I hates them soo much. Trend jumping (expletive deleted) hipsters!
Lets get a vote going! 

I think big tobacco hates it too. I’ve never tried it but I love that it’s another tool in your box for getting off cigarettes.

I am not a fan of the whole vaping/medwakh/hookah scene.

Lol I don’t hate it but see it as mildly amusing and a fad who’s days are numbered. I find it kinda sad how folk think it’ll stop them smoking. It might work for a little while thru’ nothing more than novelty value but sure enough the lure of the REAL THING and the stuff vape does not contain, will be too strong to resist. I base that comment on my own, oft-repeated observations. The ones I most feel sad for are those who’ve taken up vaping to be part of the crowd, having never used nicotine previously. Sad,sad,sad. And all these vaping contraptions which get ever more complex! It’s like I can make beer out of the most basic kit which is as good, if not better than the stuff my buddy churns out with his megabucks stainless steel micro brewery which looks like something out of a nuclear power station. But each to their own I suppose…

@fj1988 Hear hear. If someone is looking for a nicotine replacement that works (there is a reason why nic patches and gums don’t work), snus, nasal snuff, pipes, and cigars are the best option for harm reduction. This whole vape thing is a little too edgy for me. Glad that it works for some people, but too hipster for me personally.

I thought it was nice for a minute, puffing indoors and such.  But then the hipsters started going all MacGyver, rigging up massive cloud machines and talking about Ohm’s law like they weren’t flunkies.  Actually I think it was just one hipster that put this image in my head, but it made a lasting impression and I will never again smoke a douche whistle.  I didn’t coin “douche whistle”, but I love it.  Really though, I’m all for my girlfriend using it when she’s trying to quit the cigs.  Cinnamon Pixie Roll - whatever she’s got, smells a lot better than ashtray mouth.  

I think people would be more successful if they changed where their nicotine comes from. Getting your nic fix via your lungs doesnt really break the habit. Your body gets used to where the nic comes from because of how your body processes it. Cigarettes no longer do it for me i think because my body likes it’s nicotine to come from my gums and nose. I can smoke a cigarette but ill still want a snus or some snuff to get completely satisfied. That being said, the only evidence i have are charts showing how long nicotine lasts in your body when comparing smoking to oral tobacco and the psychological addiction of smoking cigarettes

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but millions of vapers who have  used them to quit cigs would disagree with your assessments. 

 That is not to say there aren’t a boatload and change of douches playing in the clouds. 

 I vape at work since they banned my pipes. it gets me through the day. 

i agree with you but there are still more people who quit using other means. since 1965, 40% of all people that have ever smoked has quit and e cigs havnt been around very long. My brother actually quit with vaping but i also know at least 10 other people who went out and spent 200 plus dollars on these fancy machines only to go back to cigs a month later. i think its a fad at best. The government here in the U.S. is currently going after the vape industry and you cannot vape anywhere that you also cannot smoke cigarettes. if you want to vape, better start looking for the smoking areas!

btw, i cringe every time i smell a full grown man vaping double apple cherry bubble gum or whatever candy crap smell they are exhaling lol. but thats just me…

I remember when vap machine came out it was a large apparatus you would put a special balloon on top of to collect the vaporized weed. I believe they called it a volcano. 

I like real tobacco . I am not a slave to cigarettes they stink . I don’t know any hipsters. The man bun makes me uncomfortable , I have nothing against a man wearing long hair style or even cross dressers. but that bun is just ridiculous. I don’t know what or how it related to vaping. I just don’t trust inhaling the same liquid I put in my cars radiator. I don’t hate people who vap, smoke hookahs or any alternative smoking device. I feel it that’s what they want to do; who am I to say anything. To each there own.  Live and let live. Life is too short for me to have any concern in this matter. Also there is too much hate in the world separating us from them. We should fine ways to be united as a people. Divided we fall!    http://herb.co/2015/11/11/the-history-of-vaporizing/ 

History of vap Older than you think 

Hahaha I may come across as crude sometimes and when i say hate, i really mean i will playfully make jokes about people who vape. People are gonna do whatever they want and they should be able to do so. im not a fan of rules or etiquette in general. if i doesnt harm anyone else than i simply dont care. thats still not gonna stop me from making fun of man buns or people that vape either

I’m secure enough in my masculinity to vape Raspberry Cotton candy. Once. 

