Sickeningly obtuse candy flavorings and perfume on some rather acidic foundation. I like the Otto OM and the OFS do alright decanted in smaller 5-8g portions. Otherwise the scents will evaporate off. Grab some toque and make a bindle out of that last cigars international ad rag. Tell me it tastes like anything other than gloss print and that tobacco foundation at closing time. I just don’t find value in it. I figured it was a make everything mediocre company based on their catalog. Don’t believe the hype.

I enjoy Toque Blueberry and Strawberry, everything else I’ve tried I haven’t been impressed with, but it’s always worth coming back later to give it a second sniff.

I agree. They’re bad and I hate the grind.

I have sampled a few of their grinds. They all present with incredible uniformity. Which seems to give even the medium the ability to give me a good throat punch. And medium very moist becomes instant boogers.

I enjoy the Toque range, not all but then l don’t enjoy all of WoS either. Their Quit, Original, OFS, Ambrosia, SP etc. are all very pleasant to my nose.

What brands do you like?

Not so much brand but product. SP is good when made with oil not perfume. Poschl is my preferred slap you in the face menthol. Goddard makes some well balanced fruits. Gold Rush and Kailash are fantastic. I like honest complexity. I’ve shoved enough nonsense up my nose, I crave an experience.

I like the OFS. I don’t like that a good deal of it’s scent is derived from perfume. Even that brilliant blended scotch flavor is greatly diminished when decanted more than a few days. It’s a delicate brand.

Not sure much can be determined from a small selection from any brand/manufacturer…

I use a lot of one snuff from Wilson’s, one from F&T, two from Samuel Gawith and one from Toque. If I’d randomly selected several others from each range I might have concluded they all make only snuff I don’t care for, but clearly that would be incorrect.

I think it’s fair to state that the majority of snuff from any manufacturer isn’t to my liking - or at least not enough that I’d want to use them regularly. Opinions are subjective and snuff can not be categorised using broad brush strokes. One man’s poison and all that…

I ordered 7 varieties of their snuff and they all represent the same deficiency. Is that a large enough cross section for you? Based on my impression, it’s cheap flour from Germany that someone left at a vape shop for finishing.

And as I have already stated, it’s all about the product. Thank you for your time in reading the entirety of my comments before presenting your such beautifully wordy response.

You’re entitled to your opinion and I have no truck with it, but feel it’s worth pointing out that not all Toque snuff uses the same flour.

Some of your criticisms are valid, but none apply across the entire range. It’s a bit like those comments I read from people stating that Indian snuff is all too perfumey, when the criticism can only be applied to the products sampled by those individuals and they clearly have limited their choices to cetain types of snuff.

@nisam I think you struck a nerve lol

I hope no one is going to get worked up over differing opinions about snuff!

More a matter of presentation and semantics. You write the way a headmaster may speak to a 14 year old.

I totally agree %

The flour (and the essential oils) of Toque is the same as WoS snuff as they buy it from them.

The lowest quality flours are objectively in the Indian snuffs. Dirty shitty Rustica or Chopadia leaves literally cut with huge % of caustic alkalizers.

The black aromatic Indian snuffs are the ones they smell like cheap ladies perfume and musk or deodorant generally.

To be honest your post sounds very dramatic for no reason mate.

Toque isn’t my cup of tea too, but because of my taste and preferences not because they are scammers like you make them look. They have decent snuffs. On the other hand Indian aromatic snuffs are like dipped in cheap ladies perfume mate and coloured black. The tobacco is coloured and highly scented so I lost you when you said that for example Kailash is quality…

I never had an SP from toque or a scented snuff that the scent evaporated off and they use essential oils for scenting like all the other English snuff brands (wos, mullins&westleys, JH Wilson). My SP extra smells of bergamot even after 6 years in its tin.

Snuff in general isn’t something to get hyped about.

I’m a dirtbag. I lack the airs to contribute a positive spin. Starbucks serves 1 coffee (blonde roast espresso) I’m interested in. Starbucks coffee still sucks. I like what I like, I know when it’s experienced. So I did some table top testing, maybe someone can find value in that. Maybe someone deserves a counterpoint. You know the saying we all like ice cream but there’s chocolate and vanilla for a reason…well, I prefer frozen custard.

If I remember right , wasn’t it only Artisan and Silver Dollar that were bought in from Sharrow ?

Don’t use a great deal of Toque but they make half a dozen lines I want in my cupboard . I also think what they’re trying out with the Otto range is pretty smart .

