Not Sure if this should be OT or not…but…i’ll move it if the mods think yes I’ve been reading the pact-act-up-again thread….This is a follow-on question from that Just out of curiosity. Let’s just say for one moment, they did ban ALL tobacco products. Probably a lot of people on this forum don’t do coke or other class A drugs because it illegal. So…what would you do about tobacco? …Would you except it and say “our government knows what’s best for our health” Or …would you get a life-time stock, money permitting and say “**** you” ?

Well, I’d have enough to last me 4 lifetimes!

yeah i bet

Personally i’d be in favour of a solution along the lines of that used during the French revolution.

I would quickly find a new career path…as a tobacco smuggler. That or leave the country ASAP

@tom…I bet…how I’d love to be in your shoes!

I’ll go to the nearest school and buy snuff from the local drugs dealer! Banning something is NOT the way to stop people doing it. They just find a new way to have it. In the past alcohol was banned in some countries and so what? People who drink continued drinking even more than before. And that lasted long enough politicians to realize that thay are doing a BIG favor to the black market. FUNNY! I’m taking a big pinch for that!

I’d continue to use it. Classes (or schedules as they are here, Schedule I equating to Class A, Schedula III to Class C, etc) have never stopped me before if something interested me enough. Personally, I think in some ways it might be a good thing healthwise for people. I mean, you don’t see too many stoners smoking 20-40 joints a day simply because you couldn’t afford it consistently, unless you were loaded. So people would cut back and it might have some health benefits for us. But, I don’t relish paying $20 a gram for tobacco, nor do I like the idea of having to go to court and saying “Yes, I’m a snuser and a snuffer. Yep, I know it’s illegal. Nope, don’t care, without my nicotine, I’d have ripped your bloody head off five minutes ago you pretentious loon.” I think the government will try to seriously limit tobacco use, but they’d be dumb to ban it totally. First, they’d lose all the revenue from taxes, which are enormous sums of cash. I mean, the war on drugs here is already costly and ineffective. To put it in perspective, in the four semesters I spent at university in Maine, I knew 17 dealers just on campus. Applying national rates of usage to the school, that’s one dealer for every 55 smokers, just on a campus in a backwoods town in Maine. If something that is punished more severely than cocaine in the US can be that common on a tiny school campus (granted, I believe more people use it in Maine than in the US on average, and they only press criminal charges if you’re caught with more than 1.25 ounces) in the middle of nowhere, imagine how much of a hard time they would have stopping tobacco. I know it’s more of a hypothetical question, but I just wanted to point out how impractical it would be. It can also be stored for much longer lengths of time than other drugs, without decrease in potency if properly maintained, and in many cases can increase in value over time. If enforced, it would probably build up a prison population that simply couldn’t be supported by tax paying citizens who were working and didn’t use tobacco. Hell, they banned Cuban tobacco, but that doesn’t mean I can’t get either Cuban snus or Cuban cigars delivered by the unwitting postal workers right to my door. They could theoretically ban tobacco, but I feel like lobbyist would challenge the constitutionality of such a ban, giving me more time to build up my already formidable horde. I could easily stock up for the next four years or so if I invested the money in it, and see where things went from there, but I’m not too concerned.

When I was a boy they had prohibition where I lived. You could call any cab driver and have a bottle delivered to your door. My first date (I was a teenager), we went to the bootlegger and bought a bottle of scotch. I thought drinking half a fifth and fondling each other was what a date was all about. Tobacco in some form will be available, but the quality and selection would suffer. Some of the booze from back in those days was not at all good for you. I heard of people going blind or getting very sick. No telling what they would cut tobacco with. Oh, and the prices would go up.

Never happen…there’s too much money passing hands If it did, I would just switch to using something legal, like medical reefer.

There is a fellow near where I live, who’s dad was a bootlegger in the prohibition era. He learned his fathers recipies and methods and still distills his own spirits. A 5 minute drive along the Juniata River and $10 will get you a mason jar full of stuff that will hurt you in ways you never even imagined!! I think the same thing would happen if tobacco were banned. Bootlegging is almost as much of an American tradition when were are prohibited something as tobacco istelf is!

Sniff-easies, high load capacity super fast sleeper cars, M1-A1’s, and gentlemen in suits.

I’d join any local Gestapo in order to infiltrate the evil tobacco gangs and corrupt. And unlike in movies, the bad guys never get caught. Win-win situation.

Considering the amounts of tax dollars collected, the premise of a total ban is very hard to imagine. The direction my country appears to be going, tax and spend more than collected so tax again, I think supports that idea. Touch wood. If the US were to see a total ban, then yes, I’d be a criminal. No qualms about that!

BBC said on yesterdays news that someone, I think Norway is taking steps to ban all tobacco.

What are the chances that you would actually have some snuff with you while ending up on a deserted island?