I’ve recently quit vaping and now snuff is my only nicotine delivery. Couldn’t be happier because I much prefer the buzz, the action of taking snuff and also it’s far cheaper (I even made my own vape juice and it’s still far cheaper!). Also, I no longer have to worry about filling my tank or taking extra batteries. To be fair though, vaping did get me off of cigarettes.

I agree. It drives me up a wall when people wear them around their neck like some hipster medal of honor.

I quit cigs in April, after 25 years of heavy smoking. It was a hellish transition, but vaping played a important part of the equation in getting me off the cigs, and has been a huge help in keeping me off them for the last three months. I’m currently weaning down from them, but they are still part of the equation at this moment in time. Yes, I do sometimes wear mine round my neck for convenience, and to prevent damage or spillage in a pocket. I don’t consider it a fashion accessory, and neither do I consider myself a hipster. It’s helping me recover from a 25 year addiction. If that makes me a douche, then so be it. Quite frankly, I don’t give a shit, and I won’t be changing my coping strategies just to appease the narrow minded.

Wow what started as a joke thread really got people going. trust me guys, no one is judging you! relax and vape on my friends.

How come an addictive substance in the form of vaping products and NRT aids can be advertised on the televitz device ( in the UK at least ) under the pretence of smoking cessation? For the life of me I can’t envisage glitzy ads for branded methadone endorsed by celebs to get smackheads off heroin. I smell a rat cos I’m quick on the draw like that!

Vaping is expensive compared to snuff IMO because with vaper, you need to get atomizers and different burners or box mods etc…

I don’t hate vaping, it’s just that I started to like it at one point till I learned about snuff, then all my pens just stay where they’ve been for months, in the drawer.

I love vaping. I have been doing it for around 4 years now. Learned to build on mech mods. Learned OHM’s law and spent countless hours teaching safety. I loved smoking cigarettes. I just hated the taste and the potential nasty cancer bit. However hipsters have invaded the scene. Within their arrogance, I have been insulted day in and day out by them working in shops having no clue about the products they sell and their general piss poor attitude. I order juices, wire mods and batteries online just to avoid dealing with these morons. However with my busy lifestyle and the inability to have a fox whenever I like because now its legally in the se class as cigarettes, I’m very turned on to snuff as a flavorful companion to my Variable Wattage mod.

@mrsniffles vaping can be expensive. But if you restrain from buying a new atomizer every month your costs can be as low as $60 a month. I was spending upwards of $400 a month on cigarettes before I made the switch.

Jesus, why start a thread bashing another means of helping people quit smoking? Anyway, back on topic-I never much got into vaping because of how expensive it can get and not really knowing how dangerous the chemicals are. I would also bet people seeing someone stick tobacco up their nose would be labeled as gross or a hipster.

The only possible unknown variable iin juice (from good manufacturers) is the synthetic nicotine. You can buy PG in health food stores or Walmart in medical grade and most pharmacies carry VG. Most flavoring you buy online are food grade as well. Even if they fond something down the road that is a danger, it still is hardly as dangerous as smoking a cigarette or any other form of combustible.

I smoked 20 years. The day I vaped I quit and have not touched a cig in 4 years. I quit because work, restaurants, hotels… etc became illegal to smoke in my state. I thought cool I will just start vape instead. Now I can’t vape in public because it’s banned everywhere so I’m going to throw out my rig and snuff instead. Next they will ban snuff import and I will be fubar. Seems like the gov won’t leave me alone. Last time I was in the hospital was never so don’t give me that B.S about how I am a drain on healthcare. P.s. when I vape in public I hold it in after a hit and blow out no smoke. If I didn’t hold the rig to my mouth you couldn’t even tell I was doing it… just want my nicotine and to be left alone.

