Simple question. Is dip just snuff you rub on your gums?

Dip is slang for American moist snuff. You pinch it and put it your lip like snus. Unlike snus, most people spit the juice and generally you use a much larger amount.

US dry snuff can also be used as dip.

It’s also used against ticks on cattle

Cheers guys. Doesn’t sound like my cup of tea. I’ll stick with insuflation.

I do enjoy dip myself- I started out snuffing, then snusing then dip. If you can get used to the spitting it is pleasant enough. Careful brand selection can avoid the nastier chemicals, timberwolf and redman have only slightly higher tsna content than snus for example. That said I did enjoy copenhagen and some grizz!

You may as well have been speaking Mandarin, Bish. What’s Copenhagen, redman, timberwolf, tsna and grizz?

They’re just different types of dip tobacco. I think it’s something that at least should be tried. Maybe stick with higher quality brands if you will only be trying it once. Then you’ll be able to see if it’s your ‘spit-cup’ of tea or not…haha, a little joke there.

@ Bart: please send me a can of tsna brand.

Seriously Oscar, dip started from American scotch snuffs. What is comonly called “dip” nowadays is more an amalgamation of that practice with Swedish snus. However, you can experince dipping (the tradtional practice involves dipping a stick or finger into the snuff can) with the scotch snuffs you already have.

Oh, …ok you mean “Lik-M-Aid”, Xander!! It’s been a long time since I had that! (AKA “Fun- Dip”)

Britons used to be lampooned as having rotten teeth. However, not so long ago the American working class in Virginia must have beaten them hollow-toothed in the rotten stakes. My father spent months each year working at an Anglo-American coal utilisation research project making gas. Some of my earliest holiday memories are of hideous toothless old crones masticating hickory sticks dunked in tobacco and men and women alike articulating endless vowels through stumps of tobacco-blackened teeth and gums. Unlikely that tobacco wrecked their teeth, but the association of oral tobacco and knackered-gnashers remains fixed in my mind - as does oral tobacco and poverty. (At the other end of the social scale old golfing, cigar smoking Virginians were rather like aristocrats with accents, and as class conscious as any frequenter of Savile Row, glee singing contests, Ascot and Henley-on-Thames in England.) For myself, the only other association with oral tobacco are the sailor’s pig tail twists supplied to the Royal Navy cannon fodder during the days of Nelson. Rum, sodomy, the lash and an amputated arm or leg or two by the ship’s surgeon completed the jolly life of Jack Tar. Nelson, of course, didn’t chew tobacco - he took snuff. Oscar, stick to snuff (or a proper cigar) and your etiquette might make Debrett’s. Don’t jeopardise your social standing by mixing saliva with tobacco like the riff-raff.

@phillips your getting my socialist dander up! I feel like putting on overalls and farting in the houses of the mighty!

@Oscar try a can of Copenhagen long cut straight. Bloody gorgeous.

Well, no one could have said it better, even if we don’t agree with it!LOL!

What a bunch of malarkey! Thanks for the point of view though. I don’t think any individual point of view very realistic, including my own.

Dip is what i use when i need a bigbigbig nic hit. Everyone confuses chew with dip though. Chew is long shredded leaves that you chew and then stick in your cheek, spit the juices repeat. It kind of tastes like raisins and has a lower nicotine level then dip, but tastes better imo. Dip is finer cut tobacco and has a huge nicotine hit, around 25 mg/gram. You take a big pinch, place between your lower lip and gums, suck the juices out, spit and after 15-20 mins you spit it out. I cant say how much i love it, although it does make my lip feel like leather…

Keep the revolution in check for now, Bish777 … I tried dark moist oral tobacco in Morocco, sold in little round tins with a plethora of Darija Arabic lettering, and also the rank greenish stuff available in France, sold in large flat tins. The French tobacco was nauseating, but the north African version was very strong and really not bad at all. Unfortunately my missy at the time made it clear by looks and words that, like the queen of old, she was not amused, and I haven‘t taken any since. (Still prefer snuff).

Hold on boys… He has hexed himself!!. Step away from him. Revenge will creep upon Philip for these words like a cooler of tobacco juice dumped on a unsuspecting coach from behind after winning a big game. Now all we must do is wait…

hexed himself? Like Alice in Wonderland, curious follows curiosity. Sounds like an intransitive verb, but what is the meaning of hexed, Bart?

@PhilipS, when you “hex” someone you turn him/her into a frog. That’s according to Liekipedia

Well on the top of a tin of Cope it says 24.2 mg for a gram. Skoal normally has around 26.4, it just depends on how big of a pinch you take. My tins gone in about 8 pinches so they are decent sized.

If he bought it in Canada it has to meet our regs and stating nicotine content is one of them

@Philip, Hexing is similar to bringing bad luck upon yourself I’ve always heard. I don’t take much stock in ‘luck’, so it was just a joke. Some people would come out and say, “Dippers, chew, and anyone who does it are lowlife” But, I actually enjoyed your explanation, even though the heart of the message was the same.

I think dip has quite low pH so nic doesn’t hit so hard. Sometime ago me and this American fella swapped cans of Copenhagen and Grovsnus and found the strength about the same.

Thanks Mich. Will do.

I would never be able to live without my dip.

I have to say, if you have not tried dip, or oral tobacco, or maybe you have years ago, but been curious again, do not do it. I used to smoke, and quit that years ago. Then I found snus, but didn’t like it, and then I discovered snuff(nasal) and did like that. I later went back and retried snus, and I wish I never did, because I liked it then, and then I was open to try moist dip, chew and any oral tobacco, and I say if you are not a current regular user of oral tobacco, do not start, because once you start, it is very hard to stop. I’m on my second attempt now to quit oral tobacco after falling off the wagon.

I love a good dip and it does pack a wallop but I find it inconvenient to use unless im outdoors and have a drink of water handy so it is not my regular. I go through phases though and my current phase is pipe and snuff combined.

I use dip and chew as a treat for myself, . I’ve been tossing about getting more snus because I liked it so well. The harder I tried to quit, the more down on myself I became. So I figured everyone needs a reward in moderation, and that would be mine. Tom, you’re still a decent fellow in my book.

Thanks. I do find if I am not using oral tobacco, I do use the nasal snuff a lot more. Just had some kailesh snuff, and have no oral tobacco today at all. I do have an e-cig too, though I rarely puff on it. My main concern is gum health, my age, 43, and being diabetic, and having smoked most regularly for 20yrs, and was never taken to a dentist as a child, and should have had braces, I believe, my gum do not look like the horror photos you see online, but my gums are rather thin, and I am afraid of losing my teeth, but yeah, I did enjoy a good dip, chew, and snus.

I personally find it harder to quit oral tobacco than cigarettes, but that is just me. I had a much easier time getting rid of the smokes than I am having with chewing tobacco…then again coughing like a dying man all day is a big motivation.

I really want to get back into the snus. When my money is right I think I’ll make a big order.