Ok, the discussion title is a spin on another one on the same page, to amuse me. This is probably an unusual request and I’m sure people will be chortling at the back, but I’m a new snuff taker and a more-or-less non-smoker (occasional small cigarillos only ever) and my nicotine tolerance is seemingly very low! I’m taking nowhere near the standard “pea-size” chunk and often my head will spin in a not entirely nice way and I get slightly nauseous. I want to snuff regularly! SO… What snuffs (proper ones, not the glucose alternatives) am I likely to be able to take in reasonable quantities? A better question may be… which snuffs do you seasoned snuffers snuff that you find you need to take a lot of to get a buzz? I probably want those one Just to complicate matters, the snuffs I seem to love most are the dark ones (WoS Best Dark, Taxi Blue) and schmalzers along with SPs. Does dark and pungent automatically imply strong?

to answer your last question no.

poschls aren’t too strong, however they clog some of us.

Thanks @bob. Not tried a Poschl yet. Still new and not worked my way round to it! If the answer to my last question is no, can you recommend any strong banyard-y or pungent snuffs that may not blow my head off with nicotine?

I suggest a cup of coffee before you snuff.They balance each other. Keep on using snuff till you develop a tolerance to tobacco. My blood is brown so no tobacco snuff give’s me a buzz as you say. Currently I go through about 5 grams a day- toasts ,scotches and Indian whites. I also use tobacco orally and smoke a pipe most of my waking hours. You may want to try a schmalzler.

Drinking strong coffee right now, so we’ll see if this helps. @basement_shaman, is this your anecdotal evidence that caffeine cancels nicotine or is this a recognised interaction? Very interesting if it is. Oh and I have tried schmalzers (see above) and am in love with Bernard’s. I’ve ordered rather too many not realising they’re mostly variations on a theme, but oh what a theme! After British snuffs, it’s quite a change. Only been snuffing a few months but I can tell already I am going to be spending a lot of time with Bernard’s. I do even find those can make my head spin too in small quantities though. What a lightweight.

Without a doubt Poschl snuffs are the weakest, it wouldn’t suprise me to learn that there isn’t even any tobacco in them

@Polly Welcome to Snuffhouse! I don’t have much info on the snuffs with low nicotine, but as for me Taxi Red is my go to Barnyard choice, I get that from the Taxi Green as well, just not as much do to the menthol in it. Taxi Red is however known to be high nicotine, and if you overdo it , 2 pea size pinches in each nostril, you’ll probably get sick. You could take small pinches of it and as you are already familiar with Taxi Blue I think you’d really like it. I don’t get much of a buzz from any of the Toque snuffs I’ve had ( SP Extra, Vanilla, Clove and Camphor, Rose ) but I like them for their quality and amazing scent profiles. Of the Poschl snuffs I tried they seem to be similar in nicotine content to the Toque snuffs I mentioned. I’ve only ever overdone it with Taxi Red, and a few from the 6 Photo line and the reason being the scents couldn’t get in my nose fast or hard enough.

@Polly in regards to the name dark, it seems to me anything I’ve had with dark in the name tends to be from dark toasted tobacco. There is a campfire smell in Lavender Dark ( I think you’d like this as it has a “phenolic” profile mixed with a very unique Lavender component, don’t buy the tap box!) and Viking Dark is similar to Lavender Dark, but without the lavender. I really like the dark snuffs, they also seem to have a coarser grind and higher moisture content.

There actually was a low tobacco snuff not long ago, Zuka Zee, which was (I think) 1% tobacco. The rest was something like a glucose snuff, but neon green. At 1% it hardly seemed worth being there. It technically wasn’t tobacco free, yet had so little as to not make a difference. A 50% ratio would have made more sense. @Polly, I’m sure you could create your own blends if you want something not so strong. (As I can only think of “high nicotine” and “normal” snuffs, no low nic ones.) I’d recommend the de Kralingse non tobacco snuffs, as these are the best and quite unlike most other commercial non tobacco snuffs. They are mostly herbal blends. I’ve read some members mixing them with tobacco snuffs with pleasant results. Actually, it doesn’t take too long to build a tolerance to nicotine. The trick is not to go more than a day without or you have to start the queasy phase over again.

try small pinches. I remember my first 10g tin. It took 17 days to empty.

Drinking strong coffee right now, so we’ll see if this helps. @basement_shaman, is this your anecdotal evidence that caffeine cancels nicotine or is this a recognised interaction? Very interesting if it is. Oh and I have tried schmalzers (see above) and am in love with Bernard’s. I’ve ordered rather too many not realising they’re mostly variations on a theme, but oh what a theme! After British snuffs, it’s quite a change. Only been snuffing a few months but I can tell already I am going to be spending a lot of time with Bernard’s. I do even find those can make my head spin too in small quantities though. What a lightweight.

basement shaman is right. The man tends to know his stuff. Caffeine and nicotine not only interact as he’s mentioned. Nicotine also reduces the jitters from caffeine and there is also an increase in the pleasure response from both. And all that is documented. and more importantly nothing wrong with being a light weight.