I buy 32 oz bottles of e liquid for 48 buck and it last me all year. I change my insert 2 times a month… comes out to about $10 a month to vape. My buddy smokes 2 packs a day and it cost him 12 bucks.

Vaping and the TPD discussed in the Lords Grand Committee 10/05/16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQckjBjxCls

Right on @trotro !

Cost $50 for a bottle that last me a year.

Soon to cost $18 for a 3 day supply. I make $9,000 a year for a family of 3 and can’t afford e juice anymore. Going to switch to the least harmful tobacco which is snuff. Thanks government for getting me back to tobacco and killing me. Hope the lobbyists paid for a nice second vacation home for you.

@RobertAnderson where are you? hopefully not the States. thats as much as a cig habit costs! 

i like how this thread has turned into a general vaping thread. i wish i could rename it to something less sarcastic haha. im trying to get my mom to try vaping btw. my dad hates her pack a day habit

@peacock yeah I live in Illinois. The tobacco act goes into affect 2018. You got about 16 months till the ball drops to get your parents off cigs. After that every flavor (menthol, blueberry, cherry) from every manufacturer Will need to be fda approved. The cost will be millions per flavor. So if you have 30 flavors in your inventory you better I have a large bank account. This cost will get passed to the consumer of course. Driving out most low cost choices. From what the video above shows the u.k. is doing the same thing. Along with it they are also lowering the quantity you can purchase. No more bulk. Just a matter of time before they add a luxury tax for healthcare purposes. So instead of choices we will be stuck with a few top players in the game and inflated prices. In the end the price will be almost the same per day as cigarettes. People will say $#=@ it I may as well be smoking cigarettes. Win for tobacco companies and big pharmaceutical. They have already talked the public into Deming it a public nuisance and I get looked at like I am a smoker again. My wife’s grandma tells us every time we see her that we should go back to cigarettes because e cigs are dangerous. Scare the public, control the facts, destroy the competition. I’m giving up and moving on to snuff happily. If you wanna vape get bulk before 2018 or your wallet is going to pay. Just my 2 cents.

@Robert Anderson well i can understand the want to regulate it to prevent actual harmful things from being put in e juice. however, everybody with half a brain knows you cant trust the fda because they are in the pockets of big business. the 18 dollar price tag might not be accurate either. the fda may just come up with a list of approved ingredients as they do with many other things. we will have to wait until 2018 to see how all this will pan out. in the mean time, buy up a lifetimes supply of juice if it doesnt go bad

@RobertAnderson Makes me glad I’m in Canada. As of right now it’s has only gone as far as treating it like cigarettes. So no vaping indoors in public places and whatnot. It’s being handled provincially instead of federally, and as far as I know, we are not adopting the USA’s plan to make juice makers pay up the yin yang. However the concentrated flavors can be reliable as food flavoring (actually, that’s how they were sold as before vaping took off) and they can use that to get around the FDA’s ruling. Big tobacco wants to monopolize the vaping industry. Just follow the money. Shut them down by buying up all the PG, VG and concentrated flavors that you can and don’t pay them a cent, or the tax the federal government will impose upon big tobacco for regulated e juice.

Well, I vape, and its the ONLY THING that helped me quit smoking. Same with my dad, my wife, my neighbor, and countless friends. I saw a comment up here that said otherwise, but I’m living proof along with countless others that it does work. you can hate vaping all you want, but it helped me.

Also, it’s not quite a fad seeing as it’s been around for over 10 years…

oh no, not this thread again, why wont it just die?! what is it about the internet that makes people so sensitive? 

It also makes some people insensitive.

^ ha! your point has been received!

