I’m thinking of ordering a couple of scotches on my next purchase, but I’ve heard so much negative about the difficulty in taking them. How do they compare to something like Toque Natural Toast or Burbon? I can take those with relative ease. I just don’t want to order something that won’t be enjoyable because they are ridiculously hard to use.

I haven’t really found anything that compares with an American Scotch. Could be because it was originally intended to be a dentifrice.

@howdydave that’s incorrect. It has only been modifed to that state due to an abberration in culture. Check the recent thread “When is a scotch a scotch and why?”

Dogwalla there really isn’t anything that directly compares to a scotch so I would read some of the reviews at snuffreviews.com and find one that seems pretty mild and easy to take (as far as american scotches go) and get that one and then go from there. Also I believe the smallest size that American Scotches come in is 1.5 ounce tubes, so there will be plenty of snuff the question just remains of whether or not you will like it.

Though I haven’t tried it myself, Star Scotch (what I get from the reviews) seems to be about the mildest, toast-like of the American scotches. Dental (which I currently have) is also quite mild next to those I have tried. As for a comparison between Toque Toast (in this case, Lime Toast) and scotches, They seem pretty even in the difficulty in the sniff. The scotches are just much rougher in flavor.

i wonder… you ask for a comparsion between stuff like Toque and Burton to scotches ? mh, i would say that Burton is actually a scotch. so, you did already take one.

I’m pretty sure he meant Toque Bourbon, not Bruton.

WHY HASN"T anyone compared a scotch to HDT??? I think a scotch is ALOT like High Dry Toast. Just not toasted. Is that good enough description? Think VERY FINE AND DRY but NOT TOASTED.

Funnily enough I find scotches easier to take than toasts. Has always been the way for me although i don’t have any difficulty with toasts except hdt can have me coughing. I was enjoying bruton ling before I could handle a hdt.

@oscarwabbit seriously? Thats odd. Find them SO CLOSE to eachother in likeness! Who knows…

@transistor yeah it’s true. I think the toasting process makes the snuff more of an irritant than non-toasted scotches. Just guessing but I’ve never had a problem with scotches whereas it took a good 6 months before I could do toasts without inducing coughing fits. We’re all different.

@oscarwabbit Oh I gotcha. But wouldn’t you agree that when it comes to touch and scent, and the qualities of both (grind, moisture, etc.) come across as very much alike?

I had the same problem, I wanted a scotch but didnt want to dislike it from not being able to use it so I bought Starr. Now I wish I would have bought a different one.

scotches were what I started my snuff journey on. Some people say there not good for beginners, what with the dusty nature of them, but hey just try it everyone is different. For me they were no problem. Of course my first few pinches made me sneeze my head off, but that will happen to you no matter what snuff you start out with. Your nose takes a while to get use to foreign particles being in there.

Awesome information. And, with Mr. Snuff’s post today, I’ll put together an order for the weekend. I’m interested in trying Bruton’s and some others so I’m sure it will be a fun experience. if I had unlimited funds I’d ask for a ‘one of each’ bundle.

WE Garrett’s Scotch was my first snuff. I still use it reguarly. I just went to the store and bought what they had, went to the car and sniffed a pinch. I had no clue what I was doing, but I enjoyed it.

Too much fuss is made of Bruton. Yeah its probably the strongest, but its so acrid and sour. There are far better ones available.

I agree with Xander Bruton isn’t all that great I take occasional pinches of it here and there but my new favorite American Scotch is Dental and it the nicotine hits me more with Dental than Bruton but this is probably because Dental is easier to take than Bruton. Try them and see what works for you.

@ourlastdefeat Dental is a soild mild scotch. Try Tops Mild also; I find them similar.

