Oh man… I am freaking out, as they used to say in the stoned old days… I generally keep my head in a cupboard or something. I thought PACT was just about cigarettes and dip. Why am I worried? I have, over the last two weeks placed a few hundred dollars worth of orders with Mr. Snuff and a smallish order with Toque. Now, after more fully reading this and other forums, I am starting to get the sinking feeling that everything I’ve ordered might be confiscated. My first order from MS arrived without problems. It contained largely, non-tobacco sniffs, although there were also two tins of Red Bull in the order. Total travel time with basic Royal Airmail was around a week. However, the order I placed the day after I placed the first one has not yet arrived. Questions for fellow Americans: 1.) Have you ever had an order from MS or Toque confiscated by Customs? 2. What is the typical delivery time between order and delivery for both Toque and MS? (I live in the north central part of the U.S.)? 3. Is there any remedy or way to recoup my money, should Customs have confiscated my orders? Thanks for any reassurances, or even more for the straight information on this. I fear I may have just pissed away a very large (for me) sum. Thanks, Paul
Please take a deep breath. Everything’s going to be OK. I haven’t heard of any orders large or small confiscated by customs. I have had orders take 33 days to NYC suburbs, but they always arrive. That’s not typical, but it has happened. Normal is closer to 10-12 days. In the unlikely event your order magically dissapears, both Dave @ Mr. Snuff and Roderick @ Toque are stand-up gents and will take care of you, either by re-sending, or perhaps by some other recourse. Please read the shipping info on their respective sites, as this topic is covered by Mr. Snuff, and probably by Toque, as well. KEEP CALM and CARRY ON.
Yeah and you won’t go to jail if they confiscate it. The worst thing that happened with customs was around the holidays a few years ago. Packages took forever to arrive and a lot of packages seemed to be searched. The snuff got through so… Even when customs is looking they don’t give about snuff.
I have ordered pre and post PACT, no difference. Never had anything opened or confiscated by customs.
@Puff…thanks for the reassurance. @ Bob. I wasn’t at all worried about arrest, etc. Just don’t want to lose my money. Funny thing. As I am eing blind, the Internet provides some challenges to me. One such challenge is that I’ve never been able to find the Shipping and Return policy page on Mr. Snuff. In fact, I just e-mailed them to request a copy be sent to me of the policy. I have no trouble reading the rest of their site, and in fact have posted reviews and obviously, have ordered a pile of snuffs from them. See, when I get into something, my mode is to dive in head first. My orders with Mr. Snuff total nearly $600.00, money that I am loathe to lose. i want to try everything, and to reacquaint myself with some old favorite snuffs, so my initial round of orders was…er…excessive. Typical of my own stupidity, I placed all these orders before reading about PACT. But yeah, I’ll take a breath and chill out about this. If snuff seems to be getting through, I won’t worry. The only reason I’m going the importation route is that nobody in my area even knows what nasal snuff is, and the local tobacconist (who sells more RYO and dope paraphernalia than anything else) doesn’t want to do special orders for me. So, I have no other choice than to order from england. If I spoke German, maybe I could order directly from Poschl, but that would eliminate all the fine offerings from WoS, F&T, FT and MC. Not to mention the Dutch, Belgian, Polish and others. Thanks again.
Your worried about nothing, never once had a problem, and I have imported more than several people put together. It is not an issue in the US. I have ordered and received four separate five pound shipments. Same for snus. They just do not care about snuff and snus. The only delay I ever had was a Volcano, and Christmas rush. It’s all gonna be fine my man!
@Whalen: Where did you order your volcano? My supplier is out.
I too have gotten vaporizers, but have always bought them at local shops. Very good news, and thanks all who have replied addressing my (perhaps unfounded) worries. Your help and advice is appreciate more than you can know. Now if I can just figure out how to insuflate Dholakia without choking… LOL
I want a volcano too. great for getting scents into the air really nice with cinnamon. Squinty you’ll get your snuff and the worst thing that could happen (which hasn’t ever ever seemed to) is you could get charged taxes.
