My Tobacconist told me that Wilson’s of Sharrow were effectively illegal in the U.S. now because they won’t submit an ingredients list to the FDA; they won’t be getting anymore in. Has anyone else heard this? Hopefully we can still get this online. I stocked up on whatever they had left but I wonder if the information they have is suspect. Can anyone confirm this? I’ve been a tobacco user and retailer for some twelve years and I’m getting tired of finding a new product I enjoy only to have it snatched away. Is it any wonder I have tobacco hoarding tendencies? Thanks for any input.

I think it’s just illegal to sell it not possess it. So order from the UK.

Yep, we’ve heard of it. Basically, see all the discussions from June to August. At present, aside from the US Scotches (not even 100% sure with them) every brand of snuff is illegal to sell in the US. Toque was the only brand of snuff to submit what the FDA wanted, and last I heard it hasn’t been approved because the FDA want Roderick to put warnings about oral cancer on the tins, and he’s refused due to the patent absurdity of the notion. I guess there were a lucky (or unlucky, since they missed out on the chance to hoard like the rest of us) folks out there who didn’t hear about the PACT Act.

Well the snuff you buy online will be a lot fresher as rule than anyhting in atobacco shop, especially if you order in bulk, so maybe theres a slight silver lining.

I think there are/were only 4 tobacconists in the entire US that sold WoS over the counter anyway. They all no doubt got it from Sheffield Exchange which I think was associated with that Snuff Shop in Texas. So that guy’s interpretation of the law is what matters. As for making possibly libelous statements that are based on hearsay, I would not presume to say what they rufused or did not refuse to do. A quick e-mail to Wilsons should get an accurate answer.

So the oral cancer thing will be on all tins? Shame.

i guess after that, i have to pack a lip of Toque *lol*

@Roderick: There is no law that says you can’t add a label of your own, “Not for oral use.” That should keep the FDA confused (or set them straight) and also let the public know what it really is.

Can you put a counter label on the back. Like other magic effects toque has causes toe cancer in your enemies eyeballs?

Of all the gals I’ve dated only a very few had that warning label [“Not for oral use”] on their foreheads. The warning worked really well for me. I avoided them and relabeled them as “a waste of my time”. IMO, sometimes a label can be very helpfull. just sayin

Wtf? Really? Nasal snuff causes oral cancer? By that logic it also causes rectal cancer if you happen to want to shove it up your arse. I’ve never heard such ludicrous horse shit in all my life.

Lol, hate to laugh because its stupid that u have to go through this but maybe you should include a small instruction for use on a peice of paper made to fit inside the tin so as to not turn away customers that might misunderstand and try it orally.

i think Amostrinha have a warning like this on the tin.

It does. At least the one I got once had a warning for nasal use only.

“Lion & Key Amosthrina Snuff Tobacco Take this excellent tobacco for the nose only.” I think I will do just that.

Well guys, last I heard Roderick was understandably refusing to do this, so that’s why Toque isn’t popping up in at least a couple of tobacconists over here. The FDA has gotten so used to snuff meaning something like Copenhagen that they’ve forgotten where the word comes from, and insist their rules require all snuff to have the “This product may cause oral cancer, gum disease and tooth loss.” and “This product is not a safe alternative to cigarettes.” warnings. We know both are utter garbage, but that’s the FDA for you.

The FDA is what it is…Food Drug Administration! They are not tobacco experts by any means.

FDA = F–k–g Dumb Arseholes

I stand corrected, Pieter…heh

Big cheers for Roderick for all his hard work! (can’t help the double post)

@bipolarbear, I LOVE your “sign”. I’ve been a FORD fan since my childhood days. My dad had a '58 FORD F100 on which I learned to drive. I’ve had all of them, from Anglia 105E, 997cc and 1200cc, Corsair GT, Escort 1300 GT, XR3, all the Cortina models, all the Sierra models, Sapphire, Mondeo, Bantam and now my Ikon. I did wander a bit, owned a Renault Gordini and a Mercedes Benz 230/6 way back when. But I will remain a FORD fan 'till my dying day. Sorry for going off topic!!

Ford is the way to go. I just signed my life away on a 07 ford ranger nice little truck. im usually more of a full sized guy but the savings on fuel is gonna pay about every third payment and I can do nearly everything I could do with my full sized. Sorry for the highjack in progress.

@ Pieter…I call bullshit!! When you were a young man the automobile hadn’t even been invented.

Hey PP, now you given my age away to all the new members!

We are all equal. Doesn’t matter which century you were born in. ;)…Besides I’m right there with you. But I’m spry. lol lmao love your new avatar mate.

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I’ve already been ordering online but really liked picking it up at a brick and mortar store. Plus I had hopes that the tobacco shop I work at would be able to start carrying some fine snuffs. I guess all those hopes are dashed for the moment. Thanks again

That’s so good to hear you’ll be available in US Roderick! To bad you have to appease the fda.

@Roderick - Good work! I can’t wait to buy Toque locally. I have 1 shop to recommend if you want.

@Roderick Is there some kind of literature or info that would be particularly important to a shopkeeper, that would help send them your way? In other words how do I get my local shop to sell your snuff.

good question JD. It would be much easier to convince shop owners to indulge if we had some sort of promotional materials.

The best way to get a shop keeper to carry any product is to convince him there is a ready market for it in his locale. If he knows there are enough customers who will buy it to make it profitable for him to tie up his geld and shelf space, he will carry it,

Well he previously carried a small assortment of dean swift snuffs and when I asked he stated that he does sell a reasonable amount (and it always seemed quite fresh). Now the last time I went in I asked for snuff and he didn’t have any, being in a hurry I did not inquire further but I am assuming it has to do with the new fda law. If I had all of the pertinent information I might convince him to carry toque because as far as I understand toque is now fda certified. Sorry about the block style post but from my mobile proper grammar and format is quite a hassle.

yeah toque is now approved. I can’t imagine that a decent tobacco store couldn’t at least sell enough snuff to keep some on hand.

Thanks for jumping through the hoops for us in the U.S… Many lives will be saved. I’m proud of you. Best wishes for your success here. Live long and prosper!

well before the smoking bans my local sold a decent amount of snuff to penn state students who couldn’t smoke during their lectures.