Have been using an ecig for some days. Spent most of my life at 3 packs a day. the eliquid I have is the strongest: 24 per milliliter. No good at all. It’s the other alkaloids that do the trick. am currently soaking wintergreen dip in veg. glycerine and when more vg arrives will try the same with snuff. The cigarette (e) that tropical bob mentions in his #4 video is no longer available. So will soak snuff packs as per another youtube video

Also look into whole tobacco alkaloid e-liquids which have become very popular in the vaping community.

@Roderick that sounds interesting. Can you post a link or two for sites that stock or explain them?

+1 on the WTA ejuices. Check out http://www.aromaejuice.com

I had added some wintergreen “dip” to vegetable glycerine about 8 days ago. too lazy to filter but drew some off and added 50/50 to nicotine ejuice. It’s great. As good as a cigarette. Have some snuss packs soaking now and will try it with snuff soon the addition of tobacco made all the difference.

The cigo does look like a lot of hassle for seven puffs. As you say, early days but it also looks as though the atomiser charred i.e. burned the tobacco so essentially it’s a bad type of cigarette/cigar/pipe then? Definite ban or mega tax.

Anyone thinking of trying vaper then please come and join us on http://ukvapers.org/ What puts some people off is cheap e-cigs that don’t vaper well and have a short battery life but find the right equipment for you and the right e-liquid and its great. I use snuff all day long and when i am out but evenings in front of the TV i have 3 e-pipes my favorite is a handmade e-pipe converted Peterson Highlander and it is so so relaxing. It is no different to snuff in that you need to find what suits you i now order my snuff by the half pound but had to try many small tins to find my favorite. Same with vaper you need to find what your comfortable with with me it is an e-pipe and then the right e-liquid and there are lots about. For me snuff and vaper go hand in hand but thats me

thank you pr luk. just joined your forum and posted if anyone knows an ecig that will take a glycerine moistened snus pack

this is the only one I know off bit spendy thou the ploom itself looks nifty http://www.ploom.com/

slightly on-topic: Big Tobacco bets a packet on e-cigarettes Read more >> http://link.ft.com/r/M2ZOXX/YGWJ45/P9BEL/QNSQNM/XBIEU1/KI/t?a1=2013&a2=6&a3=7

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lorrilard bought the blu e cig brand a while back

Big Tobacco bets a packet on e-cigarettes By Shannon Bond in New York Electronic cigarette©Getty Big Tobacco in the US is raising its bet on the growth of electronic cigarettes to offset the decline of traditional smoking with Reynolds American, the maker of Camel and Pall Mall launching its first smokeless, battery-powered device. Reynolds, the second-biggest US tobacco company by market share, has hailed e-smoking as a “game-changer” for the industry, with chief executive Dan Delen on Thursday calling the launch a “fantastic business opportunity”. More On this story * Sales of e-cigarettes continue to soar * Big tobacco push for cigarette alternatives * Bloomberg takes aim at cigarette displays * Advert for e-cigarettes to be shown on TV On this topic * US investigates robotic surgical devices * US regulator approves first bionic eye * Lawmakers demand data on energy drinks * FDA examines pain pill formula regulation IN Tobacco * Japan adopts more cordial investor scene * Imperial profits fall as smokers cut back * BAT lifts prices to offset slowing sales * Smokers turning more to illicit tobacco Reynolds’ move comes as the industry steps up its investment in alternatives to traditional cigarettes. Marlboro-maker Altria, the biggest US manufacturer with about half of the US’s market share, plans to launch its own e-cigarette this year. Lorillard was the first big manufacturer to enter the US electronic market last year with the acquisition of Blu Ecigs for $135m. Goldman Sachs estimated that the electronic cigarette sector generated sales of about $300m in 2012 while analysts predict that revenues will reach $1bn in the next few years – a fraction of the $90bn US cigarette market but one of the few areas where sales are growing. Smoking rates in the US have been falling for years due to higher taxes, smoking bans in public places and health concerns. With traditional cigarette sales dropping an average 3 per cent a year, according to executives and analysts, the industry has come to view e-cigarettes as an opportunity to hold on to customers. E-cigarette users inhale a nicotine-laced vapour, replicating the experience of smoking without the smoke and carcinogens that are released through combustion. This means that they can be consumed indoors . Mr Delen said e-cigarettes were a category where Reynolds hoped “expanding growth [would] mitigate some of the volumetric decline” in traditional smoking. The US market is highly fragmented with about 300 companies selling Chinese-made e-cigarettes to American consumers, mainly over the internet, said Ray Story, chief executive of the Tobacco Vapor Electronic Cigarette Association, an industry group. He added that it was a simple process for the large manufacturers to enter the market, as “they have distribution points already set up”. Reynolds said that it would market its device, called Vuse, to existing smokers. Mr Delen said about 30 per cent of US smokers had tried e-cigarettes in the past six months, but few had made the permanent switch. Vuse will be sold in a similar way to razors and blades, with disposable cartridges that click on to a long, silver battery-powered unit. Mr Delen acknowledged that the electronic market faced an uncertain regulatory environment. The US Food and Drug Administration has said it plans to regulate e-cigarettes, but has yet to propose formal rules. “We look forward to interacting with the FDA as they begin to promulgate regulations,” Mr Delen said. “We as a company are in a great position relative to any regulation.”

