O.K., I’m a newbie to snuff and to this forum, so please forgive me asking all these basic questions. I keep hearing about ‘scotches’. When I’ve looked through the lists of snuffs on snuff vending sites, I’ve never seen the word scotch in any title. So for this snuff rookie, could you good and patient snuffers please explain what makes a scotch a scotch and maybe give me a few examples so I can give them a go. Thanks in advance!
finer minds than mine will be able to inform on this topic better … but basically i feel that all US snuffs are scotches … some are sweetened some have menthol, etc. but the best ones are (purely opinion) square plain, rooster, bruton, the more “plain ones” … others such as honey bee, red seal etc are quite sweet, graham cracker sweet … but they are all fine and powdery, gun powder, fire pit or smokey smelling … will hurt your eyeball when sniffed … i have to say, if you are struggling with toasts, you may want to shy away from scotches.
scotch is a shortened version of ‘scorched’ meaning the chopped tobacco leaves are roasted a bit longer.
I don’t know of any that have menthol, but just about any American snuff you can find in the supermarket or anywhere else will probably be a scotch or a sweet scotch. They are more popular as dip in the southern US and are not beginner friendly as snuff because they are very fine and dry,but there are many different takes on the genre, especially when you get into sweet scotches. They pretty much all come in 30g cans or bigger, but because of their fine, dry, and nicotine high nature that 30g can will last a good while longer than a 30g can of anything else would with regular use.
i was thinking Dean Swift had some menthols … i may be wrong … it’s been quite a while since i have ordered any scotches. as you said, TomStrasbourg, they last forrrrrrevvvvverrrrrr … and maybe dean swift isn’t all scotch like, i just thought, perusing mrsnuff, that everything in the US category at the time really fell into that scorched/scotch category …
dean swift is not scotch.
yeah, i never ordered any Dean Swift … nothing sounded appealing to me. so now i know, dean swift is not scotch!
I may be wrong here, but I don’t even think Dean Swift, Buzz or FUBAR are even made in America…
Certainly not FUBAR or Buzz … Dean Smith might be one of them as well. I think you are right.
I hope I haven’t caused any problems here!
Dean swift aside from a few selections is basically forgetable and over priced. Though black watch is one of a kind.
Yeah I wasn’t counting contract brands like fubar, dean swift, or rockit although rockit naked isn’t unlike a scotch. Should have mentioned that.
you said “…rockit naked…” yeah, that’s going in the out of context thread. not only is it funny, but it sounds like a good policy in general.
@Heluvagi you certainly have not created any problems. There is always an ongoing ‘discussion’ one way or another to clarify any number of things. I for one think you raised a good point.
agree with @stogie … no problems that i see … lots of clarifications(for me) and good information. that’s what i love about this forum.
@Heluvagi ,Just sweep some dust up in your Grand moms attic and there you have an american scotch. It is that enjoyable . I could be wrong. I live in the north ;so what I may had tried could had been as old as I am.
“Scotch” is not derived from “scorched” thats a bit of urban legend 'round here. Its origin is with the Garrett family who emigrated to America from Scotland in the 1700s, bringing their knowlege of scottish snuff making with them, which is a cousin to the Irish toasts. Remeber, snufftaking was popular in the Not England parts of the British isles about a century before the English really took to it, and those other parts had a lot in common with each other. Nowadays Samuel Gawith makes a couple of things labled as Scotch, but these have another history, and are not related to the fine dry Scotch. All Scotch style snuffs are made in the US by three companies (until very recently there was a fourth). About 2/3 of them are sweetened. None are mentholated. A few of the sweetened ones have some variance in flavoring (Honey, Peach, Wild Cherry) but not much. There are American made snuffs that are not Scotches by these three companies: Maccoboy and Checkerberry, but both are hard to find. There are American made snuffs by other small companies that are not Scotches like Dark Horse, and historically there have been others, but in recent years most have been short lived. Dean Swift is not scotch. Once upon a time it was sold in the US by a small company, but it was contract made for them by Wilsons of Sharrow in the UK. It died a few years ago. Its recently been revived by Wilsons directly, and not available OTC in the US anymore. The other things in the Mr. Snuff US category, are also contract made for him and are not scotches.
Thank you Xander!
So Xander, just to clarify, despite scotches not being ‘scorched’ tobacco, they are, by definition, toasted?
Something like that. They are clearly cooked in some way. Roasted, toasted, smoked, I’m not sure of the nuts and bolts of it.