I highly dislike vaping. I didnt have anything against it…but then I went to a bar, and this one (you dont need to know the word) starts vaping like hes a damn steamroller…and it smelled HORRIBLE! The smell reminds me of walking around in a house that recently burned down. Sure, I could just go out of the bar…and I did, but the smell was stuck in m hair, in my clothes…it was following me around! Hated vaping ever since

@RobertAnderson do you order your e liquids over the internet or buy them in store. When I was vaping trying to quit smoking I used to buy the highest nicotine strength liquid which I think was either 24 or 32mg per ml, the diluting them down myself. I bought a lot of large 50ml bottles for quite cheep online from a good source. I started vaping after a bad motorcycle accident which stopped me being able to walk for a couple of years since it was quite difficult to go outside for a cigarette. I stopped vaping quite awhile ago not only because I misplaced one of the batteries but was getting strange wheezing sounds while exhaling, I also came down with bronchitis a couple of times which I attributed to vaping a lot. I also enjoyed tobacco far too much. Now I’ve quit smoking, thanks to my new friend snuff.

and to answer your question, I neither like nor dislike vaping. I would say some flavors were pleasant although I don’t see the point in it anymore since I want the other alkaloids not just the nicotine. I don’t mind other people vaping, unless they don’t shut up about vaping while trying to have a conversation with them. Although I do enjoy a nice Davinchi portable outdoor vape or a volcano for some grade A herb every once In awhile. Anyway why vape when you can get so much more satisfaction from snuffing

love the bicycle tat

Tried it for a week or so. Too digital and techy for me. I prefer real tobacco. I don’t hate it, but I don’t really admire it much. Still, a lot of friends say that it helps them give up fags, so good luck to em. I never hear anyone tell me that without promoting snuff as a better alternative. I’m happy to say that the woman I’m with, while a non smoker and utterly contemptuous of vaping, thinks snuff is cool and eccentric. I gave her a little silver box full, but it almost blew her head off. I probably shouldn’t have started her off with White Elephant, but it was what I had on hand.

I think white elephant was the wrong choice too. Should have given her some gawith apricot or something similar in grind and moisture.

I gave White Elephant to a total snuff-virgin at work, encouraging him to take a massive hit cos I’m mean like that. After the inevitable reaction and theatrics had subsided ( along with my mirth ), he held me with red, crazed eyes and snarled " you got anymore"?

@psicko, she’s a bit of a tom boy, a rock climber and martial artist and all that. If there was a hint in the air that it was a girly snuff, she’d react badly. Well, she asked for it.

@JakartaBoy, gotta work on your poker face if that’s the case.

I had been smoking for 25 years, and I was really just trying to find something to get nicotine when I couldn’t smoke, having resigned myself to being a smoker for life.
After several unsuccessful attempts to accomplish this with snuff and various NRT products, I gave vaping a try and quit smoking literally overnight by accident.

There IS some other addictive component in tobacco other than nicotine, and I felt a bit weird for around three days after switching to vaping, but vaping stopped 99% of my cravings.
I was so astonished and delighted that I hadn’t smoked that I stuck with it despite a slight nagging feeling that something was missing.
It was only a very slight feeling, nothing even close to craving a cigarette. It lasted only three or four days.

As I said, I never really intended to quit smoking, but when I tried vaping and realized that it was a way out, I seized the opportunity.

I have not smoked a cigarette ever since, and I do not crave them. I can happily stand next to someone smoking a cigarette with no temptation whatsoever.
When I crave nicotine now, I think of my vaporizer - my brain has totally switched over to associating nicotine with vaping instead of smoking.

I mix my own liquid (I don’t even bother with flavorings any more, it was a gimmick to me) and I have been slowly reducing the nicotine level by 1mg/ml per month.
I started on 12mg, and I am now down to 6mg. I’m sticking with 6mg for a while, but I may go lower or eventually taper myself off completely.

Because of the impending new regulations here in the States, I stocked up on supplies. I bought several rebuildable tanks and mechanical mods and 20 years worth of nicotine.
It cost me just under $250, and now my ongoing costs are around $3 per month (that’s not a typo).