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The cigo won’t take off IMO. Too much hassle when you can vape e liquid a lot easier. It’s just like smoking without a lighter, but all that fuss and messing about for 7 puffs? Not worth it. Stefan

The cigo won’t take off IMO. Too much hassle when you can vape e liquid a lot easier. It’s just like smoking without a lighter, but all that fuss and messing about for 7 puffs? Not worth it. Stefan

Sounds like you have tried poor quality e-cigs i have one that ok is as big as a cigar but will last all day in use i also have a pipe that will last all day with no problem. I use and love my snuff when i am out but evenings and relaxing in house i vape and love that too. That is why i joined the vaping forum to get to know what to buy without wasting my money and to know that i could if needed vape all day without changing the battery. Peter

@pr1uk on the contrary I do use e cigs regularly and own a couple of high end mods. I just think the product in the video above is a waste of time. Stefan

@pr1uk on the contrary I do use e cigs regularly and own a couple of high end mods. I just think the product in the video above is a waste of time. Stefan

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I heard something on the news this morning about ecigs being withdrawn from sale in the UK until they are “properly checked and accredited”. Do they also mean taxed?

@I_snuff_therefore___ , it’s all to do with regulation apparently. In fact, it’s just been confirmed… http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22870301

Looks from that article that it’s green light for ecigs. The health reason makes sense but it surely will attract new users who never smoked previously. Apparently kids in schools are using them. Still, better than smoking. I actually think cigarette makers have doomed themselves through greed by making the smokes so addictive to capture customers and have them continually smoking so that many realised they had to quit.

I have a Vapor NO2 vaporizer that can be used for a variety of aromatherapy purposes. I’ve tried it with tobacco. Yeah, you get a nicotine hit, but I’d much rather have a pinch of snuff or a pipe or snuss. Seems like there are better ways to take nicotine.

The makers of Marlboro (Altria??) on the e cig bandwagon as well latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-altria-electronic-cigarette-20130611,0,5087680.story I think the Ciggo will probably be more popular with uh…“herb” enthusiasts.

Inspired, I have now a white Rhino Trifecta vaporizer. It came with two bowls for vaping stuff and a liquid/oil tank attachment all with their own coils. I have really enjoyed it for the last few weeks. Thanks guys and gals!

I’m now finding after a week that the novelty of my eGo is wearing off. It’s starting to seem like I might as well chew nicotine gum. I think it’s the fact that it is only vapour nicotine and nothing else nice that comes in real tobacco such as snuff or the little cigars which I went and bought more of. Currently I am searching for e-liquids made from actual tobacco instead of industrial nicotine but not sure there are any and if that is the case then I have to wonder why there are not? I don’t mind a liquid form and the eGo does vapour well but it’s all a bit to lab clinical I am now finding and it does not for me produce a similar satisfaction to real tobacco. Not even similar really so unless I discover some tobacco based liquid I probably will eventually discard my eGo’s. Just discovered the @Juxtaposer post about whole tobacco alkaloid e-liquids. Think those might be what I’m after? Seem rare though with only Aroma so far involved? http://www.ecigadvanced.com/forums/aroma-ejuice-f60/whole-tobacco-alkaloids-wta-faq-s-t4742.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uluww7nzYNM

fifth day with egoce5 and liquid 18mg fifth day without snuff my nose is quite better hope laryngologist would say the same

Congrats @ Viertel. I’m now finding that I’m smoking through the cigars I bought about a 1/3rd as quickly as I normally would and I’m not getting the huge craving for them as I used to so maybe this ecig is actually helping (when I don’t drink alcohol) although I still only use it on and off while mainly using snuff and it is giving my nose a little rest from snuff also. It’s almost as if I had cravings for cigar smoke when I did not have any cigars around and now that I have some and I know they are there if I want one then I’m not so bothered about them and before the eGo this was never the case. This is definitely a new situation and I hope the effect continues. Maybe I don’t need these WTA’s liquids after all but I’d still like to try them. I think it’s the envolvemnt of any alcohol which increases the smoking desire but since I don’t often take alcohol this should not be to problematic but I think with wine or such the eGo effect does diminish.

… I think it’s the envolvemnt of any alcohol which increases the smoking desire but since I don’t often take alcohol this should not be to problematic but I think with wine or such the eGo effect does diminish.

The effects of alcohol, I wouldn’t actually tend to think it increases desire to smoke or diminishes the effect of the eGo - but rather just reduces self discipline when it comes to sticking to a plan to reduce smoking.