Was a bit broke recently and went on a tour of all the plainer snuff in my stash . Toque Quit and Natural came out of it scoring pretty well . Never had much truck with the original range flavours though . Toque USA was better in that regard .

I am a bit of a sucker for fun ‘trivial’ flavour impulse buys , but there’s only a handful out of all the makers in the world , I bought more than once or twice . My repeat business strikerate may be pretty poor for Toque flavours but it’s pretty bad for everyone .

They source all their flour from WoS. Toque Quit or Natural is essentially the same as WoS Plain. Natural Toast is like Irish 22. The same comparison holds for Toque Rose and WoS Rose. There is very little difference between them; the aroma and the base tobacco are nearly identical.

I appreciate Toque for what it is. I neither praise nor criticize it as the worst thing that happened in my life.

Personally, I prefer any Toque snuff over Indian Black snuffs. That’s just my taste. However, if I started posting negative posts about Indian Black snuffs as if I’ve just discovered a groundbreaking truth, it would only spread misinformation.

Dude you have plenty more snuffs to explore and potentially be disappointed by, so save your hate for now. This is a forum—a snuff library—not Reddit or a place to spread hate and negativity based on first impressions.

Ambrosia is the one Toque snuff I find myself using regularly and it certainly isn’t lacking where complexity is concerned. There are Toque snuffs from which the scent fades quickly, and I recall Roderick stating as much, but this definitely isn’t common across the range.

Otto is mentioned above and I rate the fruit menthols in that range well above Ozona/Poschl equivalents as the don’t have that lingering, slightly unpleasant scent which appears from the latter. There’s a new snuff in the Otto range which seems appealing, but I’m not placing an order for a single small tin.

Similarly their Artisan range gains good reviews, but most aren’t my cup of tea and those which I do like aren’t too different from some of my regular rotation. Dark, coarse and moist works best for me, but plenty of people have very different tastes.

I’m just grateful we have such a plethora of snuffs still available to us to discuss.

Heck yeah!
And I hope snuff awareness goes up along with demand.
I try to tell everyone about it.
IRL most think it’s weird or nasty (sociological thought of crushing up a cigarette and putting it up nose lol) .
Snuff is unheard of by 99% of ppl here. (Canada) .

It’s sad many are closing… but that’s why I root for the makers and vendors we do have!
They need our support

I see the Toque branded stuff more like something to pad out other snuffs with, or to mix together in to something new; where they do excel, in my eyes, is with the Artisan and OTTO offerings.
But offering so many different flavours, as much as there is likely to be something for everyone the adage of not being able to please everyone must be amplified.

My only real gripe with their products is that I wish they’d offer different grinds; some of their snuffs are too fine/dry and make an amateur (me) suffer.

I don’t like the modern man concept of maintaining ambiguity regarding all topics. It makes me feel soft. I have opinions based on my observations. Give me a soapbox, I’ll project as broadly as my inner ear will allow. The world I live in, men have conviction. Not blind conviction either.

A big shout-out to the social moderators policing the thoughts of other men. Tell your contemporaries at the Mini I said hello.

I don’t think that anyone has been ambiguous here, at least I hope I haven’t been, As for moderation, this is the one site that I think is very liberal in it’s policy on what people can say to others.

I also may have missed the ambiguity and believe everyone expressed their opinions clearly. What I did see in responses was nuance and the absense of nuance in the opening post is what prompted me to comment. No lack of conviction in opinions either and I can’t help wondering if blind conviction more aptly describes nuanced opinion based on experience or broad brush strokes applied without much thought.

There’s a bit of “yeah but” based on trivia. It’s all good. I’ve got no problem with site mods, that’s what they’re tasked with. It’s all the “not a fair analysis, well it’s made by xxx, etc”

INone of those posts mentioned warehousing or transportation. Both significant factors in consumables. But more than one person wants to engage in trivia. I could buy all my flour from WoS then turn around and dump stupid crap in it and still boast that…it stared at WoS what’s the problem.

My family grows 16 square miles of tobacco a year. We’ve grown it for over 200 years. My expertise expires at the loading dock of the auction house. But I know what I like.

The basis of my original comment was pointing out that not all Toque snuff uses the same base flour. As such it’s not reasonable to write off an entire product range on the basis of an experience with a single base flour.

I don’t particularly care what anyone likes or doesn’t like, as we all have different tastes, but believe it is reasonable to balance sweeping statements which may be read and taken at face value by others. I’m far from being an expert on the subject of snuff, but would like others to be able to read fairly accurate assessments of the limited number of products still available as there’s little enough good information to be found among the wealth of hubris cluttering other parts of the internet.