It certainly is true that there is a subgroup of idiot hipster vapers who have given vaping a somewhat embarrassing image, but I’m prepared to put up with that in exchange for vastly improved health.

Vaping is not a fad, it is disruptive technology.
Hopefully the hipsters will get bored of it and move on, and stop embarrassing people like me.

Like many (most?) vapers, I’m just a parent who wants to be around for my kids a little longer.

I vape but after using snuff regularly my liquids don’t taste as nice as they used to, it did its job though as I haven’t smoked in 2 and a half years. I make my own liquids but since you can’t get nic in decent sized bottles anymore I’m phasing it out. In short I’m beginning to dislike the vape but have a decent replacement.

I’ve virtually knocked vape on the head too. Aside from the occasional lapse, it’s just pipe tobacco and snuff these days.

I as well, know people who have quit smoking through vaping. I agree though, its definitely to trendy for me to pick up. Its like there is an ongoing social war between vapers and non vapers, and have nothing to do with that. 

I’ve tried all types of devices from a friend. All different types of flavors as well. But I will stick with the plant. No one I know has ever died from tobacco use. They all died from other stuff. 

I like to have a cigarette every now and then, but if its not Nasal snuff, then it is Copenhafen finecut for me. I don’t want anything that relies on a battery. How would you charge it during a zombie apocalypse?

vaping just doesn’t scratch the itch for me. I still feel like it misses some of the needed elements. The experience feels flat. 

it is pretty funny to watch people vape in their cars and see humongous plumes of smoke come out the driver’s side…i guess it’s technically vapor not smoke

I like tobacco in it’s Noble forms of use. I do not prefer the use of any vaping device , but to those that do , that is your choice . Ill stick to pipes, cigars, snuff , chew , and the like .

OK, I guess I can chime in now.

I really have no idea about the types of vaping or how it works. My only form of nicotine consumption is snuff. 

I find vaping to be just offensive. I don’t mean like, you hurt my feelings, offensive. I mean offensive to the senses. I’m very happy that smoking in public crowded places has become all but extinct. I personally can enjoy the smell of some pipe smoke, I don’t want it forced on me. I feel like vaping has reversed the trend of reducing the amount of offensive smells that I am exposed to. Now in places that I have been accustom  to being a smell neutral zone, like a place of worship, suddenly people are vaping 2 feet away from  me. And most of the smells that people are using are really awful, fruity artificial. 

I think people should be able to use what ever substances they want ( for the most part ) as long as it doesn’t invade in my ability to chose what I expose myself to. 

To me vaping in public is like passing gas in an elevator, why are you forcing me to smell that. 

This is one of the things I really like about snuff, there is no collateral damage. I can put what I want in my nose, 2ft away from you, and you are free to keep going  about your life without any offense to your senses ( except maybe for the sniffling, but that is something that people are doing anyway ) 

No matter what you think about vaping, they deserve a kudos for reinventing the wheel. Most vape shops have a vape bar where you can sit down with friends, use their equipment and vape a large selection for free. Of course your going to buy something and some intrigued by the large fumes of vaper you can create are going to want heavier equipment and that is part of their growing world while smoke shops that you can enjoy a bowl or cigar are diminished. I tried vaping several times and found that leaking equipment on warm or humid days to be my biggest fault with them.

I never seen the point as I would rather smoke a pipe and not inhale the smoke, same for cigars I don’t see any harm as long as the smoke is not inhaled into the lungs. G’Day

@TigerJackshere I can understand because I also appreciate 2nd hand carbon monoxide as long as it has a palatable fragrance

I wouldn’t say that I hate vaping, it was what worked for me to quit smoking cigarettes after losing count of how many times I tried to quit previously using a variety different methods that never helped. For the six months I did vape, though, it always felt like fluid was building up in my lungs and that was one of the reasons why I decided to quit smoking in the first place. Haven’t vaped for close to six months now and I don’t miss it one bit.