Perhaps but for me the ecig just didn’t have the same satisfaction as smoking when drinking alcohol. Seemed to clean or something. I also noticed being a bit stressed when getting my Solar PV installed last Friday (but they did a really great job) and the ecig didn’t come up to scratch in calming then either ( I should have had some cigars on standby ) and the wafting smoke from one of the installers cigarettes seemed to smell really great and I normally don’t smoke cigarettes or like the taste/smell of them any longer since moving away from them some years ago. Having said all that I’m happily vaping this morning. More to learn about it I think.

Over the past weeks I’ve successfully turned snus, dip and snuff into whole alkaloid eliquid which I am now vaping and have been for weeks. Waiting for another piece of apparatus which I believe will leave no waste at all (add $10 to total cost). Took a few too many dollars to find the right ecig components (the site I ordered my initial components from sent me some defective and out of date parts). now I can build 2 ecigs for $50. Tropical Bob’s video was inspirational, but not effective. I believe it can be done on a small commercial scale (far more efficient than what I’ve done) for less than $125 in used equipment plus of course, the ingredients. Outside of the ecigs and components I adapted standard kitchen items for the job. Of course you do get the flavor of what you use (used wintergreen dip, frost snus and chetak and 6 photo # 66 in combination: the 3 in separate containers). with a bit of a knowledge of chemistry you can make almost any flavor you want. Using standard size snus packs is the best way plus any additional flavorings. I am now waiting for some peppermint. once I had the right ecig build and technique for use figured out it is almost as satisfying as a real cigarette and, of course, I continue my use of snuff. they really compliment each other well.

PS almost no time or effort (took about an hour over the course of 2 days) and maybe 10% of the cost of whole alkaloid eliquids. Plus if you trust the suppliers of tobacco you know exactly what you will get. Works on pipe tobacco too. More than a 3 month supply cost about $6-8 (if I’m right about my “next” step the cost will drop appreciably.

Sounds great @asieg. I read a whole lot about vapers worrying about health dangers of WTA and many of them saying they don’t get any effect from WTA anyhow? and are ok with current juices as long as they suck continually on them until they are nausious but I’m in the other camp. Something is definitely missing which to me makes vaping with only the nicotine which is not very noticable seem almost just silly. I’m still using my eGo’s some and I’m off the cigars again for now but that’s basically probably down to no spare cash. Being poor can actually be good for your health as I can’t afford any alcohol either which for me makes it easier to not smoke. I’m intrigued as to your process and set up. When’s the video comming out? Seems like it would be possible to get a large tank and just bung a snuss (uk illegal?) into it along with some e juice. Could I somehow add snuff tobacco to my e juice in some manner that would work well for vaping? Something really fine like Dolakia White that might vape easilly or maybe soak some juice in some Mull of Oa and then filter it out and vape the Oa flavoured juice. Gotta be the way to go with vaping. I hope eventually the pro’s sort it out and obtain a proper pleasurable experience akin to smoking or snuff or snuss or whatever. At the moment what they are selling is a bit like silly pretend smoking when surely it could be so much more and still not be as damaging as smoking. If governments etc really cared about people’s health instead of big pharma etc then here’s something massive they could be looking into and if they really wanted to, have it sorted very quickly but they’d rather screw the place up with GM or something so that they can drown everything in pesticides. Probably going to GM tobacco soon and f***k it up as well if they haven’t already? Time to start experimenting. I think I’ll try some Toque Quit in my Golden Virginia juice. See if it makes any difference at all. If you can give me some tips then please do. Just tried it. Seems better already. More of a hit and flavour and I only have a little in there at the moment but seems good. Doesn’t look as pretty like a childs sweety now as the normal juice but frankly I care not. Tried some more added. Definitely getting a lot more of a buzz but still not a smokes worth I don’t think but definite improvement. I’m surprised at just how east that was. Probably going to do that to all my juices now. Actually I’m pretty amazed .This is definitely closer to satisfaction. Buzz buzz. :bz All I’m wondering now is how much snuff I can saturate the juice with and still get it working and as luck would have it the juice seems to become runnier when I add the snuff so I expect I can get quite a lot in there probably 50/50 at least. Definitely getting a good buzz. Tried the other eGo with normal juice and the difference is very great. Anyone want more from their vaping has really got to try this. Amazing. Can’t stop laughing at the buzz. Brilliant! Just remembered I’ve got some Dolakia Black that I didn’t know what to do with, well now that’s sorted. I’d love to add some F&T Old Paris to my French Pipe juice but the Paris might be to coarse. I think I’ve found a new hobby!!!

Ok another update. Been trying this snuff / ejuice mix all day and a problem I am discovering is that it seems to have gone stale very quickly. Seemed completely fine initially but now it’s rather like I imagine licking an ashtray would be, well thats how the aftertaste at the back of the throat seems and the smell from the drip tip and even a stale cigarette smell in the room. Like lighting an old butt end. Great pity as initially it was very nice. Wonder what happened. Maybe it’s the atomiser heating the snuff in the mix that is responsible. Still, I do think there is something in attempting this but it turns out not to be just so straightforward unfortunately. Ok @asieg33. Help needed.