@Nacham If any place does do it, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Norway first! @juxtaposer Desert Island Snuff: I think you’re found a name for a new snuff

This is how McCarthy almost got away with it.

Heck, if I’m gonna end up on a desert island, might as well mix in a little yopo and go crazeeeee…

Bhutan tried to ban tobacco back in 2004. They gave up because it created a black market. Quelle surprise !

ever hear of “Going Postal”?

@ukiceman That would be a misnomer.

Well banning anything - from booze to drugs - achieves precisely nothing so you need have no fear that you wouldn’t be able to get snuff anymore - it would just cost more. I expect there are people who would like it banned just to give it a frisson of danger… I could buy any drug I wanted in a few minutes (I emphasise that I don’t, I just know the process) snuff would just fall in with a whole bunch of others.

I hope that if anything like that happened here, I would hope I took the opportunity to get rich quick! There is already so much tobacco smuggling going on in the UK as the tax is so high. When I spent a couple of years working in factories went the entire time without ever buying any tobacco in a shop. People brought over a load from France, Belgium or Spain and managed to flog it for half the price it is here. My favourite was the burger van on an industrial estate, it went something like “Do you have any spare tobacco?”, and she would go “Well I think I have a spare pack of my own, I can sell it to you if you are desperate”, every week! It is so widespread that if they lowered the tax, they would probably collect more. The thought of capitalising for a couple of years on the unbelievably lucrative black market that a tobacco ban would create makes my mouth water, and is exactly why, as snuffster says, banning it is absolutely pointless.

it’d be time for a tobacco party. a revolution. it’s ok to outlaw crimes to but to outlaw a human beings innocent pleasure? naw, it’d be time for violence and blood in the streets.

There’s no way they’d do that - far too much money would be lost, but if they did, I probably have enough snuff to last me a couple of decades.

I hear you cstokes. The whole discussion is ludicrous and leads to paranoia. When I was a teenager it was easier for me to get marijuana than it was to get alcohol. A lot easier. I think you know which one was the legal drug and which one wasn’t. Regulation coupled with education is always more effective than prohibition.

I got an email from the Newport cigarette people yesterday and they said that in the US, the FDA is trying to ban menthol cigarettes. They wanted me to send the FDA comments about why they shouldn’t ban them. I don’t think I will comment because I do not have a nice way of saying to them why they shouldn’t as it is completely ridiculous to ban menthol cigarettes or any other type of tobacco. It’s kind of like the New York NY limit on how much soda you can buy that they tried a while back, very infringent on people’s civil and human rights imo, lol. My point is, if this ban goes through, it does not look good for snuff or any tobacco for that matter in the US in the future because i think they are testing this out to get a response from the people to try and judge what might happen if they banned all tobacco in the US because you know the government would love to do something like that for whatever ridiculous reason, maybe it’s just to feel like they have absolute powa lol. Anyway, you guys maybe should send your comments to the FDA if you can politely tell them why they shouldn’t ban any tobacco products just be sure NOT to mention snuff because it’s still a little known thing.

If they banned all tobacco products I’d be here every day hoping for good news about Rederick’s experiments with tomato leaf snuff!

No worries here,already have a stash put away big enough to last the rest of my life…and maybe a couple lives.

I’d grow my own in my back yard. I doubt tobacco would ever be banned the same way marijuana is it’d probably be a misdemeanor to grow it and nobody would know what it was.

I think I’d survive with my “cellar” contents. When tobacco is outlawed only outlaws will have tobacco

Who would pay all the sin tax they collect? No tobacco is a money maker for the tax man. But the invisible government pulls the string and if they want to ban something all the votes wouldn’t change a thing.

I would stock up for the foreseeable future. Good thing about snuff is it would be the cheapest tobacco product to stock up on. I was also look into growing and making my own. I highly doubt they’d ever do that though. They’d lose too much on taxes to even make it worth it.

I read that New Zealand will ban cigarettes in 2020 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c\\_id=1&objectid=10622940 I can see it happening in the EU as well with the shower of do-gooders and loonies we have ‘representing us’ in Brussels.

The day they ban tobacco is the day our leaders meet our old friend La Guillotine

The day they ban tobacco is the day our leaders meet our old friend La Guillotine

I like where you are going with that one!

The day they ban tobacco is the day our leaders meet our old friend La Guillotine

Problem is, that the majority of the people is just as ignorant. They don’t care about personal freedom. Unless the EU tries to ban licorice pipes… Denmark was prepared to leave the Union if the ban passed

Please no comments that encourage paranoia in others. The OP was out of line. As to the post that reopened this thread, there has been discussion of a menthol cigarette ban for quite some time ever since it was shown that menthol cigarettes are more addictive, though not more harmful. Anyway thats another topic altogether, and not really related to snuff. Topic now closed.