Thanks all for your comments! @thorgrimnr, I actually love the pig-farm-next-door scent of my Taxi Blue, but if I took two pea-sized chunks of *that* I think I’d be in pieces never mind the Red. I really do seem to only be able to tolerate a little. I have got very into my Bernard schmalzers since I discovered them a fortnight ago, but they get too strong for me too (and that throat drip…). Maybe I will try the Poschls, although I’d be looking for that that deep plummy stewed scent I get from Bernards. Suggestions which Poschls I might get that from? Also Lavender Dark sounds *very* tempting. @Xander thanks for the info. I just bought two of my first Molens (=de Kralingse, right?) and I’m not madly taken by them, but it might be that I don’t like Macuba scent, whatever makes it up. It’s the first snuff I actually tried to like and had to blow my nose from after 10 mins. But if there are non-tobacco snuffs that aren’t menthol/mint and I could mix with real tobacco I’d welcome suggestions from anyone. @linguist, the rate I am taking it at the moment, I doubt I’ll ever finish a 5g tin! 17 days to finish a 10g tin seems to me fast I must have a very odd physiology, but maybe I should be pleased: I am thoroughly loving my new-found snuff and don’t need much to enjoy it I suppose @bob, still very interested in nicotine and caffeine cancelling if it’s true.

Lavender Dark is so good in my opinion, it actually get’s it’s own technique. I try my best to replicate what the schmalzler champs do and actually stuff it in, a pinch is not nearly enough, I need nose cake! Now I want to try Samuel Gawiths peppermint dark too.

Peppermint Dark is wonderful. Both It and Lavender Dark are on my to buy in bulk list.

@SnuffySnuff now I’m in trouble.

But if there are non-tobacco snuffs that aren’t menthol/mint and I could mix with real tobacco I’d welcome suggestions from anyone.

Thai snuffs are _very_ fruity and more-or-less tobacco free, would be a good mixer with a tobacco snuff base that you like. https://mistersnuff.com/catalog/thai-snuff-c-121.html

Best dark is light in nicotine, isn’t it? I forget if I take big pinches for the flavor or the nicotine in that one. Either way I don’t get too much of a buzz. It’s pretty rare I get a buzz from nicotine anyway though.

@polly they can take some getting used to. Anyway the Potpourri blends are both tobacco and menthol free. They are nice herbal mixtures.

@polly Some of the plainer Wilson’s of Sharrow snuff’s are pretty nic low IMO. I bought a buch of apple and blackcurrant on special and while i quite like it, it does seem very moderate on the nicotine front. Actually, last time i looked Mr Snuff still had the 5g tins for .79c. Very nice.

Thanks all this is very helpful. @Mouse those three Thai snuffs, the red and purple say they have tobacco and the yellow not? Are they fruity as in smell of real fruit or flowery-fruity or something? I never heard of Thai snuff! @TomStrasbourg, I *love* Best Dark and I get a strong buzz from it and can’t take too much! I guess I am super-sensitive. What’s in Best Dark anyway? I find it very earthy (yum) with a strong and complex set of scents over the top I find harder to identify than usually. Best guesses? @Xander which potpourri scents? They may be a bit too flowery for me… @BigNose yes I do find WoS easier to take than my beloved Taxi Blue and Bernards! Last night was all about McChrystal’s Stammheimer Hopfen and that went down fine (in much smaller than pea quantities!) and *gosh* did I enjoy it.

@polly, there is conflicting information about these. Mistersnuff sells the purple and yellow as tobacco-free on the club snuff website. I’ve tried to get the folks at the local Thai restaurant to translate the ingredients listed on the bottles but they don’t have enough English to do it, it seems. They smell like tropical fruits to me.

@polly the Dholakia herbal blend is very pleasant, hard to really define scent. complex and relaxing, but does have just a little menthol that is there but not in your face… Luck!!

@polly Best Dark is scented with bergamot. Bergamot is a citrus fruit also used in the making of Earl Grey tea.

@Polly they do have some flowers in them, but they’re really not as floral as floral snuffs http://www.snuifmolenswebshop.nl/Webwinkel-Category-506014/Tobacco-Free-Snuff.html

Thanks for all your responses! @TomStrasbourg that’s interesting, I didn’t guess it was Bergamot. I’m a huge fan of SP’s and have lots - why does Best Dark smell so different? I’m sure it’s a different kind of base tobacco, but is that all?

@polly a lot of SPs use other scents alongside bergamot. Best SP has rose and Tom Buck features lavender with the rose. I think Best Dark’s base tobacco probably has a good deal more to do with the difference. Plus the bergamot isn’t as prevalent as it is in most SPs.

Very interesting @TomStrasbourg thanks. You obviously have a fine nose I’d be fascinated to know about different SP components! I’ll post a new discussion to not pollute this one about SP, hoping you can find it and reply!

@polly I’ve got a nose that is somewhat trained over the years. Plus I’ve learned a lot from this forum.

try small pinches. I remember my first 10g tin. It took 17 days to empty.

If I tried small pinches, they would get lost

@Polly in regards to the name dark, it seems to me anything I’ve had with dark in the name tends to be from dark toasted tobacco. There is a campfire smell in Lavender Dark ( I think you’d like this as it has a “phenolic” profile mixed with a very unique Lavender component, don’t buy the tap box!) and Viking Dark is similar to Lavender Dark, but without the lavender. I really like the dark snuffs, they also seem to have a coarser grind and higher moisture content.

Yes I would say the dark rappee like snuffs from SG have a low nicotine content. From what I understand the long fermentation of SG black rappee make for a low nicotine level, or at least it seems low to me. Also the grind is coarse so the nicotine is released more slowly

That’s really funny @tboyer, SG snuffs like KB hit me pretty hard at times. It’s a different hit though, more like the buzz you get from snus or moist snuff than the kick you get from a finer, lighter snuff. Also those heavily fermented snuffs always give me very odd dreams which I enjoy thoroughly. A lot of the F&T snuffs aren’t powerhouses in the nicotine department. Santo Domingo is a work of art but I don’t recall it being too strong.

A lot of the F&T snuffs aren’t powerhouses in the nicotine department. Santo Domingo is a work of art but I don’t recall it being too strong.

I agree completely