Bruton’s beauty is in it’s raw power and simplicity.

since I live in the usa, most of what we here in the midwest, (missouri, st. joseph ) is GARRETT sweet or plain. I gotta admit ILOVE THE SWEET!!!. the plain is smokey and it hits your sinus like a sledgehammer!!! I aint kidding! the plain will knock your socks off.tHINK matthew quigley on steroids . BURNS LIKE A BUGGER…i MEAN IT…Like snorti ng habanaro PEPPER I mean it!!!..I am an american, but I gotta admit. USA snuffs are as OKEY DOKEY…BUT, they are rough. by that I mean really hard to whiff.Unless you are a rough hombre…LEAVE EM BE…

DONT MEAN TO BE A BITCH, but unless you are one tough bugger. Save your money and buy whatever you love. USA scotches are rough and thru mr snuf f among others they are expensive unless you live in the USA. and buy locally. Not kicking MR SNUFF, love em. But USA scotches are like whiffing cayenne pepper. buy something else

Noses vary @graybeard19 There isn’t a Scotch I dislike and I dont find them rough at all nor consider myself a tough hombre

@graybeard19 just takes practice. I love my scotches, and I do have a soft spot for Garrett since they began here in northern Delaware, just about 5 miles from where I live. They are also the oldest and the model on which American scotches are based. Also its the most widely available snuff in the US. Having said all of that, most of them bear some measure of smokeyness, and they all -even the sweets, have such a fine character that it will burn. Unless, that is, you have gotten the practice down to a technique. Once you do, snuffing a scotch can be quite delightful and painless. I must say though, that Square, Three Thistle and Rooster have very distinctive character. I also quite enjoy Superior, Tops and Dental. Of course Starr has made a name for itself just by being so damn plain, but strong all the same. I encourage all memebers who are interested in these snuffs to post requests on the trades thread for specific snuffs. (All US snuffs names should be up to date in the FAQ if you need the reference. If you do know some I don’t have in there, please PM me to get the database accurate.) Many US members have access to variety and can help fellow snufftakers to broaden their horizons. We have established the trades thread as an “Announcement” on this site becuase we want to encourage the camraderie it creates as well as the abiltiy to share otherwise unobtainable snuffs through informal channels. This is not to undersell MrSnuff, as he has a great deal of red tape to deal with. I’m sure Dave there only carries them as a service to the snuff community who have no access to these via formal channels. He’s making little to no profit on those, and would probably rather not deal with them except for the fact that he likes us.

@Xander since you live in the U.S have you tried the Dental Plain Scotch? It’s a bit like a milder version of bruton but with it’s own character, on the tube it says that it can’t be sold outside of the united states and I haven’t seen it on Mr. Snuff or on snuffreviews.com so I don’t know if anyone has heard of it abroad.

W. E. Garrett has the same restriction printed on the label (for some unfathomable reason). I have seen Dental offered on Mr. Snuff.com, it is currently out of stock (just checked). If it gets restocked, it is listed under the Conwood heading in the American Snuffs section.

@Ourlastdeafeat, Yes I have some here. I like it. A nice not too strong-not too weak, not too smokey-not too plain flavor. Its a good medium mild Scotch and close to Tops and Ralph’s, though Ralph’s is less enjoyable than both. I think I’ve tried all the scotches and determined my favorites. In this mild class, either Dental or Tops will suit me as a permanent representative. The labeling as you quote has only appeared in the last year and is due to tax regulations. Basically its saying the tax on that unit has been paid for the jurisdiction in which it was sold. When I smoked cigarettes but bought them on ships outside of US waters they always stated “for sale only outside the US.” These were essentially in a separate tax jurisdiction. I understand military bases have the same. Since there is such a small demand for such a product, I doubt that it is exported through any formal channels. Anyway, when Mr. Snuff and the much missed Nicotine Rush were selling from the US, and prior to the regrettable language of the PACT legislation, I think a fair number of our overseas compatriots had a chance to sample the various US offerings, including Dental. For now, we must rely on our own ingenuity to share such pleasures. We owe it to them really.

I enjoy the icepick to the back of the head hit from Garrett plain when taking a big sniff. It wakes me up when I am fighting the 4am low on night shift waiting for my 2nd wind to kick in.

I’am waiting till I see an american snuff in a shop before I buy.

I went out and picked up a tin of Garrett plain, I gotta admit I was taking way too big of a pinch before. Now I tried it with better results. Not too bad, still prefer the sweet, but I can see where this is a good one to have about…guess this old dog can learn new tricks.

If you can take the Toque toasts without a problem, you’ll do alright with American scotches, I would think. We generally try to warn newbies to steer clear of them, but not all newbies listen. (Myself included – the first snuffs I ever bought were Garrett Sweet and Red Seal.) Just take small pinches at first, and be prepared for an eye-watering burn, and perhaps a coughing fit, if you sniff too deeply. You’ll do OK.