Nah, I hate vaping period. I have been vaping for a few years and it stopped me smoking and snuffing tobacco but its not been a great experience for me. The thing about vape is that you cannot STOP because there is no STOP. The flavours are mostly crap and it can leave you feeling rough. I have quit vaping using snuff again and its snuff I will be sticking with. Vaping hasnt been a good experience for me and when you compare a Menthol Vape Juice to WOS Crumbs of Comfort then you have no comparison. If you like vape, however, please don’t let me put you off. You enjoy it.

I enjoyed my vaping time, which lasted about a year. Talking about nicotine, I prefered strong, tobacco flavoured juice. I haven’t experienced any ill effects, but wasn’t too excited about constant P(E)G/glycerine inhalations and costs. Finally, I suddenly realised that I don’t want to breath anything but the fresh air. It was this insight which helped me to stop inhaling stuff.

It has kept me off the smokes for 7 years. What bought me to snuff is the logistics of carrying a weeks worth of batteries when leaving civilization. I haven’t actually had a day without vaping since I started snuffing but have cut right back on battery and juice usage.

Hate the smell of cigarettes, but I think I hate the smell of vape more. It’s always very cloying and sickly sweet. It’s like someone is melting cotton candy next to me when I smell it

Vape is subpar low class nicotine delivery.

I hate smoking. The smell of cigarettes makes me irritating.

Vaping was sold as a smoking alternative, but most people I’ve talked to who vape / have vaped say that they consume far more nicotine vaping than they ever did with cigarettes.

I did vape for a short time but I found the maintenance of a vape too annoying to continue on. Ended up smoking pipes instead, far better.

Vapes smell sickly sweet to me.

I’ve never been a smoker; I put that down to my grandfather smoking 60 Capstan Full Strength a day.

If I smoked it would be a pipe - but my wife hates smoking in all its forms so that’s a nonstarter. So it’ll just have to be snuff for me.

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I stick with snuff and pipe. More rewarding and relaxing. I own a vape but it just sits on my shelf collecting dust and sitting so long that the vape juice turned a blood colour. I guess that’s what happens when the juice goes off.

Nicotine absorption from vaping is pathetic. Cigs and snuff tend to be about 10% of available nicotine. Dip, snus, chew, and pipe tobacco tend to be 5-8%. Vaping, 1-2.5% of available nicotine is absorbed. That said, I’ve been vaping inconsistently since March 2014. I was smoking cigarettellos but landed back in combustible work environments and didn’t want to chew/dip. Yes, habitually taking tobacco orally will cause teeth to fall out. Maintenance of modern vape equipment is easy. Stops putting out vapor, changer the battery. Production is low/satans asshole in your mouth, change the ~$3 heating coil which is simply clockwise/rh thread and lasts about 2-4 weeks. A person can make vaping as simple or complex as they’d like. I use custard/tobacco profile e-juices, which can enhance snuff aroma into full on flavor. Yes, a bole of an American blend with a chocolate snuff can be magical but it’s the difference between dark and milk chocolate when compared to a vape, respectively.

I wonder; how many members of the Portuguese House of Burgundy thought snuff was a fad? Yet, here we are practicing witchcraft to talk about the fad ~700 years later.

I do love twisting open a tin and taking a fat pinch.

I looked back @ my thoughts on vaping in 2017 and it isn’t even close to my opinion now. I believe vaping is a poor substitute to smoking because although you remove carbon monoxide you gain a host of new problems for your lungs, to even include cancer from the sugars that are absorbed into the system. Another fact is people who vape to quit smoking are still vaping up our beloved nicotine. I’m glad it’s behind me, Do not fault anyone for their decisions and lifestyle. I only secretly wish them good health and fortune.

Sugar Alcohols. And yes, alcohols are carcinogenic…all of them. If a person isn’t running in excess of 35w (I know you’d think higher would be more limiting, but it’s a motivational force and volume situation) all of the time a majority of the sugar alcohols are converted into sugars. I vape. Vaping is retarded.