I live in the upper peninsula of Michigan and my orders from Mr snuff and toque usually take a week. I’ve never had an order confiscated by anyone but my parents. I’ve heard of orders arriving with one tin crushed and all over the place or even the whole of it destroyed, but I’ve never had it happen to me. (knock on wood)
I have never had any problems with customs either. The PACT is one of t the craziest laws ever passed… and that’s saying something with our politicians… lol
No need to worry. Both Mr Snuff and Toque ship in a very timely fashion. I would say my average time is slightly over a week to the east coast. Before you know it you will have some nice big packages on the stoop.
Honestly I had more issues with orders before PACT. I had 3-4 orders “inspected” either by Customs or the Postal service. Post PACT I’ve had no problems. Orders from Mr.Snuff and Toque take about a week to Ohio. Toque seems to have a slight edge in speed, but I refuse to complain about a day or two difference. The only effect PACT has had on my orders is raising shipping costs on snus. I believe the English Post is responsible for the increased shipping costs of snuff.
Whew! Thanks again. BTW, I’ve bought so much snuff over the past week that I also felt compelled to buy glass bale-lid “kilner” jars… I’m preparing for the Mayan Zombie Apocalypse on December 21st…or is it the Zombie Mayan Apocalypse?
Your right! Should say the only delay I had was “DUE TO” a Volcanic eruption, and the Christmas rush. I sure do miss ordering from “two day Tom” though!
DON’T WORRY, BE HAPPY Don’t worry be happy now
From what I read about PACT, it was passed with the support of the tobacco companies so they could freeze the cheap cigarettes from tribal reservations out of the US Market, since a large percentage of those cigarettes were ordered off the internet and sent through the post or via UPS, etc. Of course the stated reason was keeping cigarettes out of the hands of underage smokers. I think the tobacco companies have shot themselves in the foot instead. Nasal snuff is almost impossible to find in the Boston area. I’ve only found a couple of stores. One in Harvard Sq with a pitiful selection, one in Provincetown with a tiny selection, and one in Worcester which at least has a decent selection of some nasal snuff from US companies. Even for US snuffs, I had to order from Mr Snuff. Of course with the selection of non-us snuff Mr Snuff carries, I’ve been buying more and more of the good British, Dutch and Indian snuffs and less of the US snuffs. So PACT introduced me to the wonderful world of international snuff. I’ve not had a problem with US Customs and any shipment. The usual time for an order to arrive has been between 5 and 10 days. The only time an order took a long time to arrive was when I placed an order while the proprietor of Mr Snuff was on vacation and the order took an unusually long time to ship.
Being a snuff or snus user in the US is just a pain in the ass. We are not subjected to the outlandish customs and duty like Canada, thank god, I feel for my Canadian brothers. But the Pact fiasco has just served as a major delay and added cost to acquiring them, I have noticed a remarkable decline in snus enthusiasm, not so much snuff. I have easy and cheap access to American snuff, dip, and chew, along with a confusing array of hard pressed Chaw. But none of these have much to offer me due to increased risk factors, except the snuff. Thank goodness I have developed a whole leaf source for smoking tobacco for the spouse. The increased shipping costs from Mr Snuff has broken my previous habit of collecting snuffs willy nilly, I now just procure certain snuffs only when it is discounted in some fashion. I still enjoy them, but all the costs add up.
Nasal snuff is almost impossible to find in the Boston area. I’ve only found a couple of stores. One in Harvard Sq with a pitiful selection, one in Provincetown with a tiny selection, and one in Worcester which at least has a decent selection of some nasal snuff from US companies.
@bluemanma What store in P’town has snuff? And what do they carry? Just curious since I didn’t think there was any store within 100 miles of me that carried _any_ snuff.
The worst thing that happened with customs was around the holidays a few years ago. Packages took forever to arrive and a lot of packages seemed to be searched.
I had an order that never arrived a few years ago around the holidays! It was from Mr. Snuff. He either refunded my money or resent it, I really don’t remember, but either way he made it right by me. A recent order from Mr. Snuff didn’t get through the usual channels, it had to be resent through an associate in the states, I still got the order though. Both Toque and Mr. Snuff are top notch retailers that will take care of their customers. I would just be more careful about ordering large quantities all at once, it may raise suspicion at customs. I ordered a 400g Bulk bag from Toque just to see if it would get through. Came through no problem. Enough to last for a while, but I will order more bulk spread over a period of time just to stay stocked up.