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U.S. Smokeless Nicotine Content

D

Just doing a little research and came across the following information from U.S. Smokeless’ website. Sorry if this info has been posted before, but a quick search here didn’t turn it up. The information I gathered from the website lists how many milligrams of nicotine per gram of snuff are listed: Rooster - 18.15 Standard - 17.92 DeVoe - 18.91 Bruton - 17.66 Carhart Choice - 18.84 Red Seal Sweet - 18.83 Just passing along this info. I would love to see numbers for other snuffs.

T

Bruton seems much stronger than those others.

C

@Tom502: Have you tried them all? They all have a nice kick, for DeVoe and Carhart’s being sweets, I am surprised that they are so high.

M

Thats cool info zzedo310

L

It would be very interesting to see this information on the other snuff brands. Just to see how they compare.

L

I personally cannot tell the difference in nicotine content from snuff to snuff. I know some snuffs are much stronger in the nose, but not necessarily due to nicotine. McChrystal’s Clove is the strongest snuff I have. It really blasts the nose good. Some heavy menthols give me about the same feeling, followed by toasts & scotches, with schmalzlers and F&T Old Paris and Princes/Special being the weakest feeling. I think this is mostly due to the grind and moisture content rather than nicotine.

B

I definatly have noticed the dry fine snuffs hit me faster but don’t seem to last as long.

T

@ bob: yes, I’ve found that as well. It’s funny, but I thought Rooster was going to have a lot more nic content that it actually does. I’m waiting for a delivery of DeVoes - it’ll be interesting to compare the two.

S

One of the strongest nicotine hits I get is from dried out McChrystal O&G. The high nicotine, fine grind, dryness and menthol can blow you away!

P

The snuff which gives me the best, immediate nicotine kick is Dholakia Sparrow Cool.

D

I think American snuffs as well as other fine, dry snuffs seem to hit me so strongly because the snuff stays in my nose after taking a pinch. When I use moist/coarse snuffs, big clumps always fall out of my nose and usually ends up on my shirt!

X

This all has to do with surface area, both that of your nasal membrace and of each particle of snuff. You’ll get the best “hit” from a fine ground, but the course will disperse over a longer period, with less of an initial punch. Nicotine content notwithstanding.

X

I just had a look at that website. At least you can get some information on their dry snuff products now. Although it still seems like they are avoiding mentioning them as much as possible. Something about this company doesn’t sit right with me. Why make something and then go out of your way NOT to sell it? The dry snuffs aren’t even mentioned in their list of products.

B

@Xander: Now you have some idea of my frustrations when attempting to purchase these items. They could care less and most don’t even know they make it. I end up telling them about their own products.

X

I know its frustrating, Tom. I’ve been reading this forum long enough to know that. Actually that website is an improvement over the last one, beleive it or not. I’m guessing Swisher is probably the best of the big three to work with. They at least have the biggest range and information/customer service on their website. Although I’d still only grade them a C minus. (Conwood gets a D, and US Smokeless a D minus) Still need to get a bunch more of these though, including Rooster. Carhart’s Choice seems to be easy to find though. It seems like a lot of stores carry it.

T

I sent a postal hand written letter a month or so back, to US Smokeless, and told them I liked their dry snuff, but could not find any mention of them at all on their website. Maybe they read it and took note. I was hoping they’d send me a few cans, but I guess not.

X

You probably shouldn’t have done that, Tom. You gave them your name and address. Now they will send their agents to your house and *ahem* “silence” you. Heaven forbid if you tell anyone about their snuff. Someone new might actually want to try it. Then they’d have to make more and try to sell it. That just can’t be allowed to happen. Nothing must interfere with the sales of almighty Copenhagen. Dry snuff must be allowed to die a quiet death in obscurity.

T

Well, I think if they actually felt like that, they would make so many variations. They’d just discontinue them, except for maybe one plain and one sweet. But they make quite a few, and don’t seem to be planning on stopping. And this new one, Standard, is it “new” or just newly found?

T

I think the American scotch snuff makers must be making these things because they sell, or why would they. And stores must be ordering more, as I see empty boxes at my local store, and they are being refilled. I think most people who buy these use them in the mouth. But for each company to have so many name brands, they must be selling and selling well, or they discontinue a bunch and only sell a couple of the top sellers. Seems to me.

X

“Why” is the biggest question indeed, tom. Look at Mr. Snuff’s figures though. They contiune to produce them, becuase 1) its incredibley cheap to make, 2) almost zero budget for marketing 3) they do sell at least enough to be profitable 4) they’ve been making some of these brands for a very long time. Why not promote them then? My theory is that they are not a fraction of the profitability of oral tobaccos or smoking tobaccos, both of which much be consumed in greater quantity for a typical use. Forcing the user to consume and buy more for their habit. Whatever they make on these is just free money to them, but not worth any invesment. They assume (possibly with some accuracy) that the average user of these is an average age of 80 or thereabouts. So the rely on the sales figures to tell them when these folks pass on and they won’t have to make this stuff anymore. True there are a lot of brands, but I have to look really hard to find any locally. Even then its 8 brands out of 30 something, and that only at one store only one of which is US Smokeless. Its a cow to be milked until its dead, but no point feeding that cow since it will soon be dead anyway (their mindset, not mine). Whereas you can go into any store and find roughly 50-100 brands of cigarettes and 10-20 brands of oral tobacco. People like us, I doubt if we’re even on their radar screen.

T

I walked into my local grocery store today, as I wanted groceries, and also a plain scotch, since I gave away the ones I had. This place always has WE. Garrett and Bruton, the Bruton area was empty, and a not full area of the WE Garrett still had a few, so I got one of those. I wanted to work on a blend with it. Normally I’m not a scotch fan. Orally though, I think it’s way better than dip, snus, and chew. But I stopped doing that. edit: Does anyone know the content for WE Garrett Scotch?