deck behaves identically to dip in the upper deck for me.

@Oliver, fire cured probably can’t be hidden. That smokey scent is fire cured. Very common in American Scotch, rather hard to find elsewhere but everywhere unmistakable.

@snuffsahoy Good to know thanks

Studies aren’t generally carried out by people who are curious, they are commissioned and funded by people who have often already decided what message the want to convey, and just want it reinforcing academically/scientifically. Otherwise, why would they pay for the study in the first place?

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The study results sound logical. I would say use moderate amounts of fire-cured tobacco.

@50ft_trad Funny how you can always find a study whose findings contradict the findings of an earlier study…

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Dr Rodu is one of the peer reviewed, published research scientists in studies like the one you posted, check his personal blog that I posted above to get another opinion on the subject @Oliver. I always like to see two sides before I make a choice if I can.

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@Tobe Indeed! The article focusses on what is in those products, with a rather blatant absence of acknowledgement of what may not be in them, and is worded to negate or discredit other studies.

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I’ve always heard it’s good practice to use moderation when ingesting anything, and that would include snuff…
except when it comes to HDT and Pure Virginia Toast

:open_mouth:

The most important thing to use in moderation is moderation :stuck_out_tongue:

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@MarkM, snus used to contain fire-cured tobacco, as late as the mid 2,000’s, although by then it was being phased out. 

I’ve got more snuff up my sneck than I can handle right now, and I don’t care! Maybe they ought to study that!